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October 23, 2023, 02:17:45 PM
We did not see the expected performance from Pakistan. A target of 283 runs was set aside by them. It is a good enough target considering the pitch. But the bowlers are not doing well. Afghanistan collected 130 runs in the first wicket pair. And they lost their second wicket for just 190 runs. Rahmanullah Gurbaz scored 65 runs and Ibarhim Zadran scored 87 runs. Rahmat Shah remains unbeaten with 32 runs. Afghanistan need only 93 runs. It is not a difficult task. But in the past matches we have seen that Afghanistan are completely dependent on their top order. If Afghanistan lose more wickets in the next few overs, they are likely to lose.

This match was a great disaster by Pakistani team they have lost the match against a weaker time and now it's proven that they won't be able to stand against South African team in the upcoming match. This time team Pakistan discouraged its fans very bitterly and their poor performance shown that their captain isn't competent enough to manage the team. Team Afghanistan won against team Pakistan which was totally unexpected victory. I thought that Pakistan may show dominance against Afghanistan but they weren't dominant at all.
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October 23, 2023, 02:10:44 PM
PCB STOP TALKING AND START WORKING!

None of us have ever imagined Pakistan getting defeated by Afghanistan. One of the commentators is praising the Afghan team as he is half Australian and half Pakistani. Where things got so wrong that Pakistan cannot win a game against a team new to this World Cup, almost everything that Afghanistan needs is being provided by the BCCI. It's another big shame for Pakistan to get defeated by an underdog like Afghanistan. It is an end for Pakistan getting into the semifinals of the World Cup as they won't be able to get out of this defeat psychologically. Another game to prove that the era of Pakistan cricket is now on the rise unless the PCB comes up with an immediate solution.
I completely disagreed with this half Australian and half Pakistani commentator because this is not happening first time, we have history of many poor results like these with PCB is never been well organized authority in Pakistan mostly controlled by politicians which use this for their own purpose like Pakistan lost to Bangladesh was political decision back in 1999 and then Pakistan also lost Ireland which was due inner politics by players.
We have to accept few realities about Pakistan and their culture which is never been working on merit mostly players and authorities are doing things for their own sack which is having matter of shame but not this defeat because the lost against a well-organized team which beats England few days back in this same event.
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October 23, 2023, 02:07:29 PM
None of us have ever imagined Pakistan getting defeated by Afghanistan. One of the commentators is praising the Afghan team as he is half Australian and half Pakistani. Where things got so wrong that Pakistan cannot win a game against a team new to this World Cup, almost everything that Afghanistan needs is being provided by the BCCI. It's another big shame for Pakistan to get defeated by an underdog like Afghanistan. It is an end for Pakistan getting into the semifinals of the World Cup as they won't be able to get out of this defeat psychologically. Another game to prove that the era of Pakistan cricket is now on the rise unless the PCB comes up with an immediate solution.
To be honest, the Pakistan team is not in its previous position. They are slowly going down. Especially their bowling line-up had a good reputation but that reputation is no longer exist. On one hand they don't have a good batting line-up except for a few and on the other hand if the bowling condition is also bad then nothing good can be expected from them. It is certainly humiliating for Pakistan that their bowlers could not do anything against a team like Afghanistan. But nothing can be done without ability. PCB should play a role in building better teams. It is difficult to expect anything good from such a team especially in a tournament like World Cup cricket.
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October 23, 2023, 01:47:36 PM
This match is so interesting to watch somehow. I still think Afghanistan could lose this, there will be hat-trick or something, probably just delusion.
I missed one of the exciting match of this tournament due to my busy schedule and to be honest I didn't even track the scores of either teams but at the time of match end I am surprised to see Pakistan got upset by AFG and most convincingly which shows the weakness of Pakistan's both batting and bowling and if they want to ensure their ability they have to make a big comeback against bigger teams or they will be considered as depleting cricket nation.
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October 23, 2023, 12:25:50 PM
PCB STOP TALKING AND START WORKING!

None of us have ever imagined Pakistan getting defeated by Afghanistan. One of the commentators is praising the Afghan team as he is half Australian and half Pakistani. Where things got so wrong that Pakistan cannot win a game against a team new to this World Cup, almost everything that Afghanistan needs is being provided by the BCCI. It's another big shame for Pakistan to get defeated by an underdog like Afghanistan. It is an end for Pakistan getting into the semifinals of the World Cup as they won't be able to get out of this defeat psychologically. Another game to prove that the era of Pakistan cricket is now on the rise unless the PCB comes up with an immediate solution.
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October 23, 2023, 12:12:20 PM
Why did Babar Azam remove the pacers and introduce spinnerss? I haven't seen them getting anything out of this wicket. As of now I conclude this will be a close game. The Afganistan batters are utilizing this stupidity from Babar Azam as Afganistan is now increasing their run rate.

