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I'd say is not everyone who's suppose to be successful in life, you can go to school and end up being unsuccessful but those who never had the opportunity to go to school can be successful in what ever they put their hands. In some parts of the world, you see a graduate struggling to get something that suits what he or she studied in school and they won't get it but those non-graduates are the ones occupying those higher positions.
Life is never the way we picture it, you can see a graduate that has a better business but there's no progress in it while someone who hasn't been to school is progressing in that same business, to me I'd say is just grace or should I say luck, you're a graduate doesn't mean anything you do would make you successful, not all graduate are suppose to make it in life which means school is not for everyone.
Going to school or having a higher education does not guarantee success, but their percentage of being able to get a job is much greater, but this cannot be the same for everyone, everyone has different opportunities and different times.
So whether success or not doesn't depend on anything, it all comes down to each person's chance and luck.
To some extend I think it has to do with luck but not just with luck and chance like the way most people have a created chance to work without struggling but majority of population will have to make through and struggle for the chance. When we talk about opportunity we should also consider the skill and a lot of graduates don't have the skill to acquire such opportunity. The society is just built with connection and hard work even as a graduate now you don't have a guarantee of getting a job so quick, sometimes people should learn to build and have determination and if possible you can create something better rather than seeking for a job. As a graduate, if you're 100% good and lacking a job don't ever have the impression of education as not valued in the society.
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

First of all we should ponder what it really means being educated on anything. Education to me should be more of skill acquisition and not for the sole aim of boasting with the degree or certificate. Being educated on something you can't really defend and you don't practice it to grow in it is totally waste of time and resources.

Most atimes our visions are being disturbed by the people around us sometimes our parents by bending us to directions we aren't really ok with.In the course of your basic education you should be able to spot out that which you love doing it and you can do better and follow that part till you become the best in it.

So in all I say education is the knowledge you need to grow your mind but what's important is how you put this knowledge gained to work. Creativity is needed to stand out from the crowd.
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I'd say is not everyone who's suppose to be successful in life, you can go to school and end up being unsuccessful but those who never had the opportunity to go to school can be successful in what ever they put their hands. In some parts of the world, you see a graduate struggling to get something that suits what he or she studied in school and they won't get it but those non-graduates are the ones occupying those higher positions.
Life is never the way we picture it, you can see a graduate that has a better business but there's no progress in it while someone who hasn't been to school is progressing in that same business, to me I'd say is just grace or should I say luck, you're a graduate doesn't mean anything you do would make you successful, not all graduate are suppose to make it in life which means school is not for everyone.
Going to school or having a higher education does not guarantee success, but their percentage of being able to get a job is much greater, but this cannot be the same for everyone, everyone has different opportunities and different times.
So whether success or not doesn't depend on anything, it all comes down to each person's chance and luck.
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Being a graduate is definitely the key, but it doesn't automatically make you wealthy. That key is more like a ticket, so you can open a door, and then you can join a certain competition that a non-graduate people can not join. The result of that competition whether you are winning or not will be determined by other factors, like your skills, ability, smartness, toughness, your effort, etc. Sure there is another key and door to join the competition, but it's so hidden and uncertain. Education, or being a graduate is the most certain way to get the key to join the competition of life.
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Of course education is one thing. That's the basic requirements most jobs are looking. If you're a graduate, it'll increase your qualifications for their requirements. But obviously, it isn't just the only requirements when seeking for a job. Because comparing to non graduates, they have more opportunities. But there are hundreds of people looking for the same position as yours so that's the hard part. Even if you get the job, that doesn't guarantee you a successful life in the future. It'll still depends on your fate, the opportunities that will come to you, and how you deal with it.

