whales fucking around now....ugh was SO nice at 62k. now back sub fitty. niggaz be playin lol.
anyways, here's to MOON april-june for ICN.
Topic: ICONOMI - Live for today. Invest for tomorrow. - page 314. (Read 583535 times)
lol ppl and their lame fud when they can't even understand what they ico was about. FAIL.
whales fucking around now....ugh was SO nice at 62k. now back sub fitty. niggaz be playin lol.
anyways, here's to MOON april-june for ICN.
whales fucking around now....ugh was SO nice at 62k. now back sub fitty. niggaz be playin lol.
anyways, here's to MOON april-june for ICN.
Yes it is a calculated move to get more funds from the public, that's the definition of an ico. Who calculated the move, though? Were Tim and Jani the masterminds behind this plan because they wanted more money?
Or is it more likely that Yan and Daniel wanted a bigger piece of the pie then they would get if they stayed on as salaried employees of Iconomi? Can you blame them for that if they saw an opportunity to fill a niche in the market?
How would you have kept it running as it was if two employees were determined to start their own venture?
Or is it more likely that Yan and Daniel wanted a bigger piece of the pie then they would get if they stayed on as salaried employees of Iconomi? Can you blame them for that if they saw an opportunity to fill a niche in the market?
How would you have kept it running as it was if two employees were determined to start their own venture?
Couldn't have said it better myself. Cheers!
My first post.
We are at the unpredictable days of crypto-currencies and assets.
A young bull is slowly progressing.
We always have to remember "There are no shortcuts" but Visions and Dreams do exist.
Who's gonna burn??
We are at the unpredictable days of crypto-currencies and assets.
A young bull is slowly progressing.
We always have to remember "There are no shortcuts" but Visions and Dreams do exist.
Who's gonna burn?? 
People selling means a lower ICN price which means more will be burned on April 1st when buybacks start.
mwhahaha very very good point!
People selling means a lower ICN price which means more will be burned on April 1st when buybacks start.
platform wont come today obviously... news seem good but kinda sketchy, anyways lets wait and see. Still, it might drop a lot soon
No one is going to call you a fudder for posting your opinion on this, because most skeptical people thought similar things they first heard about it.
Getting upset that they switched from dividends to buyback, imo, was silly. That makes no difference economically, except I could see why people were upset about the communication around it.
This is something different.
Maybe this is what happened. Yan and Daniel joined the Iconomi team later, so they were not holding a % of the ICN supply. Where was their incentive to put all their energy into increasing the ICN value for ICN holders?
Of course they are going to want to start their own project/brand if they are the type of personalities who want to build and lead something with autonomy.
The market will decide if they like this new venture or not. There's a chance Iconomi will be by far their biggest investor and it won't make much difference except now Daniel and Yan will get some % equity in their own brand.
If Daniel and Yan wanted to start their own brand/project, what is Iconomi going to do about that? What would you do in that situation?
Getting upset that they switched from dividends to buyback, imo, was silly. That makes no difference economically, except I could see why people were upset about the communication around it.
This is something different.
Maybe this is what happened. Yan and Daniel joined the Iconomi team later, so they were not holding a % of the ICN supply. Where was their incentive to put all their energy into increasing the ICN value for ICN holders?
Of course they are going to want to start their own project/brand if they are the type of personalities who want to build and lead something with autonomy.
The market will decide if they like this new venture or not. There's a chance Iconomi will be by far their biggest investor and it won't make much difference except now Daniel and Yan will get some % equity in their own brand.
If Daniel and Yan wanted to start their own brand/project, what is Iconomi going to do about that? What would you do in that situation?
Thanks for the response.
Yeah, I understand there were a lot of questions in the slack about this. So people were obviously concerned.
You make good points, but it's still sketchy to me.