I have seen spinners do quite well on this pitch in past matches. Perhaps this is why Babar Azam used his spinners. But Pakistan does not get good performance from spinners. I certainly don't blame Babar's captaincy.
Pakistan could have given 300+ target in today's match. A target of 283 runs was not enough. Pakistan's batsmen cannot do well enough. The performance of their top order players was quite slow.
We are seeing Pakistan's very bad fielding in today's match as well. If not for the bad fielding they could have saved 20/30 more runs and it would have been more difficult for Afghanistan to win the match. Afghanistan now need 30 runs from 30 balls. As both the batsmen at the crease are playing very well, they will easily collect 30 runs in 30 balls.
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October 23, 2023, 12:03:10 PM
This match is so interesting to watch somehow. I still think Afghanistan could lose this, there will be hat-trick or something, probably just delusion.
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October 23, 2023, 11:57:06 AM
Why did Babar Azam remove the pacers and introduce spinnerss? I haven't seen them getting anything out of this wicket. As of now I conclude this will be a close game. The Afganistan batters are utilizing this stupidity from Babar Azam as Afganistan is now increasing their run rate.
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October 23, 2023, 11:56:41 AM
Run rate has come down after Gurbaz got out, this may put pressure on Afghans at tail overs and may lose further wickets, although they have plenty left.

Aside from that, Ibrahim Zadran appears nervous about his hundred  Tongue

Edit: Ibrahim gone, literally the moment I posted this comment. Fear is disease, humans can't help it.
Gurbaz and Zadran gave good start and it have given confidence to the rest of the players in chasing the target. Gurbaz at 65 runs and Zadran at 87 runs have walked to the pavilion. Rahmat Shah have reached his half century and Hashmatullah Shahidi is doing his best. More 60 runs in 58 balls is going to be an easy win for Afghanistan. Pakistan bowlers are struggling hard as they weren't able to break partnership which is must for them to win the match.
Ibrahim Zadran and Rahmanullah Gurbaz were very good as their opening pair today.Basically the chase has done the main job for their team to win today.Afghanistan are sure to win today as they have lost only two wickets.Afghanistan need 51 runs from just 47 balls to go with eight wickets still in hand.If Afghanistan win today, it will be very difficult for Pakistan to reach the semi-finals.In this World Cup, Afghanistan first lost to Bangladesh and then turned around quite well and are going to beat England first and today Pakistan.
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October 23, 2023, 11:52:26 AM
Afghanistan vs Pakistan

Today's only match is between Afghanistan vs Pakistan. I think today's match will be very competitive. Because the match is going to be held in Chennai. This ground is not very batting friendly. Bowlers get a lot of advantage on this pitch. The performance of Afghanistan's batsmen is very erratic. But their bowlers are capable of doing quite well on bowling friendly pitches. And that's why I think the match will be competitive.

The performance of the batsmen of both Pakistan and Afghanistan teams has been erratic. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is 226 runs. And the average score of the second innings is 204 runs. If Afghanistan can bat first and give Pakistan a target of 280+ runs, it will not be easy for Pakistan to win this match. I would say both teams have chances to win
Although Pakistan's opponent is Afghanistan, today's match will be a very interesting match. We may have to wait till the last ball to see who will win this match today. We have seen Pakistan and Afghanistan matches several times before and in all the matches we have seen between Afghanistan and Pakistan we have to wait till the last ball and either team wins the match in dramatic fashion. Pakistan will play Afghanistan which means Pakistan will be ahead statistically but no team is big in world cup as we have seen in previous few matches and Afghanistan can beat a team like England so I am sure Afghanistan will perform very well against Pakistan. I wouldn't be surprised if there is no change in the Pakistan XI as they did very well against Australia in the last match.
We did not see the expected performance from Pakistan. A target of 283 runs was set aside by them. It is a good enough target considering the pitch. But the bowlers are not doing well. Afghanistan collected 130 runs in the first wicket pair. And they lost their second wicket for just 190 runs. Rahmanullah Gurbaz scored 65 runs and Ibarhim Zadran scored 87 runs. Rahmat Shah remains unbeaten with 32 runs. Afghanistan need only 93 runs. It is not a difficult task. But in the past matches we have seen that Afghanistan are completely dependent on their top order. If Afghanistan lose more wickets in the next few overs, they are likely to lose.

I don't see any possibility of Pakistan winning. The performance of their bowlers is very poor. Afghanistan have already accumulated 213 runs with the loss of just two wickets. The team needs only 70 runs from 70 balls. Their batsmen's performances have been erratic but they are talented enough. As the team has lost just 2 wickets, it is not difficult for them to win this match. If Pakistan lose today's match, I don't see any chance of them qualifying for the semi-finals. After winning the first two matches, if they lose today's match, it will be Pakistan's third defeat in a row. The team is playing very badly.
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October 23, 2023, 11:49:15 AM
Run rate has come down after Gurbaz got out, this may put pressure on Afghans at tail overs and may lose further wickets, although they have plenty left.

