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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 14, 2019, 06:19:14 PM

Of course, I will remember the losses and calculate them. I think we cannot say it is a big win if there are still more losses. Even though, it cannot return the money we spent for months. So, how can he feels very ecstatic about the winning? Grin

Depends on how you look at a big win, for others increasing their starting bankroll by 2x-5x would be a big win.

I agree he won't recover all of what he spent but winning a lot of money for once will always give you that positive feeling because it doesn't happen to most gamblers only a few get the chance to win big.

And if I really win big, as in big that I don't have to work anymore and just retire with my winnings, I will forget my losses and move on with my life. And I will leave my gambling habits also, change lifestyle as I already have the money to live a lifetime and grow that money not in gambling anymore. Look for a better option of investments. We don't have assurances in gambling so look for a better one this time.

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Quote from: maydna on September 13, 2019, 09:38:28 PM

no one will forget what they lost in the past and will make the lost as a motivation to get better in the future. But if that is happening in gambling, I think some people can forget their losses even if they lose big, especially if they can win big money in gambling. They will be easy to forget the lose because now they can have more money again from gambling.

That will happen too with other people if they can win big or hit the jackpot because they will celebrate it if the money is already they got. The losing money will be our part of our life so it cannot be forgotten in the rest of our life. But we need to try to forget the losses and learn from the losses so we can prevent more losses in the future.

I think we all know the importance of letting go but there is just this impossibility of letting go even when we understand the necessity. The truth be said, it hurts to lose, it pains to let go and winning money is never enough to heal this memory but like they say, time heals all wounds.

So for me, even when I win, I always have that record of what I have lost stuck in my memory. This might not help me to recover or even help me win, but it always stays as a reminder that something is gone out of me that would have been used for better things and even after I win, I just feel like what I got in return is not enough to compensate for the loss.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 14, 2019, 06:19:14 PM

Of course, I will remember the losses and calculate them. I think we cannot say it is a big win if there are still more losses. Even though, it cannot return the money we spent for months. So, how can he feels very ecstatic about the winning? Grin

Depends on how you look at a big win, for others increasing their starting bankroll by 2x-5x would be a big win.

I agree he won't recover all of what he spent but winning a lot of money for once will always give you that positive feeling because it doesn't happen to most gamblers only a few get the chance to win big.

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Quote from: maydna on September 08, 2019, 10:56:56 PM

we don't need to remember our loss, but it is better if we can know how much our loss so we can prevent to get more losses in the future. Besides that, we can know that playing gambling will only give us losses because we don't know when we can win the games. When gamblers can win some money, they will forget that in the past, they are losing so much money before they can win. And if they can realize that, perhaps they will think twice to continue playing gambling and risk more money in gambling.

Or if they want to play gambling, they can play with small money, and if they can win again in those games, they will consider that is because of luck, and they need to leave the places.

I personally think, there’s no amount of money we will that should make us forget the past loses no matter how small it may be. Those loses puts us in check towards the next games ahead and also we appreciate the game the more.

Although there are some very big win, that once the alert hits the phone, it will automatically erase all the loses ever experienced in gambling lol, I will be glad if I can hit this kind of jackpot so I that I can have the feelings of forgetting my loses. But for now forgetting the loses I have encountered in gambling is one thing I consider impossible for the rest of my life, most times I win, I would first of all remember what I have lost and then realized, I haven’t really made much.

Losses are only remembered till the time we have recovered those losses or we have believe that lost is not recoverable so we forget it and move on. If we win big, in which our previous losses are recovered, there is nothing more good than this. If this happen i will surely forget about my losses and start again with all my money back in my money bank.
However we should always remember root cause and learn from our losses, so that we won't repeat the same mistake again which caused those losses.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 14, 2019, 06:19:14 PM

Of course, I will remember the losses and calculate them. I think we cannot say it is a big win if there are still more losses. Even though, it cannot return the money we spent for months. So, how can he feels very ecstatic about the winning? Grin

But I don't think if your win will bigger than your losses because if he calculated, I think you need more win to cover your losses. That will make sense if the gambler finally wants to continue to playing gambling because they want to get another winning plus they want to cover the losses.

I am sure no matter who he is, pro gambler or new gambler if they can get the win, they will be very happy. No matter how much the money he can win, he will feel that the moment will be the greatest moment in his life. He will never forget that moment for the rest of his life.

