not sure if blatantly lying about bucks masternode exploit fix is scam or not. but that def happened.
lying seems the most common dodgy behaviour by coin devs.
lying about coming services/features - roadmaps, continued support/development
lying about their own intent - long term commitment
lying about the code - heheh the dev hopping on after dumping 10x the total coin count and saying "we're working with bittrex to see what we can do" (not igotspots)
lying is the basic tool of a scam. no idea what else he might have lied about, but i'd call the evident lie a swindle at least.
Topic: iGotSpots Scam Dev - page 15. (Read 39677 times)
Scammer:
noun
1.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
verb (used with object), scammed, scamming.
2.
to cheat or defraud with a scam.
3. See IGotSpots*
Nothing he is doing with his latest coin is any different than exactly what he has done in the past.
It will end exactly the same way. He will cash in his gigantic stash, abandon it, blame everyone else for its failure and then start his next premined copy shitcoin
noun
1.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.
verb (used with object), scammed, scamming.
2.
to cheat or defraud with a scam.
3. See IGotSpots*
Nothing he is doing with his latest coin is any different than exactly what he has done in the past.
It will end exactly the same way. He will cash in his gigantic stash, abandon it, blame everyone else for its failure and then start his next premined copy shitcoin
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[2015-08-06 13:34:40] iGotSpots: its ok, one day youll learn how coins work and this will alllll make sense
We now know that how coins work:
A scam developer like Spots creates a new coin and makes lots of empty promises, rigs the system, cashes in, and then leaves the loyal
true I may have missed a lot on this topic etc
just saying what I heard sounds like what 100's of guys are doing in crypto.. IGotSpots actions are not unique (generally speaking)
and scam the definition is pretty straight forward.
shady behavior or immoral is not a scam.
I'd like to hear the proof if it exists.. I didn't post here to comment for or against the guy.
like I said I just didn't see the smoking gun of "scam"
I have a looong history with the guy but I'd like to let it drop.. we have enough drama in crypto LOL
but if anyone is guilty of a scam then by all means expose them.
basically I think a lot of controversies in crypto with dev's boil down to intent
which is hard to prove usually..
just saying what I heard sounds like what 100's of guys are doing in crypto.. IGotSpots actions are not unique (generally speaking)
and scam the definition is pretty straight forward.
shady behavior or immoral is not a scam.
I'd like to hear the proof if it exists.. I didn't post here to comment for or against the guy.
like I said I just didn't see the smoking gun of "scam"
I have a looong history with the guy but I'd like to let it drop.. we have enough drama in crypto LOL
but if anyone is guilty of a scam then by all means expose them.
basically I think a lot of controversies in crypto with dev's boil down to intent
which is hard to prove usually..
well i guess that depends on your definition of a scam...
did spots 'promise' staking contracts then cancel them citing the fine print? yes
is that a scam? no
is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes.
did spots launch a bunch of coins? yes
did these coins all fail? yes
did these coins all get swapped to a coin with different parameters that changed the economic? yes
is that adarkcoin scam? no
is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes
i think spoetnik the problem you are facing is this is not so much as the pirate scam as much as a day to day scam paying someones wages.
new definition of scam = majority of the sheeple/'users' end up fucked in the end. yes. and very much so. spots is no dummy and nor would you find anyone to say otherwise. his ambulance chasing has raised the bar for what pieces of shit can get away with on these forums and to not call these fucks out is just as bad as turning a blind eye to pirate type schemes. staying 'neutral' in such matters only diminishes what respect I had for you.
did spots 'promise' staking contracts then cancel them citing the fine print? yes
is that a scam? no
is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes.
did spots launch a bunch of coins? yes
did these coins all fail? yes
did these coins all get swapped to a coin with different parameters that changed the economic? yes
is that a
is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes
i think spoetnik the problem you are facing is this is not so much as the pirate scam as much as a day to day scam paying someones wages.
new definition of scam = majority of the sheeple/'users' end up fucked in the end. yes. and very much so. spots is no dummy and nor would you find anyone to say otherwise. his ambulance chasing has raised the bar for what pieces of shit can get away with on these forums and to not call these fucks out is just as bad as turning a blind eye to pirate type schemes. staying 'neutral' in such matters only diminishes what respect I had for you.
You forgot to mention that there was a major vulnerability in Bucks and Spots ignored it, called it FUD, said it was fixed when it wasn't, and then lied about saying it was fixed in order to try to cover it up.