Aside from that, Ibrahim Zadran appears nervous about his hundred  Tongue

Edit: Ibrahim gone, literally the moment I posted this comment. Fear is disease, humans can't help it.
Gurbaz and Zadran gave good start and it have given confidence to the rest of the players in chasing the target. Gurbaz at 65 runs and Zadran at 87 runs have walked to the pavilion. Rahmat Shah have reached his half century and Hashmatullah Shahidi is doing his best. More 60 runs in 58 balls is going to be an easy win for Afghanistan. Pakistan bowlers are struggling hard as they weren't able to break partnership which is must for them to win the match.
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October 23, 2023, 11:16:47 AM
Afghanistan vs Pakistan

Today's only match is between Afghanistan vs Pakistan. I think today's match will be very competitive. Because the match is going to be held in Chennai. This ground is not very batting friendly. Bowlers get a lot of advantage on this pitch. The performance of Afghanistan's batsmen is very erratic. But their bowlers are capable of doing quite well on bowling friendly pitches. And that's why I think the match will be competitive.

The performance of the batsmen of both Pakistan and Afghanistan teams has been erratic. The average score of the first innings of this pitch is 226 runs. And the average score of the second innings is 204 runs. If Afghanistan can bat first and give Pakistan a target of 280+ runs, it will not be easy for Pakistan to win this match. I would say both teams have chances to win
Although Pakistan's opponent is Afghanistan, today's match will be a very interesting match. We may have to wait till the last ball to see who will win this match today. We have seen Pakistan and Afghanistan matches several times before and in all the matches we have seen between Afghanistan and Pakistan we have to wait till the last ball and either team wins the match in dramatic fashion. Pakistan will play Afghanistan which means Pakistan will be ahead statistically but no team is big in world cup as we have seen in previous few matches and Afghanistan can beat a team like England so I am sure Afghanistan will perform very well against Pakistan. I wouldn't be surprised if there is no change in the Pakistan XI as they did very well against Australia in the last match.

We did not see the expected performance from Pakistan. A target of 283 runs was set aside by them. It is a good enough target considering the pitch. But the bowlers are not doing well. Afghanistan collected 130 runs in the first wicket pair. And they lost their second wicket for just 190 runs. Rahmanullah Gurbaz scored 65 runs and Ibarhim Zadran scored 87 runs. Rahmat Shah remains unbeaten with 32 runs. Afghanistan need only 93 runs. It is not a difficult task. But in the past matches we have seen that Afghanistan are completely dependent on their top order. If Afghanistan lose more wickets in the next few overs, they are likely to lose.
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October 23, 2023, 11:16:29 AM
should I say a pair (Rachin-Mitchell) who managed to hold both ends nicely and in doing so they also counterattacked, which was refreshing from the batting point of view, considering Indian spinners are in great form.

It's wise to say the paid Rachin and Mitchell built the New Zealand innings entirely as this duo scored 205 out of 273 runs. Even though India has a good spin attack, they have used three pacers and two spinners against New Zealand. Jadeja was economical but did not manage to take any wickets while Kuldeep Yadav was expensive and managed to get two wickets.

Compared to this, pacers were more successful on that day. Shami alone took five wickets and two wickets were taken by Siraj and Bumrah. It was Pacers Day for India. Virat missed another century.
At least due to this fixture, we finally had some sort of tight contest, which had almost everything (including a dramatic end in terms of Virat's inning). 

Seamers keeping things tight, the batter fighting back against spin and followed by no 5/3 from the Indians against the Kiwis (I am not sure if i am ever going to forget the 2019 semis encounter). 
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October 23, 2023, 11:15:30 AM
Run rate has come down after Gurbaz got out, this may put pressure on Afghans at tail overs and may lose further wickets, although they have plenty left.

Aside from that, Ibrahim Zadran appears nervous about his hundred  Tongue

Edit: Ibrahim gone, literally the moment I posted this comment. Fear is disease, humans can't help it.
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October 23, 2023, 11:12:27 AM

Afghanistan's opener partnership is out in today's match but the next batsmen will be able to lift Afghanistan's victory. As they didn't lose a wicket till 128 runs, the next batsman, Afghanistan, should not face any problem to collect 155 runs. I can already see the example that Pakistan will lose in today's match.

