Topic: I'm really leaving the U.S. for a 3rd world country because of politics - page 3. (Read 16032 times)

With a lot of items, this could definitely be the case. Take coffee for example: its not easy to find locally-grown coffee, though I'm sure it exists. Now all I drink is those Nescafe and Kopiko packets, which is OK, but I do wish there was a better _real_ coffee selection.


Ah, "Uptown"... You must live in one of those fortified subdivisions, like Xavier Heights or something. I've honestly lived/stayed in about 10 different places in Mindanao, and all of them involved either security guards or high fences/walls with barbed wire all around the top. If you look at how the middle class locals live, they must have so much barbed wire for a reason, so I would never just say "fuck it" and live completely unprotected.


I used to work in the health insurance industry so I know exactly what you're talking about, even if it only applies 100% domestically. I used to combat insurance fraud via high-volume data analysis, but the system was so fouled by people who had been taking such hardcore advantage of it for so long, eventually it drove me nuts, and I got fired. I forgot what the exact reason was, but something along the lines of refusing to close a case tangentially involving one of our medical directors. It was an ophthalmologist who would issue botox injections for other doctors, covering it under the insurance as treatment for "blepharospasm" (which has an incidence rate of 1 in 10,000 where botox can be effective in alleviating it).

That and the marking up of lifesaving drugs of thousands of percent, passing the full charge on to poor people when their medicaid had expired, writing collections letters to them for hundreds of thousands of dollars... It was disgusting. Fuck that.


Duterte instills a fear in people that encourages them to act right, which can only benefit me. As an income-bringing foreigner and non-drug smuggler, I have nothing to fear from his administration.


In my experience, Mindanao gets a bad rap not only internationally but from other Filipinos as well. Of course, I've never been to Cotabato or Zamboanga, but generally speaking Mindanao is just like anywhere else. Some regions are super poor and desperate, but I think the martial law just stems out of their desire to not have another Marawi incident, which was not only sad but also embarrassing. How could a city only about 2 hours away from CDO be taken by a relative handful of Islamic radicals and then held for so long?

So, I think the military checkpoints, random inspections, bomb sweeps and armed soldiers just walking around here and there are worth it. Of course, no one is ever going to falsely accuse me of being part of ISIS, so my opinion is biased.

In my first month here I met an American photojournalist who was in Marawi to take pictures. Even though he always went along with military convoys, he still had balls of steel. But then he didn't want to walk the few blocks from the hotel to the mall because the provincial jail was along the way -- it made him nervous. Go figure.

You are full of shit.

The people in Mindanao want 'martial law'.  The government would rather be done with it because it's expensive and a lot of the military is tied up in Mindanao (and thus less able to deal with the communist insurgency which is all over the country.)

The people who are bitching are the so-called 'liberals' who are, in my opinion, largely funded and animated by the NWO crowd (that is, the global corporatists) and in favor all all the standard NWO methods (trans-gender fagotry, fake-ass 'environmental' issues, etc, etc.)  They largely _don't_ live in Mindanao.  Unsurprisingly what passes for 'liberals' tend to be unusually corrupt and they lost the last election big-time in part for this reason.  That is my analysis anyway.

I've spent significant time in Mindanao over the last year and even more time studying the security situation.  I have been through checkpoints numerous times.  The soldiers running them are professional and respectful.  At least to me.  This isn't (American puppet) Marco's 'martial law' where you stop at a checkpoint and they rape your wife.

Ohh I see, I thought that Philippines is not so strict like that especially on some nationality, it's much better then   and for sure it has still something to do with your safety in the Philippines.

Since you have been in Mindanao, and maybe you are aware of the recent announcement of the Philippines' goverment for implementing the Martial Law on Mindanao only..
For you, it is alarming for you as living in mindanao?

Since most of the people who are hardly complaining are those not affected on Martial Law, especially those from Luzon areas.

The Philippines is about the last place anyone should go for 'safety' in the way that most people consider it.  One needs to pay particularly close attention to physical security and develop some relationships and strategies to at least partially mitigate the risks.

I've got respect for Switzerland's internal political system.  My beef with them is that they foster and facilitate entities which do damage outside of their borders.  It's the same with the United States.  They also seem creepy as fuck judging by the tunnel opening ceremony.  My gut sense is that there is no way there are not a lot of Luciferians creeping around that place.  Even as an athiest I don't want to be around them when the chickens come home to roost.