@Spoetnik
This is probably the most definitive piece of evidence in the thread, plus you missed all of Spots posts he deleted from this thread (everything that was not quoted).
I'm still not sure why you guys are mad at me when the multipool had the price to nearly 10k within three days of being launched (yes, quadrupled the price in under a week) before Ricky, RoboRob, and vegasguy started using modified wallets to dump on you lol we were moving it in the right direction; the people FUDing me are the ones who dumped on you and now are talking shit because they made their money already, not me. I'll eat losses all day, I could not possibly care less 
How come you said the exploit was fixed when it wasn't?
Also, the root of why people are FUDing is not discussing peoples criticisms without attacking people. Maybe you don't like what someone is saying but to post peoples PM's just to try to tear them down when you made them angry in the first place sets a bad precedent. If you make enough people angry then they will find a way to tear you down too, this is what lead us here.
I made no comments about it at all, quit putting words into my mouth. I still don't care what the issue even is/was, I'm writing these coins off as a loss instead of dumping on people
You discussed it on the C-Cex chat box about 3 weeks ago, you said you fixed the rumored exploit in an update that did not require a hardfork. I asked you about the exploit, what it was and how it was fixed and you said that you could not tell me because it could be used against other Coins. I just assumed you were talking shit because had you actually fixed a time exploit then it would require a hardfork and you don't care about other Coins as you've threatened to destroy many Coins (Like HYP or attacking the TEETH spinoff).
So my question once again, why did you tell everyone the exploit was fixed or didn't exist when it wasn't?
Edit: If you are going to post your PM's that VegasGuy sent you then why not also post your replies since you are skewing perception to only be in your favor.
Ok, seeing you are such a fan of posting conversations...
Orly, no comment about it at all you say?
[2015-07-22 06:07:47] iGotSpots: @Crestington, that vulnerability was closed in bucks, but since they found it i assume its usable in other coins such as crave
[2015-07-22 06:08:02] iGotSpots: i did not know about it until they posted it though and it is a big deal, but its fixed for bucks now
[2015-07-22 06:08:40] iGotSpots: it did not require a new client for the fix, either
[2015-07-22 06:08:51] Crestington: @iGotSpots, what was the exact vulnerability?
[2015-07-22 06:09:23] iGotSpots: like im going to say that in a chatbox lol
Then a week or two later when I first discovered I could no longer stake GorillaBucks I tried to ask you about it. This is where our recent relationship began:
[2015-08-06 13:25:41] Fallout: Hey Spots
[2015-08-06 13:26:37] iGotSpots: yo
[2015-08-06 13:26:49] Fallout: Care to explain this: http://bucks.blockexplorer.cc/address/BRs3e2APRxhjsCjdRSujVHNtb2krBt3GEF
[2015-08-06 13:27:20] iGotSpots: nope
[2015-08-06 13:28:01] iGotSpots: because i know what youre trying to do and i dont have time for the kiddy games anymore
[2015-08-06 13:28:26] iGotSpots: find someone else to argue with
[2015-08-06 13:29:10] Fallout: Im an investor, Im trying to find out what is going on
[2015-08-06 13:33:15] Fallout: So I shouldnt ask questions?
[2015-08-06 13:34:40] iGotSpots: its ok, one day youll learn how coins work and this will alllll make sense
[2015-08-06 13:36:13] Fallout: Did you even look at it? Thats not a masternode payment wallet
[2015-08-06 13:36:24] iGotSpots: well
[2015-08-06 13:36:30] iGotSpots: we know who has arrived here tonight now ;p
[2015-08-06 13:38:07] Fallout: Not trolling, dont dismiss it. Its an issue as far as I can see
[2015-08-06 13:39:54] stabycroc;_)>: @Fallout, im a troll box troll and no wat ur asking isnt trolling, u asked clear and to the point without hate or fud... ur fine dw
[2015-08-06 13:40:52] Fallout: Its a staking wallet, staking every minute or so
[2015-08-06 13:46:10] Fallout: Unless I am mistaken, this is bad Spots, its not the only wallet either
[2015-08-06 13:47:31] iGotSpots: guess the coin is broke and you should sell
[2015-08-06 13:48:16] Fallout: I think I will. If you are happy that two wallets seem to be taking all the stakes and it doesnt bother you.
