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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I will not do it, I care about my privacy when it comes to gambling activity. I will try to find casinos that proven to be KYC friendly. So far I have never experienced bad things about KYC because the casinos where I play are KYC friendly. I also know my gambling budget and I believe there is no way that I will win such huge amount of money that will make the casino ask me to complete intentity verification.

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Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I prefer dealing with the verification part later on once i'm sure i'll be playing regularly in the casino I picked because, as one of the earlier posts mentioned, gamblers have several accounts, and verifying every single one could put your information at risk.

Getting verified too early also comes with a risk. What if you suddenly go on a heater after your verification and the casino doesn't want you playing on their site anymore after making too much profit from their games?

If you believe that passing KYC on several online casino could put your information at risk you shouldn't be gambling on any one casino that requires for verification.

Well it's everyone's dream to keep winning until the casino stop you from gambling, that's an awesome feeling I bet, but stopping you from gambling or not doesn't mean they will use your information for something bad.

You said you can pass verification later and this is the method you prefer, will this stop them from stopping you to gamble on their casino at that later time when you pass the KYC?

What if you win a large amount of money and you are asked to pass KYC before you can withdraw, I am sure you won't leave without withdrawing the fund, whatever the Casino plan to do with your KYC information later will remain unknown, we are back to where we start I believe.

Pass the KYC too early or later, the danger still lurking anyway, also you winning every rounds of game on the casino and they stop you still doesn't mean the next thing is to use your information for bad things behind your back.

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Quote from: PX-Z on August 23, 2023, 06:33:17 PM

Verifying later on is a good practice for privacy, while the other way around is assumption of having a security of the deposit and future withdrawals. Where in fact your account can be locked even though you are already kyc verified, since your KYC is not the only thing they will look at when there's a "suspicious" activity on the account. For those users who have single playing casino, that's good, not for those who have multiple casinos. Why people plays in different casino? Simply because they don't share the same odds, games, game provider, etc.

How possibility is good decision for verifying document later? what happen when suddenly account get freeze huge amount withdrawing activities will get easily for KYC approving? I don't think gambler want to create multiple casino account because hunting bonus signup is difficult with small offer, better KYC firstly before depositing fund and when huge amount withdrawing there are not get problem from gambling platform or casino required for verifying account.
Since many cases with account suddenly freeze with withdrawing activities, its warning for all gambling platform have to verify account firstly before active playing in gambling platform.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I disagree with you. I have an account in some casinos where I did not carry out the KYC until today, I did not do it for the reasons below:
1. I play for fun, relatively low values and I always convert my winnings into more bets because I don't have profit as the ultimate goal;
2. My bets are mostly sports, so the profit I get from each bet is smaller than other games of chance, I am aware that I will not become rich overnight;
3. No money in this world buys my privacy, I'd rather be guaranteed to remain anonymous and "try my luck" than send my documents and selfies to all casino sites;
4. I am of legal age, residing in a country that is not restricted in the casinos where I play, my documents are up to date, my source of income is legal... I have nothing to fear and I believe that it would be a lot of incompetence for a casino to tarnish your reputation with me by trying to fail me in a KYC process.

Protect your privacy!

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 23, 2023, 04:52:27 PM

Personally, I'd like to experience the platform first before I go balls-deep into their KYC. I'd submit the necessary ones, then I'll complete the advanced verification later. Once that's done, I can now have the option to deposit huge amounts and not get put into an endless back and forth with the customer representative once I won a huge amount. Saves me the stress of dealing with the reps, and also gives me ample confidence to just play and think of nothing else.

^ Yes that is right, this way, you can assess whether the casino fits with your preferences and expectations.
Completing advanced verification later makes sense, as it minimizes potential obstacles while still providing a seamless experience if you happen to win big. By taking care of the verification process in advance, you are essentially removing the stress of dealing with customer representatives and ensuring that your focus remains on the game itself. Striking a balance between exploring the platform, safeguarding your privacy, and preparing for potential winnings is a smart way to approach online gambling. Your strategy gives you the freedom to enjoy the games with confidence. Sometimes, delaying verification for privacy reasons probably seems appealing, but it is crucial to recognize that assuming security based solely on deposits and withdrawals can lead to unexpected issues. Even if you have completed KYC, your account can still be locked if the casino perceives "suspicious" activity.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on August 21, 2023, 07:06:08 AM

A reputable casino will not do that, maybe some are not providing adequate ad required documents needed for the casino tobe satisfied with.

No reputable casino will do it . It is only the bad eggs amongst them that keeps spoiling their name. However I think what the OP is trying to say is that to have a hitch free withdrawal process is for the gambler to do the first things first at the beginning by completing the KYC requirements. No reputable casino will hold back your winning because of KYC. Infact they want returning gamblers so they'll make the KYC process pretty straightforward.

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Quote from: shogun47 on August 23, 2023, 10:50:22 AM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

But isn't rejecting ID only one possibility a casino has to screw their players? If they really want to deny payouts, KYC is one option they have if you haven't already passed it. Even then they could say that "our security system has detected some irregularities and applied a red flag to your account, please resubmit your KYC" and then still reject it.

