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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 11, 2022, 06:24:46 AM

what you describe for parents I agree but not for DNA, there are many journals or studies that explain certain types of addiction, especially drugs, for example, as you mentioned, parents who use drugs will have the potential to cause addiction to their children even in a healthy environment. there are many journals that describe the inheritance of traits in DNA, you can look for it.
In the case of gambling, I think it is interesting that the inherited nature of gambling activities carried out by its predecessors is different from the inheritance of drugs, drugs are substances that are inserted into the human body so that it causes an addictive effect and this affects the DNA chain. For inheritance gambling, inheritance gambling is still very relevant for debate because I believe that everyone is equipped with knowledge and can choose and be responsible for each choice.

You have mentioned a valid point. For example if kids can inherit intelligence then its up to them how they use the intelligence they can choose the productive path or they can choose the destructive path.. have you happened to watch Craigslist Killer | The Case of Philip Markoff? this is a good example how kids from broken family are psychologically affected.

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Quote from: bitgov on July 11, 2022, 04:58:15 AM

Parents have their own choices but I am sure that parents do not want their kids to follow what wrong they do or did in their life.
Like if a father takes drug he would beat his son to death if he finds out his son is doing the same. Likewise - if the parents are addicted drinker they would not want their kids to do that, Having gambling trait in DNA is not correct - its a choice.

what you describe for parents I agree but not for DNA, there are many journals or studies that explain certain types of addiction, especially drugs, for example, as you mentioned, parents who use drugs will have the potential to cause addiction to their children even in a healthy environment. there are many journals that describe the inheritance of traits in DNA, you can look for it.
In the case of gambling, I think it is interesting that the inherited nature of gambling activities carried out by its predecessors is different from the inheritance of drugs, drugs are substances that are inserted into the human body so that it causes an addictive effect and this affects the DNA chain. For inheritance gambling, inheritance gambling is still very relevant for debate because I believe that everyone is equipped with knowledge and can choose and be responsible for each choice.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 09, 2022, 08:09:15 AM

Well, even if gambling were hereditary.... people still have a choice to do it. You should actually be more cautious if gambling addiction is part of your genetic makeup. A lot of people have certain health problems that are hereditary, like for example "Diabetes" .... so the children in the family should then decide if they are going to "live" more healthy to avoid it.... or if they going to eat wrong food and increase the risk to get Diabetes later in their life. Roll Eyes

So, you still have a choice in the matter.... and you should not just blame your weak genes, for the bad choices you make. Roll Eyes

Exactly. There are so many bad things that are "hereditary" that if they were manifested and not suppressed everyone would be a walking monster ... no, a monster in a wheelchair because of the health problems.

What I don't like the most in the article in the OP is that it can be used as an excuse. "What could I do? It's hereditary! " We, everyone of us, are editing our hereditary traits all the time, suppressing bad ones and reinforcing what's good, both on physical and mental levels. Without this editing there would be no life as we know it.

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Quote from: traderethereum on July 11, 2022, 03:57:13 AM

That's because a child only sees and imitates what his parents do so it makes us as parents be careful when in front of them. We must be able to set a good example so that they see and imitate it for their future provision. If we can set a good example for them, they will surely understand and be able to distinguish what they can and cannot do. This will also prevent their children from doing something bad when they grow up. Children need the understanding to understand things so this is what makes us have to be able to explain everything properly and correctly.

Parents have their own choices but I am sure that parents do not want their kids to follow what wrong they do or did in their life.
Like if a father takes drug he would beat his son to death if he finds out his son is doing the same. Likewise - if the parents are addicted drinker they would not want their kids to do that, Having gambling trait in DNA is not correct - its a choice.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on July 09, 2022, 05:10:32 AM

Seems you're contradicts yourself.
If you said the environment is full of smokers, then you will become smoker too. But you said it's depend on your personal choice, this mean environment do not always make the adult become smoker even he surrounded full of smokers.

Yes, it depends on your personal choice because if someone has a strong character, he will not be tempted by anything and be able to choose what he thinks is good.
But many people become seduced by their surroundings and in the end, they follow what the people in their environment do.
We decide what we want to be and not depend on the environment.