[2015-08-06 13:48:16] stabycroc;_)>: PM@Fallout, & that is why i troll spots into the ground... ego ova professionalizm
[2015-08-06 13:49:40] Fallout: Ive backed you in the past but this is a joke
[2015-08-06 13:49:41] iGotSpots: wanna know a secret
[2015-08-06 13:49:52] iGotSpots: (i have videos and tips in the wallet on how to stake efficiently)
[2015-08-06 13:49:56] iGotSpots: like i said earlier
[2015-08-06 13:50:08] iGotSpots: people should really read WHAT i say instead of what is said ABOUT me
[2015-08-06 13:51:10] stabycroc;_)>: well he isnt asking about u Mr.ego he asking about the wallet and coin.... less ego more pro!!
[2015-08-06 13:51:11] iGotSpots: i know what youre trying to do and im not playing that game
[2015-08-06 13:51:36] Fallout: Drop your ego for one minute and just look ffs
[2015-08-06 13:51:12] Fallout: I can read, I have setup many wallets, with small inputs. I stake about a hundred a day. These wallets are pulling over 1000 a day
[2015-08-06 13:52:17] iGotSpots: im looking right at it
[2015-08-06 13:52:24] iGotSpots: i can squint and look harder if youd like?
[2015-08-06 13:52:44] iGotSpots: i see nothing except someone who is following my tips
You then proceeded to delete all questions from the main thread for the rest of the day. You were trying to hide the exploit from everyone.
When I got up the next day you had locked the thread and abandoned GorillaBucks without a word of explanation to anyone.
The truth about the exploit was out and you shit bricks.
That's what really happened.
The excuse about caring for your family is just a blatant lie and a way to blame others for the GorillaBucks collapse.
And BCX... you can suck me dry.
How come you said the exploit was fixed when it wasn't?
I made no comments about it at all, quit putting words into my mouth. I still don't care what the issue even is/was, I'm writing these coins off as a loss instead of dumping on people
Orly, no comment about it at all you say?
[2015-07-22 06:07:47] iGotSpots: @Crestington, that vulnerability was closed in bucks, but since they found it i assume its usable in other coins such as crave
[2015-07-22 06:08:02] iGotSpots: i did not know about it until they posted it though and it is a big deal, but its fixed for bucks now
[2015-07-22 06:08:40] iGotSpots: it did not require a new client for the fix, either
[2015-07-22 06:08:51] Crestington: @iGotSpots, what was the exact vulnerability?
[2015-07-22 06:09:23] iGotSpots: like im going to say that in a chatbox lol
Then a week or two later when I first discovered I could no longer stake GorillaBucks I tried to ask you about it. This is where our recent relationship began:
[2015-08-06 13:25:41] Fallout: Hey Spots
[2015-08-06 13:26:37] iGotSpots: yo
[2015-08-06 13:26:49] Fallout: Care to explain this: http://bucks.blockexplorer.cc/address/BRs3e2APRxhjsCjdRSujVHNtb2krBt3GEF
[2015-08-06 13:27:20] iGotSpots: nope
[2015-08-06 13:28:01] iGotSpots: because i know what youre trying to do and i dont have time for the kiddy games anymore
[2015-08-06 13:28:26] iGotSpots: find someone else to argue with
[2015-08-06 13:29:10] Fallout: Im an investor, Im trying to find out what is going on
[2015-08-06 13:33:15] Fallout: So I shouldnt ask questions?
[2015-08-06 13:34:40] iGotSpots: its ok, one day youll learn how coins work and this will alllll make sense
[2015-08-06 13:36:13] Fallout: Did you even look at it? Thats not a masternode payment wallet
[2015-08-06 13:36:24] iGotSpots: well
[2015-08-06 13:36:30] iGotSpots: we know who has arrived here tonight now ;p
[2015-08-06 13:38:07] Fallout: Not trolling, dont dismiss it. Its an issue as far as I can see
[2015-08-06 13:39:54] stabycroc;_)>: @Fallout, im a troll box troll and no wat ur asking isnt trolling, u asked clear and to the point without hate or fud... ur fine dw
[2015-08-06 13:40:52] Fallout: Its a staking wallet, staking every minute or so
[2015-08-06 13:46:10] Fallout: Unless I am mistaken, this is bad Spots, its not the only wallet either
[2015-08-06 13:47:31] iGotSpots: guess the coin is broke and you should sell
[2015-08-06 13:48:16] Fallout: I think I will. If you are happy that two wallets seem to be taking all the stakes and it doesnt bother you.
