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Topic: I'm really leaving the U.S. for a 3rd world country because of politics - page 5. (Read 16000 times)

legendary
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What's the reason that they surrendered their passports? Maybe they like Snowden? I think you need to be a complete idiot to take an American passport. In General, where we have good. We used to see only the America that is shown in movies. We do not see abandoned towns and cities from the trailers.

You should remember that all the American citizens need to pay income tax irrespective of their residential status. So if someone is working in Ireland or Germany, first he needs to pay the local income tax, and then the American federal income tax. This double taxation is creating a lot of problems for the American citizens, and a lot of them are opting to surrender their citizenship.
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It seems to me that to live in third world countries good only when to make money going in America. Moving of America is more of a PR move. I doubt very much that someone to decide on it.

It is not a PR move. In 2016, more than 5,000 people had their American citizenship revoked, and almost all of them gave up their passport voluntarily. In 2015, this number was only around 1,000.
What's the reason that they surrendered their passports? Maybe they like Snowden? I think you need to be a complete idiot to take an American passport. In General, where we have good. We used to see only the America that is shown in movies. We do not see abandoned towns and cities from the trailers.
legendary
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It seems to me that to live in third world countries good only when to make money going in America. Moving of America is more of a PR move. I doubt very much that someone to decide on it.

It is not a PR move. In 2016, more than 5,000 people had their American citizenship revoked, and almost all of them gave up their passport voluntarily. In 2015, this number was only around 1,000.
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It seems to me that to live in third world countries good only when to make money going in America. Moving of America is more of a PR move. I doubt very much that someone to decide on it.
legendary
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If you have the right skills, then you can earn decent amounts of money in the third world nations also.


You can even earn a considerable amount per month, but the problems that these third world countries have makes their money become nothing,

In my country has bumpy roads, has water problems, energy problems and poor quality health system, lack equipment for everything.

Why the hell would someone living in the US come out and live in a country like mine? I would honestly call that person crazy.

I see some American citizens coming to live here and I can not understand why?
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^^^^^ Normal healthy people don't catch MDR-TB from short-duration atmospheric exposure. But if you are living in a slum and has to inhale contaminated air 24x7, then it is a different case. That said, I don't think that the American expats will have to live in slum areas.

I am not sure if that is correct or not.

Although living next to a slum where there is likely a high incidence of infection likely means a higher risk of infection, I don't know if that implies higher risk of MDR-TB strain (as a percentage of infected cases).

The MDR-TB strains are created by those who medicate. Since many people in the slums didn't medicate then maybe you are incorrect.

But seems that in recent decade, the people in the slums are medicating and even not completing their meds, so in that case I think you are correct.

But the fact remains that every year you as a foreigner stay in the Philippines and interact with the people, even if you are not in a slum, you multiply your risk of TB infection by roughly 1.03 - 1.05. So compound that by the number of years you stay here.

E.g. 3 years in the Philippines gives you roughly a 1.033 = 1.093 = 9% risk.

Of course if you get close with people who are coughing, you probably increase your risk significantly.

So you are correct that if you have your own car and don't use taxis, public transportation, live by yourself in upscale apartment or house, and don't hang out in crowded enclosed places such as the mall, then you probably reduce your risk significantly. Taxi drivers are often coughing.
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^^^^^ Normal healthy people don't catch MDR-TB from short-duration atmospheric exposure. But if you are living in a slum and has to inhale contaminated air 24x7, then it is a different case. That said, I don't think that the American expats will have to live in slum areas.
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The idiot Marxist from the global warming thread comes over here to try his luck at putting his foot in his mouth some more...

80% of the people in the Philippines have Tuberculosis which is a very serious illness spread by coughing. You will catch this. I did. You will then need 6 months of medicines and you will never be guaranteed to be cured. You can relapse later in life.

If the TB is multi-drug resistant, you are in big trouble.

http://www.philstar.com/health-and-family/763897/tuberculosis-philippines-10-things-you-should-know

Incidence of Tuberculosis in Philippines is 322 per 100,000 or 0.3% according to the World Bank.

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.TBS.INCD?name_desc=true

Those are active symptomatic TB disease admitted to a hospital for treatment on an annual basis.

It appears to be difficult to get the LTBI rate online, probably because the government does not warn to alarm you idiots about how bad the problem really is. But the doctors have all told me the rate of LTBI is 70 - 80%.

