Yeah real stand up guy. Doesn't care that he mines bitcoins, no conflict there. I just figured he wasn't buying a monarch because they wont ever exist.
[11:15 PM] jmanjes : Josh how many monarchs are you buying?
[11:15 PM] RockyRacoon : Is there an expected date on which all "backorders" will be fulfilled?
[11:15 PM] John Dow : 51%
[11:15 PM] BFL_Josh : None personally... too much conflict of interest.
Topic: In their defense, BF Labs Inc. has excellent Customer Service. - page 4. (Read 7542 times)
an idiot, moron
you should be happy that you are still not arrested for fraud instead of bitching to other forum members.
And why is that? No fraud has been committed, so why would there be arrests made? Your little fantasy land doesn't apply to reality, sorry.
Out of curiosity, what would you consider 'fraud'... or what is your definition of fraud? Sometimes people on here seem to have their own interpretations, just curious what yours is.
I am going based off of:
Definition(s) of fraud:
http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=785
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fraud
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the intentional use of deceit, a trick or some dishonest means to deprive another of his/her/its money, property or a legal right.
EDIT: There are plenty of accusations that scream 'fraud'... not sure what is provable at this point, but if there is fraud being committed, it will be 'fully' proven soon enough.
That definition looks about right. Angry little monkies like PL, PG, K9, etc... might like you to believe that's happened, but as of yet they've not shown a shred of proof to back up their claims. Most everyone has given up on them ever providing proof, since none exists, so we are just left with a giant circle jerk of the anti-BFL crowd patting each other on the backs in every thread about how awesome they are and how they are doing a service to the community, while everyone basically ignores what they have to say.
So, unless you've got some proof fraud has been committed, you should probably move along. However, if you do have some proof, by all means send it to someone who cares, like the police or something. If the scale of fraud and illegal acts PG, PL, K9, etc... would have you believe were actually true, don't you think some governmental agency would have contacted us by now? Occams razor would seem to dictate that PG and crew are liars, since all their claims of fraud have gone unanswered by the people who actually know what fraud is.
I just hate it when Bloomberg lies to us: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-12/n-y-regulator-subpoenas-firms-over-bitcoin-crime-risks.html
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Butterfly Labs, a technology company, also received a subpoena, according to the person familiar with the matter.
Moreover, you lying piece of shit, for I just happened to have first-hand knowledge that at least two governmental agency have contacted BF Labs Inc., hence further exposing everything I possibly can about BFL so that others are not hurt financially.
And if you are going to reply to this post, make sure you include a statement about the FCC certification process you promised us over 10 months ago, along with telling us who was the Sonny K. guy you first met at Butterfly Labs.
an idiot, moron
you should be happy that you are still not arrested for fraud instead of bitching to other forum members.
And why is that? No fraud has been committed, so why would there be arrests made? Your little fantasy land doesn't apply to reality, sorry.
I'll let my lawyer be the judge of that. He likes the reality version of reality, not yours.
I'm sure your lawyer is having a good time with Xians', laughing at you guys while they take your money and whisper soothing words in your ear.
No, he's having a good time watching you self-incriminate.
Ooo look, the little trolls are are riled up. Awesome 
The waaambulance is busy today!
The waaambulance is busy today!
Pirateat40 thought he got away with his fraud too.
Order a Monarch today and BFL will tell you it will arrive in Nov of 2013.
As soon as BFL gets your money, they tell you Feb 2014.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/4430-lifetime-warranty-expires-65nm-parts-once-monarch-ships.html
Ooo look, the little trolls are are riled up. Awesome
The waaambulance is busy today!
The waaambulance is busy today!
Pirateat40 thought he got away with his fraud too.
Order a Monarch today and BFL will tell you it will arrive in Nov of 2013.
As soon as BFL gets your money, they tell you Feb 2014.
Q: Why "Inaba" isn't banned already for scamming people around here for continuous things like "Two more weeks (TM)" and insulting people that are his customers ?
A: Because he's given too much advertising revenue to the forum administrators.
Have you seen his current bids, 11BTC, why so desperate to advertise to a forum of mounmental assholes josh ?
Free ad to help you out in my sig. Your welcome
Ooo look, the little trolls are are riled up. Awesome
The waaambulance is busy today!
The waaambulance is busy today!
The fact that you find perverse pleasure in this, while continually skirting legitimate questions and concerns, while putting on a sock-puppet-show, should illustrate to your prospective customers everything they need to know about why not to deal with Butterfly Labs.
Tick tock.
Ooo look, the little trolls are are riled up. Awesome
The waaambulance is busy today!
The waaambulance is busy today!
Interesting that Josh would give the accusation this much attention, how many posts is that of his in this thread?
True and most of it seemed to be concerned with proof of fraud or attorneys. He knows or is worried about what's coming. I threw a quick message out in the shoutbox yesterday asking who might be intertested in launching a class action action against BFL, sort of a tentative feeler: banned for trolling within 2 minutes. I also tried to start a thread about it as well: never got published. Anyway, I'll just wait for word back from attorneys and see what happens.
