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Topic: I'm giving 100% ROI away to anyone who thinks pirate is a fraud - page 14. (Read 102970 times)

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
The only lesson you taught the community was that you are not a reliable business partner.

No, I'm pretty sure if anyone is learning a lesson right now, it's the loud mouths who were attacking Pirate investors for being "ignorant". I guess they too are getting a dose of their own medicine!

Oh right you sure showed them by lying and acting foolish.

LOL
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
If I lose the bet, you get 20BTC sent to that address (13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM). If you lose, you'll need to send 20BTC to my address.

for anything other than the better getting 20btc, wouldn't you have to be more explicit?  (e.g., 20btc will be sent..; you get: 20btc sent to; etc.)




Just stop.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
If I lose the bet, you get 20BTC sent to that address (13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM). If you lose, you'll need to send 20BTC to my address.

for anything other than the better getting 20btc, wouldn't you have to be more explicit?  (e.g., 20btc will be sent..; you get: 20btc sent to; etc.)


donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
The only lesson you taught the community was that you are not a reliable business partner.

No, I'm pretty sure if anyone is learning a lesson right now, it's the loud mouths who were attacking Pirate investors for being "ignorant". I guess they too are getting a dose of their own medicine!

You sold the bet as a method of hedging losses for Pirate investors.  A large portion of the bets were from Pirate's victims.  Some victims didn't sell PPT for 30 cents on dollar because they could hedge with you for 50 cent on the dollar.  They could have sold and recovered 30 cents but THEY TRUSTED YOU.

BTW I never trusted you.  I knew you would lose the bet and not pay.  The reality is some people trusted you and lost because their trust was misplaced.  The only lesson you taught people is that you can't be trusted.
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
Well, its too bad this had to happen, whether you think you are a scammer or not, you should resign / dissociate yourself from BTCMag. As you said, even if you are just acting "unethically" that still hurts the magazine, and the best thing you could do at this point would be to apologize to Vlad for dragging him into this, and just walk out.
legendary
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rippleFanatic
I look forward to more accusations and butthurt, but it's pretty late here. Let the trolling begin! I have a big day of work tomorrow in various companies that no one even knows I'm involved in apparently. ROFL.

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donator
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Gerald Davis
You did not pay the bet, you are a scammer

According to which law? I paid already. Please see earlier posts. Thanks!

Who said anything about the law.

If you are so sure your interpretation is valid why not submit it to arbitration.

http://www.judge.me/

sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
The only lesson you taught the community was that you are not a reliable business partner.

No, I'm pretty sure if anyone is learning a lesson right now, it's the loud mouths who were attacking Pirate investors for being "ignorant". I guess they too are getting a dose of their own medicine!

You're the only one learning a lesson here.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
You did not pay the bet, you are a scammer

According to which law? I paid already. Please see earlier posts. Thanks!

Right as we all were betting just numbers and not actual bitcoins.

Nice try.


I already paid 20 BTC for each entry as described in the bet thread. I'm not quite sure what you're talking about.
hero member
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Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
The only lesson you taught the community was that you are not a reliable business partner.

No, I'm pretty sure if anyone is learning a lesson right now, it's the loud mouths who were attacking Pirate investors for being "ignorant". I guess they too are getting a dose of their own medicine!
donator
Activity: 543
Merit: 500
You're giving credibility to that kind of 5 year-old logic by arguing about it.
I'm sorry. You are right.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
You did not pay the bet, you are a scammer

According to which law? I paid already. Please see earlier posts. Thanks!

Right as we all were betting just numbers and not actual bitcoins.

Nice try.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
I paid the bet already as described in my thread.
Maybe. But you wrote it in a way ONLY YOU understood - no one else.

You're giving credibility to that kind of 5 year-old logic by arguing about it.

He's a lying scammer trying to scam people out of their money. What's sad is that he thinks he's not.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
I look forward to more accusations and butthurt, but it's pretty late here. Let the trolling begin! I have a big day of work tomorrow in various companies that no one even knows I'm involved in apparently. ROFL.

It looks like you're challenging people at finding out which companies you work for or are associated with.

This is certainly entertaining Smiley
hero member
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Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
You did not pay the bet, you are a scammer

According to which law? I paid already. Please see earlier posts. Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Vladimir, I hope you'll consider firing Matthew and hiring a new Editor-in-Chief for Bitcoin Magazine. This recent stunt from your chief editor might have killed your little magazine before it had the chance to fly. There is still time to fix it though.

If nothing is done about this, the reputation for the magazine will not be very good.

It's not Vladimir's call. I already replaced myself as Editor-in-Chief 2 months ago. Just waiting on them to formally sign in. Wink

I like how the goal posts keep moving. Not a week ago you referred to yourself as editor in chief.

LOL in my book you are ATLAS #2.
donator
Activity: 543
Merit: 500
I paid the bet already as described in my thread.
Maybe. But you wrote it in a way ONLY YOU understood - no one else.
I didn't take part in the bet. I didn't put any money into pirate's business. But now I know I will never do ANY business with you.

The only lesson you taught the community was that you are not a reliable business partner.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
Sorry mate, as much as I'd love to agree with you and all, I'll have to call bullshit on this one. I paid the bet already as described in my thread. On top of that, are you saying if I wouldn't have made this bet, everyone would magically have subscribed?

I look forward to more accusations and butthurt, but it's pretty late here. Let the trolling begin! I have a big day of work tomorrow in various companies that no one even knows I'm involved in apparently. ROFL.

You just single-handedly killed Bitcoin Magazine. I don't care whether you get fired, I'm never buying it.

Go to hell.

I would have paid you if I lost.
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
I paid the bet already as described in my thread.

You did not pay the bet.  Period.  In an agreement one party can't simply interpret the agreement how they wan't and expect to be resolved any liability.

If you are so sure you paid the bet how about submit it to arbitration:
http://www.judge.me/

Hell I will even pay the judge.me fees you just need to escrow the full balance prior to arbitration to ensure it is paid out if you lose.
BTW I didn't bet so this isn't some attempt for me to collect winnings.  I just know that even you know your interpretation is bogus and wouldn't stand up to any third party.


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On top of that, are you saying if I wouldn't have made this bet, everyone would magically have subscribed?
I didn't say everyone will subscribe that is just more of your personallity showing through.

Your actions will affect the magazine.  Will everyone stop subscribing? No.  If you quit or are fired will everyone pissed at you subscribe? No.

Your actions still do have an effect.

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I look forward to more accusations and butthurt, but it's pretty late here. Let the trolling begin! I have a big day of work tomorrow in various companies that no one even knows I'm involved in apparently. ROFL.

Hopefully they remain hidden as the same would apply to any other company you work for.  Your are a liability for those you work for.  A net negative and if you can't see that well it just shows how much of a risk you are, to those who partner with you.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1001
rippleFanatic
While I don't think anybody in their right mind thought Matthew would honor his wager, I fail to see how this kind of interpretation could possibly avoid him earning a Scammer tag.  This is lower than the eBay scams for a picture of an item.

+1

I didn't even understand the implications of his interpretation first. He only sends 20 BTC to that address in question, which is his own address. So he ends up not paying anything to anyone, except 20 BTC to himself.

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