Topic: I will pass KYC later is a bad idea - page 3. (Read 1498 times)

Online casinos should be versatile enough to see which document or ID are real, and not just because your passport and their passport have different features. Every people that are living in different countries will of course have different identifications with them, so what you're saying is not really legit or the casino is sketchy. Reputable casinos will leave some remarks on why they rejected your identification so that you will know what's wrong about it.

As a gambler should know the risks involved with passing the KYC and not passing the KYC because either move will get you different consequences in time. It's just a matter of perspective or if you're a big time roller.

I think he wasn't talking people having their personal information hacked on an individual level, but on a platform like a casino or an exchange, we cant really blame the individual involved in such incident, and beside, any platform can be hacked, no matter how robust the platform is, or how secure, let take for example, when binance was hacked, many of us did not believe that such a thing could happen because of how secure we all assumed binance to be, in that hack, money was stolen, and so also was KYC identities of some customers, the hackers could have as well used those information for some illegal stuff they wanted...

The only thing here is that, gamblers should ensure to only submit their kyc documents to only reputable and trusted casinos, because sometimes, it is even the platform that sells users information to third party for money. 

I'm lost, if a casino is giving many excuses how will the gambler knew its legit? A casino might reject your identity maybe because the document you submitted are outdated or looks not like original copy, etc, there is no way you can call such platform a scam because they don't pass your verification, I mean, my passport is different from others passport.

Some even have weird national identity cards, I remember using one in 2018 and many exchange used to reject the ID, I don't blame them but I never called them scam, later I got my drivers license and I use that to pass every KYC requirement, never been rejected once.

To me passing KYC later is not a smart idea, if you don't want to verify your account do no make deposit on them, you can have difficulty passing the KYC verification even if the online casino is a very popular platform.

Of the many cases that have occurred we should be able to take the positive side by learning that not all trusted places really have guaranteed security including a casino nor can all of them guarantee the security of what we provide, such as personal identification for KYC.
But you don't need to worry because there are several trusted casinos that you can rely on to maintain every customer security regarding KYC and the balance stored in the bankroll.

Anyone will definitely experience mistakes or bad luck even though they are careful in their actions and we just need to always be vigilant and try not to get into trouble that we don't expect.

That's one of many things we often don't pay attention to. There is a difference in the name on the site name, so this often fools many people. There are many ways that scammers are used and many of these are old ways that used to be used by veteran scammers but still work to deceive people today.

Scammers most often use promotions that come to our e-mail addresses and those who do not check the e-mail address of the sender may directly click on the link in the e-mail. But it turned out to be a fraudulent link that would redirect to a fraudulent site without people knowing. And it's true that we should always make sure of everything before doing something so that we don't regret it later.

I think this type of problem would have been less if the sites were well established before giving personal information. Not all sites work the same way accessing many websites these days requires entering some personal information. Although most of the information is required to be used on the website, it is better to be careful about giving information. Be sure to read their privacy policy before providing information on websites. Anyone online can become a victim of hacking at any time So everyone should be aware to stay safe online.

Add the phishing attempts too.
One time I saw a gambler's chat for an attempt of phishing by using a known gambling site's name. I told him to recheck the website address first and not click it and Voila! he saw there was a difference in the name.
These scammers will use any detail that they get and that is why before we pass our KYC information we should also check the address of the site. We should always be keen to look at every detail and not just click anything that is sent to us thru e-mail.
Sometimes, the scammers use bonus rewards, monthly bonuses, and other promos to make it attractive and clickable, and that's where they will get their victims.
Sure, KYC is so hard for many gamblers who want to stay anonymous but somehow this is also a way for us to be secured.

It's also a pity if a person like that has been accused of doing illegal things even though he didn't do anything. But that's what happens when we use real identities to register with third parties that we don't even know very well. People should start thinking about this and always be careful if they want to pass on their true identity to third parties. They may have to ensure that the third party can really maintain the confidentiality of all its members who have submitted their documents to their third party.

I have also heard that something similar happened in my area and I feel that this fraud must be stopped by increasing vigilance from the users themselves. They must protect their identity well and not carelessly hand it over to third parties. They need to check everything before doing KYC on a site, not just in a casino, because fraud can happen anywhere we might never expect.

What they say is very true, now things when it comes to money , because there are some people who do not care about their professional Ethics and for little they can Sell this Data , but now I imagine that the systems have been updated and those things , well I think that those in Charge of security are mopnnitroedos and seen by cameras, apart from the fact that there are many things that can influence there, if there is a small data leak it can be immediately detected by the system and alarms are activated, thus correcting that a worker may have that access to the data of the users, with their KYC, which is quite delicate , and of course, that is one of the most recurrent measures of the epersonas that their data is not stolen, that is something normal, I have seen that many of The occasions where a casino can Look for and take into consideration that KYC is beneficial, can say many things, Personally I think they are Forgetting that Security systems are vulnerable, but that part that is so important is simply not they say, because they know that everything falls there.

Now,  accept something, everything , be it in Exchanges, in casinos, they are asking for KYC for everything , and things for players , traders who like anonymity, they are running out of options to be anonymous, because now It is more all focused that they have to know everything about the person, there can be nothing or nobody that escapes the radar of governments, banks, third parties with power, this is something that really bothers.

