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Topic: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates? - page 11. (Read 2115 times)

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Having an education and the certificate that’s comes from it doesn’t guarantee one a job. While your degrees may shows you’re certified and have the necessary educational qualifications for an opening, it still may not be enough for the employer.
Most job applicants applying has the basic educational requirements needed hence the employer may decide to use other methods in his selection process which could lead to weeding out applicants with high grades.

I don’t think anyone ever said being a graduate is the key to being wealthy.
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I believe that learning doesn't just happen within the confines of schools but also through interactions with other people, experiences, and personal efforts to understand something. There are well known successful individuals today who are dropouts and did not graduate, but that doesn't mean they didn't learn. Many of these successful people exerted effort to learn, such as having a passion for reading books and other activities. On the other hand, many students who attend school do not necessarily study or are lazy to learn. Therefore, when they finish their studies, they have acquired only a small amount of knowledge, so they won't really progress compared to some dropouts who exerted their own efforts to study and gained a wealth of knowledge, which is why they are very successful now.
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 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.


That's true, There's a lot college graduates in many countries but still not that wealthy because thay didn't have a chance to explore and can show their talent. sometimes they just accept a job that is not suitable for the course they completed, there are many college graduates who if you look at it, why are they not progressing in life? it's also because of the companies that pay low wages but give a lot of workload, which is also underpaid.
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Getting a graduate degree is like getting a visa. It's basically an entry point into a vast and competitive world where only the strongest survive while the weak perish. Skills plus luck matter a lot in such a world.

If your skills suck, no number of graduate degrees can help you. On the other hand, if your skills are awesome, a single graduate degree from any legit university will get the job done.
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We need to understand one thing that graduate degree doesn't automatically qualifies you for job and it's actually skills which makes one qualify for the job and I wouldn't like to share the examples Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg as even though they couldn't complete the education still they being successful but if you look at job post shared by these people for their organisation you will find they prefer graduates and
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It's like asking why people who don't smoke get lung cancer or people who smoke live to be 90 years old. It is a question of probabilities. On average the income of those with university degrees is higher than those without. Then, for those who have a degree and are poor, in most cases it is because they have chosen a degree that has little use in the marketplace. You will see few poor doctors, but don't be surprised to see philosophy graduates with little income.
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In my country, their is a saying that goes like this; you must not go to school to be successful, but you have to go to school to be enlightened, education doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but it mostly enlightened you for you to be able to see things differently, but for you to be successful, you have to be able to solves people problem, by rendering service to people in what ever form.

As for me I don't see schooling as a means of being successful, I just sees it as part of the process, that enlightens you, and gives you the ability to have a clear picture of life, but as an individual, you have to have that ability to think out of the box which will definitely make a difference in your life.

Fair and very well said. You shouldn’t always consider everything from a financial perspective. Education makes our lives more meaningful. People with correct views have the best moral qualities, for which the person is first important and only then the desire for wealth. The world is becoming very practical, so much so that people cease to be people and value everything only in terms of money. Listen to the answers of young people if you ask them the question: What will you do for money? You will be shocked.
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For me, it is important to take the educational path so that we cannot be fooled or deceived by other people. Through education you can be more creative freely, especially in this era of very sophisticated digitalization, there are lots of jobs you can do after studying at university which makes it easier for you to accumulate wealth. There is no guarantee that graduates will have a better life with all the wealth they have and it is possible that people who have dropped out of school will be more successful than those who have graduated. The success of people who dropped out of school in being on the list of the richest people in the world indicates that university graduates are not always able to produce great people.

I agree with what you say, that education is very important even though there are some people who say that you don't have to go through education to become rich, but at least we have found a lot of knowledge that we have gained during education and this will make it easier for us to find suitable work. with the skills we have, for those who achieve success they do not go through college, of course they have gone through various learning processes outside of college which enable them to achieve success. The point is that everyone has to work hard and learn well what they will do if they want to achieve success.
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Going to school or becoming a graduate is not a guarantee that one will be rich.  If being a graduate is what makes people to be rich every graduate would have been rich . People becomes rich for so many reasons,  and their is no particular formula to acquire wealth or to becomes rich. When you see graduate who are not rich , just know that it is not everyone that passed through school will become rich .
That's true, although there are many out of school youth. There are also many people that have their graduate studies but that doesn't signify that they're going to be rich and successful in life. The attitude towards to something what they do and even their work ethics is going to contribute to their future. While I believe that education is important and everyone should be entitled for that. But with students loans, graduate people are working to pay off those debt. If there's a way to eliminate that the quickest way, that should be done so that as a graduate student, you have a good start and your mind isn't set into paying those debt first because it's going to cause you stress and anxiety that might affect your encouragement into working to something you love.