The incidence of latent TB infection is 70 - 80%. Here is one resource that documents the infection rate is 8 to 12 times higher than the smear positive incidence rate:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18235886

Even amongst healthcare workers in the Philippines the LTBI (latent TB) rate was measured at 27%:

http://www.ejbronchology.eg.net/article.asp?issn=1687-8426;year=2015;volume=9;issue=2;spage=183;epage=187;aulast=Abdelghaffar

The following resource says 2.33 billion people have LTBI:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4024230/

Here is a 46% LTBI incidence in a village in China:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4440671/

The 0.3% active annual TB incidence is not unreported active TB prevalence, which is at least double of that and much more likely given how filipino culture favors suffering and not going to hospitals (more so than northern peoples such as those in Laos) that I suspect prevalence much higher probably > 1% a year.

So that means in any given year, the risk of TB infection is greater than 1.2% and relatively speaking it looks like it must be about 3 - 5% on average. Given I have been in the Philippines culmulatively for ~26 years, so my risk of TB infection is virtually the same as the general population thus 70 - 80% incidence of TB infection (not necessary active disease, just infection). And given I did not shield myself from the ~100% endemic TB infection incidence squalor population, my risk of TB infection is about 100% (and I do have TB).

So I hope you see how the 0.3% active annual TB incidence figure from the WHO is so misleading.

In other words in the Philippines, from the pool of an estimated 70 - 80% who are TB positive, roughly 3 - 5% become active and contagious with each year.

Risk of infection from living with a TB patient is greater than 38%. Contact with people from increased poverty increases risk of infection.

The incidence of MDR (multi-drug resistant) TB is very high in the Philippines. This is nasty shit:

MDR-TB IN THE PHILIPPINES: ONE WOMAN’S FIGHT
Mildred Fernando was diagnosed with tuberculosis in her native Philippines nearly 12 years ago, at age 19. We caught up with Mildred after she spoke at a RESULTS event for World TB Day 2013, eager to hear more about her experience with a multidrug-resistant strain of the disease, the help she received from the Global Fund and her courageous, decade-long fight back to health.

Friends: So why don’t we start with a little bit of the history behind your experience with multidrug-resistant tuberculosis (MDR-TB).

Mildred: I was diagnosed to have TB in the year 2001; I was at my last semester in college during that time. I got it from my father. I went to a private doctor for treatment and diagnosis was through x-rays only. So the doctor gave me first line drugs, and then I took them every day. After six months, I wasn’t cured. And then another cycle took place with the same doctor, still using x-rays. My father already had resistance to drugs, but I don’t know why the doctor didn’t intend for me to undergo certain tests.

After five years, the last doctor said that she didn’t have any drugs that she could give to me. So she referred me to the Global Fund-financed Tropical Disease Foundation (TDF). I went there, they had me screened, and then I underwent sputum collection. I finished my treatment after 18 months. During that period I suffered from electrolyte imbalance and drug-induced hepatitis. I had profound hearing loss, especially in my right ear.

In August 2008, I was declared cured. After six months, I went back to TDF for my first post-treatment check-up. And I found out that I relapsed.

Friends: [Oh my God.]

Yeah, it was actually a decade of TB. So I relapsed, and I had to undergo another treatment for 24 months, which was covered by a clinical trial. I was confined in the hospital for six months. I lived in the hospital for six months. I underwent an operation and they put a catheter in my right arm, where one of the injectable drugs is administered twice a day for six months. After six months, I had lung surgery. So part of my right lung was cut out, and after my surgery I continued to do my treatment until I finished my 24 months of treatment.


Click here for a world map of MDR-TB incidence amongst previously treated patients.

Apparently I was mistaken, and the 14% is for MDR in previously treated patients. For new patients, it is 2 - 4%.  Apparently no worse than the USA:

http://openres.ersjournals.com/content/1/1/00010-2015
legendary
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You're leaving the US for the wrong reason. You should be leaving the US because you can earn more money in the US and things are cheaper in the 3rd world country.

If you have the right skills, then you can earn decent amounts of money in the third world nations also. And it is also possible to earn revenues from the US, while residing in a third world nation such as the Philippines or Thailand.
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You're leaving the US for the wrong reason. You should be leaving the US because you can earn more money in the US and things are cheaper in the 3rd world country.

The income-spend arbitrage is huge! And it's a great reason to leave the US.

