Topic: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates? - page 10. (Read 2733 times)

There is different between education and school and what we all went to is school because it's only school that tell you to work hard to become someone in the future and yet not guaranteed.
Education can be from formal way or informal way. You are in this platform for sometimes now and you understand one or two things about bitcoin through this forum, that's how you get educated about something you are ignorant of and not necessarily you have to go to school, I hope you get my point right now. You can get educated in school from your teacher and you can also get educated at home from your parent or guidance and even your friends.

School is designed in a such a way that you read a discipline and then you are offer an opportunity to work in your field but this are 80s and 90s formality of the society. Now, the protocol has been change and you know why? That's because we have thousand and millions of graduates and specialists chasing after 5-10 jobs, we are having more and more qualified graduates of a particular descipline where the society can only provide for few people and this why we have so many poor graduates, going to school doesn't owe you a job though and that's why they advise everyone to get as skill that you can use for husle while waiting for a that big dream job.

Having a college degree guarantees only that you will get a good job after schooling, but when it comes to managing your finances and becoming wealthy, that’s already within your potentials and of course skills in finances that makes you smarter and wiser in managing your business. However, even if you are not a graduate, these things can still be learned and developed if you have the eagerness to learn the process, but it will certainly take time and will definitely test your patience many times before you end up successful in your own business.

Because those graduated students have no skills that they can implement and earn money. I am also a graduate student and have done bachelor's science computer science and what I have learned so far is that until we don't have good skills we can not change our life or we will not see ourselves becoming rich. Learning skills are very important well I am not saying study is not important, but along with study focus on learning some skills that will help you to survive easily in real life. Through these skills you can make money.

If we see some rich people including Bill Gates who did also not get good grades in his studies but his interests made him the world's richest person he used to focus on his coding skills when his friends were playing around him but ignored all of them because he know he has to achieve his goals and today you can see him where he is how much he has earned from his skills. So focus on the skill more and less on study rather you can say study on your skills. That's my point.

So true, and I live in one of those country that still needs a diploma to get a job. I partly regret my decision to take English major and now all I get is quite useless English literature diploma, I took several courses of digital design and I have been working as graphic designer for years now, I have a lot of portfolios but still I cannot get a full-time job here, (I could but I will be paid a lot less that people who have related degree) . I only work as a freelancer and most of my freelance employer is from other countries, so yes having a diploma is still important part of getting a job in here and some other countries, it allows us to join in a certain competition.

Graduating or finishing up your studies is really just that the first step for you to make your move to be a successful person on which we do know that getting a day job nowadays is never been simple.
Competition is high in with those other graduates as well, you arent the only ones who do look for a job on which if we do consider on how many people been graduating in every year plus having those limited slots
when it comes to job vacancies then you would really be able to expect that there would really be overflowing of those people who do find or look for a job. So the competition is really that high
and it would really be that survival of the fittest for you to be chosen or would really be hired.

So it is really that a wrong to have that kind of mindset that finishing up studies would be the end line and you wont really be doing something more.
You are wrong. Sooner or later you would really be able to realize those things along the way and tell to yourself that you should really be making such action for you to be better.

Graduating is not the key to getting rich from my point of view. You will observe around you that there are many rich people who may have not passed the stage of primary education. Again in society, it is also seen that the person who gets the first rank in graduation could not become rich or successful in life, on the other hand, the person who is last in graduation succeeds and becomes very rich. But why is it that you are a graduate or first in graduation, you have a lot of knowledge and yet you are not rich. It stands to reason that to be rich you have to be skilled. That is, whatever path you take to get rich, you must have some basic skills in that path, otherwise it is not possible to get rich. So it is not understood that a high degree is not enough to be rich what can make you rich is skill.