There are academically achievers but lacks knowledge and skills when it comes to applying things in real life.  That's why for others, even if they are good at studying, those who are bad at studying can still surpass them with achievements in life...
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I'd say is not everyone who's suppose to be successful in life, you can go to school and end up being unsuccessful but those who never had the opportunity to go to school can be successful in what ever they put their hands. In some parts of the world, you see a graduate struggling to get something that suits what he or she studied in school and they won't get it but those non-graduates are the ones occupying those higher positions.
Life is never the way we picture it, you can see a graduate that has a better business but there's no progress in it while someone who hasn't been to school is progressing in that same business, to me I'd say is just grace or should I say luck, you're a graduate doesn't mean anything you do would make you successful, not all graduate are suppose to make it in life which means school is not for everyone.
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Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
schooling is just part of the stages of life that helps you navigate through your adulthood  effectively. The knowledge you get in the higher institution is first off to help you perfect and practice in a chosen carrier or and to help shape Thier views about things that will at the end of the day make them prepare Thier minds to facing the reality of life.

It's not a sure ticket to financial fredom and doing well at school doesn't directly translet to being wealthy but the advantage is that if you did well in school and you bring that same level of committent to the circular society, it's going to be defficult to still remain poor. Coming out with first class is not a small feet that anyone can just accomplish by mere wishfull thinking. Its a product of dedication and dewcipline to your academics whish are basically the needed ingredient that will carry you through life easily.
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy

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That's right, education will not make you rich, it's just one way to make you rich. Because rich people do not only go through education, but also look for opportunities, perseverance in trying, take advantage of their parents' inheritance, have networks and privileges, and the most important thing is luck.
Maybe for some people they don't really believe that rich people are lucky people, but I believe in that. Because of the many rich people around me, on average they come from poor families, but they can become rich because they find someone who helps them or get a job/business that even a graduate cannot achieve. It's a little absurd, but it's reality.
To get luck, you have to be smart in looking for and taking advantage of opportunities. Wealth can be achieved through creativity in creating new innovations in all businesses, even though someone who is highly educated has various knowledge and theories obtained during their education, if they are not able to look for opportunities it is very difficult to become rich.
Poor people or those who are not educated only take advantage of the opportunities around them to get a job, they will study it and use the knowledge gained in that job to open their own business. While highly educated people are more focused on finding work, this difference in mindset means that uneducated people can achieve success with their beliefs and always take advantage of opportunities.
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy

