PPY54013232C
I think that 1323 is the date code that would mean 2013 week 23.
I think that 1323 is the date code that would mean 2013 week 23.
That makes more sense to me.
http://www.vercalendario.info/en/print-week-23-2013.html
Topic: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 - page 18. (Read 186795 times)
That makes more sense to me.
http://www.vercalendario.info/en/print-week-23-2013.html
PPY54013232C
I think that 1323 is the date code that would mean 2013 week 23.
That would say manufactured June 3 to June 9.
I think that 1323 is the date code that would mean 2013 week 23.
That would say manufactured June 3 to June 9.
I'm saying people are citing this theory as fact, when we don't actually know what is happening at all. The real problem at this moment is a lack of full information. We don't know if there was a second batch or not. What if a first batch was contracted privately before the chips were offered to group buys? We don't know. I'm just asking people not state as fact what they don't know. Some people read this and assume the crazytalk is well researched analysis. It's misleading and it isn't helpful.
Again, occam's razor. Saying you know nothing is bullshit. You should have at least the simpliest theory that explains it to go from. Sadly, there's none that make sense that account for what we are seeing AND paint avalon in a good light
Why the fuck did Avalon splinter while chips were being delivered? Custom's doesn't explain that
I have an Avalon chip that has A3256-Q48 designated on it. Does that tell us anything?
If that is the case and you want to try an experiment use a pencil eraser to rub the top of the chip and see if more marking are reviled under the top coat.
It might take a few minuets of rubbing to see a result.
Funny, doubt they would remark it if the chip says it was made CW32. They'd actually want to cover that fact up.
Is this a sample chip with CW32 datemark? That's pretty damning evidence right there, either they ordered them on time, and something happened to the chips, or they waited a long ass time to order.
I bought one of the modules from this event:
I plugged it in yesterday, had a little trouble with the USB not being connected, but after a few times taking it apart and putting it back again, I got it working. It ran great all last night and this morning. When I got back after a meeting, this is what I found:
I got my microscope out and read the numbers on one of the chips. The interpretation that the chip was manufactured during week 32, and that the module I have is from Luke's damaged Avalon, says that the Avalon was in Tennessee on Wed of the week that the chips were manufactured. This doesn't fit together tight enough for me.
I'm saying people are citing this theory as fact, when we don't actually know what is happening at all. The real problem at this moment is a lack of full information. We don't know if there was a second batch or not. What if a first batch was contracted privately before the chips were offered to group buys? We don't know. I'm just asking people not state as fact what they don't know. Some people read this and assume the crazytalk is well researched analysis. It's misleading and it isn't helpful.
Again, occam's razor. Saying you know nothing is bullshit. You should have at least the simpliest theory that explains it to go from. Sadly, there's none that make sense that account for what we are seeing AND paint avalon in a good light
Why the fuck did Avalon splinter while chips were being delivered? Custom's doesn't explain that
I have an Avalon chip that has A3256-Q48 designated on it. Does that tell us anything?
If that is the case and you want to try an experiment use a pencil eraser to rub the top of the chip and see if more marking are reviled under the top coat.
It might take a few minuets of rubbing to see a result.
Funny, doubt they would remark it if the chip says it was made CW32. They'd actually want to cover that fact up.
Is this a sample chip with CW32 datemark? That's pretty damning evidence right there, either they ordered them on time, and something happened to the chips, or they waited a long ass time to order.
I'm saying people are citing this theory as fact, when we don't actually know what is happening at all. The real problem at this moment is a lack of full information. We don't know if there was a second batch or not. What if a first batch was contracted privately before the chips were offered to group buys? We don't know. I'm just asking people not state as fact what they don't know. Some people read this and assume the crazytalk is well researched analysis. It's misleading and it isn't helpful.
Again, occam's razor. Saying you know nothing is bullshit. You should have at least the simpliest theory that explains it to go from. Sadly, there's none that make sense that account for what we are seeing AND paint avalon in a good light
Why the fuck did Avalon splinter while chips were being delivered? Custom's doesn't explain that
I have an Avalon chip that has A3256-Q48 designated on it. Does that tell us anything?
If that is the case and you want to try an experiment use a pencil eraser to rub the top of the chip and see if more marking are reviled under the top coat.
It might take a few minuets of rubbing to see a result.
Edit: Never mind show have read reply before posting this.
Week 32 is the week that started on August 5th, so that chip is somewhere between 18 and 25 days old.
It tells us it's an Avalon chip.
The -Q48 is the package type. 48 lead QFN package.
Usually there are additional marking for the year and week of manufacture.
