So, I decided to post some of the emails I've received from our resident asshole over the past few months. This is just a taste, I've left out most of the legal threats and the personal information about how his house is super nice and his mom knows tons of lawyers or some other shit, but this should be enough to show the type of people I've been dealing with. My responses are also included as quotes of Vegas' responses, so you can see the conversation from both sides, minus the ones threatening or trying to extort me, I'll save those for later if needed. I've also not included the 20 or so emails prior to me not wanting to help with VegasCoin where he praised me as the best developer ever:
- Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-06-04 15:50
Message 11 of 25 < >
Hey man, Im strongly considering taking over Vegas coin, as the dev left it to die. Theres only one problem, I dont know shit about code. Im brilliant in business and creative, and can turn a pile of shit into a fat stack of money, but I need your advice on how/where to learn code. Ive owned multiple computer repair shops for 20 years in Vegas and considered the best in IT in Vegas, but I dont know where to start when it comes to software coding. I thought it best to "ask the best". I CAN learn code. I think its obvious by now Im intelligent, I just dont know where to start. How did you learn? If you werent so damn busy I would pay you to teach me. So, thats where Im at, Vegas coin will be worth a mint under my control, I just have to figure out how to learn code as the coin is so fucked right now, it would need to be written from the ground up, and I want to put my spin on it too. Anyway whats your thoughts? I kn ow your super busy, thanks for your time.
Vegas
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- Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
To [email protected]
Date 2015-06-24 22:31
Message 9 of 25 < >
Im hoping we can resolve this. Just me and you, between us. I promise never to reveal the details to anyone. All I am asking is the value of my coins in US when sent to you, I will get the same value returned to me in new bucks. I have some MMXIV, and bucks, and sold everything else. MMXIV will be treated same as everyone else's ratio. Dont have enough to care. In return, I will not post any negative comments on any thread. I will probably have questions, l might ask questions after the swap and these will be normal and repectful. I really dont want to make this a huge deal. Im been fighting for 43 years non stop, and its getting old. Does this sound fair? Again between me and you.
Vegas
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- Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-06-24 22:53
Message 8 of 25 < >
Well.. Im going to let this play out, and as I dont own any vary or Teeth, I cant see me coming out dollar wise some what even . So lets let this play out. Ill keep out of your hair. If I even break even, Ill send you an apology. I really had nothing to do with any sort of death threats. I agree , that is crossing the line. It was most likely they see what I see. I really dont want that blamed on me. They are individuals and make their own childish mistakes.
Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
On 6/24/2015 8:37 PM, GorillaStake wrote:
You'll get the same ratio as everyone else. You can be as mad as you want, man, but there is nothing shady going on at all
You don't even know the dollar value of the new coin, calm down. You've already wasted so much of my time dealing with your posts and now people harassing my non-immediate family that I'm not even sure I'll finish porting Darksend to the new wallet
If you think something is shady or illegal, it's not, but you are free to do whatever you feel is right. It's not a threat, because I obviously don't want to deal with it, but I won't back down either
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- Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-06-24 23:13
Message 7 of 25 < >
No man, no way. Had NOTHING to do with cheap coins. I was crystal clear about my upset that using the example many times , someone holding ONLY original bucks of $200 will get returned $50 of new bucks. I dont do slimey shit and fud a coin to get cheaper coins, and at the same time hurting your business and reputation. Im much better than that. You know that. I STILL feel the same way as I did when this whole thing started. I think when all is said and done, your going to have a LOT of angry people on your hands all at the same time. There are MANY people that still have no clue about whats coming. If I end up near even on the bucks swap, then Ill drop everything (like it never happend). Ive done the math many ways, many times, and its comes out a big loss. I just thought I could resolve this easily with you. Because when the coin is swapped , and people calculate it, all fucking hell is going to break loose. Would it not be a good idea to make sure Im not there that day pouring gasoline on that big fire, cause you know I will, If I take a 50% loss. It would be best by resolving this with me now in advance, and promise the same value out as I put in? Neither one of us want a big thing, so if you strongly believe I will come out with around the same us dollar amount that I send you, it should be no big deal to agree to this. Until then Im going to chill and not cause any more mayhem until after the swap (if needed).
