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     Education is important because, honestly, I have not seen anyone who has been successful in life who did not learn anything in school, even if we say that others drop out of school. Today, most of those who have graduated—actually,  not all of them—apply what they learned in school. That's why the rest of them, most of them, still remain poor.

Because there are others who have graduated that combine what they have learned with the strategy that they think of doing for the business that they want to get and do in reality.
there are indeed things that you learn from school that does make positive changes towards the way you life so basically it helps you got at calculating finances so on. the problem with degrees only lies when you or we aren't graduting from STEM degree where it truly thrives after you've done with the university, it could opens up many opportunities for earning big chunk of salary.
the other degree though not so much, except very few of course, but overall many degrees aren't truly worth it to learn i presume since the knowledge can be learnt anywhere else and many time I think the curriculum is outdated so yes it doesn't necessarily guarantees wealth even there are still big chance that we might ended up at minimum wage at some point but at least we can apply for jobs.
maybe someday we might get the position that we wanted and deserve a good salary at some point.
my point here being that there's no wrong in getting that degree, you only lives once and I think thats enough reason I guess.
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     Education is important because, honestly, I have not seen anyone who has been successful in life who did not learn anything in school, even if we say that others drop out of school. Today, most of those who have graduated—actually,  not all of them—apply what they learned in school. That's why the rest of them, most of them, still remain poor.

Because there are others who have graduated that combine what they have learned with the strategy that they think of doing for the business that they want to get and do in reality.
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

There are many ways to think about this, imagine being a tradesman for example - you can do many things with a hammer and a screwdriver, but to be truly successful you need the full load of kit which is specialized for every job. Just having a degree is not enough these days, as younger generations are often funneled through this treadmill to make universities richer but pick up less than useful skills. If thousands of people are learning how to be librarians or archaeologists every year, when there may only be less than a hundred jobs available in the field - it makes it hyper competitive to use that specific degree when you get out of university. Many will be resigned to pursuing something that may be less than their ideal job choice.
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Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Having a graduate or higher education does not necessarily guarantee that someone will be richer,, because to achieve wealth nowadays you must have large capital and be supported by adequate skills. Education only provides a way for someone to seek knowledge but does not provide the same opportunity to gain wealth. Marketing management and skills in building relationships are quite important in developing a business because we have to find as many consumers as possible to buy the products we sell.

The long process of developing a business is not easy because people have to rise and fall to achieve success. If someone is inconsistent and not ready to take risks, it will be much more difficult to achieve success in the business world. That's why achieving wealth is not as easy as imagined because there are many processes that people have to go through and of course it is not easy to achieve it.
First of all, it must be acknowledged that education is very important in life, with education it will make someone able to think more broadly and act well. The problem of rich and poor is a nature that occurs naturally. So how can someone be considered rich? I don't think an educated person will suffer a very bad fate, but at least he will be useful even if he only gets a relatively average job. So I don't agree if people compare something that is irrelevant and education has nothing to do with the fate of being rich or poor.
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Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Having a graduate or higher education does not necessarily guarantee that someone will be richer,, because to achieve wealth nowadays you must have large capital and be supported by adequate skills. Education only provides a way for someone to seek knowledge but does not provide the same opportunity to gain wealth. Marketing management and skills in building relationships are quite important in developing a business because we have to find as many consumers as possible to buy the products we sell.

The long process of developing a business is not easy because people have to rise and fall to achieve success. If someone is inconsistent and not ready to take risks, it will be much more difficult to achieve success in the business world. That's why achieving wealth is not as easy as imagined because there are many processes that people have to go through and of course it is not easy to achieve it.
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No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.
I don't say that it's meaningless to get a high-quality education. Educated people are very necessary, they improve technology, they invent things and they make our life better. Everyone should definitely study well to become an engineer or doctor. In these fields their education matters very much because uneducated people can't build bridges and hospitals, in this niche it's inevitable to run a business successfully without qualified personnel.

When I say that being a graduate is not a key to being wealthy, I mean that education alone is not enough if you can't promote yourself. Your social skills decide your future too. Do you think HR always chooses the most educated guy when there is a vacancy? If there is a very educated and intellectual man in the room but can't promote himself and sits quietly in the corner, that guy is not going to get recruited. I have also seen many people who lack education but come from rich families or are very sociable and risk takers, which helped them to achieve financially more than what graduated people achieve.
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well, wealth is not based on graduation. In fact, many people are still poor or do not find work after they graduate. What makes people rich is the ability they have and the hard work they put in. No matter how good a person's abilities are, and even how good his graduation is, if he is lazy, he will experience setbacks.
After all, graduation is only the foundation for developing the skills we have, and it is proof that we may be experts in a field. However, what makes everything run smoothly is how capable you are and how hard you work to achieve your goals.
Agree. Graduation is a different matter, it indicates that he has studied. so that graduation can bring you closer to possible success. To be successful you have to go through college, this is also not certain. There are many paths to success, one of which is graduation. In a more global context, the meaning of success itself is too broad, it is not always money, a doctor who chooses to serve in a remote area, lives simply, can benefit other people with his knowledge, this could also be wealth for them in their life journey.