What I'd do? ... I'd have kept it running as it was. I don't personally believe that Yan and Daniel were going to leave and do their own thing. I believe it's a calculated move to get more funds from the public. I'm just suspicious of any moves they make now, really. I get that other people aren't going to be as suspicious/sceptical as I am, though.
Maybe part of this is my own personality and how I look at things.
Anyway, like I say, I don't want it to be an ongoing debate. I understand that you and others will present the other side of this, and that's great. It's good for all viewpoints to be available for people to read, and make up their own minds.
I hope it works out for the people who are more positive than I am
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What I'd do? ... I'd have kept it running as it was. I don't personally believe that Yan and Daniel were going to leave and do their own thing. I believe it's a calculated move to get more funds from the public. I'm just suspicious of any moves they make now, really. I get that other people aren't going to be as suspicious/sceptical as I am, though.
Yes it is a calculated move to get more funds from the public, that's the definition of an ico. Who calculated the move, though? Were Tim and Jani the masterminds behind this plan because they wanted more money?
Or is it more likely that Yan and Daniel wanted a bigger piece of the pie then they would get if they stayed on as salaried employees of Iconomi? Can you blame them for that if they saw an opportunity to fill a niche in the market?
How would you have kept it running as it was if two employees were determined to start their own venture?
Why is the price dropping ?
Because people with the knowledge and the power try to manipulate markets and want to goggle up as much cheap ICN as possible before tomorrows buy back starts and before anymore news comes out about OFMP.
Also, yesterdays news has made some people give up on ICN and move on. I don't know why as the news will only mean more good things for Iconomi.
Why is the price dropping ?
Try reading the last few pages.
but it's reason for growing not droping if you think about it a little more
Why is the price dropping ?
Try reading the last few pages.
Why is the price dropping ?
No one is going to call you a fudder for posting your opinion on this, because most skeptical people thought similar things they first heard about it.
Getting upset that they switched from dividends to buyback, imo, was silly. That makes no difference economically, except I could see why people were upset about the communication around it.
This is something different.
Maybe this is what happened. Yan and Daniel joined the Iconomi team later, so they were not holding a % of the ICN supply. Where was their incentive to put all their energy into increasing the ICN value for ICN holders?
Of course they are going to want to start their own project/brand if they are the type of personalities who want to build and lead something with autonomy.
The market will decide if they like this new venture or not. There's a chance Iconomi will be by far their biggest investor and it won't make much difference except now Daniel and Yan will get some % equity in their own brand.
If Daniel and Yan wanted to start their own brand/project, what is Iconomi going to do about that? What would you do in that situation?
Getting upset that they switched from dividends to buyback, imo, was silly. That makes no difference economically, except I could see why people were upset about the communication around it.
This is something different.
Maybe this is what happened. Yan and Daniel joined the Iconomi team later, so they were not holding a % of the ICN supply. Where was their incentive to put all their energy into increasing the ICN value for ICN holders?
Of course they are going to want to start their own project/brand if they are the type of personalities who want to build and lead something with autonomy.
The market will decide if they like this new venture or not. There's a chance Iconomi will be by far their biggest investor and it won't make much difference except now Daniel and Yan will get some % equity in their own brand.
If Daniel and Yan wanted to start their own brand/project, what is Iconomi going to do about that? What would you do in that situation?
Thanks for the response.
Yeah, I understand there were a lot of questions in the slack about this. So people were obviously concerned.
You make good points, but it's still sketchy to me.
What I'd do? ... I'd have kept it running as it was. I don't personally believe that Yan and Daniel were going to leave and do their own thing. I believe it's a calculated move to get more funds from the public. I'm just suspicious of any moves they make now, really. I get that other people aren't going to be as suspicious/sceptical as I am, though.
Maybe part of this is my own personality and how I look at things.
Anyway, like I say, I don't want it to be an ongoing debate. I understand that you and others will present the other side of this, and that's great. It's good for all viewpoints to be available for people to read, and make up their own minds.
