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November 25, 2022, 09:53:44 AM
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the necessities of life continue to rise, while the salary we earn does not keep up with the increase, therefore of course we will think about fulfilling it, because life must go on. but we as religious people, of course, must believe that there is still a way to fulfill everything, and of course the path of fortune will be wide open without us suspecting it beforehand, as long as we are willing to try, fortune will continue to flow
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November 25, 2022, 09:45:27 AM
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It's a difficult situation for a family but we have to keep trying and not give up and I'm sure there will be a way out of all these difficulties. And when we are in a difficult situation, even though we have tried really hard and we seem like there is no way, suddenly, he will see a way appear in front of us that we can use to earn extra income. However, as a father, he will keep trying for the sake of his family. He will find other ways to meet his family's needs.
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November 25, 2022, 09:39:06 AM
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It's someone's responsibility to know whether they can afford a child. It's essential to see if you can because that's going to affect how you are going to raise the child. It's not an easy job, but it's required to be done, you know? It's tiring, and you need to be responsible enough not to complain and do something about it. That's the critical part. There's hope as long as the person complaining is doing something about it, but if there's none, then it's all lost and gone.
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November 25, 2022, 09:28:57 AM
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I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.
I don’t know what country you live in and why you have expensive diapers, but the main expenses for children are medicine and education. If one child gets sick, then the second child gets sick, which increases the burden on the family budget.
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November 25, 2022, 09:24:55 AM
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From your story, I can draw some conclusions that your friend is experiencing frustration because he doesn't have a job and also enough income to take care of his household.


I didn't say he has no job exactly. No job is a general thing affecting the economy and if you want to move out from one job to another you consider how your chance to get another then you can stay back and getting under payment  Grin



And I think there's no need to blame inflation


Why not? The cost of everything keep increasing daily, what is that? If you can't buy the product you buy last two months with same value of money it is because of inflation. You have to buy that with additional cost and that affect your resource.


In several Asian countries, especially in Indonesia, there is a program called the Family Planning Program,

The Family Planning Program doesn't help much, especially for families in remote areas where government directives about their welfare are rarely touched, but they are excited to give birth several times, lol. it may only work if it is a mandatory rule or provides rather harsh consequences such as limiting service rights for violators.

Do people still get control about the family planning program with the economic reality  Grin
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November 25, 2022, 09:00:54 AM
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In several Asian countries, especially in Indonesia, there is a program called the Family Planning Program,

The Family Planning Program doesn't help much, especially for families in remote areas where government directives about their welfare are rarely touched, but they are excited to give birth several times, lol. it may only work if it is a mandatory rule or provides rather harsh consequences such as limiting service rights for violators.
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November 25, 2022, 08:38:27 AM
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I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.
From your story, I can draw some conclusions that your friend is experiencing frustration because he doesn't have a job and also enough income to take care of his household. And I think there's no need to blame inflation or the like as long as he himself doesn't have a job that can make money, because taking care of a household must be accompanied by several things.

The first is the commitment from your friend and his wife in keeping their children healthy and also having enough needs by working in a field they already understand. So this is not only because you have to reduce the number of children born, but also because of more obvious dedications such as work and money even though it has to be accompanied by other small things in a household.
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November 25, 2022, 08:28:55 AM
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The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to.
Formerly in where I am from, Men get married to many women to give them many children so they can have enough labor to work in their farms more efficiently and herd animals, a bigger family meant more more physical strength which also means a strong Family to protect one another if the need be. Things have changed now, Farming activities have reduced and since economically that former practice of having many children is no longer sustainable, Family planning is now more imperative.
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November 25, 2022, 08:10:33 AM
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I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.
Family planing is what really matters, if the economy of your country is getting worst,you should have to adjust your expenses and avoid everything that will make you spend more than your income.

