Important announcement from Primedice - page 4.

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Quote from: ShetKid on May 01, 2015, 03:46:20 AM

Quote from: Wendigo on May 01, 2015, 03:29:23 AM

It will not be long until unlicensed bitcoin gambling will be regulated like the fiat sportsbooks. Better be safe than sorry I guess.

If you are actually in a different country than States, then usually there isn't a lot to worry about that. I doubt US would go after 1 such company, as there are more than 20 such companies which have dice. Bitcoin gambling has a very less chance of being regulated, as a company based in Russia can't be regulated by US. Same if for other gambling sites.

Actually I am from Europe and unlicensed fiat books are regulated here like in the USA. The thing is you can visit only the licensed sportsbooks and everything else is filtered. If you got caught you will face years in prison and a big fine.

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Quote from: boopy265420 on April 30, 2015, 04:27:04 AM

What is not clear is this, will players from U.S not be accepted at all ? If people use tor or VPN service to play from U.S what about them. I have read all comments above but didn't find satisfactory answer. This is point to be discussed more clearly.

I've used a VPN to connect to Another unnamed gaming site that blocks US customers, no problems at all. Just saying.

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Quote from: Wendigo on May 01, 2015, 03:29:23 AM

It will not be long until unlicensed bitcoin gambling will be regulated like the fiat sportsbooks. Better be safe than sorry I guess.

If you are actually in a different country than States, then usually there isn't a lot to worry about that. I doubt US would go after 1 such company, as there are more than 20 such companies which have dice. Bitcoin gambling has a very less chance of being regulated, as a company based in Russia can't be regulated by US. Same if for other gambling sites.

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Quote from: ShetKid on May 01, 2015, 03:22:22 AM

Quote from: tonino on May 01, 2015, 01:36:58 AM

Micon lived in Nevada when he was arrested. I don't know where Stunna is residing. but if in the U.S. one could understand his move to exclude U.S. customers.

which other countries are not allowed?

I don't think Micon was ever arrested, but just had his things confiscated. Its almost impossible to know where Stunna is residing, after all he is anonymous with this, and could be anywhere.

Quote from: Outlander on May 01, 2015, 03:10:39 AM

I lived in Indonesia and can't connect to PD either. I guess PD is no longer accepting players from US and moslem countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, and all middle east countries.

From what I heard even Singapore has a strict ban on gambling, so that might be one reason why that country is banned, but not sure why the others would be banned. At the end it doesn't matter, US tries to execute its laws almost in every other country, they giving managed to have Kim Dotcom arrested in NZ.

I heard people mentioning that Stunna is from New Zealand. Whether he still resides there I do not know.

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It will not be long until unlicensed bitcoin gambling will be regulated like the fiat sportsbooks. Better be safe than sorry I guess.

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Quote from: tonino on May 01, 2015, 01:36:58 AM

Micon lived in Nevada when he was arrested. I don't know where Stunna is residing. but if in the U.S. one could understand his move to exclude U.S. customers.

which other countries are not allowed?

I don't think Micon was ever arrested, but just had his things confiscated. Its almost impossible to know where Stunna is residing, after all he is anonymous with this, and could be anywhere.

Quote from: Outlander on May 01, 2015, 03:10:39 AM

I lived in Indonesia and can't connect to PD either. I guess PD is no longer accepting players from US and moslem countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, and all middle east countries.

From what I heard even Singapore has a strict ban on gambling, so that might be one reason why that country is banned, but not sure why the others would be banned. At the end it doesn't matter, US tries to execute its laws almost in every other country, they giving managed to have Kim Dotcom arrested in NZ.

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Im lucky i can still access pd on my country

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Quote from: tonino on May 01, 2015, 02:40:45 AM

Quote from: tampines on May 01, 2015, 01:58:41 AM

Quote from: tonino on May 01, 2015, 01:36:58 AM

which other countries are not allowed?

I thought Indonesia was in the list of restriction countries.
I can't open primedice since yesterday.

so you are from indonesia and can't connect? I couldn't find a list of countries on PD site which countries are not allowed.
does anyone have a link? thanks

I lived in Indonesia and can't connect to PD either. I guess PD is no longer accepting players from US and moslem countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, and all middle east countries.

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Quote from: tonino on May 01, 2015, 02:40:45 AM

Quote from: tampines on May 01, 2015, 01:58:41 AM

Quote from: tonino on May 01, 2015, 01:36:58 AM

which other countries are not allowed?

I thought Indonesia was in the list of restriction countries.
I can't open primedice since yesterday.

so you are from indonesia and can't connect? I couldn't find a list of countries on PD site which countries are not allowed.
does anyone have a link? thanks

Stunna said US and other countries but i wonder why he didnt specify what other countries is restricted

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 01, 2015, 01:47:04 AM

Rumours are that Stunna is from Australia ( I could be wrong ) and its not about residing in US or not because this is more like PrimeDice protecting itself from any issue that might happen in the future.

