Topic: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates? - page 12. (Read 2713 times)

It is not enough to have diploma or degree to survive or be wealthy, what's the use of your degree or diploma if you couldn't even land a job on your chosen profession?
There are other's who are working on different field because of the lack of job opportunity or in order to earn more or survive, sometimes you even need to manage your funds even if you are earning good amount from your job.
Cause no matter how much you earn if you don't know how to manage your money or you are spending more than you are earning then you would always be short or needs to borrow in order to survive.

Being a graduate doesn't guarantee you wealthy, because you need to leave that your comfort zone to search for a good jobs and in the process of searching a job, you maybe luck to see some company that is looking for fresh graduate to employ and you can get the job. I believe in education, and I must give my children a sound education that will make their future more brighter because I have seen many graduates these days who only focus on certificate in school without trying to add a skills to learn entrepreneurship in case you are not getting a job towards your area of field, you can use your entrepreneur skills to create something that will add value to your life. As a graduate you need to work hard before you can become a wealthy man because there are many graduates who are not wealthy till today because they didn't apply sense to their certificate.

we must also remember that those drops out that becomes billionaire like they mentioned are no ordinary drop outs mark if i remember dropping out because he sees potential in his facebook platform when he was still in university and those you mentioned also are dropping out of ivy league, what important from unversity aside from the fact that we might get good degree to work out after graduation is probably the connection, even though it was never stated anywhere but in my opinion im sure the connection they have with their colleague that usually also coming from important background definitely have a big role in their success.
I would never undermine how important to get a degree nowadays, it could literally be the last straw when everything else is not working out.
i'd spend my 3-4 years for getting that degree in a heartbeat just in case if i were to try relive my life again if im being honest.

Education is a very important thing in life because it provides many benefits and helps shape a person's personality, attitudes and thinking abilities. Yes, education does not guarantee 100% of becoming rich, but through education you have made the best investment for the future. People who graduate from universities and those who drop out of school have different ideas in terms of aspects. Most university graduates consider themselves to have above average qualities, they will choose jobs that are considered worthy and appropriate to their field.

While people who drop out of school do not have a diploma and find it difficult to get a decent job, they will try to build their own business because they do not have much consideration in taking steps in their life. People who do not have a diploma achieve a level of success in life because their will is very strong and based on courage in taking the opportunities that are in front of them.
In the end, the life cycle is very different when people who drop out of school become bosses, they can employ university graduates to earn money for them, because graduates are formed in a mindset to look for jobs, not create jobs.

Meh. I believe it is rather a stereotype those who get graduated are guaranteed to have a successful and very rich live, it does not completely depends on education. I can think of at least a handful of people who are dropouts from important colleges and yet, they managed to build literal technology empires which are present to this day. For example, the creator of games and owner of Steam, Gabe Newell dropped out school to start his videogame company called "Valve", they created the first Half Life and then, the videogame platform Steam, he rapidly became rich. If I recall correctly, Bill Gates is also a university Dropout, he decided not to continue with his education and founded Microsoft. In the case of Bill Jobs, I am not even sure he has any kind of high education, as he started the building of Apple as a company from the garage of his parents, in California.

Anyways, a college degree can indeed help to develop a successful career, but sometimes one also needs to have the correct mindset and the inventive to start one's own business. I guess

Yes that's right, simply put a diploma is not the key to success and also "a diploma is just a sign that someone has been to school and not a sign that someone has thought", because as we know that there are many graduates who end up unemployed or unemployed, not because there are no job vacancies but certainly they do not have the skills that are the requirements of most companies, and this causes delays. On the other hand for the problem of success actually anyone can be successful and maybe you have also not rarely heard or seen people who are now successful but have a less good background such as those who only graduated from elementary school.

But on the other hand someone who has a higher education if indeed during their college they really mean it in terms of learning and absorbing a lot of knowledge then they will be slightly superior in terms of knowledge and insight compared to some other people who do not go to school, and this will be able to facilitate their path to success, but on the other hand if basically those who are educated do not have any skills and are lazy then obviously what happens is only a delay because after all success requires unusual hard work.