I hope it works out for the people who are more positive than I am
Unless maybe this is their way to bring the ICN lower for them to buy back in at? While in the meantime getting rid of those who have negative thoughts on the project. Lmao.
perhaps? LOL so they can purchase ICN tokens cheaper? IT COULD BE xd
Anyhow, for cofound.it to be fund raising, what method are they gonna use to raise their funds?
Selling the remaining 13 Million tokens?
New tokens call CFI?
Unless maybe this is their way to bring the ICN lower for them to buy back in at? While in the meantime getting rid of those who have negative thoughts on the project. Lmao.
Ok, I've held my tongue too long...
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Hi Mendeleev,
Thanks for the encouragement. I'm actually flattered by your comment.
It really speaks volume for the quality of my analysis. The truth is I was genuinely happy when Iconomi accepted my proposal of the "buyback program" and went through with it. It was really a coincidence though.So.. what lies and broken promises you were talking about? Were you holding your tongue too, when ICN was flying for the past 3 days?
Your post has more holes than Swiss cheese, so I won't bother to refute it. And No, I don't work for Iconomi. I do consider it an honor when someone insinuates it though.
That's fine. I've said my piece.
I'm not going to list all the different lies/promises that have bothered me personally, because I don't really want to drag this out into a big debate. Similar to you not wanting to refute my points. It'll just go on and on, and I'm not interested in arguing about this at length.
I've made my mind up. You've made yours. I'm happy with that.
Look over my recent posts re: holding my tongue. I've said bits and pieces. I also sold days ago (which I stated at the time) - I just didn't want to do a big negative post, but I decided I would share my thoughts today.
Don't worry, I'm not going to add further criticisms in future. I've said what I said, and it feels like I've got it out of my system now.
We all make our decisions based on various factors. For me, there's certain principles I hold that have steered me away. Perhaps it's emotional. Perhaps cold hard logic dictates that I'll be missing out on some profits here.
Think of it like Dash. Many people have passed on Dash because of the premine, and thinking the team is shady. Those people missed good profits too. I'm feeling similar about this. Shady. Might make me more money. Might not. But the team are shady in my view, so I'm out.
Anyway, my goal isn't to convince people to see things my way. Just to share, and let them decide themselves.
If you really are unconnected to the team then I am pleased for you that your idea has been implemented. I remember when you originally posted it, and someone said it was a stupid idea. So well done for that
No one is going to call you a fudder for posting your opinion on this, because most skeptical people thought similar things when they first heard about it.
Getting upset that they switched from dividends to buyback, imo, was silly. That makes no difference economically, except I could see why people were upset about the communication around it.
This is something different.
Maybe this is what happened. Yan and Daniel joined the Iconomi team later, so they were not holding a % of the ICN supply. Where was their incentive to put all their energy into increasing the ICN value for ICN holders?
Of course they are going to want to start their own project/brand if they are the type of personalities who want to build and lead something with autonomy.
The market will decide if they like this new venture. There's a chance Iconomi will be their biggest investor and it won't make much difference to ICN holders except now Daniel and Yan will get some % equity and autonomy to build a specialized service that will benefit clients like Iconomi.
If Daniel and Yan wanted to start their own venture, what is Iconomi going to do about that? What would you do in that situation?
Two employees leave their company to start their own company, is this something out of the ordinary in the business world?
Ok, I've held my tongue too long...
....
Hi Mendeleev,
Thanks for the encouragement. I'm actually flattered by your comment.
It really speaks volume for the quality of my analysis. The truth is I was genuinely happy when Iconomi accepted my proposal of the "buyback program" and went through with it. It was really a coincidence though.So.. what lies and broken promises you were talking about? Were you holding your tongue too, when ICN was flying for the past 3 days?
Your post has more holes than Swiss cheese, so I won't bother to refute it. And No, I don't work for Iconomi. I do consider it an honor when someone insinuates it though.
That's fine. I've said my piece.