[2015-08-06 13:48:16] stabycroc;_)>: PM@Fallout, & that is why i troll spots into the ground... ego ova professionalizm
[2015-08-06 13:49:40] Fallout: Ive backed you in the past but this is a joke
[2015-08-06 13:49:41] iGotSpots: wanna know a secret
[2015-08-06 13:49:52] iGotSpots: (i have videos and tips in the wallet on how to stake efficiently)
[2015-08-06 13:49:56] iGotSpots: like i said earlier
[2015-08-06 13:50:08] iGotSpots: people should really read WHAT i say instead of what is said ABOUT me
[2015-08-06 13:51:10] stabycroc;_)>: well he isnt asking about u Mr.ego he asking about the wallet and coin.... less ego more pro!!
[2015-08-06 13:51:11] iGotSpots: i know what youre trying to do and im not playing that game
[2015-08-06 13:51:36] Fallout: Drop your ego for one minute and just look ffs
[2015-08-06 13:51:12] Fallout: I can read, I have setup many wallets, with small inputs. I stake about a hundred a day. These wallets are pulling over 1000 a day
[2015-08-06 13:52:17] iGotSpots: im looking right at it
[2015-08-06 13:52:24] iGotSpots: i can squint and look harder if youd like?
[2015-08-06 13:52:44] iGotSpots: i see nothing except someone who is following my tips
You then proceeded to delete all questions from the main thread for the rest of the day. You were trying to hide the exploit from everyone.
When I got up the next day you had locked the thread and abandoned GorillaBucks without a word of explanation to anyone.
The truth about the exploit was out and you shit bricks.
That's what really happened.
The excuse about caring for your family is just a blatant lie and a way to blame others for the GorillaBucks collapse.
And BCX... you can suck me dry.
"did these coins all get swapped to a coin with different parameters that changed the economic? yes"
breach of contract ... without doubt guilty ... if it happened just once a dev can reclaim trust by doing good work.
fraudster / scammer ... Is there a serial pattern?
Hats off to those who state the obvious.
breach of contract ... without doubt guilty ... if it happened just once a dev can reclaim trust by doing good work.
fraudster / scammer ... Is there a serial pattern?
Hats off to those who state the obvious.
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-BUCKS
look at 1 of his coin
i lose more at 10k and im never interesting again with his coin
look at 1 of his coin
i lose more at 10k and im never interesting again with his coin
well i guess that depends on your definition of a scam...
did spots 'promise' staking contracts then cancel them citing the fine print? yes
is that a scam? no
is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes.
did spots launch a bunch of coins? yes
did these coins all fail? yes
did these coins all get swapped to a coin with different parameters that changed the economic? yes
is that adarkcoin scam? no
is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes
i think spoetnik the problem you are facing is this is not so much as the pirate scam as much as a day to day scam paying someones wages.
new definition of scam = majority of the sheeple/'users' end up fucked in the end. yes. and very much so. spots is no dummy and nor would you find anyone to say otherwise. his ambulance chasing has raised the bar for what pieces of shit can get away with on these forums and to not call these fucks out is just as bad as turning a blind eye to pirate type schemes. staying 'neutral' in such matters only diminishes what respect I had for you.
did spots 'promise' staking contracts then cancel them citing the fine print? yes
is that a scam? no
is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes.
did spots launch a bunch of coins? yes
did these coins all fail? yes
did these coins all get swapped to a coin with different parameters that changed the economic? yes
is that a
is that enough to get your ass kicked? yes
i think spoetnik the problem you are facing is this is not so much as the pirate scam as much as a day to day scam paying someones wages.
new definition of scam = majority of the sheeple/'users' end up fucked in the end. yes. and very much so. spots is no dummy and nor would you find anyone to say otherwise. his ambulance chasing has raised the bar for what pieces of shit can get away with on these forums and to not call these fucks out is just as bad as turning a blind eye to pirate type schemes. staying 'neutral' in such matters only diminishes what respect I had for you.
"backing him up" ?
I was saying.. put it on the table guys.
if you have the smoking gun then let's see it !
I have fought with him plenty and enough is enough.. lol
if anything I'd like to stay neutral.
as always with anyone in crypto I have always said put the facts / proof etc out there for all to see.
the topic title is scam dev..
where is the proof of a scam ?
I think you guys failed here trashing on him.. at least for that specific reasoning ahhaa
I was saying.. put it on the table guys.
if you have the smoking gun then let's see it !
I have fought with him plenty and enough is enough.. lol
if anything I'd like to stay neutral.
as always with anyone in crypto I have always said put the facts / proof etc out there for all to see.
the topic title is scam dev..
where is the proof of a scam ?