Getting good education and become a graduate turns an honor that will make you more exposed to different opportunities in life. With that, your real battle in life is still starting. Being a graduate won’t make you instant wealthy, those are only applied to those who are considered heirs from a wealthy family. But if you are raised with an average family, you have to work hard and makes a lot of sacrifices in order to succeed in life. Poor graduates stay poor for the rest of their lives if they will not make some positive changes in their lives. The way they manage their life in a wrong way and not risking at some point will make them poorer in the future.

If we are being literal then gaining the degree will make you poor as the cost of education is greater then putting the equivalent amount of hours into any other job.  The education doesnt make you rich by itself, you are better off with knowledge and some skills but only application of that knowledge can bring a profit over a life time perhaps and theres no guarantee it was ever worth it.  

This is true on a wider view also, the inventors of technology often are not the greatest beneficiaries of even their own work.  Its possible it may take an entire life time to discover and perfect an invention or discovery in science.   To apply that knowledge to industry is where the vast profits can occur, society values the product more then the idea unfortunately though we do try to protect those who invent its still a general truth in business you make the most in the retail and production supply of a great product.  There are alot of difficulties in actual supply and costs to make any product available to society, we actually all benefit from great gifts from people across the ages some of which never lived to see this positive themselves.

This is all true, here in our country it seems normal to get a college school, there are universities that are free and students are made scholars so that they can study, but there are also many private schools that offer courses at a huge amount of tuition per semester. Sometimes, the quality of teaching in expensive universities is not that good, so once a student graduates, when they get a job, they only have a few experiences and capabilities that they can give to a company, that's what happens here in our country, even if you come from a rich school, when it comes to getting a job, the students who come from the public are just equal to you in job offers, sometimes they are the better ones if you look for many things.

Having a diploma does not mean instant success, if you ask me there is a great deal of people that go to college that do not really have the capabilities to be there, however since college education has become like any other business and profits are the most important thing, then those behind it are interested on pushing it to as many people as possible, and if this means giving watered-down education and offering dubious majors then that is exactly what they will do, even if this mean that their students will get a lot of debt and get no marketable skills either.

I don't know where you got the narrative that being a graduate is a key to being wealthy but you should understand that the reasons for acquiring education is not centered on being rich but to gain knowledge so that you can be able to also interact and have quality conversations with other people because if you are not educated you would find it difficult to relate with people.

Being educated or being a graduate doesn't guarantee wealth but at least it will expose you to things you can get involved in and possibly become wealthy in life and being educated also helps to manage one's resources in a case where you are opportuned to have a lot of resources but if you are educated you would find it complex and unable to manage your resources very well.

But at the end of the day we have to be able to differentiate between educated and education because they are two concepts that are actually the same but can be different in terms of meaning .
We will be an educated person when we become an educated person but on the other hand we must also be aware that sometimes people who are educated and graduated sometimes not a few of them are not educated .
We can become educated even without having to get an education level because in the end learning can be done anywhere and with anyone which even if it is felt now it will be much more supportive than we just stand idly by to continue reading theory at school.Although it is indeed a good situation because we get a good education but when we only dwell on theory then we will not get significant progress in this regard.

On the other hand i agree that in the end, wealth will only be obtained if we become an educated person because after all, if our brains are empty and cannot manage wealth properly then no matter how much it is, it will definitely run out .

Define rich and poverty under your context.

Defines middle class, lower middle class, upper middle class.

Social status is not directly linked to a university degree.

In the same way, a university degree is not intrinsically linked to a status of wealth, but rather to a status of comfortable life and vocational principles.

Fortunately this is the case, since there are professionals or professions that require a vocation, which often require those social sacrifices or social status.

Wealth is not everyone's pursuit, it is a status of happiness, which is linked to a social class that allows us access to a good life, then from there each person advances based on their skills, knowledge and profession.

In recent years, a matrix of certain Influencers has begun to be created who sell the idea that spending 4 years in school is a waste of time.  When those 4 years (minimum) mean that an engineer, a doctor, a lawyer, a journalist and etc. are a priority of our social system that surely helps the well-being of everyone, poor, middle class, millionaires, billionaire...