I agree with you, indeed having a bachelor's degree cannot guarantee that we can get a decent job with a large amount of income because in my opinion smart companies are those that prioritize skills not background names or degrees. The same thing with having a diploma, in my opinion it is only a sign that we have studied, the rest after graduating from education we just start a real life, there are some who can indeed work because they have a degree or last name obtained from college, but according to having a job by relying on a degree it is the same if we do not have skills. If I have my own job opportunities, I will recruit people with skills, not degrees. Sometimes people with degrees even have a bad point of view from other people, honestly in my opinion school does not fully teach us how to make money, but teaches the material so that we can be smart, in my environment there are many high schools that guarantee after graduation will get a decent job, but the reality is good, for example from one school there are 100 students and those who work directly after graduation are not all just a small part, if based on intelligence it may be true that everyone will not be smart in the same field, but the certainty that the school provides sometimes becomes a community conflict when their children have graduated from school.

It's true what you said, the main problem in most people is finance, while school does not fully teach about finance, to be able to become rich it depends on ourselves, not depending on the degree we have. In my opinion, having a degree is only our additional surname which indicates that we have studied in college and seems to make us authoritative. But it doesn't guarantee to make us rich, of course to achieve wealth or financial freedom it depends on our hard work, if we don't work hard then it will be difficult to achieve wealth or financial freedom. I agree with you about being stupid enough to remain an employee.

Having a college degree doesn't guarantee you anything. Many people get rich not because they graduated, it is because they are smarter than the others. If you are smart, you will quickly notice that they don't teach us anything about finance during our education. It is you who should show an effort to learn finance. Without knowing finance, you can't start a successful business and starting a good business is pretty much the best way to get rich. Smart business owners know how to evade their taxes legally, they know when to invest and when the liquidate assets. You can't learn any of these from the public education system. Not every student who studied finance is rich too and it is because even if you study finance at the college, they still don't teach you the critical information. They just want you to be smart enough to understand orders and dumb enough to stay an employee.

I think it depends on our school and the course that we get, as I also heard that some students can get a job immediately right after they graduate. This sounds great but unfortunately not all course are supported and maybe the school is not that good enough or their standards are too high. Anyway, the rest works like this > you need to apply for a job first, ensuring that you are qualified for their requirements and then you need to take an exam.

The higher the position the harder the exams will be and most of it can based on our knowledge. So, don't say that skills are only needed. It is, if we are talking something like a business because it's self-service.

It would really be your weapon on making yourself having at least the advantage compared to those who doesnt have the diploma if we do speak on getting those day job that everyone is really that diving into.
We do know that once we do make ourselves graduate then our first priority would really be getting a job and would be buying on the things that we are wishing for. Some might be having those early realizations that they
should really be getting a job and save up for the future. Some could be able to do so and some arent been able to secure out because they arent minding about the future and just making those acts on the time
that they are suffering on some problems.

Having a degree and diploma doesnt guarantee success, it would always be that depending on how well you do make yourself that handle on such condition on which
there are ones who do be able to build their financial status on the moment they have realized that investment and business would be the key
and there are some who cant think off such thing.

Schooling is essential but knowledge is like no other, skills will always lead in everything, with skills you will triumph where others are failing,  it's so good to be educated, but making money is a different thing entirely,  having their degrees doesn't make you a millionaire automatically, you need to do something.

Bill gates and other billionaires are dropouts, they bring something new to the table, that's why you at the time of schooling it's better to be building something for yourself too, something that you have some much passion for, something the world could embrace.

Those who are making it big today are all builders, Elon musk, Mark, Bill and so on, they build something new and proceed from there, working under a company could do you good but there is nothing better than creativity on your own, build something new and hope that the world accepts it, then you are going to be on every billboards in the world.

In my experience, there often exists a gap between the skills companies seek and those possessed by recent graduates. This can contribute to higher unemployment rates, especially in countries with a high graduate supply and fierce competition. Fresh graduates who lack relevant internship experience or job-specific skills can face significant challenges in finding employment.

This validates your earlier point: strong academic performance alone no longer guarantees success in the job market. The ability to identify and seize opportunities, regardless of educational background, is increasingly crucial for achieving career goals and financial stability.