I think you guys failed here trashing on him.. at least for that specific reasoning ahhaa
lol, your fate is pretty much sealed when Spoetnik is backing you up.
But thanks for posting, not really sure why you bothered when you are obviously clueless to the whole situation.
But thanks for posting, not really sure why you bothered when you are obviously clueless to the whole situation.
not as interesting as some of the fake positive trust you have given yourself?
also, what did you have to give for ocminer to remove his neg?
also, what did you have to give for ocminer to remove his neg?
I'm pretty sure that Lottery Tickets is one of his alts.. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lottery-tickets-149949
So... when did this cryptsy insider, shitcoin pushing carpet cleaner become a crap cloning dev ? lol
Thanks. We've been around for over 3 years now, so things are going well. Just wanted to jump in to help FTC get around as much as we could.
(After cleaning carpet for several years, I also have hardwood now too lol carpet is the last thing I want to see when I get home)
(After cleaning carpet for several years, I also have hardwood now too lol carpet is the last thing I want to see when I get home)
It definitely is
I'm not ashamed to have run successful companies in multiple industries, it's not an insult to me at all. Unlike most people here, I know the actual value of a dollar thanks to years of hard, physical labor. And just to be clear, I wasn't actually scrubbing rugs, I owned the whole company..
Don't even get me started on Cryptsy.. the whole reason they are mad at me is because of what I've said about how they operate; I really have nothing nice to say about them in the slightest
We agree on that LOL
Cryptsy ahahhaa
popcorn ?
Jeez I looked at the first page and last 2 and I see the deal I think..
Good luck guys, I am staying out of this one
Running crap coins and being a proven scammer are not the same thing though guys.
from the sounds of it he made an exchange (I have not been keeping up with things)
or had some part in it's operation ?
anyway he explained etc etc
so what is the problem ?
some of you are claiming it was a ploy all along to steal your money ? (the Gorrilla exchange thing)
do you have proof he *planned it ?
doh.. I said I'd stay out of it
Can we discuss some of the other weazle pieces of shit ?
Blocknet and the million dollar cash grab ?
there is many money grubbers out there.. wanna play this game then get ready to get dirty boys and girls.
I cashed out more and more watching the scene turn uglier and uglier..
if you guys are looking at the ANN section with 8 thousand coins and are investing in them or with their associated services / exchanges etc
then you get what you get..
Bump. Let's not forget.
Wow. After all the time I spent helping you personally. I definitely won't forget
Bump. Let's not forget.
So spots is scam. We know, hopefully everyone else does
so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply
I understood his point completely. Read it again.
Lol I doxed myself like.. years ago. Not everyone is afraid to put their name on what they're doing
Btw, I lost more money than anyone on BUCKS, so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply
Btw, I lost more money than anyone on BUCKS, so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply
I guess we have different definitions of failure
I'm sure you're very familiar with the definition.. you experience it daily from the moment you wake up and look at yourself. Do you consider your failed coins a success since you were able to make profit on your scams before they failed?
You're pretty brazen for a publicly doxxed scammer... i take some comfort in knowing that as crypto becomes increasingly regulated you'll be one of the first pondering your life decisions whilst sharing a cell with Bubba, your new girlfriend
I guess we have different definitions of failure
my new goal will be to release 1000 coins anonymously. Fuck all of you assholes. Whenever you see a coin launched from here on out, there is a 98% chance it will be from me, and I will not support any of them
all his coin he created is became trash and useless. and he state that he will create 1000 coin anonymously.
i think mod here has to do something to prevent igotspot launching a new coin
LOLOLOL
Unfortunately crypto attracts some of the more useless members of society who can't succeed in life without scamming others. The scamming, lying narcissistic shitstain known as igotspots is a perfect example if this.
I wouldn't worry about all the supposed coins he's going to launch, the language in his ann's will always reek of self-entitlement and delusions of grandeur, even though he's too stupid to write a single line of code for himself.
Every coin this piece of shit has ever launched has failed. Hopefully he gets permanently banned at some point (or if we're lucky he gets to rot in a prison cell). In the meantime, avoid igotspots like the plague.
my new goal will be to release 1000 coins anonymously. Fuck all of you assholes. Whenever you see a coin launched from here on out, there is a 98% chance it will be from me, and I will not support any of them
all his coin he created is became trash and useless. and he state that he will create 1000 coin anonymously.
i think mod here has to do something to prevent igotspot launching a new coin
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