Rejecting valid documents is one possibility for a casino to screw its players. But if they reject the documents because it does not conform to the standard or needed requirement, like submitting ID that is not on the list of valid requirement, the verifies has the reason to reject those documents.

Quote from: shogun47 on August 23, 2023, 10:50:22 AM

The only solution from my experience is to play with highly reputed casinos only. Especially when high stakes players are looking for a comfortable place to play at, the first thing they should research is how that casino handles high payouts and whether there is a history of unsettled denials.

The only solution to this is by submitting the required documents and not other documents outside the requirements. Even if a person is playing in a very reputable casino, if they were asked for KYC documents and the document submitted is not on the accepted list, then the KYC procedure will be denied.

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Verifying later on is a good practice for privacy, while the other way around is assumption of having a security of the deposit and future withdrawals. Where in fact your account can be locked even though you are already kyc verified, since your KYC is not the only thing they will look at when there's a "suspicious" activity on the account. For those users who have single playing casino, that's good, not for those who have multiple casinos. Why people plays in different casino? Simply because they don't share the same odds, games, game provider, etc.

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A few of people has already said it from here, that before they allow the player to deposit is that they've asked already for verification.

Quote from: ralle14 on August 23, 2023, 05:53:05 PM

Getting verified too early also comes with a risk. What if you suddenly go on a heater after your verification and the casino doesn't want you playing on their site anymore after making too much profit from their games?

Although this could happen for an instance but the chance is very low. It differs from everyone's point of view whichever is preferred and it's got a point.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I prefer dealing with the verification part later on once i'm sure i'll be playing regularly in the casino I picked because, as one of the earlier posts mentioned, gamblers have several accounts, and verifying every single one could put your information at risk.

Getting verified too early also comes with a risk. What if you suddenly go on a heater after your verification and the casino doesn't want you playing on their site anymore after making too much profit from their games?

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Its not only KYC verification that fails. I've experienced it often times with different KYC providers, the processes differs and can get frustrating very quickly. So if you can't pass it when there's nothing at stake, the frustration increases 10x when there is something at stake if you don't pass.

Quote from: retreat on August 23, 2023, 03:11:44 AM

Simply agree that passing KYC is the first thing gamblers need to do when playing on a platform that requires KYC to withdraw. Because in some cases gamblers don't pay attention to this, they just play and then when they want to withdraw they are hindered by the KYC process which will prolong their withdrawal process, some are even rejected and in the end their funds hang there and cannot be used.

The rejection is often not from the casino but mostly from their authorized KYC service provider.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

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True enough. I've seen quite a lot of complaints about how KYC applications were rejected but at the same time, I've also seen some applications that were rejected rightfully so. The rest? The result wasn't shared and the small minority would be people who truly were mismatched to doing something illegal.

In the end KYC is a process that most would take and wouldn't really have issues imo. Most of the issues stem from multi accounting, VPN, and illegal access so really, if you tick any of these, just switch casinos.

I do agree with customer support being frustrating though. It's almost always like that with casinos tbf.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

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Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

that's right, before making a deposit, it's important to first investigate the gambling site whether there is a possibility that it will make it difficult for you to make withdrawals with KYC or something like that ^{(especially for those who hate KYC)}

anyway from what i have noticed so far, usually gambling sites will temporarily freeze accounts that make large withdrawals, they will detect those accounts and carry out investigations as to whether there is a possibility that those players have other accounts on that site, therefore i recommend withdrawing slowly land your winning money so they don't detect your account, don't get you in trouble and they claim you are cheating on their gambling site.

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 23, 2023, 11:41:14 AM

This happened to me before when I was a beginner in gambling with the first casino that I have played with. I focused on winning and enjoying the entire site as well as all their featured games.
Unfortunately, upon withdrawal, they asked for KYC which really surprised me as a newbie. They were askng for IDs and documents that I couldn't provide that time. So I ended up having my funds on hold which is really frustrating.
I realized that it is better to pass rhe KYC first before aiming for good wins because our profit would be nothing if we couldn't process it due to failed KYCs.

Try to think even further, you must have missed reading the ToS of every online casino. They must have explained in detail about implementing KYC on withdrawals and some of the features that require KYC. Then you skip it and keep playing until you are surprised by the implementation of KYC on withdrawals. Usually there is a maximum withdrawal and if you exceed this limit you will be asked for KYC. If you have already entered and you won and then want to take your money, do the KYC, if you have a problem contact the service, it will be resolved immediately.

Some find reading TOS is not so important matter to them since they will play the same atmosphere to other casino but little they don't know that there are details are so important to read especially right now where Kyc is important requirements to have by a casino. People should normalized the thoughts of making this as part of their gambling activities since if they are still hesitant and always use fake names to avoid it then for sure problem will rise soon with them for ignoring such important matter.