Moreover perhaps Stunna is concern about what if the US charged him from accepting a deposit from the US players, so that could be why this precautions is taken

I would tend to agree that it is a precautionary measure to ensure that he doesn't face any issues further down the line (seems logical given the US has started becoming more active in targeting Bitcoin ie. Micon). That being said, the way I understand it is that he just needs to ensure that none of the players are from the US to a reasonable extent. So honestly you could quite easily use a VPN and I'd think you'd be fine. It's akin to the idea where fences are in place to prevent people accidentally falling off a cliff - but if you intentionally climb over and jump it isn't government/council responsibility anymore.

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Quote from: tampines on May 01, 2015, 01:58:41 AM

Quote from: tonino on May 01, 2015, 01:36:58 AM

which other countries are not allowed?

I thought Indonesia was in the list of restriction countries.
I can't open primedice since yesterday.

so you are from indonesia and can't connect? I couldn't find a list of countries on PD site which countries are not allowed.
does anyone have a link? thanks

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Quote from: tonino on May 01, 2015, 01:36:58 AM

which other countries are not allowed?

I thought Indonesia was in the list of restriction countries.
I can't open primedice since yesterday.

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Quote from: tonino on May 01, 2015, 01:36:58 AM

Micon lived in Nevada when he was arrested. I don't know where Stunna is residing. but if in the U.S. one could understand his move to exclude U.S. customers.

which other countries are not allowed?

Rumours are that Stunna is from Australia ( I could be wrong ) and its not about residing in US or not because this is more like PrimeDice protecting itself from any issue that might happen in the future .

Moreover perhaps Stunna is concern about what if the US charged him from accepting a deposit from the US players, so that could be why this precautions is taken

The others countries are not mentioned, perhaps it is safe to say that all countries in which online gambling is illegal

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Micon lived in Nevada when he was arrested. I don't know where Stunna is residing. but if in the U.S. one could understand his move to exclude U.S. customers.

which other countries are not allowed?

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Quote from: Stunna on April 30, 2015, 02:52:56 AM

Friends,

Effective immediately Primedice will no longer accept deposits from visitors located within certain jurisdictions including the US. While Primedice is neither operated nor based in the USA, we've chosen to take proactive measures to mitigate long term risk for our users and service. The legal landscape is quickly shifting and we are choosing to completely block deposits from users located in what we've deemed as higher risk jurisdictions.

Primedice does not make use of US currency nor banking, and this block is not recognition that bitcoin gambling is illegal. This decision has been solely based off of discussions between Primedice and our legal counsel.

I know this news will disappoint many of you, however we're strong believers in Bitcoin and are playing defensively to secure our long term position at the top of this rapidly growing industry. We're confident that every major online casino will accept Bitcoin within the next five years and we're determined to compete directly with them by continuing to create new disruptive experiences. We've been lucky enough to see the transformative power of Bitcoin with regards to gambling from a first hand perspective and are confident this is the right decision moving forward.

Thank You,

Primedice Team

Must be disappointing for you guys but it's totally the right thing to do.
You have to cover your asses.
Feds/regulators/enforcers are so annoying when all you're trying to do is run a business in the right way.

Keep going guys, stay strong.

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It's sad news for Americans
sites mangers are getting afraid after Micon's case

but I think when the owner is anonymous everything will be ok Huh

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Quote from: galbros on April 30, 2015, 04:17:51 PM

This is really sad news. While there are work arounds anything that makes it harder for people to enjoy their bitcoin hurts the ecosystem. Given that almost every US state has a lottery with a 50% or so house edge the US stance on online gambling is a little hypocritical.

What happened to Micron?

Micon was yesterday charged for running an illegal unlicensed casino or poker room .
http://www.bluff.com/news/bryan-micon-charged-with-class-b-felony-arrest-warrant-issued-65333/

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This is really sad news. While there are work arounds anything that makes it harder for people to enjoy their bitcoin hurts the ecosystem. Given that almost every US state has a lottery with a 50% or so house edge the US stance on online gambling is a little hypocritical.

What happened to Micron?

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Quote from: darkangel11 on April 30, 2015, 12:08:55 PM

Quote from: ABCbits on April 30, 2015, 11:50:05 AM

I think very soon, other bitcoin gambling might make the same decision too Sad

free VPN might stole your data & hacker could hack your account easily using TOR Sad

luckily, i'm not in US

They called America the land of freedom, yet you can't gamble. It's bad, says Uncle Sam, you just can't play with money it's a serious matter!

You can gamble... This is more about primedice protecting primedice, not the players.

Btw, name some other non third world countries where any random person can legally set up shop.

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