Quote from: AicecreaME on July 09, 2022, 07:11:24 AM

Children would either copy what they see on their parents or question them, it's their only two choices. If their parents are addicted to gambling, then it would cause chaos into their family that gives children truma, that's why they'll hate their parents addiction forever and will not do the same like their parents. Mostly children who has a worst environment turned out to be a good example to other people, some are worst than their parents.

That's because a child only sees and imitates what his parents do so it makes us as parents be careful when in front of them. We must be able to set a good example so that they see and imitate it for their future provision. If we can set a good example for them, they will surely understand and be able to distinguish what they can and cannot do. This will also prevent their children from doing something bad when they grow up. Children need the understanding to understand things so this is what makes us have to be able to explain everything properly and correctly.

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Quote from: blockman on July 10, 2022, 06:47:53 PM

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Quote from: blockman on July 09, 2022, 06:43:08 PM

Yes, we all have the freedom to continue or not. But with the younger ones today, they're easy become hooked on something they do like gambling.
And when they're there being addicted, they can't stop and handle it all of it and that's how they are ending up miserably because it's hard for them to admit that they're addicted and they can't help themselves to get out of it.

It is the fact when we do something good we credit ourself and when something bad happens we blame others.
Likewise - if we a winner gambler - we will take the credit and if we are a looser gambler we will blame others. most of the the time we also keep fighting with our parents for all the bad which comes in life. That is such a mess. But one thing is for sure - gambling is not transfer through DNA.

Yeah, you don't want that to happen someday that your kid will blame you that they've became addicted in gambling because of you. Despite them the ones taking actions and decisions of their lives and when they've became miserable due to gambling, they'll be blaming you as the parent because you did nothing and they'll put the blame on your genes and they've just inherited it. Sounds funny but it could happen because there are people that are just looking for someone to blame for for their misfortune.

That is true, and also a good reason to be careful with who you introduce to gambling, directly or indirectly, because if people you referred have any issues later with their betting behavior, you are the one who is going to be blamed for everything. Funny thing is that even when someone isn't introduced or incentivized to gamble by anyone, they still find a way to avoid their own mistakes by blaming gambling itself!

But after these studies explaining gambling behavior can be inherited, there are serious chances it can become a new trend among problem gamblers to justify their actions and avoid consenting any faults on their side...

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Quote from: Cryptock on July 10, 2022, 03:07:46 PM

Quote from: blockman on July 09, 2022, 06:43:08 PM

Yes, we all have the freedom to continue or not. But with the younger ones today, they're easy become hooked on something they do like gambling.
And when they're there being addicted, they can't stop and handle it all of it and that's how they are ending up miserably because it's hard for them to admit that they're addicted and they can't help themselves to get out of it.

It is the fact when we do something good we credit ourself and when something bad happens we blame others.
Likewise - if we a winner gambler - we will take the credit and if we are a looser gambler we will blame others. most of the the time we also keep fighting with our parents for all the bad which comes in life. That is such a mess. But one thing is for sure - gambling is not transfer through DNA.

Yeah, you don't want that to happen someday that your kid will blame you that they've became addicted in gambling because of you. Despite them the ones taking actions and decisions of their lives and when they've became miserable due to gambling, they'll be blaming you as the parent because you did nothing and they'll put the blame on your genes and they've just inherited it. Sounds funny but it could happen because there are people that are just looking for someone to blame for for their misfortune.

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Quote from: blockman on July 09, 2022, 06:43:08 PM

Yes, we all have the freedom to continue or not. But with the younger ones today, they're easy become hooked on something they do like gambling.
And when they're there being addicted, they can't stop and handle it all of it and that's how they are ending up miserably because it's hard for them to admit that they're addicted and they can't help themselves to get out of it.