Something that we can fight against is that , even so , I have seen that some players leave their sites, decentralized casinos, but it turns out to be much more expensive, due to all the risk that this entails, so if we see it from one point of view Well , things like that you will Always be anonymous, your privacy is unique, you will continue to make Transactions and keep safe , but When a problem occurs, I think the Support is Heavy and it can be very Difficult.

I know some people who got their identity stolen because of some leaks in the place where they work and it really turned out bad because they used their identity for cellular fraud and other scam activities. It didn't turn out well and the guy needed to pay lots of money just to clear his name and they never tracked the one who did it. thankfully he is fully cleared now and very careful when it comes to sharing his personal information, he even uses his real name in his social media account due to his past trauma. The poor man was just a fish vendor in the market and was suddenly taken by some police because of someone who stole his identity.

But @slapper, what do screenshots really help when it's not a reputable provider? If it is, then I agree but you would usually have less problems with them anyway. But if it is a casino that wants to scam you, I doubt that they would care about any screenshots and if you provide them, they will call them fake. If they make the decision to scam, they will scam. I am all for evidence, so this is not to say that evidence is worthless in any case. But I think in the majority of the cases when you are screwed, you are screwed. And believe I hate that as well and that is why I refrain from using casinos that are mostly unknown or don't have a reliable history of trust and integrity.

Indeed, nobody seems to be entirely innocent when it comes to protect gamblers' data at a casino. I'm confident that many employees are driven by the desire/greed for extra earnings, even if it means leaking data on their responsibilities.

To be honest, I don't think that there's a completely legitimate casino at all. They may present themselves as legitimate but deep down they might prioritize extracting more from their customers (gamblers) without thinking a lot about the consequences.

Exactly, Casinos typically ask for additional supporting documents in addition to the standard valid ID which the initial KYC ask as requirements. Some casino that ask KYC after winning big amount usually require supporting documents such as financial report or employment certificate to use as source of funds meaning the initial KYC is useless if the casino has the tendency to ask KYC during winning huge amount.

Yes it's true. But we are talking about the KYC in the context of what it may be needed if we win big and then in order to withdraw the winnings the casino will ask us to pass the KYC to comply with the rules of the AML. Thus, the real need for the passage of the KYC arises when we have won big. Unfortunately, this rarely happens (and not with every gambler), so it’s not worth rushing through the KYC.

It's a serious red flag when a casino, cryptocurrency or not, starts tampering with its terms and conditions, particularly when it comes to KYC. Why wouldn't they be able to maintain consistency in their conditions and keep your money in jeopardy? Screenshots are the paper trail of today. Evidence is always, always necessary, especially in the realm of gaming

Regretfully, KYC is complete garbage. This is a system that causes delays and confusion, and let's face it, no one enjoys having more paperwork. But we have to put up with this garbage, just like when there are bad refs in a game. This is our reality. Stay ahead of the game, be astute, and always be aware of the goalposts that are moving! Keep them from beating you

Casinos can say whatever they want and even go so far as to block honest people from playing at their casinos. But that would only happen at shady casinos where we know they can't be trusted. So if you want to do KYC, you must be able to find a trusted casino that will protect its user data from bad things so that users will feel safe doing KYC at that casino.

Yes, the casino can sell its customer data to other parties, and the casino will get additional money from the sale. And if you really don't want to do KYC, you can look for a decentralized casino so that you don't have to enter any data except connecting your wallet address with the casino.

But you need to separate your assets from the wallet because when you connect your wallet to the decentralized casino, you will not know what things can happen later.

It’s better to pass KYC before using a casino if they make KYC mandatory for withdrawal, but it’s just a scam casino that will reject your KYC after winning just because you win a big amount of money. Any casino that can do that has to be tagged as a scam casino. No matter the amount you win from a reputable casino, they will not reject your kyc for no reason, your kyc is going to be accepted and you are going to be paid, that’s why it’s better you use a reputable casino when gambling, there are lots of casino currently, if you are trying out a new casino, make sure you check people’s review about them before using it, a casino with bad review should be completely avoided.

Even after passing a KYC before using a casino, a scam casino will still require more information after winning, and they will look for possible ways to deny the customer's withdrawal. The best thing to do is to choose a reputable casino right from the beginning.

Hmm this is quite interesting as I never actually thought of these situations from this view of yours but now that you have sated this, I think I can concur and relate to this because these casino which reputation aren't that big can just claim that they were hack while instead have forward details of their customers to other bodies so they can make with it to defraud these individuals or other ways these information can be valuable.

If a casino decides to scam you or if a casino has that plan in their back of their heads when they actually set up the casino, it doesn't matter how many screenshots you have and they will still do it. It would help to prove the case though and protect the rest of the community, but from my experience or from what I have seen and heard, they would bend their TOS to whatever they need those TOS to stand for or mean. Sticking with the most reputable and established casinos is the way to go for me. Or with those where the stakes are very high if a case becomes public like here on Bitcointalk, but even here we had cases of casinos disappearing or shutting down when nobody expected it.

Correct, the casinos might have great reputation but it does not guarantee that data leaks will never happen. We all know that the employees in the casinos are all human who may have a greed to make more money by doing illegal thing. In this case, once it is happening, the casino cant do anything except firing the employees. How about the players whose data has been sold by this naughty employees? There will be nothing to do except accept the fact and casino also cant do anything except apologizing of what is happening.