Topic: Increase in cost of running the family (Read 748 times)

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I think all my friends feel it too now. All the conversations now include some news about fuel, utility bills or some other things which got more expensive.
Friends of mine, who where doing good over the last couple of years discuss that they not gonna make any presents this year (or limit the expenses on those significantly) , some are even contacting afterpay here in order to get some financial help. Our times are difficult.

The issue is not really having large family. The issue is having children or family members that are not fruitful or sufficiently beneficial to the family.
If humans are happy to have their domestic animals multiply or increase in number why not be happy with increasing family size? Typically, animals may be sold for profit, produce milks/eggs that could be used/sold, or use for food thereby bringing in more income or saving more money that would have gone into buying milk/egg/meat for the family's protein needs. In this case the animals is profitable, fruitful or beneficial to the family... depending on how much they consume. Human members of family should be groomed and nurtured to be profitable to the family in similar manner. If you want to know those that are actually profitable to your family, note how much they cost you to maintain(like feeding, education, clothing etc) and how much they contribute to the family. Simple formula for this is, how much a family member contributes/produces minus (—) how much the family member consumes = profitability. Production greater than (>) Consumption = Profit. Consumption > than production = loss . The contributions can either be financial or direct problem solving(without creating more problems). The consumption can either be be financial or direct usage of things produced by our CREATOR or others

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Try and run your family like a country. Train your children to be more productive and useful for the family. Identify the talents or roles each member is better at serving. Put them where they belong and use that to run the family profitably. The family could eventually multiply to become a village, from village to town then to a country. If your family isn't well trained they will definitely not be sustainable to run.

yes that's absolutely true and I've felt it myself.
Before I got married and didn't have a child, I found it difficult to get a better economy and it was very difficult to make money.
but after I got married and had 2 twins I felt like I was given a gift from God. because after the birth of my child there was always a way to earn more money and after my child was born my business became bigger and I felt that whatever I did to buy milk for my child was successful and I always made a profit.

so it's true that children are like bringing gifts that fall from the sky

Your God will give you nothing unless you start working and stop complaining.
Because in the first place, you wanted that child assuming that you can raise him with your mental, physical, and financial capacities. I knew a lot of people who had like 5 children and are only earning around $250 a month but haven't heard them complaining about having too many children.  Instead, they only complained about having lack of work available so they can have a side hustle.

It's true that its a lot more than what it used to be, but so is our salaries as well just not enough. Maybe what you can do with 100 dollars back in the day could end up costing you 1000 dollars today, that's true, but your salary was 1000 dollars and now its 7000 dollars instead.

As you can see its not the same increase, so it is still a trouble but you still do earn more. What we need to figure out is how to stop the whole wealth to condense into a few names, if we do not have this many billionaires, then we wouldn't need this many people having a trouble. I always say that there should not be any billionaires in the world, that would save the problem for good, without a doubt.

Not sure how about the norms or culture in different countries, but I heard that some people just really leave their offspring while they are still an infant to an orphanage just because they can't financially handle a complete family.
From your quote, I am pretty sure s/he meant about family planning from what can your income can manage. I would not want my future offsprings to live a horrible life if I am going to be broke or worse, an unemployed human being.

I hope your friend is given patience and abundant fortune. Having a family is not as easy as it looks, everyone has their own tests.

maybe your friend is being tested with patience then someday God will give him ease.

This is something uncontrollable even if the government would really be imposing some family planning program or something that connects out for some education about having a family.
It would always boils down or falls down to those couple itself whether they are really that legally married or not.This had become a problem and this do usually exist on 3rd world
countries on which population explosion is really that common.This is something that the main reason on why poverty do becomes even more worst.
As an individual then it is really just that right that you should mind on how to take control.Raising up a family is never been a joke.You would need to do
work  hard as much as you could for you to give them a good life.

Their fortune will depend on their parents although god has also a plan for all of us. No matter how much we try, if god doesn't want that to happen then I think it wouldn't happen. It is hard to run a family now because the prices of the basic needs are rising dramatically, this is why we should be wise if we will add more family members or not. Having a side job is fine if your family is already big and you have a limited income though you also need to consider your time.

If your main job is already too time consuming then that would be hard and that might be taxing your health already if you insist to. Remember health is wealth and once we got sick, that will be another problem. I think the best thing that we can do is to budget properly.

It is not difficult to raise a child. BUT! A child needs attention, care, time. Money is not the last, but it cannot be said that it is extremely critical. You can buy a little cheaper clothes or diapers, but communicate more with the child or take him to some kind of developing kids club.
I'll be a little cynical - but people who want to have sex but don't use protection, don't have normal living conditions, or don't have prospects for raising a child are criminals! I understand that most people want children. But you need to measure your capabilities - from living conditions, and the opportunity to devote time to the child, to the place of residence, prospects for education and work.

