Topic: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates? - page 6. (Read 2713 times)

Yes agree with you. Education is not important if the goal is only a diploma. However, education shapes a person's mindset through the knowledge gained and the environment. In essence, school may not be important, because we not only need concepts in learning something, but the application, including support. Because education can be found anywhere, including the environment that can shape a person's character and personality.

However, if we look at the progress of today's times and civilization, school has become a means and opportunity to find work. And most importantly, when studying lessons at school, we are the ones who play an important role in applying the knowledge we gain so that we can apply it in everyday life and get a job according to our abilities. If we fail, it means we can't accept lessons easily and don't want to work hard. Rich or poor depends on each of our intentions and hard work, and having an education will be much better.

In a 1st class country it is possible for a degree to fetch one a good paying job that would be able to sustain his/her needs, but it's quite difficult for graduates that's are in an under developed country to secure good paying jobs that could earn them a living, I think that's why most of the graduates living in such societies are poor or could barely live the life deserving of their certificates.

 Now that's where handwork/skills come in, a graduate with a good skill would not relax when they're unemployed but would rather use the skills they've acquired to earn a living, it's good for post graduates that fall in such societies where there are little or no opportunities to secure a good paying job, to have a back up plan which is (Skill Acquisition) like I said earlier a graduate with a good skill won't sit back and settle for unemployment when they got something that could fetch them an income.

 Well I don't know if the numbers are right, but I bet the 30% who would be able to secure a good job are those who merit them by securing good grades or have good connections to secure a job, but that still doesn't mean the remaining 70% would sit back and settle for unemployment. Sometimes if opportunities doesn't come your way, you create one for yourself and how would they do that by acquiring good skills or learn a trade which in return could make them wealthy. And if they succeed there's a possibility they could end up being employers of other graduates.

I have seen many people who have completed their graduation who are currently unemployed. After completing graduation there are many people who do not find their suitable job which force them to remain unemployed. If we think that a person who graduated means he is rich then we are wrong because not all students who complete graduation can find proper job which makes them either unemployed or tutoring. A student who completes graduation does not choose tutoring as a career as a meritocracy but rather they choose this tutoring as their career under compulsion. Out of the number of students who complete their graduation every year, 20 to 30% students may get job opportunities and the remaining 70% students remain unemployed.

To me I see education as a birth right to every individual because it helps one to be well integrated in the society. education is not only the factor that guarantee wealth, it's just an added advantage to create wealth and succeed in life while wealth is directly proportion to the value you can offer to enhance efficient and smooth running of the society.
There are many factors that drive wealth such as education, character, information, energy to do, passion, perverance, endurance, patience, skills, opportunity and consistency in ideas that will bring positive impact and value to the society.

No one doubts that education is a source of knowledge that must be sought, but education does not guarantee that someone will become richer. Wealth is not obtained naturally because people have to prepare except when their parents inherit it. Education has nothing to do with wealth and poverty, but education is part of the way for someone to build relationships. With good relationships, it will be much easier for us to develop a business so that wealth will be closer to us.

Education is seen only as a step for someone to seek knowledge and education is a foundation for people to seek insight in a particular field. If the relationship between education can make someone richer then there are many people who are not educated who are also successful in becoming rich from the business activities and other things they undertake so this comparison is not relevant.

Education is important and one needs it amongst other things to attain and keep wealth. On my scale of importance, I’ll give education an 80 out of 100. A quality education doesn’t just impact knowledge into you, it reshapes your behavior and could alter one’s way of thinking for the better only if that person is open to learning and ready to change.
But admittedly, completing your colleague education doesn’t necessarily get you wealthy. No sane person would think a college degree would, on its own generate wealth.

there are indeed things that you learn from school that does make positive changes towards the way you life so basically it helps you got at calculating finances so on. the problem with degrees only lies when you or we aren't graduting from STEM degree where it truly thrives after you've done with the university, it could opens up many opportunities for earning big chunk of salary.
the other degree though not so much, except very few of course, but overall many degrees aren't truly worth it to learn i presume since the knowledge can be learnt anywhere else and many time I think the curriculum is outdated so yes it doesn't necessarily guarantees wealth even there are still big chance that we might ended up at minimum wage at some point but at least we can apply for jobs.
maybe someday we might get the position that we wanted and deserve a good salary at some point.
my point here being that there's no wrong in getting that degree, you only lives once and I think thats enough reason I guess.

     Education is important because, honestly, I have not seen anyone who has been successful in life who did not learn anything in school, even if we say that others drop out of school. Today, most of those who have graduated—actually,  not all of them—apply what they learned in school. That's why the rest of them, most of them, still remain poor.

Because there are others who have graduated that combine what they have learned with the strategy that they think of doing for the business that they want to get and do in reality.

There are many ways to think about this, imagine being a tradesman for example - you can do many things with a hammer and a screwdriver, but to be truly successful you need the full load of kit which is specialized for every job. Just having a degree is not enough these days, as younger generations are often funneled through this treadmill to make universities richer but pick up less than useful skills. If thousands of people are learning how to be librarians or archaeologists every year, when there may only be less than a hundred jobs available in the field - it makes it hyper competitive to use that specific degree when you get out of university. Many will be resigned to pursuing something that may be less than their ideal job choice.