Today Afghanistan game was good and seems to be the winning strike against the Pakistan,because the first wicket was taken just now with the score of 130 runs.Ibrahim was still in the strike with 60+ runs and help the Afghanistan in the right way to chase the target.The target for the game was just 280 runs from the 50 overs,So no need to worry for the chase.The opening partnership was not expected by the Pakistan team from the Afghanistan.To be frank the Afghanistan and Netherland was taking more responsibility in this league compared to the Srilanka and England.No one believe the England was the winner of the last World Cup by the current game.
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October 23, 2023, 11:07:52 AM
Why I feel after watching Pakistan play today that they have lost their ability to be called as a good bowling side. Afganistan has out perform their ability to bat because of stupid bowling by Pakistan. Then Pakistan has been leaking runs because of poor fielding by Pakistan. It is one the worst performance by Pakistan. I feel they might have fixed this game for Pakistan to lose the match by the Afghanistan war lords like Taliban. For me this is so wired that Pakistan is struggling against Afghanistan. If they lose today they lose big time as they would get rank below their persent ranking
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October 23, 2023, 10:56:52 AM
Dire need of wicket as both Afghan openers make half-century, still have hope for Pakistan because Afghanistan is heavily dependent on their openers, one wicket and rest have chance to fall like pack of cards.

Pakistan is facing a worrisome partnership from Afghanistan as their openers are targeting for big. Afghanistan has shown their capability already with a win against England. So, it wouldn't be surprising if they beat Pakistan today. If they avoid making mistakes, they have a good chance of winning. It's important for them to avoid silly mistakes.
Already broken Afghanistan Opening...
R. Gurbaz 65 runs by Shaheen Afridi. Rahmanullah Gurbaz showed as much as he could for Afghanistan. Now what will the next batsmen do. If Afghanistan can't do better after helping Afghanistan so much, then it's a failure of Afghanistan. Anyway hope Afghanistan does well.
Believe me, Afghanistan is still the favorite and has a good chance to win this game.
Afghanistan needs 108 runs in the next 20 overs in Chennai with nine wickets in hand. It should be an easy chase for Afghanistan.

But you never know, miracles can happen in cricket.
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October 23, 2023, 10:53:01 AM
Dire need of wicket as both Afghan openers make half-century, still have hope for Pakistan because Afghanistan is heavily dependent on their openers, one wicket and rest have chance to fall like pack of cards.

Pakistan is facing a worrisome partnership from Afghanistan as their openers are targeting for big. Afghanistan has shown their capability already with a win against England. So, it wouldn't be surprising if they beat Pakistan today. If they avoid making mistakes, they have a good chance of winning. It's important for them to avoid silly mistakes.
Already broken Afghanistan Opening...
R. Gurbaz 65 runs by Shaheen Afridi. Rahmanullah Gurbaz showed as much as he could for Afghanistan. Now what will the next batsmen do. If Afghanistan can't do better after helping Afghanistan so much, then it's a failure of Afghanistan. Anyway hope Afghanistan does well.
Pakistan set Afghanistan a target of 282 runs. Afghanistan's opening duo Gurbaz and Ibrahim Zadran have been playing brilliantly and their partnership has built up beautifully with Gurbaz scoring a 53-ball 65 as he is dismissed by Shahensha Afridi. Ibrahim Zadran and Rahmat are batting brilliantly. Afghanistan batting looks like they can win this match as they still have nine wickets in hand. Yes. Ibrahim Zadran is batting very well he looks like he can score a century and if he scores it will be good for Afghanistan team. Ibrahim Zadran scored 79 runs off 98 balls. Pakistan bowling is very good now Pakistan bowlers need to get Ibrahim Zadran out very quickly if they want to win this match maybe Afghanistan will be under some pressure.
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October 23, 2023, 10:32:39 AM
Pakistan bowling issue struggling against a weak side like Afganistan. Then they self declare themselves  as the best team to qualify for the semifinals and win the trophy. I would say they are performing much more worst than they did in their previous games. I am sure if they lose today their board would come up with another excuse that would blame the organizers. It is a trademark that Pakistan team is known for sometime now, as they won't accept their issues.

I still feel this game is evenly poised. Both Pakistan and Afghanistan are trying their level best to win today. What I don't understand is why Pakistan has not been able to get wickets fast. Another question that I think every Pakistani team fan should ask what suddenly happened with the fielding.
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October 23, 2023, 10:24:01 AM
Dire need of wicket as both Afghan openers make half-century, still have hope for Pakistan because Afghanistan is heavily dependent on their openers, one wicket and rest have chance to fall like pack of cards.

Pakistan is facing a worrisome partnership from Afghanistan as their openers are targeting for big. Afghanistan has shown their capability already with a win against England. So, it wouldn't be surprising if they beat Pakistan today. If they avoid making mistakes, they have a good chance of winning. It's important for them to avoid silly mistakes.
Already broken Afghanistan Opening...
R. Gurbaz 65 runs by Shaheen Afridi. Rahmanullah Gurbaz showed as much as he could for Afghanistan. Now what will the next batsmen do. If Afghanistan can't do better after helping Afghanistan so much, then it's a failure of Afghanistan. Anyway hope Afghanistan does well.
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