Education is important in attaining someone else's ambition but your actions will tell you what are you gonna achieve in life. If you won't use your education to develop your skills to find good income, it will only stay that way. It is still on you how you will exhaust the potential of what you learned in improving your means of living. Just look at some people who only got their Bachelor's degree, and yet, they are doing good in life. Whereas, some with graduate studies are barely surviving in their day to day life. It goes to show that the education is not the ultimate basis where you go in life, but sure, it can aid you achieve things if you know how to employ it in advancing yourself in this life.
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In my country, their is a saying that goes like this; you must not go to school to be successful, but you have to go to school to be enlightened, education doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but it mostly enlightened you for you to be able to see things differently, but for you to be successful, you have to be able to solves people problem, by rendering service to people in what ever form.

As for me I don't see schooling as a means of being successful, I just sees it as part of the process, that enlightens you, and gives you the ability to have a clear picture of life, but as an individual, you have to have that ability to think out of the box which will definitely make a difference in your life.
We can’t expect that graduates will become rich immediately. They still have to work on what they have studied from schools. While schooling cannot give them assurance to be successful in the future, but in order for one to succeed, one should gain good education and quality learning wherein schools are capable of that. But it does not mean that once you graduate, you’re bound to be rich. No. You make your own fate and destination. The great challenge here is how you will apply everything you have learned when you are still in schools.
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 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

Yes you are correct. Education prepares an individual towards any challenging problem that they can face in the society or in the labour market. Education can make someone to become smarter. Education is not only about becoming rich, there are graduates that doesn't want to become very rich, they also don't want to be poor but want to be in the middle so that they can at satisfy their needs.  I am a student, one day me and my colleagues in school were having a debate on the reason why some people choose education. From our debate, it was concluded that most people acquire education because they want to get a job after graduation.
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Going to school or becoming a graduate is not a guarantee that one will be rich.  If being a graduate is what makes people to be rich every graduate would have been rich . People becomes rich for so many reasons,  and their is no particular formula to acquire wealth or to becomes rich. When you see graduate who are not rich , just know that it is not everyone that passed through school will become rich .
That's true, although there are many out of school youth. There are also many people that have their graduate studies but that doesn't signify that they're going to be rich and successful in life. The attitude towards to something what they do and even their work ethics is going to contribute to their future. While I believe that education is important and everyone should be entitled for that. But with students loans, graduate people are working to pay off those debt. If there's a way to eliminate that the quickest way, that should be done so that as a graduate student, you have a good start and your mind isn't set into paying those debt first because it's going to cause you stress and anxiety that might affect your encouragement into working to something you love.
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People say that Being a graduate is the key to being a slave and I kind of understand the point because every graduate goes out to find a job and when they find the job, they are so excited and begin their 9 to 5, and could work the job for years and still not have so much money in savings. If you think about the wealthy people in the world today, they didn’t get there by being a graduate. Being a graduate can lead you to wealth but it isn’t often the case from what I know.
If anyone thinks that being an employee in a company means making him a slave then let him stop working and he will definitely be enslaved by his poverty,
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Saying that being an employee in a company makes one a slave doesn’t mean that you should wake up tomorrow morning and go quit your job. It rather means that while you’re doing the job, have other plans. While working, you should be looking for ways to ensure that you make more money and have more control over your time. People spend up to 7 years of their life working for a company, isn’t that slavery? (they choose to be the slave). The race from poverty doesn’t mean you should keep your dream aside and put all your life building someone else’s dream.
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I don't think that western education has ever been one of the requirements for someone to be successful because if you remember well from movies and stories before the advent and priority of western education, they have always been wealthy men in history. There are some undergraduates in school already making money and not even planning to use the certificate from what they are studying to look for job. These people just need the certificate from western education. When someone has not acquired certificates from Western School the person should not be considered a complete illiterate incapable of the getting wealthy because there are some local knowledge that can passed onwards from our fathers in the form of Education that can turn us into world demand tomorrow.
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Going to school or becoming a graduate is not a guarantee that one will be rich.  If being a graduate is what makes people to be rich every graduate would have been rich . People becomes rich for so many reasons,  and their is no particular formula to acquire wealth or to becomes rich. When you see graduate who are not rich , just know that it is not everyone that passed through school will become rich .
Education plays an important role to become more successful and having your degree is not the end of your journey to success because it will still take time and you need to do a lot of work for you to become successful or even become rich. Many educated people are not that successful because of their choices in life and because of being afraid to go out of their comfort zone. There’s a lot of opportunity out there, once you are able to get your degree and your dream profession, make sure to do your best and be more inspired to reach your goal, this is not a race though and we all have the chance to become rich.
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The stigma about the purpose of education is to be successful is actually not wrong but its placement is sometimes less precise.
We must realize that until now the purpose of education is to make us who originally did not know to know not instantly become someone who is rich, it's just that we are always pegged that sometimes with education and certificates obtained in education is a thing that can become rich.

