Topic: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 - page 21. (Read 186657 times)

+1 Hundred Million

.)) you kidding me chinese kid, right? maybe you are just stupid or completely lost your mind, bud please let me remind you your funny page:


source: http://store.avalon-asics.com/?page_id=9605

so, as you can see, there was a deal and you simply breach one of points defined by you..and now, after couple of weeks of delay, you have a courage to post something about greed? omfg, refund everybody and go away..

ABANDON SHIP!!!!

He has conclusively secured a future where those words are going to be Royally rammed, right back down his throat, where ever he shows his sorry arse.

I can see the T-Shirts now...... YIFU - Yes I Fucked Up

Been waiting since August 5th for 10K lot refund ticket to be answered Sam just wanted to give you a heads up maybe others have posted tickets and have been waiting longer than us via the support ticket system for a reply. I update it weekly will add additional notes or information just for the sake future suits that might be required for example Zefirs thread and the reply from Yifu. I wish you and your group luck.

Wow man. I thought you were a level headed guy at the bitcoin conference.

But that statement takes the cake.

QUESTION: Who stood to benefit the most from AVALON chip and rig sales?

ANSWER: You and your team.

I've had frequent PMs with Seb Ju and Bicknellski and can confirm they have bee very proactive with respect to the handling of the situation.

Zefir and Steamboat have both been exemplorary with their communication.

Unfortunately they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Either they show vocal distain like many of their group buy customers and risk aggrivating Yifu's 'chi', resulting in a complete wall of silence for weeks on end, which is totally insane. He is behaving like a prima donna.

Bitsyncom's handling of both communication and funds has been appauling at best, fraudulant at worst, but the aforementioned group buy leaders want full refunds as much as anyone else, for the most part they are the largest private purchasers within their own group buys themselves.

Tip-toeing on eggshells springs to mind.

Whilst you do appear to serve some limited purpose in reminding people to be cautious eve, this situation requires a little more tact, than baseless accusations upon individuals that have been forced into a situation I think we could all pretty much agree they wulfd rather not be experiencing. So with all due respect, back off the group buy organisers.

No chip order received refunds.
The whole thing started when, yesterday, right?
Leave ZEfir, Sebastian and the others alone (at this point), or you will look foolish.

Ente

I thought of this  



As said before,if more companies were "straight shooters",we wouldn't be in this mess,over & over.....  

You know what I think MOST of us posting are trying to do the right thing and that to me is professional and genuine... gullible is also another adjective for us as well unfortunately we believed and really should have listened to the Batch 1 to 3 people and their issues rather than simply assuming those damn chips being delivered would be a cakewalk.

You really really really like me.

Escrow I always use JohnK... our whole COOP was "escrow" for the customer BTC but that was part of the delay dealing with 3 different nationals to get all the refunds out to our customers.

Also let me clarify how our group buy and K1 sales are different than others:

The cooperative to which we belong purchased 10K chip lot from Avalon. I handled the coins and paid Avalon. We then were going to take our chips and fabricate all into K1s and have our special 50 Port Hub work as a board so we could do density mining and sell off whatever else the market wanted. We pre-sold the K1s knowing our coop members had already promised to cover the costs of production of each and everyone of the K1s. So those who bought from us through our store were protected against such an event no matter how many units they bought 1 or 10 or 10,000. By the last week of July we were still waiting on the earlier chip buys and we were still trying to source a few parts but had the fabrication ready to roll in a 1 week window as soon as we had all our components enough for 11K of Klondike Nanos. But given that no chips had arrived and the developer chips were 3 weeks late we just made the sane choice and on August 5th we asked for a refund via support ticket. We informed BKKCoins soon after as we were still hoping to pass along $11K in royalties... that is the sad part of the whole story.

We refunded everyone who prepaid for the K1s from our store but we are still waiting to refund our own members for the Avalon chips. 25 days still no reply from Avalon and that is where I want a reply soon or we release the Legal Kracken.

Hi Yifu, any chance of refunding my order 6997? Thanks 

What is your problem eve ?

Zefir probably got the ball rolling with the refunds, read his thread.
Other GB starters have also said enough in their thread about it.

Go read! Instead of annoying people with your constant negativity.

Yifu,

You are refunding unfulfilled Batch 3 system orders. That is good.

Pease do not make decisions based on emotion, especially one based on the emotion of anger. I can see you are very upset about what you read here. I would look at every post that is driven by emotion as just noise, because it is. Every human being tends to make a lot of noise when angry.

There are some messages that are good for your chi, this is one of them. I am rooting for you because you have started so well in this business, and I hate to see you fail just because you would have made a couple more emotional decisions.

Most people who post messages here will accuse me of being a shill. I am definitely not. This message is intended to cheer somebody who is emotionally down. He has accomplished a great thing (being the first to market with a mining ASIC chip), and his own customers are accusing him of dishonesty. Nothing can crush an achiever's ego more than that.

Yifu, somewhere along the way you or your team have made a bad decision or two that caused the delays. Some people here advise you to be honest and tell us exactly what happened. That is good advice. The complainers will complain no matter what you do, so you might as well please those who are on your side, by following their advice.

I believe you are still ahead of the game. You can correct your course and start pleasing your customers again. I have no doubt you will be successful.

To those who think "he's got our money and that's all he cares about", I say you do not fully understand our need for group acceptance. You think that way because of your own failings, and you are simply projecting your attitude onto others.

Will the group for razingbull, zefir, sebastian, steamboat and a few of the others please acknowledge when they received the Full refund from Yifu please posts your comments here? When could we get these Full Refund?

They all seems to stay very quiet in here. When they need the group buy Wow they are highly Active promoting their group buy. But when time to get a refund most of them are very low key.

Have they received the refund from Yifu?

I have received a refund on 8/29/2013 for the full amount in BTC.

Thanks Yifu.

I'm not part of his group, but have crossed a few paths with him throughout this chip ordeal, but ya got to hand it to the guy, Bicknellski is so professional and genuine. We need more like him in this community, as he certainly raises the bar for the rest of us.  

Ok found it , yes he is 1 cool guy. More will buy things from him in the future and some may asked him to be their escrow guy

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Re: [REFUNDS PROCESSING] K1 Nanos - Big Picture Mining Cooperative
August 22, 2013, 02:54:25 PM
   
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Quote from: bigbeninlondon on August 22, 2013, 02:48:36 PM
Hey Bicknellski,

Are you getting any of the white K1 Nanos?  I'd be interested in purchasing one just for the LOLz.

Wish I could... I am more concerned with getting our chips refunded at the moment and that to our group is priority 1 right now.

Those look sweet actually I might buy some K1s later for students to use to learn about Bitcoin / Altcoins.

Bicknellski refunded everyone in his group:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/refund-processing-completed-k1-nanos-big-picture-mining-cooperative-251831