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Personally, I'd like to experience the platform first before I go balls-deep into their KYC. I'd submit the necessary ones, then I'll complete the advanced verification later. Once that's done, I can now have the option to deposit huge amounts and not get put into an endless back and forth with the customer representative once I won a huge amount. Saves me the stress of dealing with the reps, and also gives me ample confidence to just play and think of nothing else.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

Not all casinos will do this but surely the new ones will never approve your KYC if you have won a jackpot or a very big amount. They will always reject it and make excuses for not accepting your KYC documents and we cannot challenge them. They do this because they know that if they accept your KYC at this point, then they will have to pay you a very big amount which you have won.

Instead of this, if you do the KYC initially without winning any considerable amount, it would be a lot easier to get the KYC approved. I will always prefer to do the KYC before actually playing at the casino, because we have no way to avoid the KYC.

Are you willing on doing that even if you do know that your arent that a huge amount gambler or wagerer? For sure you would really be that skeptical on doing things like this considering that in dealing with crypto gambling

then we do really value that anonymity which is something that we do really that prefer and sending out documents or verification even we are speaking with known platforms would really be giving that kind of doubt.
Just like on what been said that if you do want to make yourself that skip out on possible headaches then it would be better that you should really be that wise on choosing which platform you would really be playing on.
Also you wont really be bothering yourself about KYC specially if you are just an average gambler who do make use of small funds or amounts on your gambling activity.

Also, its casinos negligence if they wont really be setting out max bet for possible max win for them to make use of that KYC alibi and disapproving kind of technique just for them to be able to avoid
on paying up the winner. It is really just that a bullshit experience on something like this.

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 23, 2023, 11:41:14 AM

This happened to me before when I was a beginner in gambling with the first casino that I have played with. I focused on winning and enjoying the entire site as well as all their featured games.
Unfortunately, upon withdrawal, they asked for KYC which really surprised me as a newbie. They were askng for IDs and documents that I couldn't provide that time. So I ended up having my funds on hold which is really frustrating.
I realized that it is better to pass rhe KYC first before aiming for good wins because our profit would be nothing if we couldn't process it due to failed KYCs.

Try to think even further, you must have missed reading the ToS of every online casino. They must have explained in detail about implementing KYC on withdrawals and some of the features that require KYC. Then you skip it and keep playing until you are surprised by the implementation of KYC on withdrawals. Usually there is a maximum withdrawal and if you exceed this limit you will be asked for KYC. If you have already entered and you won and then want to take your money, do the KYC, if you have a problem contact the service, it will be resolved immediately.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Someone who really cares that KYC steps are not required in gambling will definitely look for gambling sites that do not require KYC every time they want to gamble. But the risk is like what you said because the worst case can happen when we get a big win but can't withdraw money from certain sites if we haven't done KYC.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

I have never been involved in a big win at gambling and so far there have been no experiences regarding large withdrawals from gambling sites that I have worked on, so there is not much to say. But if KYC is important as a condition given by gambling sites, then it will be the decision of each individual when completing KYC and if something unexpected happens regarding the KYC.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

If the KYC is incomplete and incorrect, the site will definitely give a red signal to the tick. So we can try to repeat and see where the mistake is, don't rush and do it right if you want to do KYC, confirm all the documents needed so that the required identity is complete.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 21, 2023, 05:32:38 AM

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

Not all casinos will do this but surely the new ones will never approve your KYC if you have won a jackpot or a very big amount. They will always reject it and make excuses for not accepting your KYC documents and we cannot challenge them. They do this because they know that if they accept your KYC at this point, then they will have to pay you a very big amount which you have won.

Instead of this, if you do the KYC initially without winning any considerable amount, it would be a lot easier to get the KYC approved. I will always prefer to do the KYC before actually playing at the casino, because we have no way to avoid the KYC.

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At all times, it is better to just comply than to make standards on our own. We are only users of a platform nd we should respect their rules as for their mnagement. In these instances KYC is creating a struggle, they'd be vocal of the issue in order for you to receive your money. It'll just be taking some time especially if there are issues under your account. So far I have never struggled with KYC procedures. With regards to verifying your account first before making a deposit should be a given action especially if you read their rules. You'd earn nothing if ever you'd be against complying on their terms. Let us just be preventive as well.

Quote from: Cling18 on August 23, 2023, 11:41:14 AM

This happened to me before when I was a beginner in gambling with the first casino that I have played with. I focused on winning and enjoying the entire site as well as all their featured games.
Unfortunately, upon withdrawal, they asked for KYC which really surprised me as a newbie. They were askng for IDs and documents that I couldn't provide that time. So I ended up having my funds on hold which is really frustrating.
I realized that it is better to pass rhe KYC first before aiming for good wins because our profit would be nothing if we couldn't process it due to failed KYCs.

I think reading the TOS first before the deposit, would be a better approach on such situations. What if they have other rules which would go against your expectations? There are many gambling sites to choose from and s players we are all free to choose on our own depending on our capabilities of compliance. We couldn't make them adjust for us.

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