Vegas
On 6/24/2015 8:57 PM, GorillaStake wrote:
I know you weren't, but it was the avalanche you started. If it was a game to get cheaper coins, it really fucked up a lot of things. If you had just been rational, I would have listened, but now it is what it is
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- Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-06-24 23:32
Message 6 of 25 < >
Like I said, your convinced that we are not going to all get screwed on the 28th. I am convinced this has been planned for months to shaft everyone but you. I will let the results decide my actions on the 28th. I have reached out to you in a kind manner, and a not so kind of manner, but your mind is made up. Talk to you on the 28th.
Vegas
On 6/24/2015 9:24 PM, GorillaStake wrote:
Sorry, but I won't be bullied into giving anyone special treatment. Don't take it as an insult, because I would tell anyone else the same thing
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- Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-06-24 23:47
Message 5 of 25 < >
Ill be reporting the results on my website, whatever they are, good or bad, on the 28th of June. Keep in mind , when people search for gorillabucks, or ANY variation of the search on google,bing, and yahoo and more. My site is the first 4 results for that term. If I take a massive loss, I will write a long explanation with screen shots. Dont bother with a libel suit. Im sure you know to win a libel suit, the facts MUST be false, and I will make sure EVERYTHING is factual. I know a lot about everything, especially law. My moms good friend is a lawyer , so I used to sit in his office 6 days a week, and just read all the law books on the shelf. You know the big thick ones. This went on for 8 years. This is how I became very very adept at law. My mind soaked it up like a sponge, they got the biggest kick that by age 12 , I had read all the law books on the shelf multiple times over and could quote them at will.
Vegas
On 6/24/2015 9:32 PM, Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed wrote:
Like I said, your convinced that we are not going to all get screwed on the 28th. I am convinced this has been planned for months to shaft everyone but you. I will let the results decide my actions on the 28th. I have reached out to you in a kind manner, and a not so kind of manner, but your mind is made up. Talk to you on the 28th.
Vegas
On 6/24/2015 9:24 PM, GorillaStake wrote:
Sorry, but I won't be bullied into giving anyone special treatment. Don't take it as an insult, because I would tell anyone else the same thing
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- Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-06-25 11:47
Message 4 of 25 < >
There is nothing more to talk about. Youve decided you will not compromise in any way. ok fine. I will wait until I see my results, and that will end up at the top of google 4x over. Good or bad. There is nothing you can do to me because it will all be factual with loads of screen shots to prove before and after. Its only libel if its false. I told you a long time ago, I am not like ANYONE you have ever delt with. Im going to let you do your thing, and then I do mine. BTW reread the definition of extortion. What I made to you was an offer to resolve a conflict , thats all. Whenever I see a possible conflict, I ALWAYS try to work things out. Most people are reasonable and fair, and come to a compromise. Some think they are god and untouchable. You DONT know everything, not even close. But do me a favor, dont contact me until after the swap. Your clearly not going to compromise.
Im just gonna post the results , thats it. You are 100% sure this will be the best thing ever. So It should be a great review right? I can assure you I will post the results EXACTLY as they come out. I can promise you that. Thats all. Ive tried to work this out with you, over and over again, and you flat refuse to compromise with me in any way.
Vegas
On 6/24/2015 11:23 PM, GorillaStake wrote:
Although I can promise if you actually post positively and help build hype, rather than hate, for the swap, you will make a lot more money
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- Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-06-25 12:33
Message 2 of 25 < >
After speaking with council, I was advised that what you did was also criminal:
You FORCED people to send them ALL of the funds with no other choice with their wallet file AND their password/ or privkey
Then youll likely return much less in Value. Think this is legal? REALLY?
I cannot do anything yet until the 28th when this is proven. But be assured this will be part of the package.
Your frustrated because this is the first time in your life you cant just do whatever you want to people. You would have gotten away with all of this except one thing.. ME!
Vegas
On 6/25/2015 10:18 AM, GorillaStake wrote:
The sad thing is that you don't realize you are only emphasizing your libelous effect that you have already had. My case is already made, the defense is ready. All further contact will need to be done in physical form
If you want any response at all from here on out, that will be your only way to achieve them. This includes email and forums, as well
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- Vegasguy's Real Name has been Removed
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-06-25 14:03
Message 1 of 25 < >
Once the judge and investigators see what youve done, I can assure you with 100% certainty , they will not even care about a frivolous libel suit. Especially when it does not meet the criteria of libel (Its ALL true). You should know , that no action has been taken against you yet. You still may come to your senses, but then probably not. After you victimize your investors Im going to email them and get sworn statements with a loss sheet. I will take this to investigators and also have it with me in court. Now when a judge sees all these sworn affidavits about you, you still think you'll walk away from that? Truthfully, I want you to go through with this. I think you really need to be taught a hard lesson, that you CANT just do whatever you feel like. I just want to be the one to teach you. I dont hate you, I hate your crimes.