Indeed, it is also actually not to blame but it is less precise because education is a bridge so that we become more informed and can be used as one aspect in supporting so that we have a good economy. But on the other hand it is also not enough with education alone because if the benchmark is a certificate then until now we will not see microsoft created by Bill Gates who is rich in his own way because after all we have to be able to survive to become rich and one of the stairs to be able to get wealth is a good education so that we can become someone who is responsive and educated to assess something.
Not that those who do not know formal education and do not have educational certificates will not be successful and rich but at least there is something more that we can see and use as initial capital if we have education.
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You're asking us a question by taking a statement for granted, like it's some kind of rule. No, graduating isn't a key to being wealthy, this isn't true, so the whole followup makes no sense. We don't have to prove why there are poor graduates to you, because the first part of the question is false.

Anyway, poor graduates exist exactly because graduating isn't a key to anything. It helps you get a job, but it's not a guarantee of wealth! A good example of this is a person that I know who graduated with a degree in math and immediately got a job as a teacher. That person still is a teacher after 10 years and used to earn very little and is now still earning the same shitty money. It was hard to get a degree and that degree made it easy to get a job, but that job will never make you wealthy. It's a below average pay with no way to become anything else. You start as a teacher and end up as a teacher after 40 years in the system. I also know a man who never got a degree and drove a truck. He did not even finish high school, yet he earns more as a driver than that match teacher.
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It's not a guaranteed thing that after graduation, you'll be rich. But there's the advantage of someone graduating and going on in the job market.

The graduate person has an advantage over those other applicants that are not yet degree holders if the company prefers someone who has finished a degree.

It's all about the preference of the company if we're talking with the path of being an employee and not being rich. I knew a lot of people that didn't finished college but are successful like Mark and other those tech CEOs.

But they're all talented and more than a risk taker.
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Going to school or becoming a graduate is not a guarantee that one will be rich.  If being a graduate is what makes people to be rich every graduate would have been rich . People becomes rich for so many reasons,  and their is no particular formula to acquire wealth or to becomes rich. When you see graduate who are not rich , just know that it is not everyone that passed through school will become rich .
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In my country, their is a saying that goes like this; you must not go to school to be successful, but you have to go to school to be enlightened, education doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but it mostly enlightened you for you to be able to see things differently, but for you to be successful, you have to be able to solves people problem, by rendering service to people in what ever form.

As for me I don't see schooling as a means of being successful, I just sees it as part of the process, that enlightens you, and gives you the ability to have a clear picture of life, but as an individual, you have to have that ability to think out of the box which will definitely make a difference in your life.
Being a degree holder will not guarantee being wealthy in the future, but it can be a stepping milestone so you can achieve your financial goals in life. Schooling is not the key, but investment is certainly the key. If you don’t open your eyes to the reality of life, you will never see progress, if you don’t invest, you will never be wealthy.

However, the process is not that easy. Sometimes getting into your wealth demands sacrifice. So you need to actually compromise what you have been used to do and start getting out from your shell. Be a risk taker and be patient, and always believe in your own skills and capabilities, they are the keys to achieve your wealth in the future.
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