But on the other hand, I also really agree with art/design or programming jobs, because they learn without having formal education or having graduated but can still be self-taught. because currently there are lots of them scattered on YouTube, Udemy, Coursera, etc., especially in the digital era like now. But there are some jobs that I think require at least some appropriate formal education, especially in healthcare or engineering for safety reasons. However, of all things, the most basic thing to achieve success is hard work and not giving up easily.
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literally yes, there's a lot of discrimination especially here in our country, no matter how rich you are, if you don't have a diploma to present to other people, they will still say something about you. sometimes even if you have finished your studies but you don't have a good job, they will still judge you. When it comes to the corporate world, you cannot justify your experiences and your knowledge because one of the main requirements they are looking for is a diploma.
these judgemental environment just emit negative energy to be honest, these people should be supportive if im being honest, its tough to live these days so much judgement if we don't achieve something meanwhile life is not all always about who's the best and what not.
discrimination in job though about these education requirement is real, sometime some people are judged not adequate if not having diploma or bachelor degree its really painful for those that literally have no money for education and finding a job just become more harder and harder with even tighter requirements.
fortunately though nowadays there are many online degree that we can get by paying nothing at all, therefore it really helps people that are in true need of education.
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.

No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.

literally yes, there's a lot of discrimination especially here in our country, no matter how rich you are, if you don't have a diploma to present to other people, they will still say something about you. sometimes even if you have finished your studies but you don't have a good job, they will still judge you. When it comes to the corporate world, you cannot justify your experiences and your knowledge because one of the main requirements they are looking for is a diploma.
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.

No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.
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A man can be educated but can not assurance of his employment. In today's world, the number of people has increased tremendously, the number of educated people is not less. The number of graduates is constantly increasing but they are leading an unemployed life after completing their studies. The labor supply is not increasing at the rate at which educated unemployment is increasing. That is, educated people are not getting work due to lack of employment.

Another major reason is that there is a tendency among educated people that they are not willing to work if they cannot provide employment according to their expected level. There is no guarantee that a degree holder will always get a job at his level. But when a person gets this thought fixed in his mind, he can no longer work in other jobs.

To get rid of such a situation a person must undergo vocational education along with academic education. So that he is not unemployed at least. Government will never be able to provide employment to all their population according to demand but if everyone gets vocational education then surely they will not be unemployed.
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
I have heard from my parents then years ago when they were young, that if they studied well, then the government (it was communism during their time) would choose them, give them a good, high-paying job and they would also be appreciated in the society. They grew up with this mentality, if you want to achieve anything in life, you have to enter university or you'll be a physical labour forever but in reality, things are very different today. No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.
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Education is important, and it is just one of the achievements that people also need. Because this is one of the sources of knowledge that we can use in the future. Actually, the topic of education is very broad, because this is where our knowledge and strategy on how to survive in life begin. The more we know, the better. It is difficult that we only know so little.

Now why are there still more poor people, even though most of them have completed their education or have a diploma? That's because they don't use the things they learned in their studies. Even though Mark Zuckerburg dropped out, they were still successful in life, and what they learned while he was studying cannot be unrelated to the success he has now in his life. He became even smarter because he saw that his business would grow even more if he hired smart graduates for his company. Because he knows what is brought about by a person with knowledge or intelligence who has graduated.
Yes, graduation is proof that you have studied there, but that doesn't mean you have extraordinary skills from that. That's why education and skills are really needed in a field. I have many friends who have graduated but did not have good abilities when they practiced the field they studied. Some people are only good at theory and memorization. However, it's pretty bad at doing its job. However, I believe that the most important thing that can make a person rich is the ability and knowledge he has.
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To be a graduate is not a guarantee for you to become a rich person, the only thing is that a a graduate have a be possible ways to solve a problem to also plan very well in order to elevate itself from getting poverty or being poor for life why someone who is not a graduate will not have the kind of idea someone who is a graduate how for a order to Plan a better way for its life, one thing I want us to understand is that this life is all about planning and also a God wish to us to be rich is based on your strategies, understand the dimensions of life and the application of life before you become a successful person

The only way to break out of poverty cycle is to provide a service or sell a product. School does not teach one how to become rich. Scholars aren’t particularly concerned about making money for themselves, they live for the passion of their chosen profession. Most times, students are so busy with their studies that they forget to socialize and build relationship with other students on campus. I think building a strong network in university helps a lot when you’re in the labour market and you need jobs or contracts.
It is true that by providing services or selling products, of course this will be able to get us out of poverty, but we have to have products that are of good quality so that they can easily be sold on the market and for graduates of course they are thinking about their career so they can get their bachelor's degree. What's even better is that those who are busy thinking about their studies of course very rarely think about how to make money and this is very unfortunate when they finish their studies and will have difficulty finding work if they don't have a network to be able to get a job.
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Agreed with @Princess Leah, we have to ubderstand that Education or graduation does not make your wealth. Only certificate can't give you success, there must be full dedication to achieve something in life. Without this dedication no one can makes money in their life. We must be focused in our life so that we can do what we actually want to do in our life. If graduates people are not focused dedicated in their work-life then they must be poor. 3 thngs we need to make something happen speciall in our life skill, hardwork, and luck.
Also with certificates, they're the same with diplomas. But what's good with having these is that you've got the way to start and have some credentials.

