Topic: I'm a bear and proud - page 4. (Read 5151 times)

Bingo.... you're running around with an air of arrogance, when all your statements are opinion.

I agree with some of your criticisms, but you have not said one thing that can be considered a fact.

now no buddy let's not get ahead of yourself. big difference.

That's not an early adopter  I bought at 4$ and even less and I don't consider myself and early adopter. 

and have a right to give my opinion, i've said nothing out of line
i've merely stated facts

no i am just not delusional, i am here as i actively follow bitcoins development

WRITING ALL-CAPS MAKES IT AUTOMATICALLY RIGHT!!!!!!!!!

I am wondering with deathcode why you are here. If you feel we are a bunch of deluded idiots who believe in a Ponzi scheme, that is fine. I'd simply leave in that case. So why are you really here?

I agree 100%.  My only difference in opinion is timing and speculation versus adoption.  But everyone has a right to an opinion even if some here would rather censor it.  They actually think posts on the forums somehow has to do with the price of Bitcoin.  Personally I'm pretty sure it has to do with a butterfly flapping his wings on a windy day.

nkspace so when you are proven wrong about bitcoin hitting $1000 will you then create a new forum profile and make the same claim and just add a zero to the right of the number? lol

The bears have a right to post here. There are definitely some open ends in bitcoin, i personaly tend to be bullish because I feel the necessity for an alternative currency is imminent. Even if bitcoin stays in the shadows and is used as a currency exchange platform it still will grow marginally for a long period of time.

But you nik... You are completely wrong and the other bears aren't coming to save you because they are ashamed of having you under their title. Eat it son.

Hey bulls I now have cheap tulips, gold, beanie babies, 1/4 acre lots on the moon, credit default swaps, Enron stock, and some great tech stocks trading at pennies.  You better get this stuff while it is cheap or you will be very sorry soon my friends.

Oh crap I forget bulls only like to buy up a lot when the price is super high, on second thought I'm charging an extra 1000% markup on all.

market cap 100 billion ?? dream on !

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Lies!!!

Credit card transactions are way slower and reversible!!!
 
Early adoption is key, litecoin is late in the game, media talks about bitcoin, not litecoin, sorry, sometimes it doesn't matter if other products/currencies are better, sometimes it's just a matter of who dominates the market first. Litecoin is a good alternative, that's it.


The higher the price of bitcoin, the harder it will be for manipulators to move the price up or down. When the bitcoin market reaches 100 billion, then manipulators will need 30-40 million to make a dent in the system. You just can't see the bit picture.

You're an early adopter and you don't know fiat is not backed up by gold anymore? at least USD and Euros aren't.
Every sentence you state makes it more obvious that you do not understand basic economy.



We understand you're a bear, then you should simply leave the forum. This forum is for people that believe in the bitcoin system as more than a speculative tool. You don't seem to believe in the future of bitcoin at all therefore I'm not sure why are you even here.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Economics > Speculation
HAHAHAHAHA oh wow.

No I will be like

Soon BTC will reach another all time high and you will be

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PS "there is a manipulation in price by big dogs"... U may be right... But this will not destroy BTC... In fact, market volatility... Is certainly attracting more folks than BTC's practical uses, IMO. Is this so wrong?

So let me get this straight, you're ASS U ME ing and putting words into our mouth?


Sure, in a low-liquidity market there will always be volatility and manipulation.


I wholeheartedly agree. If confirmation time matters, I use Litecoin and I await superior alternatives. For most of my transactions, 10 minutes to an hour (depending on whether or not I pay the fee) is acceptable as most of these transactions are not demanding of instantaneous payment, and is easily worth it as I don't have to support the fradulent bankster corporations by pulling out my debit card or logging into PayPal. Again, I agree that a cryptocoin should have conf times rivalling some of the alternatives, but even as is, it is a superior option to supporting fraud and money laundering (lol HSBC).
I agree. I don't think there has been a single instance of, nor will there ever be, a technology that is never replaced. Right now, the alt-coins in existence aren't competing too well since most of them are just satoshi client clones with a couple modifications. And of course, in the distant future, humans will communicate telepathically and we will have invented advanced concepts that surpass the primal need for an intermediary exchange of value. Lol. The numbers are psychological. $1000 is an arbitrary value and "one whole bitcoin" is a string of integers with no decimal place. With adoption at the rate it's been, $1000 will be an easy support in the future. Just look at adoption stats. Sure, adoption can slow. Hasn't happened. You haven't supported this point well enough, aside from making truisms and generalities like "Lol it's overvalued."
Aside from early adopter being a subjective chronological value judgement, I don't consider you an early adopter. If you were involved in 2009-2010 maybe that label is appropriate. This point is somewhat moot as "early adopter" is a subjective chronological value judgement.
Well out of 5 statements that you assume all the bulls here disagreed with, I agree with 3. That's pretty poor performance. We have a name for that, it's called "Strawman." You invent an argument to respond to, to avoid addressing the real arguments. In this case you managed to invent 3 and didn't sufficiently support the 1 valid argument, and of course the early adopter issue I don't consider to be worth pursuing since, as I mentioned, it is a subjective chronological value judgement. Ok, are you going to back that up with numbers, stats, facts, TA, charts, or SOMETHING - rather than just saying it as if it's self-evident.

Op you are a riot. 

Early adopters - for now anyway - are those that went into bitcoin in 2009 - 2010.

I bought at $2 and didn't consider myself an early adopter! I felt like I got close'ish to it though. 

Yeah I was there when it was $12...and as I said I didnt consider myself as an early adopter. So your point?