Graduating in school or having a degree isnt a 100% sure that it would be the key to success but its something that recommended for you to have.This is why its a wrong mindset not to finish studies just because
you've seen that there are still undergraduates who do end up on failing their lives or being poor just because they havent get a good job.

Well, it is indeed fact reality that there are really tons of graduates that ended up on having no job. Reasons? High competition, lack of jobs. simply lazy and other possible reasons you could think off.
This is why it would really be that best that you should really be having those realizations that you would really be needing to be wise on looking for one without really that basing or relying with your degree.
You could be able to learn up some online skills on which you could really be to handle yourself on the time that you would be looking for some online job on which the more skills you do have
the higher the chance you could be able to get one.

It is not so much that you become the owner of wealth only after becoming educated.  It is right to study hard but it is wrong to think that you will get a job just by studying.  Even after getting a degree, one has to work hard to succeed.  There is no end to hard work in human life, you have to work forever.  Along with studies, you have to make yourself proficient in any job.  Without skill you cannot survive in this modern world. You have to earn degree by hard work and wealth by skill.

It is the start on how you should deal with life, if you do well in school then that discipline that you have developed there can be applied in your future career. Because that's one of the principles of schools and despite that most of the things there that we learn are basic and the advanced ones are through experiences, it's important that you have to start somewhere and that's through education. At first, it comes from our parents that we should study well so that we can do everything in life after graduation which is okay. It's like a promise that we have to grant to our parents since that's all they're asking. While the others don't grant and ignores that happiness that they might see from their parents and breaks their heart through not finishing it. They are showing it on the way that they know how they can make them proud and that's through their grit and skills that they've developed for which eventually, they're using for making money.

Graduation still is a key to get involved in some specific profession like you won't get a doctors license till you get a degree. A good, technical job may make you lead a well off life but it won't make you wealthy. Jobs are good at making you survive. And as more people look for the safety of graduation, the competition increases making the job market insecure.

Wealth lies in business and investing on right places. A person doing just his job and spending the salary won't be wealthy unless he effectively manages the money.
To be wealthy, he needs to do a side business or good investment from the capital he generates. Crypto is a good and safer place to invest for short and long term future.

The mind of a person is the driving force that expresses the personality of the industrial. It has the capacity to reveal the self. The self is the summary of an individual in the society. Therefore, education should be directed towards the cultivation of the mind that provides the access to the knowledge of the self.
But contemporary educational systems globally has failed to avail individuals the correct knowledge of the self that defines a personality. Rather, university admissions are offered to candidates without recourse to the innate potentialities that makes up the total self.
On the basis of this argument, I would explain three facts that make university graduates necessarily not a wealthy person.;
Firstly; in a capitalist society, wealth distribution among the citizens is unevenly structured. The ruling class has the sole monopoly over the distribution of wealth, even as accommodation to this social class is controlled with strict conditions.
Secondly; not all individuals created by God has the potential to be an employer of labour, at best, most persons could get to the Apex of an establishment at the management cadre, supervisors, HODs, clerks etc.
Thirdly; the current educational system, mostly in the underdeveloped climes, has failed to equip more than two third of its learner's the requisite knowledge of the realities of globalized capitalism and it's antics in respect to wealth acquisitions.
These reasons seldom make most university graduates poor and without wealth.

A degree or diploma only proves that you have attended school or college - it will not guarantee you success. Education is important because it gives us knowledge - but as others have said, it doesn't guarantee success for you.

The mindset may need to change where being an employee does not have to be the main reason they pursue education. Education is needed so that they don't get lost and become misguided - it has to be something that will support them to be creative, build a business and make money with it instead of just being an employee. To be rich you must have knowledge, ability, hard work, and be consistent in what you do – but you are not required to have a degree.

if college graduates have to pay for their college loans that keep growing due to their interest, they will really not be wealthy unless they get lucky employed with high-paying positions. the graduates these days also are unfortunate at this time however because the economy prevents the business from growing.  but this must depend on the kind of degree a graduate has accomplished, if they could just work independently without having to get employed by a company, it's better for them than being unemployed.

education is still necessary. It is a test of character as my grandparents would always say. you startred it, you finish it til you graduate.