Topic: [ICO 5% BONUS] deCLOUDs - Precious Metals-Backed Crypto-Platform on BlockChain - page 23. (Read 86550 times)
September 28, 2016, 08:01:15 AM
Just sent email to e-cash.org asking for information on Martin Mueller, that's if he even exists.
September 28, 2016, 07:59:30 AM
What is rukontrol.com about? Looks like it's the same person who registered declouds.com
http://domainbigdata.com/ni/KbhR-PlJdgiZdtgymBS1WQ
http://domainbigdata.com/ni/KbhR-PlJdgiZdtgymBS1WQ
And this site is russian so take your conclusions.
September 28, 2016, 07:54:19 AM
What is rukontrol.com about? Looks like it's the same person who registered declouds.com
http://domainbigdata.com/ni/KbhR-PlJdgiZdtgymBS1WQ
http://domainbigdata.com/ni/KbhR-PlJdgiZdtgymBS1WQ
September 28, 2016, 07:51:37 AM
I found all his IP addresses from his DeCLOUDs Twitter account.Can we use them in some way?
I doubt is that useful or not, OP is a professional scammer always hides his ip with VPN or Tor. Why I think that he is a pro scammer? Because he showed escrow information, but made this very elaborate scam(the other escrow isn't alive, and use a 2 of 3 multi-sig addy), therefore one of escrow(you) didn't notice this situation.
September 28, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
and even today someone paid to escrow https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/e114c46f353bdc887563c9917700392641b867d15f5325c1976c964efc8447b5
that's unbelievable
that's unbelievable
September 28, 2016, 07:48:13 AM
Well... I did not await this but I think I have to make this post not as a warning but with informational character only. Everyone should think what he wants of my post.
Well, I was approached by niktitan132 asking me to provide a multisig escrow 2 of 3 for this ICO.
I said this ICO looks good so far and I suggested TwinWinNerD as the second escrow since he is highly trusted and I worked with him some times already.
I got a message back saying that they already asked e-cash.org to provide a public master key. It would be a famous website in german and they want to attract german customers. I never heard of that site and asked in german subforum if I missed something but no... no one every heard of it.
He wrote, well that is fine, that page already negated his request. So his next suggestion was Petros Anagnostou, he is involved with wave and they want to target the greek market, I was told. I checked a bit, he has a greek thread about wave... dunno what's about really. Though I do not really know if he is well known and trusted.
So I answered why does he want to target the greek market when he wants to target the world market. And if all of his investors would say "Yes, I know this guy. I trust him.". I doubt that.
I stressed the point that EVERY party in a multisig escrow needs to be independent. Otherwise the idea could come up that two of the parties somehow are the same of coupled some way.
In any way... I did not hear anything anymore even when asking back.
Now I see those both parties are the other 2 key holders now. Even though e-cash was negating the request before...
Anyway... this is a purely informative post and nothing more.
Well, I was approached by niktitan132 asking me to provide a multisig escrow 2 of 3 for this ICO.
I said this ICO looks good so far and I suggested TwinWinNerD as the second escrow since he is highly trusted and I worked with him some times already.
I got a message back saying that they already asked e-cash.org to provide a public master key. It would be a famous website in german and they want to attract german customers. I never heard of that site and asked in german subforum if I missed something but no... no one every heard of it.
He wrote, well that is fine, that page already negated his request. So his next suggestion was Petros Anagnostou, he is involved with wave and they want to target the greek market, I was told. I checked a bit, he has a greek thread about wave... dunno what's about really. Though I do not really know if he is well known and trusted.
So I answered why does he want to target the greek market when he wants to target the world market. And if all of his investors would say "Yes, I know this guy. I trust him.". I doubt that.
I stressed the point that EVERY party in a multisig escrow needs to be independent. Otherwise the idea could come up that two of the parties somehow are the same of coupled some way.
In any way... I did not hear anything anymore even when asking back.
Now I see those both parties are the other 2 key holders now. Even though e-cash was negating the request before...
Anyway... this is a purely informative post and nothing more.
This is exactly the reason why I asked how the Escrow was arranged. The escow information in the OP only came up after I mentioned it, yet no one seemed bothered to ask this.(is anyone still thinking rationally or just ignorantly focussing on money?) It is a terrible idea that someone calls this an "escrow" yet the escrow key-holders have ties with the dev team. This is not how escrow works. I'm not saying they wont, but if the devs don't deliver say goodbye to your btc.
pathetic that such lowlife people exist...