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Of course, I will remember the losses and calculate them. I think we cannot say it is a big win if there are still more losses. Even though, it cannot return the money we spent for months. So, how can he feels very ecstatic about the winning? Grin

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It depends how big the win is.If you just win an accumulator like a ticket with 10 games and you win for example 0.5 to 1 Bitcoin it is surely a big win but it is not enough to forget my lost money because I have lost a whole more money by gambling.This is a great consolation prize as I can start to recover with that but I cannot easily forget my lost money.

Ticket wins aren't memorable although it's still giving that feeling of relief that you have won.

And winning such amount from the example that you have given will be remembered though but the point is when you have won that much, you will also calculate your losses and extract on how much you've won or break even with that winning.

Yeah "amount" that will remind you of the profit or losses you get. the greater the loss you get, the more you will remember the loss.
even I still remember the sad loss I felt a few years ago, because of the big of the loss that I suffered.

How much that lost you've made? there were amounts that we hardly forget because it's already on our minds.

But when something big comes in, you will have to remember both of them. Sometimes, those big losses can be forgotten for a while but at random times you will remember them all of the sudden.

You cant really able to forget into those things which you had been experienced in the past specially if that one made or do make feel you the worst or stressful.

You will eventually think off it automatically and it cant really be avoided but there were gamblers that doesn't care too much on whats in the past and the past and they are
trying to move on and enjoy on whats being currently been experiencing.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 12, 2019, 06:31:10 AM

It depends how big the win is.If you just win an accumulator like a ticket with 10 games and you win for example 0.5 to 1 Bitcoin it is surely a big win but it is not enough to forget my lost money because I have lost a whole more money by gambling.This is a great consolation prize as I can start to recover with that but I cannot easily forget my lost money.

Ticket wins aren't memorable although it's still giving that feeling of relief that you have won.

And winning such amount from the example that you have given will be remembered though but the point is when you have won that much, you will also calculate your losses and extract on how much you've won or break even with that winning.

Yeah "amount" that will remind you of the profit or losses you get. the greater the loss you get, the more you will remember the loss.
even I still remember the sad loss I felt a few years ago, because of the big of the loss that I suffered.

How much that lost you've made? there were amounts that we hardly forget because it's already on our minds.

But when something big comes in, you will have to remember both of them. Sometimes, those big losses can be forgotten for a while but at random times you will remember them all of the sudden.

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Quote from: Ailmand on September 14, 2019, 12:06:33 AM

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I have a friend who wins 15,000 pesos or $300 the first time keno games in an offline betting outlet, he is so happy and very ecstatic about his winnings, I congratulate him and ask him how long before he hit the jackpot, he told me that it took him 7 months and he is betting daily at 100 pesos or $3 so his losses are bigger than winnings.

But surprisingly he did not calculate his losses all he cares about is he finally wins, how about you do you remember your losses when you win a big amount and do you calculate your losses and ask if the winning is worth it?

Most gamblers have the same mentality. No gambler records or even takes note or make a journal of their daily winning and losses to keep track of their winning or losses. For gamblers, winning is everything no matter how much money you have lost before, I guess that would not matter as long as you are winning or you had hit a jackpot.

Each has its own threshold of loss, which is considered to be insignificant. And if I play to this amount, I don’t remember this event at all. Having lost this amount, I consider it as a payment for entertainment.

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Quote from: coin-investor on September 07, 2019, 11:30:05 AM

how about you do you remember your losses when you win a big amount and do you calculate your losses and ask if the winning is worth it?

I don't usually keep tabs on losses and wins while playing casino games. I used to earlier but that often led to keep up gambling more trying to build up better stats ....and gambling in long run you know which way it goes so it never worked out for me and I made it out of habit now.

Nowadays I just keep some parlay bets from sports book which I won beating some good odds.

I think you should start learning to do that. I was once like you, never paying attention to my loses or keeping records until the day I noticed the money I had kept for something very important was all gone and the only place it could be traced to was gambling. I felt very hurt and I mean really hurt because if I was keeping records I would have known earlier that I have exceeded my limit.

I later won big after my loses anyway but forgetting the losses made wasn’t something so easy to do. I think we would eventually forget at the end but it might take long, not necessarily after winning but after healing from the loss experience.

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Although this does not apply to all gambling games. I think it would be boring if someone wins and he simply keeps it to himself because if his friends know they would probably ask for a few bottles of beer. Sometimes a win, especially if big, calls out for a little celebration and it would be awkward to ask your friends to chip in because as far as your computation is concerned your total loss is still bigger than your win. LOL.