Vegas
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For the record, all of this was about a week before the swap. The harassment, slander, and libel have only gotten worse since then. The entire thing started because I didn't want to help a shady person control a coin named VegasCoin and would not give him a special, higher ratio for the coin swap / blockchain merge. You're welcome for not skewing the results for the rest of you to bend for one greedy person trying to threaten and extort me out of being FUDed
So how about all the ass kissing while you were making over $22,000 off the people you claim to be fighting for?
- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To [email protected]
Date 2015-05-03 02:55
Message 24 of 25 < >
I know your very secretive, and its a great quality in crypto. Im very excited to be a part of this.
Vegas
On 5/3/2015 12:42 AM, [email protected] wrote:
You should know by now I won't comment on orders from other people, but there have been a few that have had multiples combined into one address
I'll move them over tonight and send the key out Monday morning. It'll be coming by Certified Mail, though, so there will need to be a signature for delivery
Thanks again
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- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To [email protected]
Date 2015-05-03 03:34
Message 23 of 25 < >
You may have to extend it out a few days when you return. Your an inovator, and youll figure things out. Ill be honest, I think the whole personal adress thing may have hurt it a bit. People are real funny in Crypto about being anonymous. So Im not sure why you had to do that. I mean if youve got their money, send them the coins. I only did it because I trust you, but there are alot of frightened new comers. Im excellent in business and money, so your welcome to throw ideas at me, and Ill give you the blunt truth. I would have said hell no, on the idea of collecting personal addresses because it goes against everything that is crypto. Just my 2₵. Things take time too. The people that are not risk takers will watch the crazy fucks like us jump in the pool first and if we make it back out, then the safe people will walk to the shallow end and carefully climb in. So, its not over, its just the begining. On a positive note, I dont need to tell you , you NAILED it with Gorilla Teeth. MANY MANY happy people on that thread. VERY nice solution for a BIG problem! Gorilla bucks will rock, it just takes time! Don't worry about the banned shit, wont be the first , wont be the last, its your signature and one of the things that makes you Spots
Vegas
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- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To [email protected]
Date 2015-05-03 03:48
Message 22 of 25 < >
If you remember in January I was the first one to bring up MMXIV Elite on a closed circuit. You know enough now to understand that if this is REALLY exclusive, and many dont sell, thats NOT a bad thing. The price will go WAY up. I did suggest an ICO to you in Jan, so people can decide how much they want, and be private, so you still may want to consider doing that as its a hell of alot easier than how your trying to do it now,with certified mail and crap, and it does not violate those shitheads rules. I cant imagine how your even getting all of this done. Please do consider an ICO with a VERY limited number of coins at a high price. Ive got my coins, I just want to see you sell more. Forget all the bad shit about ICO, thats just for scammers. People WILL buy from you, but they may not want to give their home address out.
A trip down memory lane: (where it all started)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623884.2695;wap2
Vegas
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Now let's show how amazing of a computer expert you are..
- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To [email protected]
Date 2015-05-04 12:24
Message 18 of 25 < > change-formatchange-format
Hey whats the min stake time on Gorilla teeth? The reason I ask, is because I got 1 stake 1 hour after my deposit of teeth (about 430 Teeth), and for the past 24 hours it has said "you dont have mature coins". It doesnt really matter what it is, just need to know. On one of your sites it said it uses a model similar to 10k, so I am aware the rewards are different, just confused on the min stake age, as its not clearly listed anywhere. For some reason, I thought it was an hour, if that is true, something is very wrong.