LOL I saw you there, after they banned you Josh (in typical style) called said you were Fukt from "bitcointroll".
I should have never trusted Inaba, such a douche bag-hitler
No, that confirms that you're an idiot. It also confirms there is an "edit shout" button in the shoutbox.
But I wouldn't expect you to understand simple concepts like an "edit" button or anything, since advanced concepts like general understanding of the world around you are so far beyond you as to be laughable. By all means, continue to show what a moron you are.
But I wouldn't expect you to understand simple concepts like an "edit" button or anything, since advanced concepts like general understanding of the world around you are so far beyond you as to be laughable. By all means, continue to show what a moron you are.
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BFL_Josh : I think I hit hte wrong key when I was replying and it sent as him... not sure how that's possible
Really? An edit shout button? The button you supposedly didn't know existed until after you had to explain your sock puppetry?
First a 2 month delay in Monarch 3 days after you announce it, then you get caught with a sock puppet.
Inaba didn't adequately explain this.
Instead he chased the tires of the fraud-mobile.
Interesting that Josh would give the accusation this much attention, how many posts is that of his in this thread?
True and most of it seemed to be concerned with proof of fraud or attorneys. He knows or is worried about what's coming. I threw a quick message out in the shoutbox yesterday asking who might be intertested in launching a class action action against BFL, sort of a tentative feeler: banned for trolling within 2 minutes. I also tried to start a thread about it as well: never got published. Anyway, I'll just wait for word back from attorneys and see what happens.
Because of all of this shit I'm getting close to start a flaming BFL thread which (I hope so) would prevent potencional customers from buying from bfl and losing their money. We should have sticked thread about that. Even people from this forum are considering purchase from this joke-company of their new "monarch" delivery-scam-product. Imagine how many are not related with this community and willing to buy like white sheeps. Scam with white glovers, BFL's speciality. Still can't fucking believe.
From August + 90 days = November 2013 (what a coincidence!)
From November + 90 days = February 2014 (Uh Oh. Does anyone see the coincidences?)
Whats the story that you folks can infer from this?
From November + 90 days = February 2014 (Uh Oh. Does anyone see the coincidences?)
Whats the story that you folks can infer from this?
Interesting that Josh would give the accusation this much attention, how many posts is that of his in this thread?
If K9 were paid,
He would ask:
What is the ROI like in February 2014?
(Yikes, don't do that!)
He would ask:
What is the ROI like in February 2014?
(Yikes, don't do that!)
That is actually just outside my model. I don't project any further than 6 months ahead. Also, the probability that BFL will actually ship by February is very small given that just 3 days after announcing, they had to delay the product delivery from November 2013 to February 2014.
Facts: Tapeout in August 2013. Right?
Facts: Low nm parts usually have more layers than high nm parts. Avalon @ 110nm had 29 layers, BFL's 65nm parts had many more. (Each layer takes about 1 day to deposit...hence, the long turn around times)
Question: If BFL is using a 28nm part for Gen2, then how many days does it take for the samples to go through various stages of packaging to figure out if they need to make corrections to the first batch? (Clock buffers anyone?)
If a 28nm part probably takes 90 days....then is BFL betting on November/December being right the first time? Did they really learn from their mistakes?
Does anyone see where I am going with this?
Q: Why "Inaba" isn't banned already for scamming people around here for continuous things like "Two more weeks (TM)" and insulting people that are his customers ?
A: Because he's given too much advertising revenue to the forum administrators.
I can't fucking believe. Why "Inaba" isn't banned already for scamming people around here for continuous things like "Two more weeks (TM)" and insulting people that are his customers ? Delivering ASICs after a year? Talking shit on his customers? I mean c'mon! A company in real world would fire him shortly. It means that BFL is a joke. Why you people can't skip BFL? They are shit. Those are facts. You will never see a ROI with their delivery time unless you find an idiot who pays for you pre-order or pays too much for a device in hand if you are lucky enough to be first in a queue.
NEVER BUY FROM BFL. PERIOD.
NEVER BUY FROM BFL. PERIOD.
because he paid theymos with sweet bitcoins.
Q: Why "Inaba" isn't banned already for scamming people around here for continuous things like "Two more weeks (TM)" and insulting people that are his customers ?
A: Because he's given too much advertising revenue to the forum administrators.
hold on hold on.
3 days = 3 months of delay
if "the end of the year" is (...or was) the scheduled shipping date, it will be pushed back at least 90 days.
90 days = 90 months.
BFL monarch will be shipped out in 2020.
huh, that sounds kinda right.
3 days = 3 months of delay
if "the end of the year" is (...or was) the scheduled shipping date, it will be pushed back at least 90 days.
90 days = 90 months.
BFL monarch will be shipped out in 2020.
huh, that sounds kinda right.
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