-snip-

That's right, education will not make you rich, it's just one way to make you rich. Because rich people do not only go through education, but also look for opportunities, perseverance in trying, take advantage of their parents' inheritance, have networks and privileges, and the most important thing is luck.
Maybe for some people they don't really believe that rich people are lucky people, but I believe in that. Because of the many rich people around me, on average they come from poor families, but they can become rich because they find someone who helps them or get a job/business that even a graduate cannot achieve. It's a little absurd, but it's reality.
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Some/the system of education is structured/set in such a way that once you graduate from the university, you go seeking for jobs, instead of supposed adding value, becoming independent and even an employer of workers and now what happens in situations where there are more jobseekers than employers, definitely many graduates will be left with no jobs and that's undoubtedly about things in many countries as of today, and because most of these graduates are not being taught entrepreneurship in school and how to sustain even without a job.
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Education is key,but its not the pathway to achieve succes.There're so many ways to achieve success,success in general means different thing to different people, and having good grades does not contribute to your success at all and that's a misconception that you'll should never believe.
 Having good grades is just a feeling that someone should have/know,and there are many factors that can determine ones Success in life ranging from dedication,self discipline,intelligence,perseverance and determination e.t.c.So many successful people in life we're not able to finish college,but they became successful afterwards and that's because there's a difference between an intelligent person and an intellectual being,and the difference is visibly clear,its about the creativity and uniqueness that someone possess.
 Academic performance cannot be measured in the real world pertaining to success or achievement and let's all be realistic about the situation.The important is let everybody strive hard in whatever that they do,work hard,and develop themselves in ways that can make them useful and productive to themselves.
The world needs problem solvers,and Its not the one with the degree;its the one with the knowledge and skills that comes first in life.Having the degree might seem and sound very huge but what your creativity,mindset,mentality and intellect carries,can be out of this world.
Yes, there's no such thing about guarantee on this world when we do speak or talk about success because we do know that competition is really high. Jobs are limited or simply the opportunities isnt open
to anyone and the best of the best would be the ones will be chosen. This is why you would really be fighting something for that position. Somehow it doesnt mean that education cant make you rich then you wont
pursue on finishing you studies. It would really be always best and recommended that you should really be finishing your studies because this is the way that you could be able to get a job, then later on
if you do want to succeed in terms of financial then you could always opt to have some side income via having those business and investment.
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Education is key,but its not the pathway to achieve succes.There're so many ways to achieve success,success in general means different thing to different people, and having good grades does not contribute to your success at all and that's a misconception that you'll should never believe.
 Having good grades is just a feeling that someone should have/know,and there are many factors that can determine ones Success in life ranging from dedication,self discipline,intelligence,perseverance and determination e.t.c.So many successful people in life we're not able to finish college,but they became successful afterwards and that's because there's a difference between an intelligent person and an intellectual being,and the difference is visibly clear,its about the creativity and uniqueness that someone possess.
 Academic performance cannot be measured in the real world pertaining to success or achievement and let's all be realistic about the situation.The important is let everybody strive hard in whatever that they do,work hard,and develop themselves in ways that can make them useful and productive to themselves.
The world needs problem solvers,and Its not the one with the degree;its the one with the knowledge and skills that comes first in life.Having the degree might seem and sound very huge but what your creativity,mindset,mentality and intellect carries,can be out of this world.
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If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Having a degree doesn't guarantee people becoming wealthy because it still has factors why they did not make use of their masters degree they don't generate income with it. One reason is that they already have the wealth or this financial freedom, second, lack of self confidence, third, the degree a person achieved is not a personal choice or could be other member of the family's choice that is why they lose interest, fourth, they prefer to work abroad not related to the degree so on and so forth. The only thing we really need especially nowadays is special skills, being smart and motivation. Having professional and vocational skills is no doubt a secret key to being wealthy.
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It is no longer advice to wake up early, study hard, get high grades, graduate from university and you will find a suitable job that is sufficient to pay your expenses. It is advice that you can teach your children, as life has changed. We are no longer in the 1950s, where a university degree was something that guaranteed you a good life. Today’s students are studying. Master's and doctorate degrees to obtain jobs due to high competition. Either you have a specialized degree in a rare field or you have a higher degree such as a doctorate in traditional fields to be able to compete.
Earning money through academic education is a long road and requires a lot of effort and money, but it remains the easiest way if you continue to continue your studies.
Education is important in changing people's lives but the learner must not be limited to books only. Of course, he should also receive practical education. I don't know what the country will get by those who only look for good jobs but if a student gets practical education along with his academic education he can change his life quickly. The student must remember that the education he is receiving should be useful for the welfare of mankind. I am skeptical about the education of graduates who do not get jobs after completing their studies. They may have received an education that is worthless. Although in some poor countries a large part of the educated population leads an unemployed life, if they receive technical education along with academic education, they will surely be able to change their position.
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

Graduating from college is NOT a guarantee you will become wealthy in the future. It takes time and good discipline to be able to obtain true financial independence. Some people never went to college but became rich because of good money management practices. If you spend more than what you earn, you'll stay poor forever. Battling inflation is the key to building wealth. You can achieve that by buying and holding BTC, Gold, and other commodities whose supply is limited.

What a college degree does is demonstrate an employer (or society) that you have knowledge of a particular subject. But how you use that knowledge to make money is up to you. It's all about strategy. Basically, what you've stated in the last paragraph sums it all. Hope this helps. Smiley
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
It's a dog eat dog world out there, you can't expect to find your place as soon as you leave your nest.

The biggest misconception about studying is that after you graduate, you're good to go and success is not a matter of "How" anymore but a matter of "When". The reality is that success is just as hard as it is to achieve before you get your degree, the only difference is now, you have something to show for when people ask you if you've specialized in something, which makes the journey a little bit easier for some. For others, it may not mean scat especially if you graduated on a degree that wouldn't really help you excel in this capitalistic society of hours. I mean, as a company you couldn't expect the Arts Degree Graduate or Philosophy degree graduate to really excel with Data Analytics or Ads Management. That is not their forte and that is not what they could bring to the table. You're better off finding someone whose skills align with the job profile you put out.