I'm not kidding, but I also understand the other reasons to leave the US. Politics or whatever, do as you will and don't look back. You're much better than those that threaten to leave and then do not.
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And I know many stories when Russian soldiers raped and pillaged the Germans during world war 2. Or Russian soldiers robbed and raped now in Ukraine? What a Russian General even jailed for the rape of a girl in Chechnya!

There were no Russian soldiers participating in the WW2. There were "Soviet" soldiers. The term "Soviet" includes your country as well (Ukraine). A large part of the rapists were from the Ukrainian SSR.

But the WW2 history is a bit complex. When Nazi Germany invaded the USSR, the Nazis raped millions of Soviet children and women (especially in Belorussian SSR and Ukrainian SSR). Most of the women who were raped by the Nazis were killed soon after. It was ordered by Hitler, and none of the perpetrators were tried fr their crimes (even after the war). When the USSR conquered Germany in 1945, some of the Soviet soldiers went for revenge, raping German women (unfortunately most of them didn't had any connection with the Nazi party). Many of these soldiers were immediately arrested, and executed.
Weird. For some reason I thought you were smarter than that. I like your opinions on this forum, but to write such nonsense... You have disappointed me. Where did you get such statistics? Is not afford even RT.

What I had posted is 100% true. But the mainstream media and the western historians usually ignore these facts. Check these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Rapes_2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Rapes

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Wear a well fitted mask over your mouth and nose while traveling and being exposed to people, especially if you traveling even in South Korea, Asia in general, Russia, Eastern Europe and pretty much any where other than very white affluent areas of the world:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17927248
https://drtbnetwork.org/17-using-xpert-mtbrif-diagnose-mdr-tb
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And I know many stories when Russian soldiers raped and pillaged the Germans during world war 2. Or Russian soldiers robbed and raped now in Ukraine? What a Russian General even jailed for the rape of a girl in Chechnya!

There were no Russian soldiers participating in the WW2. There were "Soviet" soldiers. The term "Soviet" includes your country as well (Ukraine). A large part of the rapists were from the Ukrainian SSR.

But the WW2 history is a bit complex. When Nazi Germany invaded the USSR, the Nazis raped millions of Soviet children and women (especially in Belorussian SSR and Ukrainian SSR). Most of the women who were raped by the Nazis were killed soon after. It was ordered by Hitler, and none of the perpetrators were tried fr their crimes (even after the war). When the USSR conquered Germany in 1945, some of the Soviet soldiers went for revenge, raping German women (unfortunately most of them didn't had any connection with the Nazi party). Many of these soldiers were immediately arrested, and executed.
Weird. For some reason I thought you were smarter than that. I like your opinions on this forum, but to write such nonsense... You have disappointed me. Where did you get such statistics? Is not afford even RT.
legendary
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And I know many stories when Russian soldiers raped and pillaged the Germans during world war 2. Or Russian soldiers robbed and raped now in Ukraine? What a Russian General even jailed for the rape of a girl in Chechnya!

There were no Russian soldiers participating in the WW2. There were "Soviet" soldiers. The term "Soviet" includes your country as well (Ukraine). A large part of the rapists were from the Ukrainian SSR.

But the WW2 history is a bit complex. When Nazi Germany invaded the USSR, the Nazis raped millions of Soviet children and women (especially in Belorussian SSR and Ukrainian SSR). Most of the women who were raped by the Nazis were killed soon after. It was ordered by Hitler, and none of the perpetrators were tried fr their crimes (even after the war). When the USSR conquered Germany in 1945, some of the Soviet soldiers went for revenge, raping German women (unfortunately most of them didn't had any connection with the Nazi party). Many of these soldiers were immediately arrested, and executed.
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Can you show an example of even worse. Kadyrov. He killed Russian soldiers and fought on the side of vakhabites against Russia. Then he was pardoned and received the title of hero of Russia! What country are heroes!!!

There are no permanent enemies in war. For example, during the WW2, 60,000 Italian women (including girls under the age of 10) were raped by Muslim mercenaries from Morocco (employed by the Americans). Ever heard of the term Marocchinate? But that is old story. Morocco and Italy are the best of the friends now.
And I know many stories when Russian soldiers raped and pillaged the Germans during world war 2. Or Russian soldiers robbed and raped now in Ukraine? What a Russian General even jailed for the rape of a girl in Chechnya!
legendary
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Can you show an example of even worse. Kadyrov. He killed Russian soldiers and fought on the side of vakhabites against Russia. Then he was pardoned and received the title of hero of Russia! What country are heroes!!!