Funny whenever you start asking questions, you're immediately called FUDer, negative person, and sometimes even threaten with banning, or other stuff. No one wants to listen, but they only see lambos, and millions in their pockets. There're still many potential scams in progress right now in crypto - you'll see it soon, and I guess your bodies are ready
September 28, 2016, 07:46:32 AM
I found all his IP addresses from his DeCLOUDs Twitter account.Can we use them in some way?
Make it public, dont hide information.
This is now a witch hunt.
Yes, let us report FBI, or KGB.
According to OP's name, I predict OP is a Russian, he is not a Germany at all. September 28, 2016, 07:43:58 AM
I just contacted dynadot.com, the website where he registered declouds.com Hopefully, they will give me his contact information.
September 28, 2016, 07:43:31 AM
how terrible it is. why is the problem happened in this deCLOUDs ICO?
This is very dangerous for this coin. it's unbelievable
This is very dangerous for this coin. it's unbelievable
Dangerous you say? This coin is basically over.
September 28, 2016, 07:41:07 AM
how terrible it is. why is the problem happened in this deCLOUDs ICO?
This is very dangerous for this coin. it's unbelievable
This is very dangerous for this coin. it's unbelievable
September 28, 2016, 07:39:05 AM
This is getting more hilarious by the minute.
Obviously photoshopped. It doesn't even take a forensic analysis or an image search to see that, the photos are obviously shopped from the way that people are (not) looking at each other.
The second photo was taken from here: http://aktion-pro-aktie.de/deutschlands-groesste-direktbankenstudie/ then shopped the "dev" with his mic on it. Good job.
Compare:
Obviously photoshopped. It doesn't even take a forensic analysis or an image search to see that, the photos are obviously shopped from the way that people are (not) looking at each other.
The second photo was taken from here: http://aktion-pro-aktie.de/deutschlands-groesste-direktbankenstudie/ then shopped the "dev" with his mic on it. Good job.
Compare:
Thats what you call a scam. Great finding..
Good work friend, I think this proves the source is a big scam
This is the funniest thing i've seen in a long time
September 28, 2016, 07:38:29 AM
I found all his IP addresses from his DeCLOUDs Twitter account.Can we use them in some way?
Make it public, dont hide information.
This is now a witch hunt.
September 28, 2016, 07:35:23 AM
I found all his IP addresses from his DeCLOUDs Twitter account.Can we use them in some way?
you should do that, and help all investors so that his money back September 28, 2016, 07:28:51 AM
I want a refund of my BTC In this ico.
September 28, 2016, 07:23:35 AM
Maybe try download electrum and swap your private key.
September 28, 2016, 07:02:33 AM
Well... I did not await this but I think I have to make this post not as a warning but with informational character only. Everyone should think what he wants of my post.
Well, I was approached by niktitan132 asking me to provide a multisig escrow 2 of 3 for this ICO.
I said this ICO looks good so far and I suggested TwinWinNerD as the second escrow since he is highly trusted and I worked with him some times already.
I got a message back saying that they already asked e-cash.org to provide a public master key. It would be a famous website in german and they want to attract german customers. I never heard of that site and asked in german subforum if I missed something but no... no one every heard of it.
He wrote, well that is fine, that page already negated his request. So his next suggestion was Petros Anagnostou, he is involved with wave and they want to target the greek market, I was told. I checked a bit, he has a greek thread about wave... dunno what's about really. Though I do not really know if he is well known and trusted.
So I answered why does he want to target the greek market when he wants to target the world market. And if all of his investors would say "Yes, I know this guy. I trust him.". I doubt that.
I stressed the point that EVERY party in a multisig escrow needs to be independent. Otherwise the idea could come up that two of the parties somehow are the same of coupled some way.
In any way... I did not hear anything anymore even when asking back.
Now I see those both parties are the other 2 key holders now. Even though e-cash was negating the request before...
Anyway... this is a purely informative post and nothing more.
Well, I was approached by niktitan132 asking me to provide a multisig escrow 2 of 3 for this ICO.
I said this ICO looks good so far and I suggested TwinWinNerD as the second escrow since he is highly trusted and I worked with him some times already.
I got a message back saying that they already asked e-cash.org to provide a public master key. It would be a famous website in german and they want to attract german customers. I never heard of that site and asked in german subforum if I missed something but no... no one every heard of it.