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Quote from: coin-investor on September 07, 2019, 11:30:05 AM

I have a friend who wins 15,000 pesos or $300 the first time keno games in an offline betting outlet, he is so happy and very ecstatic about his winnings, I congratulate him and ask him how long before he hit the jackpot, he told me that it took him 7 months and he is betting daily at 100 pesos or $3 so his losses are bigger than winnings.

But surprisingly he did not calculate his losses all he cares about is he finally wins, how about you do you remember your losses when you win a big amount and do you calculate your losses and ask if the winning is worth it?

Most gamblers have the same mentality. No gambler records or even takes note or make a journal of their daily winning and losses to keep track of their winning or losses. For gamblers, winning is everything no matter how much money you have lost before, I guess that would not matter as long as you are winning or you had hit a jackpot.

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Quote from: maydna on September 08, 2019, 10:56:56 PM

we don't need to remember our loss, but it is better if we can know how much our loss so we can prevent to get more losses in the future. Besides that, we can know that playing gambling will only give us losses because we don't know when we can win the games. When gamblers can win some money, they will forget that in the past, they are losing so much money before they can win. And if they can realize that, perhaps they will think twice to continue playing gambling and risk more money in gambling.

Or if they want to play gambling, they can play with small money, and if they can win again in those games, they will consider that is because of luck, and they need to leave the places.

I personally think, there’s no amount of money we will that should make us forget the past loses no matter how small it may be. Those loses puts us in check towards the next games ahead and also we appreciate the game the more.

Although there are some very big win, that once the alert hits the phone, it will automatically erase all the loses ever experienced in gambling lol, I will be glad if I can hit this kind of jackpot so I that I can have the feelings of forgetting my loses. But for now forgetting the loses I have encountered in gambling is one thing I consider impossible for the rest of my life, most times I win, I would first of all remember what I have lost and then realized, I haven’t really made much.

Yes, no one will forget what they lost in the past and will make the lost as a motivation to get better in the future. But if that is happening in gambling, I think some people can forget their losses even if they lose big, especially if they can win big money in gambling. They will be easy to forget the lose because now they can have more money again from gambling.

That will happen too with other people if they can win big or hit the jackpot because they will celebrate it if the money is already they got. The losing money will be our part of our life so it cannot be forgotten in the rest of our life. But we need to try to forget the losses and learn from the losses so we can prevent more losses in the future.

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Well, ofcourse, I would be happy like shit. Not to mention if that pot money was able to fill my losses then I'd rather make a savings out of it then play again. That's would I do if I were on that position.

And besides, computing my losses is part of my habit for I have a limit (actually on money for I'm not a rich guy). So when I win, I definitely make sure to compute it and if it doesn't fill all of it, it fine. I'll make a turn again. (maybe until I lost it all, LoL)

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Quote from: coin-investor on September 07, 2019, 11:30:05 AM

I have a friend who wins 15,000 pesos or $300 the first time keno games in an offline betting outlet, he is so happy and very ecstatic about his winnings, I congratulate him and ask him how long before he hit the jackpot, he told me that it took him 7 months and he is betting daily at 100 pesos or $3 so his losses are bigger than winnings.

But surprisingly he did not calculate his losses all he cares about is he finally wins, how about you do you remember your losses when you win a big amount and do you calculate your losses and ask if the winning is worth it?

Your friend was probably happy because he was able to partially win back his losses. If you keep on losing and then win all of a sudden, it is quite normal to be very happy even though if you loss is higher than your total profit. I don't see anything wrong over here. You friend is actually doing a good thing. Instead of regretting and chasing his loss, he decided to start over again probably.

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A few years ago, I lost a lot of money in the dice. I tried to play by Martingale's strategy with a minimum bet and saw good results. But when I increased the initial bet I got 8 times in a row "no". My money was just not enough for the next bet.

After that, I don't gamble very often, but if I do, then before the game, I determine exactly how much I can afford to lose.

I am surprised that someone still uses martingale, I thought it has been mentioned here many times that the strategy is doom or you never knew? So what led you to trying it. Well this is not the time to put blames. I am sorry about your loss and I believe you must have recovered since it’s been years now. ONE more thing, I think that I noticed from your post that you have already prepared to lose a game even before you play it, I think this is a very wrong mentality, and I hope you work on changing this mentality because its possibly the reason behind your loses and martingale cannot be blamed so much for this.

Back to the post, I don’t see any reason to remember my loss if I win big, We only remember loses when we keep on losing.