A diploma is legality or proof that we have studied or as proof that we already have knowledge.
It cannot be denied that in some countries, legality is quite necessary to get a job.
To compare people to be rich or poor based on the diploma or education they have completed is not fair, but what needs to be understood is that the percentage of people who get a job is much greater if they have a diploma.
I think that is enough to prove that education/diploma is important.

Education is very very important, but being educated and being graduate are not the same thing. If you studied and know what you are doing then you will definitely be good, that is how it happens and we should consider that as the most important part.

However, it is also important to remember that most people get a job with a diploma, unless it is totally unwanted one you will find a job even if it is not in your field because like that tv show once said you go to school not to learn it all, some people do, but you go there to show your potential employer that you have gone somewhere for 4 years, did tasks semi-ok enough to graduate and can be trusted. So that works for any business that doesn't require a diploma, but prefers one.

definitely this, being a graduate is like the minimum requirements these days simply because there are many people that gained this degree and to have opportunity truly depends on ourselves.
I think the fact that there are people out there that could succeed starting out a business without graduating or with dropping themselves out is definitely admirable but we shouldn't swipe under the rug the fact that
there aren't many of them, the odd of us being one of them is slim, but there's definitely a chance.
but then again some people are just having that good of a connection and access to wealth that whether they get or not getting a degree doesn't matter that much.
i've seen plenty of people with such background, it depends on our own varying condition if we think we might need that advantage of getting into career that only graduates can enter
then I guess its worth to try. otherwise there are plenty ways to success but know that most of them gonna be tough and difficult way to take through.

From my observations, what I can say about this matter is that not everyone at universities are engaged on educating themselves as the should, neither display the kind of professional posture you would expect from graduated individual. Despite these factors, people still manage to finish the university successfuly. That is, they manage to get a degree, although on the next level the real challenge begins, since the jobs market filter the good from the bad professionals.

Then I believe that is where many people fall behind, because even though they have a degree, they lack skills to be accepted on different jobs spots, especially the most demanding ones. To sely have a degree nowadays doesn't mean too much. You need something else, like social skills, vast knowledge on the field you are applying to work, a sharp appearance and formal posture, besides talking correctly, without the usage of slangs.

Maybe the luck factor also play a role after all, but I guess you can raise your chances of being successful by following the hints above.

Education has been on a creeping path to increasing commercialization for a long time. Just like medical services in America try to squeeze every last cent out of people for a basic human right where the burden could be shared much more easily by government invention, higher education is also being targeted. It's why text books can cost hundreds of dollars, requiring the "latest version" each semester even if very little has changed. Any excuse will be found to tack an extra fee on here or there, even if it is gradually undermining the youth of today. It also means that schools and universities will create new, potentially worthless degrees in fields that will tempt in students on the idea that they are easy but create so much competition in one field it can make the outcome worthless.

It's a key but it's not necessarily a guarantee. Said key can be a broken-up into multiple pieces and education only plays a part of it. The real world isn't as simple as a 1 + 1 equation after all where, human relationships, capabilities outside of intelligence, and stuff like that are a factor, not to mention all the competition. You can liken school to a small part of the world (which it is) and there having multiple of them across the globe means having multiple 1st class graduates, so yea, competition is inevitable whether inside or outside.

It wouldn't be instantly better that's for sure, but it's a lot better than being some random bum out there who doesn't know jack. At least, said education can open up a few opportunities for you, especially with the lot of short courses that most people can get nowadays.

Education play a good role in one's success but there are also large number of individuals who have well learned education and skills but they don't have any job yet because of limited jobs opportunities. A person should have both degrees and skills so he can use his active thoughts to do something better in life.

If you have skills and education then you can find a job at any stage during life but if you are not educated then you will spend whole life just to find a good job. With help of education you can find a good job in which your loyalty will increase but without education you will do only a business, or some other private job.

That's where some people seem to get it wrong, they think by having that opportunity of being a graduate that everything will be better in future. I agree with you that everyone doesn't have the same opportunity and it all depends on luck honestly speaking, people always let it get into the their head that after school the next thing is getting a job in a bigger firm and some don't have what it takes like they can't contribute to their place of work.