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As for Duterte, I'm basically of the opinion that he is kind of like a real version of the nationalist that Trump played during the election and basically NOT the fraudulent puppet that Trump is.  I figured he might be 'for real' when the world-wide press was universally shitting on the guy.  So far most of what I've seen validates my suspicions.  I think he really is fucking up the NWO plans (infusing the country with drugs (legal and illegal), planting corrupt corporate cronies throughout the government, codling 'religious' pervs, etc, etc.)

I do mostly buy Duterte's argument that the nation really doesn't have the time or resources to successfully fight some of these problems in the ideal way and the end of the nation was closer than some people might think.  Basically conversion into a complete narco-state by the likes of the CIA just like they are wont to do in the Americas.  But he's also a leader in the real world and he has to make compromises and concessions.

I very well could be wrong about the guy.  If he is backed by the same 'talent' that put Trump forward it's good enough to fool me for some time and I don't spend my life studying the guy.  At the end of the day I'm not a Filipino so I'm not under any ethical obligation to call a spade a spade when it comes to Filipino politics.  To a fair degree these are simply not my problems, and that's one of the reasons I got the hell out of Dodge...for now.

Pffft.  'The belly of the beast'?  Been their, done that...about three generations ago.

My suspicion is that Mindanao can and does grow/raise high quality foodstuffs, but nearly 100% of it is exported to places where there is more money.

One of my few mis-estimations and disappointments about the so-called 'developing world' was it not being as common as I thought to trot down to the local market and pick up food items straight from local farms and gardens.  Probably that does happen more in other environments which I am not exposed to.  When I'm in CDO I stay up on the hill with all the other 'rich' people.  Franky speaking, the alternatives put me at higher levels of risk than I desire here in Mindanao, or at least that is my perception.

Looks to me like what happened in The Philippines was that the earlier 1970's vintage plans to make the country safe for U.S. corporations by limiting population proved impractical.  (See. National Security Study Memorandum 200.)  You cannot make people so stupid fast enough that they don't notice you killing/sterilizing 50% of them or whatever figure you need for 'sustainability'.  But it turns out that you really don't need to kill people.  You can have a 'safe' population of nearly any density if the peeps have the appropriate 'character'.  Methods to achieve such a thing were recognized by earlier scientism-ists:


The parts of The Philippines I have seen are heavily contaminated with processed foods, and certain potentially genocidal multi-national corporations pretty much own vast swaths of the markets (e.g., Nestle.)  They also use bargain-basement vaccinations not authorized for use in the country of manufacture.  So, they've got the 'diet' and 'injection' part covered.

In order to radically draw down the mean IQ and get rid of potential troublemakers one can give the statistical outliers who, by accident of fate or physiology elude the engineered idiocracy, 6-figure jobs outside of the country.  I met a number of such people when I was working in Silicon Valley.

My belief is that the Americans peeps are targeted in exactly the same way as 'developing world' people are, but vastly more resources and vastly 'higher technology' is used against this threat.  Americans are a fatter chicken to pluck both individually and as the reward for winning the nation.  And the results show.  Americans are overloaded with expensive prescription drugs.  Their suicide rate is 4 or 5 times that of Filipinos.  Filipinos can stay alive and in some ways thrive on a resource allotment which most Americans cannot imagine.  Physically the average Filipino man looks like a different species than the average American...and a lot more fit one.  The women might look overweight sometimes but on closer examination it is mostly a matter of ratios of subcutaneous fat and that is an ethnic thing.

I made a conscious decision to get out of the United States before having a family.  I consider the environment in the United States to be fraught with health risks which most people cannot recognize and truly frightful ones heading our way like a freight train (see. 'Healthy People 2020'.)  I consider the environment in places like The Philippines with it's germs, half rotten street food, etc to be significantly more prone to produce strong and healthy people than 'sterile environments like the developed parts of the U.S., and that's not even factoring in the more 'conspiratorial' threats to health.

Another philosophical reason I had for voting with my feet:  I consider that anything I add economical to the United States goes directly to the creation of misery and death _all around the world_.  Morally we are plumbing the depths of depravity on a political level.  I blame our monetary system (with it's privately owned central bank) as the driving force for this, but it's complicated.  One problem that The Philippines does NOT have is exporting terror and death...outside of their borders...  Maybe if they were a richer nation they would, but they are not and it will be a long while before they are even in a position to have that option.

At the end of the day, I've spent considerable time in The Philippines now.  I like the people and the culture even though I find it frustrating at times.  At this point I figure it was one of the best decisions I've made in my life, but we'll see if that remains the case as time goes by.  I left a lot behind in the U.S. and I had a nearly ideal life there.  I just see storm clouds gathering and wanted to do some things which I didn't consider compatible with life in the West.  There were no real big surprises about The Philippines to me so apparently I did my research and analysis reasonable well.