First of all, it must be acknowledged that education is very important in life, with education it will make someone able to think more broadly and act well. The problem of rich and poor is a nature that occurs naturally. So how can someone be considered rich? I don't think an educated person will suffer a very bad fate, but at least he will be useful even if he only gets a relatively average job. So I don't agree if people compare something that is irrelevant and education has nothing to do with the fate of being rich or poor.

Having a graduate or higher education does not necessarily guarantee that someone will be richer,, because to achieve wealth nowadays you must have large capital and be supported by adequate skills. Education only provides a way for someone to seek knowledge but does not provide the same opportunity to gain wealth. Marketing management and skills in building relationships are quite important in developing a business because we have to find as many consumers as possible to buy the products we sell.

The long process of developing a business is not easy because people have to rise and fall to achieve success. If someone is inconsistent and not ready to take risks, it will be much more difficult to achieve success in the business world. That's why achieving wealth is not as easy as imagined because there are many processes that people have to go through and of course it is not easy to achieve it.

I don't say that it's meaningless to get a high-quality education. Educated people are very necessary, they improve technology, they invent things and they make our life better. Everyone should definitely study well to become an engineer or doctor. In these fields their education matters very much because uneducated people can't build bridges and hospitals, in this niche it's inevitable to run a business successfully without qualified personnel.

When I say that being a graduate is not a key to being wealthy, I mean that education alone is not enough if you can't promote yourself. Your social skills decide your future too. Do you think HR always chooses the most educated guy when there is a vacancy? If there is a very educated and intellectual man in the room but can't promote himself and sits quietly in the corner, that guy is not going to get recruited. I have also seen many people who lack education but come from rich families or are very sociable and risk takers, which helped them to achieve financially more than what graduated people achieve.

Agree. Graduation is a different matter, it indicates that he has studied. so that graduation can bring you closer to possible success. To be successful you have to go through college, this is also not certain. There are many paths to success, one of which is graduation. In a more global context, the meaning of success itself is too broad, it is not always money, a doctor who chooses to serve in a remote area, lives simply, can benefit other people with his knowledge, this could also be wealth for them in their life journey.

But on the other hand, I also really agree with art/design or programming jobs, because they learn without having formal education or having graduated but can still be self-taught. because currently there are lots of them scattered on YouTube, Udemy, Coursera, etc., especially in the digital era like now. But there are some jobs that I think require at least some appropriate formal education, especially in healthcare or engineering for safety reasons. However, of all things, the most basic thing to achieve success is hard work and not giving up easily.

these judgemental environment just emit negative energy to be honest, these people should be supportive if im being honest, its tough to live these days so much judgement if we don't achieve something meanwhile life is not all always about who's the best and what not.
discrimination in job though about these education requirement is real, sometime some people are judged not adequate if not having diploma or bachelor degree its really painful for those that literally have no money for education and finding a job just become more harder and harder with even tighter requirements.
fortunately though nowadays there are many online degree that we can get by paying nothing at all, therefore it really helps people that are in true need of education.

literally yes, there's a lot of discrimination especially here in our country, no matter how rich you are, if you don't have a diploma to present to other people, they will still say something about you. sometimes even if you have finished your studies but you don't have a good job, they will still judge you. When it comes to the corporate world, you cannot justify your experiences and your knowledge because one of the main requirements they are looking for is a diploma.

No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.

A man can be educated but can not assurance of his employment. In today's world, the number of people has increased tremendously, the number of educated people is not less. The number of graduates is constantly increasing but they are leading an unemployed life after completing their studies. The labor supply is not increasing at the rate at which educated unemployment is increasing. That is, educated people are not getting work due to lack of employment.

Another major reason is that there is a tendency among educated people that they are not willing to work if they cannot provide employment according to their expected level. There is no guarantee that a degree holder will always get a job at his level. But when a person gets this thought fixed in his mind, he can no longer work in other jobs.

To get rid of such a situation a person must undergo vocational education along with academic education. So that he is not unemployed at least. Government will never be able to provide employment to all their population according to demand but if everyone gets vocational education then surely they will not be unemployed.

I have heard from my parents then years ago when they were young, that if they studied well, then the government (it was communism during their time) would choose them, give them a good, high-paying job and they would also be appreciated in the society. They grew up with this mentality, if you want to achieve anything in life, you have to enter university or you'll be a physical labour forever but in reality, things are very different today. No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.

Yes, graduation is proof that you have studied there, but that doesn't mean you have extraordinary skills from that. That's why education and skills are really needed in a field. I have many friends who have graduated but did not have good abilities when they practiced the field they studied. Some people are only good at theory and memorization. However, it's pretty bad at doing its job. However, I believe that the most important thing that can make a person rich is the ability and knowledge he has.

It is true that by providing services or selling products, of course this will be able to get us out of poverty, but we have to have products that are of good quality so that they can easily be sold on the market and for graduates of course they are thinking about their career so they can get their bachelor's degree. What's even better is that those who are busy thinking about their studies of course very rarely think about how to make money and this is very unfortunate when they finish their studies and will have difficulty finding work if they don't have a network to be able to get a job.