The -Q48 is the package type. 48 lead QFN package.
Usually there are additional marking for the year and week of manufacture.
The bottom line reads PPY54013232C
manufactured in calendar week 32
edit: it is actually week 23.
I just found this in another thread. It seems to document that one batch of Avalon chips was actually in customs for 60 days or so.
Ok everybody, as promised, I have an update on the Avalon chips shipment status. I just got off the phone with Gary, the account manager for this particular case and this is exactly what he told me:
This shipment has been on hold by US Customs in New York since June 12th. He said that these are extremely extenuating circumstances because the most shipments ever get held up by Customs is about 30 days, so this is WAY past that. He also mentioned that US Customs has been non-cooperative when it comes to conveying any communication on the status of this case. So Gary and his company, they're all having a special meeting next Wednesday together with the Director of the US Customs of New York.
So we should have more information late Wednesday night. I will update you as soon as I get briefed on the matter.
Hope this helps shed a little more light on this unfortunate incident.
This shipment has been on hold by US Customs in New York since June 12th. He said that these are extremely extenuating circumstances because the most shipments ever get held up by Customs is about 30 days, so this is WAY past that. He also mentioned that US Customs has been non-cooperative when it comes to conveying any communication on the status of this case. So Gary and his company, they're all having a special meeting next Wednesday together with the Director of the US Customs of New York.
So we should have more information late Wednesday night. I will update you as soon as I get briefed on the matter.
Hope this helps shed a little more light on this unfortunate incident.
This is ragingazn628's group buy. The chips in question are sample chips. And they were held up in NY customs. And we still don't have those chips.
Not a very good example, ragingazn628 has been very sketchy the whole time.
No other group buy had issues with sample chips. They arrived prompty without any issues at customs.
and ofc Yifu deciding to make refunds instantly after this pictures came out is just a coincidence
EDIT: sorry, I forgot... It was bad for his chi
EDIT: sorry, I forgot... It was bad for his chi
What picture?
It tells us it's an Avalon chip.
The -Q48 is the package type. 48 lead QFN package.
Usually there are additional marking for the year and week of manufacture.
The -Q48 is the package type. 48 lead QFN package.
Usually there are additional marking for the year and week of manufacture.
The bottom line reads PPY54013232C
I just found this in another thread. It seems to document that one batch of Avalon chips was actually in customs for 60 days or so.
Ok everybody, as promised, I have an update on the Avalon chips shipment status. I just got off the phone with Gary, the account manager for this particular case and this is exactly what he told me:
This shipment has been on hold by US Customs in New York since June 12th. He said that these are extremely extenuating circumstances because the most shipments ever get held up by Customs is about 30 days, so this is WAY past that. He also mentioned that US Customs has been non-cooperative when it comes to conveying any communication on the status of this case. So Gary and his company, they're all having a special meeting next Wednesday together with the Director of the US Customs of New York.
So we should have more information late Wednesday night. I will update you as soon as I get briefed on the matter.
Hope this helps shed a little more light on this unfortunate incident.
This shipment has been on hold by US Customs in New York since June 12th. He said that these are extremely extenuating circumstances because the most shipments ever get held up by Customs is about 30 days, so this is WAY past that. He also mentioned that US Customs has been non-cooperative when it comes to conveying any communication on the status of this case. So Gary and his company, they're all having a special meeting next Wednesday together with the Director of the US Customs of New York.
So we should have more information late Wednesday night. I will update you as soon as I get briefed on the matter.
Hope this helps shed a little more light on this unfortunate incident.
This is ragingazn628's group buy. The chips in question are sample chips. And they were held up in NY customs. And we still don't have those chips.
I just found this in another thread. It seems to document that one batch of Avalon chips was actually in customs for 60 days or so.
Ok everybody, as promised, I have an update on the Avalon chips shipment status. I just got off the phone with Gary, the account manager for this particular case and this is exactly what he told me:
This shipment has been on hold by US Customs in New York since June 12th. He said that these are extremely extenuating circumstances because the most shipments ever get held up by Customs is about 30 days, so this is WAY past that. He also mentioned that US Customs has been non-cooperative when it comes to conveying any communication on the status of this case. So Gary and his company, they're all having a special meeting next Wednesday together with the Director of the US Customs of New York.
So we should have more information late Wednesday night. I will update you as soon as I get briefed on the matter.
Hope this helps shed a little more light on this unfortunate incident.