There are no permanent enemies in war. For example, during the WW2, 60,000 Italian women (including girls under the age of 10) were raped by Muslim mercenaries from Morocco (employed by the Americans). Ever heard of the term Marocchinate? But that is old story. Morocco and Italy are the best of the friends now.
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You're wrong. Only recently was executed, two members of the Royal family of Saudi Arabia. They killed people. And one of them has committed murder in a brawl. You are in Russia can you give me one such example?

It is a different thing when they are killing someone or attempting a coup. Check this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3290143/Saudi-prince-arrested-two-tonnes-amphetamines-loaded-private-jet-Lebanese-officials-foil-biggest-drug-smuggling-attempt-history.html

Prince Abdel Mohsen Bin Walid Bin Abdulaziz was among those arrested. He was deported to Saudi Arabia, and he was let off with a warning. Apparently, the drugs were ordered by the crown prince.

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950221000235
Can you show an example of even worse. Kadyrov. He killed Russian soldiers and fought on the side of vakhabites against Russia. Then he was pardoned and received the title of hero of Russia! What country are heroes!!!
legendary
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Philippine citizen are very hospitable in terms of welcoming foreign beings like you. However there were also a lot of problems that you can encountered back here. People beside you thinks that you are a very rich person even if not then they would just keep on asking you for money especially on your girlfriends relatives trust me that's the reality back here

That is correct. I highly suggest foreigners watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ6_NZDBnvA

Even the middle class girls don't want you, as they have plenty of pretty boy filipinos to choose from and they prefer their own culture especially at the young age. At any older age, the pretty ones are taken (kids, abroad, etc). If a younger middle class lady is giving you any attention, it is because she is a gold digger but she also has a younger filipino besides you (that isn't her male cousin!).

You will end up with a girl from a poor family and all her relatives (including her 5th cousins) will be pressuring her to extract money from you. She will feel compelled to do it.

And they will give you some fantastic infections and diseases over here also.

And they have no discipline at all and stuff their mouths with junk food continuously. And they are drama queens.

And you will literally have nothing to talk about with each other.

You will get so tired of their smelly food smoldering in your kitchen and the smell throughout your house.

Also they are more jealous than ringworms. Once they think you are theirs, they won't let your breathe. They will investigate your mobile phone, all your social media accounts, and keep track of you every minute of the day.

You are an ATM machine for milking and they own you. You as a person, have no meaning. They don't give a fuck about what you want, think, or your interests.

(they guy in the video did not find out about all these aspects once in a relationship, because he never found a relationship)

They are not on your level in any way, other than sex and smiles.

Philippines is for losers who want prostitutes or are want to pay for a poor girl to be their companion.

Lmao this is true, seen it more often than not, be careful
legendary
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You're wrong. Only recently was executed, two members of the Royal family of Saudi Arabia. They killed people. And one of them has committed murder in a brawl. You are in Russia can you give me one such example?

It is a different thing when they are killing someone or attempting a coup. Check this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3290143/Saudi-prince-arrested-two-tonnes-amphetamines-loaded-private-jet-Lebanese-officials-foil-biggest-drug-smuggling-attempt-history.html

Prince Abdel Mohsen Bin Walid Bin Abdulaziz was among those arrested. He was deported to Saudi Arabia, and he was let off with a warning. Apparently, the drugs were ordered by the crown prince.

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950221000235
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It would be better if you stayed in the US  than go anywhere else. You will not get the freedom to the things you are doing now in the USA. Bear with the politics everything will die down eventually.

There are quite a few libertarian countries out there, such as Switzerland. But then, if you have the money you can do whatever you want in most of the world nations. For example, in the Saudi Arabia, the ruling family members regularly engage in homosexual orgies and drug use, although such activities are punishable by death.

Wow if this is really true then it clearly shows that the upper classes live in a world far behind our own, Where the law is applied only when its favorable to them. They have the highest number of executions and its mainly those who speak against them.

Recently, a Saudi Royal family member was caught while trying to smuggle 3 tons of methamphetamine from Jordan, using his personal helicopter. He was let off after powerful members called the border officials. But if you are a commoner, then even carrying 1 gram of meth can get you a death sentence.
You're wrong. Only recently was executed, two members of the Royal family of Saudi Arabia. They killed people. And one of them has committed murder in a brawl. You are in Russia can you give me one such example?
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