Thanks
Vegas
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- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To [email protected]
Date 2015-05-04 17:37
Message 17 of 25 < > change-formatchange-format
ok so ive read all the specs, and I still dont understand. Can you please take a moment and explain. I withdraw about 432 teeth yesterday about 9pm. About an hour later I got a stake. I though ok.. everything is good. Then I read more than the min stake age is 1 hr, BUT since I got that stake 17 hours ago, my wallet says I dont have any "mature coins". I dont get it. I dont really care how it works, I just need to know. Im going to guess since your not telling me... Do I have to wait until THAT stake matures (2-3) days before I am elegable again to return to stake mode? Please just take a second and say it. Is it normal for it to not be in stake mode 17 hours? I have closed and reopened and unlocked it 2-3 times, and it is in sync, and no change. Still says "you dont have mature coins"
Thanks
Vegas
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: GorillaBucks
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, May 04, 2015 12:09 pm
To:
It's working perfectly. You should read all the specs
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- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To [email protected]
Date 2015-05-04 17:52
Message 16 of 25 < > change-formatchange-format
I did read that stakes take days to confirm. I fully understood that. In the past with all other coins, you can stake again even though your other stakes are not confirmed. So am I understanding that I have to wait until this stake confirms before I can stake again? This is fine, just need to understand. You know me, by now, I have NEVER asked you directly, because I know your busy as fuck, but I am just not understanding.
Thanks
Vegas
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Teeth
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, May 04, 2015 3:40 pm
To:
They are not confirmed. You didn't read well enough. It takes 10 days
for stake to mature
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- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To [email protected]
Date 2015-05-14 12:03
Message 15 of 25 < >
Spots, easy call man. Burn the remaining money supply. 9300 money supply sounds FUCKING AWESOME!!! We can call a BIG price for these. If there are 500,00 it will DRASTICALLY reduce the price. We have a VERY exclusive thing here man, lets make this special. Lets make EVERYONE BEG for these fuckers! YOU ROCK!!
Vegasguy
On 5/14/2015 1:14 AM, [email protected] wrote:
You are receiving this message because I need to make a decision. This is going out to everyone who got into BUCKS. 93 chunks of 100 BUCKS are claimed, so you can figure out what your personal percentage of the network is, based off of that
Two Options:
1) Destroy the coins that are unclaimed (9300 coins were claimed, so that would be the total moneysupply; with 100% yearly stake, the supply will be tiny and stakes will be hard to get)
2) Distribute the remaining coins from the 500,000 fairly amongst everyone who got in. That means we take the leftover / 93 and split it up evenly. Basically, for each block of 100 BUCKS you have now, you would receive another 5291 per chunk
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- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To [email protected]
Date 2015-05-22 16:36
Message 14 of 25 < >
ok there is just something I dont get about Gorilla bucks. When I got your letter, I imported the funds using "importprivkey". Funds showed up and everything looked good. The part I totally dont get is my last stake was on 5/8/15 which is the same day I imported the funds. I have not had one stake since, and that has been 2 weeks. I understood that the staking is much slower, but is this right? Wallet looks normal, and in sync. I have the latest 4.02, and even blew out the block chain and resynced. What else is weird is , it still says I dont have mature coins after 14 days. I feel like I dumb ass asking you, but I figure while bitcointalk is down I can bother you Also where it says "stake" it shows all my funds staking, but the arrow is greyed out. Ya , I know, "the arrow lies"
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- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-05-29 17:01
Message 13 of 25 < >
Hey man, I think you know what Im talking about, but I just wanted to mention between me and you. The bucks chain is moving fast as fuck, yet the money supply hardly changes!?!?! MANY times the blocks move and the money supply is EXACTLY the same. So the 250,000 bucks question is ... WHO is getting all those POS blocks? Im not gonna say shit, because I think you have enough drama with these fucking idiots. Im dumber than a box o rocks and I noticed it.
Vegas
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- Vegasguy's Real Name Omitted
To GorillaStake
Date 2015-05-29 18:05
Message 12 of 25 < >
dude, like I said I dont care. You didnt have to burn the reminder so fast. I am very honest when I say that I do not understand why most people in crypto think devs should work for free. It MAKES no sense. They kick up holy shit if they think the dev is making any money. Anyway whats done is done. I was just saying be careful thats all. Your ok in my book.
Vegas
On 5/29/2015 3:21 PM, GorillaStake wrote:
It's moving fast because I set the PoW difficulty to reset so I can move the chain to destroy the coins
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I spent hours walking you through the most basic crypto fundamentals and answering your Day One questions for months. Flip-flopping started when I refused to run an ICO you could manipulate