This shipment has been on hold by US Customs in New York since June 12th. He said that these are extremely extenuating circumstances because the most shipments ever get held up by Customs is about 30 days, so this is WAY past that. He also mentioned that US Customs has been non-cooperative when it comes to conveying any communication on the status of this case. So Gary and his company, they're all having a special meeting next Wednesday together with the Director of the US Customs of New York.
So we should have more information late Wednesday night. I will update you as soon as I get briefed on the matter.
Hope this helps shed a little more light on this unfortunate incident.
and ofc Yifu deciding to make refunds instantly after this pictures came out is just a coincidence
EDIT: sorry, I forgot... It was bad for his chi
EDIT: sorry, I forgot... It was bad for his chi
It tells us it's an Avalon chip.
The -Q48 is the package type. 48 lead QFN package.
Usually there are additional marking for the year and week of manufacture.
The -Q48 is the package type. 48 lead QFN package.
Usually there are additional marking for the year and week of manufacture.
I'm saying people are citing this theory as fact, when we don't actually know what is happening at all. The real problem at this moment is a lack of full information. We don't know if there was a second batch or not. What if a first batch was contracted privately before the chips were offered to group buys? We don't know. I'm just asking people not state as fact what they don't know. Some people read this and assume the crazytalk is well researched analysis. It's misleading and it isn't helpful.
Again, occam's razor. Saying you know nothing is bullshit. You should have at least the simpliest theory that explains it to go from. Sadly, there's none that make sense that account for what we are seeing AND paint avalon in a good light
Why the fuck did Avalon splinter while chips were being delivered? Custom's doesn't explain that
I have an Avalon chip that has A3256-Q48 designated on it. Does that tell us anything?
Maybe, it could be a part number, a batch number, etc. Obviously not as simple as a date code, the Q48 is because it's a QFN 48 pin.
Avalon may be going out of their way to remove/hide this data if it would be there otherwise as well.
A good comparison would be sample chips vs arrived chips. Anything different? Avalon said the sample chips were supposed to be 4 weeks into the order.. so we'd have expected to see the full chips 6 weeks later.
I'm saying people are citing this theory as fact, when we don't actually know what is happening at all. The real problem at this moment is a lack of full information. We don't know if there was a second batch or not. What if a first batch was contracted privately before the chips were offered to group buys? We don't know. I'm just asking people not state as fact what they don't know. Some people read this and assume the crazytalk is well researched analysis. It's misleading and it isn't helpful.
Again, occam's razor. Saying you know nothing is bullshit. You should have at least the simpliest theory that explains it to go from. Sadly, there's none that make sense that account for what we are seeing AND paint avalon in a good light
Why the fuck did Avalon splinter while chips were being delivered? Custom's doesn't explain that
I have an Avalon chip that has A3256-Q48 designated on it. Does that tell us anything?
Agreed. Shit sucks. I just don't see the point of all the anger and beating of chests and knashing of teeth. We're still playing this out; it's not over yet.
Part of the point is that it only appears that when people start to get really pissed off here does Yifu sign on and start to do something. It has happened twice now. His MO is the same: offer a bone to people (in the last case Avalon 3 refunds which he "thought" were already given) or some false glimmer of hope that orders are about to ship, then he disappears into the wilderness again and waits for the pot to boil over before coming back. He needs to get his shit together, and he needs to do it fast. We are all sick and tired of it and I think he underestimates what he is against here. He didn't just scam someone on ebay out of few hundred dollars here. This is hundreds of people and millions of dollars. There *will be* repercussions, and the longer he waits the more severe they will be. Those are the facts.This I can agree with.
It's all of what look to be lies, and fairly transparent ones, that really bother me.
You always run the risk of losing everything you invest in anything related to crytpocurrencies.
You always run the risk of losing everything you invest in anything related to crytpocurrencies.
Agreed. Shit sucks. I just don't see the point of all the anger and beating of chests and knashing of teeth. We're still playing this out; it's not over yet.
Part of the point is that it only appears that when people start to get really pissed off here does Yifu sign on and start to do something. It has happened three times now. His MO is the same: offer a bone to people (in the last case Avalon 3 refunds which he "thought" were already given) or some false glimmer of hope that orders are about to ship, then he disappears into the wilderness again and waits for the pot to boil over before coming back. He needs to get his shit together, and he needs to do it fast. We are all sick and tired of it and I think he underestimates what he is against here. He didn't just scam someone on ebay out of few hundred dollars here. This is hundreds of people and millions of dollars. There *will be* repercussions, and the longer he waits the more severe they will be. Those are the facts.
Agreed. Shit sucks. I just don't see the point of all the anger and beating of chests and knashing of teeth. We're still playing this out; it's not over yet.
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