That's why while I still commit to suggesting that you pick whichever degree you like in college, you also have to be very prepared to face the world after you graduate, and in that regard be prepared to broaden your skillset to make sure you become even more valuable to acquire for companies. Then, soon as things fall into place for you financially, push for whatever career you're really after. That's the cheat code to today's socio-economic setting. If you remain indignant that it's not your fault your arts degree's not putting food at the table nobody's gonna listen to you.
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Whoever said that to you needs to evaluate their life choices because that's not how real world exists, being a college graduate doesn't guarantee you any money, how? Let's start with what degree we're talking about, there are college degrees that will help you get high paying jobs like an Engineering, Computer Science, Psychology and then there are that would not guarantee that you'll land a high paying job but will definitely be the one that you'll love like an Art Degree, it would be a rough life for you after graduation but if you pursue the arts and become famous through luck and hard work then you're guaranteed wealth so basically, degrees are split into you hate the job but will pay you good kind of degree and you love the job but the pay is bad kind of degree. The reason why I think that there's a lot of poor graduates is the lack of the opportunity I think, there's a lot of people out in the world and there's limited jobs out there, there's no way that we can put everyone out there for the same job and same pay right, another reason is the government not giving what's rightfully to the people and that is a higher pay and a guaranteed salary increase in an annual manner, I think that if these graduates can have that at the least they're not just surviving from their cheques and instead they still got the money to start living.
Everyone basically said the same thing, that's the common sense. I mean if the whole topic says that college degree doesn't guarantee any wealth, that means the question OP asked was a wrong question and not the right one. When you think about that, it becomes a lot easier to handle for everyone.

This is why we should not really care about the rest of the discussion, we all just talk about how the question is wrong and not really try to give any answers at all. We should definitely consider the fact that wealth is not related to how smart or how talented you are at all times, sometimes it's about how brave you are. Some amazing scientist could be much smarter and talented than some random business guy, but business people have more risk taking courage.
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Whoever said that to you needs to evaluate their life choices because that's not how real world exists, being a college graduate doesn't guarantee you any money, how? Let's start with what degree we're talking about, there are college degrees that will help you get high paying jobs like an Engineering, Computer Science, Psychology and then there are that would not guarantee that you'll land a high paying job but will definitely be the one that you'll love like an Art Degree, it would be a rough life for you after graduation but if you pursue the arts and become famous through luck and hard work then you're guaranteed wealth so basically, degrees are split into you hate the job but will pay you good kind of degree and you love the job but the pay is bad kind of degree. The reason why I think that there's a lot of poor graduates is the lack of the opportunity I think, there's a lot of people out in the world and there's limited jobs out there, there's no way that we can put everyone out there for the same job and same pay right, another reason is the government not giving what's rightfully to the people and that is a higher pay and a guaranteed salary increase in an annual manner, I think that if these graduates can have that at the least they're not just surviving from their cheques and instead they still got the money to start living.
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 You've got your answer right there in the beginning of your paragraph and in your title. It's not everyone that goes through the four walls of the university that has the license to make wealth. For me being rich is as a rest of how much work and determination you put in to get your desired goal. There are individuals who don't believe in school but still come out and become something in life; what helped them? Skills and being conscious of the fact that it's up to them to chart a path for themselves.
 In my country, we have so many brilliant graduates who don't have good jobs to start with, not to talk of being rich and these are forced to take on menial tasks just to make ends meet. There are those who failed to arm themselves with a skill or two hoping on the government to give them preferential treatment the moment they leave school but alas they are given a rude awakening or are met with the harsh realities of life.
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We need to understand one thing that graduate degree doesn't automatically qualifies you for job and it's actually skills which makes one qualify for the job and I wouldn't like to share the examples Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg as even though they couldn't complete the education still they being successful but if you look at job post shared by these people for their organisation you will find they prefer graduates and
Good point!
It's not about having a degree or a certain academic achievement, it's about having the necessary skillset in a certain field to make things work for you. A lot of people gain high academic achievements, they do masters and P.hDs and everything possible, but they barely get to a position in life where they can be called wealthy, they might earn a living, and have an above-average life, but they can't consider them wealthy because they might be knowledgeable, but they never did anything extra-ordinary.
Creating wealth is not easy, you can't do things like others and expect to earn more money than them, if it was that simple, the ones who were already doing that thing would have been rich already. It's about uniqueness.
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