The number of children you want to have should be put into consideration based on your income and the present economy situation. If you have two children, and your monthly income can take care of four people including the parents this is family fine. Even though,inflation comes in the family of four can still adjust their cost of living to balance up with the new change. Imagine that this family of four during inflation, adjusted and can still cope with inflation,but if a new child is comes into this family with still the same income,what do you think ? The standard of living will become poor because they are now five in number to manage the same resources that four people were managing.

Therefore, if you want to give birth check your income if it will be enough to take care of an additional child,give birth but if it will not,then there is no need of giving birth because if you give birth to a child and can't take good care of that child,it is a sin before God and that child might end up hating you because you didn't give him the life he should have
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November 25, 2022, 07:40:24 AM
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In several Asian countries, especially in Indonesia, there is a program called the Family Planning Program, which means that it is enough for one family to have 2 children. Based on what I have read, the aim of the program is to further stabilize family welfare and affordable economic balance. Although this rule is not mandatory, you have the right to have more than 2 children if you can afford it. The risk of economic benefits is clear here, the government is trying to control population growth and reduce poverty. Based on the articles I read
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With the family planning program, the community has indirectly planned their family's cash flow because with 2 children parents with a mediocre income can provide proper clothing, shelter, food, and education. This will be inversely proportional to parents who have more than two children, with a mediocre income they will not be able to provide proper clothing, shelter, food, and education for their children.

So maybe this program also applies to you and your friends. But there's a saying: by having children, your financial wealth will increase in unexpected ways. Because children are a gift from God, God did not make them in the world, but certainly with their fortune.  Wink

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November 25, 2022, 07:21:44 AM
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There will be a way to get the income when you are into that point.


This is what people do and they are ending up with children not taking care of at the end when they have hope of tomorrow that is not sure. Tomorrow is future and can go left or right, good or bad. If you having no good plan for tomorrow no need to plan for it on tomorrow if you don't plan you have plans on how to fail. When you believe in income after you get into that point, you will depend on luck and rely to gamble on anything which begin frustration.
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November 25, 2022, 07:17:32 AM
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I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.

This is how family planning is so important because if you don't have plan this before you start your family then provably you will struggle to feed or buy the needs of your children also to your wife. But since that already happen maybe tell your friend to find another alternative income stream which can help them financially for sure he can take some side jobs and all he need is hard work to make all of this things.
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November 25, 2022, 07:05:19 AM
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This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.
In my religion having more members in your family means you will get good sustenance later in afterlife and this world and I do still remember and take an account of that if I got a chance to raise the child later.
But still take into account before give a birth though, sometimes it is good to just limit it with what you are capable for. But it's just up to you to decide that.

There will be a way to get the income when you are into that point.

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November 25, 2022, 07:03:07 AM
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I think the world has evolved to the point where we have things like birth control pills or families engage in family planning. All these are to help one cope with the economic and financial straits one is plagued with.
Personally, it's not advisable to take on more than you can handle and it's not seen as laziness either if one tend to limit the number of children they are having.
Family planning is a must and I think this generation is more aware of it and there are many welfares that have been helping those unaware of how to plan to start with their families.

Using birth controls and pills is a way to lessen the sudden and unexpected pregnancy of a couple.

Because when you have your own family, you have to prioritize it and it's really going to add more expenses not just for your child but also to your wife/husband.
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November 25, 2022, 06:35:49 AM
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I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.

There are countries like China that did that.... and it backfired on them. The "two-child" policy has it's advantages and disadvantages. Here is a description of the two child policy ==> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-child_policy

" The problem with low fertility is that it reduces population size not at all ages but only among the young. Low fertility produces an age structure that creates a momentum for future population decline, a situation that must be stopped at some point if the population is to be demographically sustainable. " - https://www.prb.org/resources/low-fertility-not-politically-sustainable/

Lower birth rates = Less consumers = falling working-age populations which mean that there are fewer consumers.  Roll Eyes
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November 25, 2022, 06:31:22 AM
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This is because lack of education in under developed nations. In some developed nations, the birth rate is going down. It takes no effort to pump out as many children as you can when half of them die before the age of 5 and live in absolute poverty.

