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Topic: I'm a bear and proud - page 3. (Read 5197 times)

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legendary
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RepuX - Enterprise Blockchain Protocol
April 23, 2013, 12:30:00 PM
#72
As a fellow bear let me tell you: There isn't really a upper or lower limit for the valuation of individual Bitcoins, just a limit on the real market capitalization.

"0" should be a lower limit. Modern finance gave us negative interest, but I fail to see how a digital key can have a negative value.
newbie
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April 23, 2013, 12:29:20 PM
#71
only you dont have to write it, plus coins? wheres the serial there
legendary
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April 23, 2013, 12:28:05 PM
#70
so i have to write down a private key and pass phrase to buy a can of coca cola? i would rather stick to fiat thanks

What do you think fiat is?

It's a fucking serial number on a piece of paper.
full member
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April 23, 2013, 12:27:20 PM
#69
so i have to write down a private key and pass phrase to buy a can of coca cola? i would rather stick to fiat thanks

You can have paper like cash with the wallet printed on it. Just give and done, can paid.
newbie
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April 23, 2013, 12:25:28 PM
#68
so i have to write down a private key and pass phrase to buy a can of coca cola? i would rather stick to fiat thanks
legendary
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April 23, 2013, 12:24:49 PM
#67
what if i can't afford have a smart phone or pc? and i want to buy a can of coca cola down the road

Write down a private key or a passphrase for a brain wallet and use that as payment.  The merchant can instantly verify it and send the funds to their address.
newbie
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April 23, 2013, 12:22:48 PM
#66
what if i can't afford have a smart phone or pc? and i want to buy a can of coca cola down the road
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April 23, 2013, 12:19:10 PM
#65
Hey bulls I now have cheap tulips, gold, beanie babies, 1/4 acre lots on the moon, credit default swaps, Enron stock, and some great tech stocks trading at pennies.  You better get this stuff while it is cheap or you will be very sorry soon my friends.

Oh crap I forget bulls only like to buy up a lot when the price is super high, on second thought I'm charging an extra 1000% markup on all.

Trade? Peanut the Royal Blue Elephant (Beanie Baby) for my weekend home in Ordos, my entire MF Global stock holdings, an ounce of Rhodium, and I'll throw in two bitcoins to sweeten the deal. PM me if interested....
legendary
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April 23, 2013, 12:18:47 PM
#64
care to tell me how bitcoin portability  beats fiat

1. cross border transactions- faster/cheaper than cash or digital fiat
2. internet transactions- faster/cheaper than digital fiat
3. person to person transfers- faster/cheaper than digital fiat
4. in person transactions- equivalent to cash, cheaper than digital fiat

Care to give me one example of bitcoin not being portable?  In physical locations where it is accepted, bitcoin is just as easy to use as cash.
newbie
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April 23, 2013, 12:14:23 PM
#63
care to tell me how bitcoin portability  beats fiat
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a wolf in sheeps clothing. suckerfish
April 23, 2013, 12:12:49 PM
#62
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Furthermore the bitcoin will never reach $1000, bulls stop pipe dreaming, why would individuals risk $1000 of their hard earned fiat cash, for something that isn't backed by gold/ silver or a commodity, one way to get seriously burned, but the rationale of a group


100% proof that this Junior Profile "early adopter" has no idea what he's talking about. This is a classic example of the psychological barrier of a price of "1 whole bitcoin." It doesn't matter whether you buy 1 whole bitcoin or a piece of a bitcoin or 2 and 3/17ths of a bitcoin. The fact that OP is hung up on the "whole bitcoin = $$X" issue is a dead giveaway that he doesn't really understand bitcoin.

Individuals don't have to risk $1000 of their hard earned cash because "one whole bitcoin" doesn't matter. They can risk $200 or $5 or $5,000,000.

$1000 per One Whole Bitcoin is "unreachable," so what IS reachable? $1000 CAD for 3 bitcoins? 10000 JPY for one millibitcoin? $175 for 0.75 bitcoins? 3,000,000 pesos for a kilobitcoin? 14 remnibi for one satoshi? Take a discrete math class, for god's sake, this is all psychological.

In the code, bitcoin values do not even have a decimal place. They are just a big long string of integers. The decimal place is put in where it is for easy readability, and obviously in its infancy, one bitcoin being worth 50 cents or 1.75 was not psychologically outrageous. In the same way that some large companies split stocks to avoid the psychological barrier of a large stock value, using mBTC or smaller values solves the same problem. The whole number before the decimal DOES NOT MATTER! It is purely psychological. The fact that you do not understand this shows how likely it is that you are really an "early adopter," as the true early adopters tend to have done their research on the concept before buying in. 

Did you say you bought at $12?
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buoght at 12 dollars,

So you're not really an "early adopter." You bought in a few months ago and are calling yourself an "early adopter." Lol.



this!!!!!! + 1 +1 + 1 + 1
legendary
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April 23, 2013, 12:12:10 PM
#61
yes fiat doesn't have an intrinsic value, however if you go to a shop you can pay in physcial fiat and pay for something, you recieve physical change, you can't with bitcoin, thats what give fiat one hundred times more backing than bitcoin, i supppose portability of currency gives fiat backing
i agree electro mucus

Bitcoin certainly has fiat beat on portability.  I will give you that the network effects are stronger for fiat at this time, but popular opinion isn't a very solid backing.
newbie
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April 23, 2013, 12:07:10 PM
#60
yes fiat doesn't have an intrinsic value, however if you go to a shop you can pay in physcial fiat and pay for something, you recieve physical change, you can't with bitcoin, thats what give fiat one hundred times more backing than bitcoin, i supppose portability of currency gives fiat backing
i agree electro mucus
legendary
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April 23, 2013, 12:04:46 PM
#59
i cant take you seriously predicting $1000 a coin or saying fiat is backed as much as bitcoin Huh? really?HuhHuhHuh??

What is fiat backed by?

The European Union  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

Not my fiat, but anyway.... how's that working out for you guys?
full member
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April 23, 2013, 12:03:07 PM
#58
i cant take you seriously predicting $1000 a coin or saying fiat is backed as much as bitcoin Huh? really?HuhHuhHuh??

What is fiat backed by?

The European Union  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
legendary
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April 23, 2013, 12:00:06 PM
#57
As a fellow bear let me tell you: There isn't really a upper or lower limit for the valuation of individual Bitcoins, just a limit on the real market capitalization.
legendary
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April 23, 2013, 11:56:12 AM
#56
i cant take you seriously predicting $1000 a coin or saying fiat is backed as much as bitcoin Huh? really?HuhHuhHuh??

What is fiat backed by?
newbie
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April 23, 2013, 11:55:12 AM
#55
i cant take you seriously predicting $1000 a coin or saying fiat is backed as much as bitcoin Huh? really?HuhHuhHuh??
newbie
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April 23, 2013, 11:53:23 AM
#54
my bad, your right smoothie
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April 23, 2013, 11:53:05 AM
#53
Furthermore the bitcoin will never reach $1000, bulls stop pipe dreaming, why would individuals risk $1000 of their hard earned fiat cash, for something that isn't backed by gold/ silver or a commodity, one way to get seriously burned, but the rationale of a group

quoted for an eventual bump

This quote is why I burst out laughing when I read what this guys posts. I can't take him seriously if he truly believes fiat is backed by anything more than BTC.  Roll Eyes
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