I'm not going to list all the different lies/promises that have bothered me personally, because I don't really want to drag this out into a big debate. Similar to you not wanting to refute my points. It'll just go on and on, and I'm not interested in arguing about this at length.
I've made my mind up. You've made yours. I'm happy with that.
Look over my recent posts re: holding my tongue. I've said bits and pieces. I also sold days ago (which I stated at the time) - I just didn't want to do a big negative post, but I decided I would share my thoughts today.
Don't worry, I'm not going to add further criticisms in future. I've said what I said, and it feels like I've got it out of my system now.
We all make our decisions based on various factors. For me, there's certain principles I hold that have steered me away. Perhaps it's emotional. Perhaps cold hard logic dictates that I'll be missing out on some profits here.
Think of it like Dash. Many people have passed on Dash because of the premine, and thinking the team is shady. Those people missed good profits too. I'm feeling similar about this. Shady. Might make me more money. Might not. But the team are shady in my view, so I'm out.
Anyway, my goal isn't to convince people to see things my way. Just to share, and let them decide themselves.
If you really are unconnected to the team then I am pleased for you that your idea has been implemented. I remember when you originally posted it, and someone said it was a stupid idea. So well done for that (even if it was a coincidence)
Price prediction after 1 April?
Every time I see a fud,I know something big is going to happen and hold on to my stack strongly. There is no reason a newbie account trying hard to convince us to get out of it.
Last time FUD brought down the price and it bounced back higher than previous high.
They want to buy as many as they can before 1st April and they want it as cheap as possible.
So they resorted to what they are good at...FUD.
Come April and ICN will be $1-$2
I don't understand this whole thing. Too much concern for nothing IMO. Is there anyone here that believes that ICNX will not be released? ICNX is almost ready guys. And is there anyone that believes that upon ICNX release, price will not increase? Also, is there anyone who believes that once the buyback starts, price will also not increase?
Price prediction after 1 April?
Every time I see a fud,I know something big is going to happen and hold on to my stack strongly. There is no reason a newbie account trying hard to convince us to get out of it.
Last time FUD brought down the price and it bounced back higher than previous high.
They want to buy as many as they can before 1st April and they want it as cheap as possible.
So they resorted to what they are good at...FUD.
Come April and ICN will be $1-$2
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make your own mind up.....
Status: ok
Created: 2013-01-23 08:00:00
Last Update: 2016-10-05 13:07:13
Expire Date: 2017-10-05
Registrant
Organization: STRELOVOD D.O.O.
Admin Contact
Name: MITJA ZAGAR
Organization: STRELOVOD D.O.O.
Technical Contacts
Name: MITJA ZAGAR
Organization: STRELOVOD D.O.O.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/wwwmz
make your own mind up.....
I own about 20-30 URL's that I'm not using. I'm just waiting for the right opportunity or project to use one of the names.
Jani and Jan confirmed on slack that ICN holders will effectively own a % of this new company. The exact details will be released.
IMO new companies would rather work with a company that is purely focused on ICO's (like CoFound.it) than a company that also has their own project (like ICONOMI).
It was also confirmed yesterday in the slack all due diligence and information sourced by CoFound.it would be passed onto ICONOMI for free. Other companies who plan to invest would need to pay for this data. Also ICONOMI will retain a share of the company CoFound.it.
The fact that CoFound.it is partnering with Deloitte brings enormous credibility and enormous potential for our ICNP investments.
I just looked up about Tim's company and it already from 2009 so i doubt it was planned
Couldn't you guys keep this shit from being published whle I'm at work? I'm done, selling this while still in profits as soon as I get home. This is getting sketchier by the day.
You can refrain from replying with the usual weak hands/fudder/panicseller posts. That shit's getting stale. Keep posting your lambos though, really hopegiving...
You can refrain from replying with the usual weak hands/fudder/panicseller posts. That shit's getting stale. Keep posting your lambos though, really hopegiving...
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