There's a cultural reason for it that preexists the economic hardships which have originated over the last couple of years, but I can imagine the problem's going to get a lot worse now that the global economy is entering a downturn. Has nothing to do with laziness.

There's an issue with labor shortages and not enough young workers subsidizing old retired workers. If there's a birth rate collapse, then you're going to have a lot of old folks that are going to be impoverished.
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November 25, 2022, 06:10:18 AM
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I see that this is reality that the cost of running the family house hold daily, weekly, monthly and yearly has increased. From different people that have complained and including friends, it is getting so much of frustration to taking good care of the family to live fine because inflation and no job. To buy basic need in the house not easy. A friend that have add a new born to his home complaining of buying diaper, provisions for the new child as expensive in addition to the expenses to take care of the other children. The situation of bringing up the family is not easy and I think one way to helping ourselves not to add more financial burden is by reducing the number of children we give birth to. This can help.

This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.
Well, the main solution is to look for another source of income. There's no other better source of doing so than to find another income-generating business or a part-time job.
That's the reality and we have to deal with inflation because the entire world is experiencing it but, it's much worse these days. And for your friend to complain, the kid didn't choose to be born and made by his parents. So, if they're complaining about how expensive baby products are now. They do something about it or do alternatives like using clothes as a substitute for diapers.
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November 25, 2022, 04:40:04 AM
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I have to agree that these technology advancement has actually caused laziness.

But do you also consider the cost of spending on them and having a large number of children. The father mostly caters for every member of his family in this age. Long where the time where more children means more wealth mostly by farmers who has large portion of farms to farm on. Some of these children turn to there own farming at 18+ and helps the father cater for the family. Not now that at 18 some are just getting into obtaining degree and the father caters for everything.

So I will say the act of reducing birth rate now isn't just laziness but cutting cost down and yeah it's a good strategy. Because these days children prefer to have everything done for them. Sadly there isn't much we can do to change that

if you have 1 spoiled child who always got whatever they dreamed of you will end up with 30 yo parasite that continues to live with you and cannot cope with life on his own.

If you have 6 children you have little more work. The older ones take care of the younger ones, help around the house and go to work from the age of 18 to raise their and their family's standard of living because he knows that every penny is worth the effort. You don't help your mum when you see, she is watching netflix 2h daily. You don't go to work for minimal wage when you just get iphone worth 2 months of your work, for free, from parents.

If it was possible to have 5 kids in 1800 its possible to have it now. People just forget what they really need, and what they need only because its widely advertised and hyped.

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November 25, 2022, 04:09:14 AM
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so you're saying that, mostly without electricity, washing machine, refrigerator, diapers, car, internet, advanced farm tools and other inventions of the last 200 years, women gave birth to 6 children (on average!) and now it's impossible to raise second child? nah. People are just lazy nawadays or are focused too much to get new iphone, clothes with good brands, netflix, tiktok, youtube,  etc.



I have to agree that these technology advancement has actually caused laziness.

But do you also consider the cost of spending on them and having a large number of children. The father mostly caters for every member of his family in this age. Long where the time where more children means more wealth mostly by farmers who has large portion of farms to farm on. Some of these children turn to there own farming at 18+ and helps the father cater for the family. Not now that at 18 some are just getting into obtaining degree and the father caters for everything.

So I will say the act of reducing birth rate now isn't just laziness but cutting cost down and yeah it's a good strategy. Because these days children prefer to have everything done for them. Sadly there isn't much we can do to change that
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November 25, 2022, 03:56:33 AM
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This friend of mine now complain so much because of the new child adding to his family. If we reduce the child bearing to the amount we can take care , it will reduce the heat we are feeling from the bad economy experience.
I think the world has evolved to the point where we have things like birth control pills or families engage in family planning. All these are to help one cope with the economic and financial straits one is plagued with.
 Personally, it's not advisable to take on more than you can handle and it's not seen as laziness either if one tend to limit the number of children they are having.
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