I would strongly advise people to 'make their fortune' in the West FIRST before seeking to enjoy the benefits of an alternate way of life.  Filipinos have a strong desire to work overseas for a reason.  Also, have some sort of a support system 'back home' and maintain and exit strategy.  Lastly, be prepared to play hardball if/when necessary, or at the very least, understand how those games are played.  If you are not that kind of a person then think twice about inserting yourself into an environment where bad things happen.

Ah, whattayaknow, another CDO guy. When I'm at Centrio I like to go to the Army/Navy restaurant and get the Starving Sailor, and sometimes a cheese quesadilla if I'm really hungry. Dunno what kind of cheese it is but its enough to give me my fix. Funny how you can't find decent cheese for less than 1 peso per gram. That's like Hawaii prices.

and everyone should blame Trump LOL

Found some real blue cheese at Centrio today, but it's pretty marginal.  About 1/3 times I've gotten Bukidnon milk at SM it's pretty good.

Actually, I ended up getting a tourist visa. I've been an Official Tourist this whole time, got my i-Card and everything. I get my visa renewed every other month. Its kind of a pain in the ass, especially in CDO -- the immigration office workers aren't very friendly -- I think its a combination of being bureaucrats and muslim   (for reals doe). But you know, I just show up with my photocopies, fill out the form, pay the 1,5, smile and say thank you a lot, and that's that.

I will always be a U.S. citizen, am not giving up my citizenship, because the U.S. passport is one of the most powerful IDs in the world. I need to get mine renewed next year, though, so I'll definitely have to go home for a while then.

I had an American friend who lives in Manila and really tried to become a Philippines citizen. He shelled out like 25,000 or more to make it happen, but it kept on getting delayed, and I don't think his paperwork ever went through. Doesn't sound like its worth it...

Since you already a year and a half and I think you are still using your working visa right?
I want to ask if now, you can live permanently here in the Philippines without needing some documents to process time to time or need some renewal?

And, where is much strict for staying in some country which you are not a citizen there; like when you are from the Philippines and decided to stay and become a citizen of United States or, you are from the United States and decided to stay and become a citizen of the Philippines?

Bought my plane tickets for Cebu today!


Mactan, Lapu Lapu looks quite nice, but a bit expensive. It seems there's a lot of Americans around there. Perhaps once I get settled I can find a better deal around there.


Yeah thats OK, I don't mind Koreans so much. There were a lot that lived in Angeles City. At least they add some decent restaurants to the mix, wherever they are. I kind of miss kimchi.

Canada or Belize.     

Ugh! Who needs an excuse, anyway? Not a digital nomad for sure. 

Here's a tip for a rolling stone like you, if you can't find a nice American sports bar somewhere in your spot in Cebu, Dumaguete City is just a boat away. There's definitely one there.

There is actually a small island that very closed to cebu mainland. It is called as Lapu Lapu City, thats the place where the Iron Man sports is being held every year. You will also not be having huge issues about your internet connection cause its pretty urbanized place.

The only thing in there is that there are a lot of koreans lol. Probably the best thing you can consider there is that it is where the airport of cebu located. But then again it can be a pain in the ass if you will decide to go for a ride in the mainland.


The last place you can consider in cebu is the place they called Balamban. I've been there only twice even tho that place is not known for good beaches the place is really peaceful. Far from the congisted cebu city traffic. And as far as I know they also have a decent internet connection there

The community voted... Not sure why thats an issue on who won

Also, its a pretty bold statement outlining facts and myths... But I understand that its all perspective

3rd world isnt all what its cracked up to be... but you have to take the blinders off

Bruh... You just wrote a stereotypical sig spam post without being in a sig campaign... WTF?? Mindless sig spam checklist:

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2. Quotes the OP in post ☑
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Yes, I work from my computer, so all I really need is a decent internet connection. If no WiFi, then there has to be a Smart or Globe signal around. I don't have a car, but I just remember it being such a pain in the ass to even go a couple of miles in Manila. Maybe I'll look for a place a little outside of Cebu.


I'm really leaning toward Cebu. Its probably safer than Mindanao, so that's a step up. I'll also be more likely to find an American bar or two where I can watch the NFL games as the season is fast approaching. Its a great excuse for drinking in the early afternoon, or morning if one was so inclined.

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We don`t need any other countries imports, we are a self sustaining country.

We plan to move to international waters next, where we will anchor down our islands and become new found land, and not even have to abide by international water laws, because we will be new land masses.

Soon we will have more land than all of the U.N combined.  

The bitcoin society coming to a $lave world near you!

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