It was from that moment onwards that I concluded that there was no need to play by Martingeyl's strategy anymore. Though it was a dear experience for me, I do not regret it at all. As one of my comrades says: "bad experience is also experience" and I fully agree with this statement. There are people who get experience for free, but I had to pay for it.

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I have a friend who wins 15,000 pesos or $300 the first time keno games in an offline betting outlet, he is so happy and very ecstatic about his winnings, I congratulate him and ask him how long before he hit the jackpot, he told me that it took him 7 months and he is betting daily at 100 pesos or $3 so his losses are bigger than winnings.

But surprisingly he did not calculate his losses all he cares about is he finally wins, how about you do you remember your losses when you win a big amount and do you calculate your losses and ask if the winning is worth it?

For lots of people gambling is a hobby, if he’s having fun & gambling with only $3 usually then maybe he doesn’t mind losing. It’s only like going out with friends & drinking beer. If he’s having fun then cool. Obviously when he wins $300 he forgets all those little losses even if he’s still down.

As long as he’s not getting himself into financial trouble then let him get on with it

Yeah and why would a winner thinks of The losses when that specific time is for celebration lol

In gambling we already knew that it’s more of losing then winning so if you still play means you already accepted the reality of small chance of winning .

If that so when we got a win and specially with that amount in which good money,we intend to be happy and forget everything just for a day or so

And that one time winning is the trigger for your more gambling activities.There are people or gamblers who do think of their losses when they do win because they come for profit and every win will be deducted by the loss and where he can presume that if he already break even or profit on the said win or still on the negative side.Some might not care but people will think normally into their losses in the past but same as you said on my part I don't mind too much because I already accepted on what would be my fate with gambling since I do play for fun part not really on making money since its just a bonus for me but I'm pretty sure that I'm still on the negative side.

Exactly ,when we gamble the fact that most of the time we already accept before playing that losses will be on us so accepting this are already cause for not computing our losses
Anyway when we are newbie in gambling we tend to think something like this but not on the long time specially when maturity in betting is on ours
We always accept defeat and winning is purely celebratory and no time for bad reminiscing

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Quote from: maydna on September 08, 2019, 10:56:56 PM

we don't need to remember our loss, but it is better if we can know how much our loss so we can prevent to get more losses in the future. Besides that, we can know that playing gambling will only give us losses because we don't know when we can win the games. When gamblers can win some money, they will forget that in the past, they are losing so much money before they can win. And if they can realize that, perhaps they will think twice to continue playing gambling and risk more money in gambling.

Or if they want to play gambling, they can play with small money, and if they can win again in those games, they will consider that is because of luck, and they need to leave the places.

I personally think, there’s no amount of money we will that should make us forget the past loses no matter how small it may be. Those loses puts us in check towards the next games ahead and also we appreciate the game the more.

Although there are some very big win, that once the alert hits the phone, it will automatically erase all the loses ever experienced in gambling lol, I will be glad if I can hit this kind of jackpot so I that I can have the feelings of forgetting my loses. But for now forgetting the loses I have encountered in gambling is one thing I consider impossible for the rest of my life, most times I win, I would first of all remember what I have lost and then realized, I haven’t really made much.

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Quote from: coin-investor on September 07, 2019, 11:30:05 AM

I have a friend who wins 15,000 pesos or $300 the first time keno games in an offline betting outlet, he is so happy and very ecstatic about his winnings, I congratulate him and ask him how long before he hit the jackpot, he told me that it took him 7 months and he is betting daily at 100 pesos or $3 so his losses are bigger than winnings.

But surprisingly he did not calculate his losses all he cares about is he finally wins, how about you do you remember your losses when you win a big amount and do you calculate your losses and ask if the winning is worth it?

As I can see to your friends, He was so happy when He found out that he won that amount of money, and didn't notice the total losses He made during the time that your friend patiently doing it. So, if he took it 7 months it means 100 x 7= 21, 000 Pesos were in the end he still got loss of 7, 000 pesos.

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Quote from: Ewox on September 13, 2019, 04:24:06 AM

Depends really on what kind of a gambler you are and how much you gamble in a day. But mostly, they don’t count on the losses because it’ll be a big headache for them to have loss such amount. That’s why when they finally win out of the many losses they had; they couldn’t think of the amount of loss but instead think of the winnings.

You are correct there, it will only hurt us if we keep counting our loses, we are not here for business where we need to track our expenses and income.
Usually we easily let go of our loses so it will give us a room to enjoy the next time we gamble, and usually we save money for gambling and that money is the amount that we can afford to lose, that's how we prepared for it.

What is also important here is to only gamble occasionally, not all the time.

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