He wrote, well that is fine, that page already negated his request. So his next suggestion was Petros Anagnostou, he is involved with wave and they want to target the greek market, I was told. I checked a bit, he has a greek thread about wave... dunno what's about really. Though I do not really know if he is well known and trusted.
So I answered why does he want to target the greek market when he wants to target the world market. And if all of his investors would say "Yes, I know this guy. I trust him.". I doubt that.
I stressed the point that EVERY party in a multisig escrow needs to be independent. Otherwise the idea could come up that two of the parties somehow are the same of coupled some way.
In any way... I did not hear anything anymore even when asking back.
Now I see those both parties are the other 2 key holders now. Even though e-cash was negating the request before...
Anyway... this is a purely informative post and nothing more.
This is exactly the reason why I asked how the Escrow was arranged. The escow information in the OP only came up after I mentioned it, yet no one seemed bothered to ask this.(is anyone still thinking rationally or just ignorantly focussing on money?) It is a terrible idea that someone calls this an "escrow" yet the escrow key-holders have ties with the dev team. This is not how escrow works. I'm not saying they wont, but if the devs don't deliver say goodbye to your btc.
pathetic that such lowlife people exist...
September 28, 2016, 06:30:59 AM
Yes removing the shamest signature on bitcointalk, even if the tokens are released, nobody wants to list this scam coin on their exchanges, the scammer dev will not have any communication to the public now.
Sorry for the guys who invest on this, that guy in pictures is easy to find. What a stupid guy, if that photoshopped picture are not released, he stil can run this scam till the end, Glad he made a mistake posting it.
Hack the https://forum.declouds.com/ and slack channel, the ips are stored on it, im sure he have made it more mistakes, by logging from his house.
Sorry for the guys who invest on this, that guy in pictures is easy to find. What a stupid guy, if that photoshopped picture are not released, he stil can run this scam till the end, Glad he made a mistake posting it.
Hack the https://forum.declouds.com/ and slack channel, the ips are stored on it, im sure he have made it more mistakes, by logging from his house.
September 28, 2016, 06:26:10 AM
I also sent this email to [email protected] from my personal email address
Hey Stas, or what your name may be, this is our last warning!
Please don't destroy your life, we 've already contacted cybersecurity authorities & Interpol, your personal information will be revealed in a few hours, unless you contact us in declouds-team Slack channel in order to cooperate with us and give back the funds to the people that trusted you!
You have made terrible damage to the people that trusted you & we are fighting for our reputation!
But all these can be undone if you return the funds!
Please if you have any sense of dignity do as we tell you & contact us!
You have 24 hours to contact us, cooperate and return all funds!
Hey Stas, or what your name may be, this is our last warning!
Please don't destroy your life, we 've already contacted cybersecurity authorities & Interpol, your personal information will be revealed in a few hours, unless you contact us in declouds-team Slack channel in order to cooperate with us and give back the funds to the people that trusted you!
You have made terrible damage to the people that trusted you & we are fighting for our reputation!
But all these can be undone if you return the funds!
Please if you have any sense of dignity do as we tell you & contact us!
You have 24 hours to contact us, cooperate and return all funds!
How many BTCs was stolen? So this was a scam totally?
About 300 btc deposited to the escrow address, the other escrow is unknown, maybe the dev himself, so he can direct withdraw that fund cause dev has 2 keys.
September 28, 2016, 06:10:30 AM
I also sent this email to [email protected] from my personal email address
Hey Stas, or what your name may be, this is our last warning!
Please don't destroy your life, we 've already contacted cybersecurity authorities & Interpol, your personal information will be revealed in a few hours, unless you contact us in declouds-team Slack channel in order to cooperate with us and give back the funds to the people that trusted you!
You have made terrible damage to the people that trusted you & we are fighting for our reputation!
But all these can be undone if you return the funds!
Please if you have any sense of dignity do as we tell you & contact us!
You have 24 hours to contact us, cooperate and return all funds!
Hey Stas, or what your name may be, this is our last warning!
Please don't destroy your life, we 've already contacted cybersecurity authorities & Interpol, your personal information will be revealed in a few hours, unless you contact us in declouds-team Slack channel in order to cooperate with us and give back the funds to the people that trusted you!
You have made terrible damage to the people that trusted you & we are fighting for our reputation!
But all these can be undone if you return the funds!
Please if you have any sense of dignity do as we tell you & contact us!
You have 24 hours to contact us, cooperate and return all funds!
How many BTCs was stolen? So this was a scam totally?
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