I was in one country, quite poor, I won’t name it so as not to offend anyone, and driving around the cities I stopped in one cafe. A family worked there, father, wife and 6 children Do not believe it, while we were having dinner and enjoying the rest, dad and mom managed not only to cook, but also to devote time to the little ones, talking to them, reading something to them in books. At this time, the older children helped deliver food, collect, clean up ... And the older children knew, in addition to their native language, 2 more languages ​​- English and Spanish. And these children will have a good future, and their parents will receive care and guardianship in their old age. Unlike those families where they thoughtlessly breed, children are considered a burden, and they constantly moan that life is hard.

Fundamentally, each baby has their own fortune. As long as we want to work hard, we must have the chance to fulfill their needs. Sure, the costs to run the family are getting harder but it doesn't mean we have no solution. It is required to have side jobs, don't rely on our main jobs only. Get more jobs to fulfill the needs of our family, there are many jobs that we can do ourselves. We can start small businesses such as an onlineshop, do day trade, offer services, or many other things. Plans to limit the number of kids is also a possible solution, it is like the program in my country to have an ideal family number with 2 kids.

So it is ok to let children get hungry and not be able to enjoy their rights and privileges in going to school and study?  There are lots of cases where family that has lots of children failed to give them proper education due to the limited income of their parents.  Aside from that, with the given scenario that parents don't have enough money, children often become malnourished and the right to medication of children is violated because the family doesn't have money to pay the hospital or buy medicine.

Having lots of children is good, that is, if you have enough money to sustain them and for all their needs. 

I know what your point @Lubang Bawah, when children grows, they will look for jobs, so more children  more income for the family when they grow up, and parents can just sit and enjoy their old age because they have lots of work children.  A selfish thing to think for me.  You will sacrifice your children's happiness and rights so that you can get comfortable when they grow up.



I agree with you we need to have a plan for how many children we can have so that we can give them all they need.  I am against abortion or anything that will harm kids. 

It's about producing less than the usual people think about having more kids being fun. It's not about killing or the brutal way of lessening it down.
And when you start a family, you have to think of it for so many times because it's not just you and your partner will have to be taken into account but also the fruit of your love to each other if its there.
A wise man will have his finances prepare first before going into a commitment like in a relationship and be serious to start a family.

Most youth getting married in Nigeria has learn to reduce child bearing to the minimum. They mostly stick to 2 or 3 children per couple.

In some nations, the population has grown, making it increasingly difficult for families to pay their bills. In nations like Nigeria, where a particular region can have as many children as it wants without thinking about the consequences, giving birth to many children can worsen the nation's poverty rate, increase crime, and make people into criminals if they lack access to quality education and more. and looking at this the implication is not only in the family but also a problem for society.

Even if that war didnt happen which rising up prices is something inevitable or simply talks about recession or inflation which it would really make our lives even more harder specially when you are just earning

that sufficient on daily living.How much more if you do have a family which needs to be raised? This is why it does really need up that proper planning and you cant just hurry out yourself on having a family
or doesnt mind off about family planning because it would really just put you up on a condition or situation where you are really that struggling on day to day living which is something that we dont really like.
This is why family planning is really very that crucial because raising up a child is really not something cheap from birth until they gets old.

I can say that this is a coincidence because I was in an online conference we are a man of God or pastor as it is fondly called was giving lectures on family planning based on the Christian background. The speaker was very much emphatic about the obvious need of family planning for every family.

He said that some of the Christians say that it is God that gives, therefore as many as God gives they will produce.
That is a deceit from the pit of hell and it will not do any good than to force a family into a perpetual generational poverty.

If you go to some developing countries you will see how people give birth to the amount of children that they cannot train and they cannot even feed, they will now hope on the uncles and aunties to help and train the children and when the uncles and aunties do not extend that helping hand to them they will plant in the children the idea that they are not being loved by their uncles and aunties.
The economy is very bad and every aspect of the economy is bleeding, even the rich is not finding it funny this time around. This is the right time for the government of every nation especially the developing countries to raise a campaign of family planning, thr campaign should be sustainable in order not to breed criminals and hoodlums into the already dying society.

What I always said to my friends and I personally is to sow our clothes according to our size rather living a mare competitive life because I may say destiny aren't the same so is financial levels not same as well. Neutrally a man should only give birth to maximum of 4 children and a minimum of 1 if you must take adequate care of yourself family and for that birthing should be space in 3 years to 4 years before giving birth another children to enable the household relief from financial stressed and mental disorder which is being characterized as results of inability to accommodate the total responsibilities and pressure from wife and children. Note this is for the man of the house, and for him to live longer he must follow up with the rate at which he puts to birth.

Absolutely agree ! The lower the level of development, education, mental level - the lower the culture, in all manifestations. From culture as such, to the culture of planning seven including. The low standard of living is another factor that has become a trigger for high birth rates in such countries. Low standard of living - bad medicine, low incomes, malnutrition. This means high mortality, especially among newborns. I apologize in advance for the phrase, but it's true, in such societies they give birth to children "with a margin", so that at least a part of them can survive and grow up. Well, plus it is believed that with this approach, parents are "guaranteed" the attention of a large number of children and the opportunity to live a little better than alone ... But due to ignorance and stupidity - people do not understand that with this approach, they only exacerbate the problem. Instead of giving priority not to increasing the number of children, but to improving education, the economy, living standards ...