Although it is not the ideal thing for most employers as they have their way of picking up good employees based on their criteria. And about being successful, let's not invalidate the feelings of the people that have graduated. Studying also takes time and having to finish college is already part of their first success.

So if it's about success, you determine that with your own basis as they will determine theirs too and if it's about wealthy, it's a different thing. This is how we define each other's grit and how we cope with our strategies on our way to riches and becoming wealthy.
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To be a graduate is not a guarantee for you to become a rich person, the only thing is that a a graduate have a be possible ways to solve a problem to also plan very well in order to elevate itself from getting poverty or being poor for life why someone who is not a graduate will not have the kind of idea someone who is a graduate how for a order to Plan a better way for its life, one thing I want us to understand is that this life is all about planning and also a God wish to us to be rich is based on your strategies, understand the dimensions of life and the application of life before you become a successful person

The only way to break out of poverty cycle is to provide a service or sell a product. School does not teach one how to become rich. Scholars aren’t particularly concerned about making money for themselves, they live for the passion of their chosen profession. Most times, students are so busy with their studies that they forget to socialize and build relationship with other students on campus. I think building a strong network in university helps a lot when you’re in the labour market and you need jobs or contracts.
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Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating.
Education gives you an advantage and makes you more likely to be rich and wealthy. There are poor graduates for many reasons like,
the system failing them, that is after school there was no good job available for them, some of them were not serious in school and because of their poor grades made themselves not eligible for good jobs. There are some poor graduates because education does not remove automatically financial indiscipline. Some graduates are poor because they have failed to keep money to build wealth when they had it.

Agreed with @Princess Leah, we have to ubderstand that Education or graduation does not make your wealth. Only certificate can't give you success, there must be full dedication to achieve something in life. Without this dedication no one can makes money in their life. We must be focused in our life so that we can do what we actually want to do in our life. If graduates people are not focused dedicated in their work-life then they must be poor. 3 thngs we need to make something happen speciall in our life skill, hardwork, and luck.
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Not all graduates have the gained skills during their schools, so they are sometimes struggling how to market themselves, and to those graduates people still it depend not everyone has the same opportunity that's why the school are preparing us with the reality, once you graduate, and face the outside world you can now see how struggle it is this is how people getting strive to survive with their daily basis. If you have the knowledge, skills, and network its easy to you to make a good communication to market and make your own strategy to get out with the social status you have and reach to become a successful once.
It is true that not everyone who completes education can have skills according to their field of school and also those who have good grades at school may not necessarily be able to get a job after completing their education, so the theory they understand at school is not a benchmark that they will be able to have a job according to. their field, in order to survive it is important for us to be able to have skills that can give us income and look for relationships that can give us information to have a job because if we don't do anything then it is very unlikely that other people will offer us work.
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First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.
Educational certificate only increases our social and status Education certificate can never give us any good job.  Because you must have good skills to do good work  Without skill you can't do anything well. Because where you will work, they will take work from you in exchange of money, they will not pay you after seeing your certificate. So to do something good in life you must have skills.  Without skill you can do nothing.

A degree only shows that you have completed training in a subject. It's just a kind of entry ticket or door opener. Whether your degree was worthwhile in the end depends on whether you can apply what you have learned and add value to the company. Only then will a degree be worthwhile. I know some people who put a lot of effort into their studies, got a degree and then took it easy on the job. They were then fired and are now keeping their heads above water with freelance jobs. For them, studying wasn't worth it financially. If they had brought more of what they had learned into the company, they would be in a better position now.
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Education is important, and it is just one of the achievements that people also need. Because this is one of the sources of knowledge that we can use in the future. Actually, the topic of education is very broad, because this is where our knowledge and strategy on how to survive in life begin. The more we know, the better. It is difficult that we only know so little.

Now why are there still more poor people, even though most of them have completed their education or have a diploma? That's because they don't use the things they learned in their studies. Even though Mark Zuckerburg dropped out, they were still successful in life, and what they learned while he was studying cannot be unrelated to the success he has now in his life. He became even smarter because he saw that his business would grow even more if he hired smart graduates for his company. Because he knows what is brought about by a person with knowledge or intelligence who has graduated.
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