It is the fact when we do something good we credit ourself and when something bad happens we blame others.
Likewise - if we a winner gambler - we will take the credit and if we are a looser gambler we will blame others. most of the the time we also keep fighting with our parents for all the bad which comes in life. That is such a mess. But one thing is for sure - gambling is not transfer through DNA.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 09, 2022, 11:56:53 AM

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Quote from: Cryptock on July 09, 2022, 10:20:35 AM

Gambling is not in DNA, neither is the smoking and drug addiction. Many kids do not smoke at all if they don't like their mom or dad smoking and dying day by day.
Many kids like to stay clean and don't drink at all if they have seen their parents struggling hard to get out of drinking addiction. Neither is gambling a productive activity nor its transferred through DNA

The habit may be inherited if you think of it that the parents and the children have been doing the same activity. It's true that gambling isn't in the DNA.
But traits and habits can be done and inherited and it will still gonna be depending on the children if they'll let that dominate them. There go the children that have the behavior that they'll do the same things of what their parents are doing.

Depends on how the person adopts the system, might be true that if the kids don't like to do the same

they can stay away from these activities and find their own path, if they see that there's nothing for them or if they are not
enjoying but in that same sentiments, if those kids see that the parents are enjoying the mindset or the thinking is they can
imitate that just simply following how the parents deals with it.

Yes, we all have the freedom to continue or not. But with the younger ones today, they're easy become hooked on something they do like gambling.
And when they're there being addicted, they can't stop and handle it all of it and that's how they are ending up miserably because it's hard for them to admit that they're addicted and they can't help themselves to get out of it.

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Quote from: bitgov on July 09, 2022, 03:16:07 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on July 09, 2022, 11:56:53 AM

Depends on how the person adopts the system, might be true that if the kids don't like to do the same

they can stay away from these activities and find their own path, if they see that there's nothing for them or if they are not
enjoying but in that same sentiments, if those kids see that the parents are enjoying the mindset or the thinking is they can
imitate that just simply following how the parents deals with it.

But most of the time - kids become more smarter and more wiser to decide what to do and what not to..

I don't call that becoming smarter or wiser. They are darer to do things that interests them and get bolder about not listening to their parent's advice.

Quote from: bitgov on July 09, 2022, 03:16:07 PM

However - life teaches everyone a great lesson every day. But saying that your are gambler because your father was gambler or you smoke because your father does. Is not correct.

Or is not wrong. Often times kids mimic their parents. Remember the very first education comes from the family. So whatever a child observes from his parents, they might simulate it. There is always a huge possibility that a kid might do the same thing as what their parents are doing, especially vices and their parent's sort of entertainment. And parent's fondness for gambling is not excluded from the traits a kid might inherit.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 09, 2022, 11:56:53 AM

Depends on how the person adopts the system, might be true that if the kids don't like to do the same

they can stay away from these activities and find their own path, if they see that there's nothing for them or if they are not
enjoying but in that same sentiments, if those kids see that the parents are enjoying the mindset or the thinking is they can
imitate that just simply following how the parents deals with it.

But most of the time - kids become more smarter and more wiser to decide what to do and what not to..
However - life teaches everyone a great lesson every day. But saying that your are gambler because your father was gambler or you smoke because your father does. Is not correct.

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Quote from: blockman on July 09, 2022, 11:11:35 AM

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Gambling is not in DNA, neither is the smoking and drug addiction. Many kids do not smoke at all if they don't like their mom or dad smoking and dying day by day.
Many kids like to stay clean and don't drink at all if they have seen their parents struggling hard to get out of drinking addiction. Neither is gambling a productive activity nor its transferred through DNA

The habit may be inherited if you think of it that the parents and the children have been doing the same activity. It's true that gambling isn't in the DNA.
But traits and habits can be done and inherited and it will still gonna be depending on the children if they'll let that dominate them. There go the children that have the behavior that they'll do the same things of what their parents are doing.

Depends on how the person adopts the system, might be true that if the kids don't like to do the same

they can stay away from these activities and find their own path, if they see that there's nothing for them or if they are not
enjoying but in that same sentiments, if those kids see that the parents are enjoying the mindset or the thinking is they can
imitate that just simply following how the parents deals with it.

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Quote from: bitgov on July 08, 2022, 04:57:04 PM

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Quote from: Finestream on July 08, 2022, 04:38:43 PM

Well, i have observed this from my neighborhood, that most of them have turned into gamblers. Maybe heredity still counts as whatever the tree, so is the fruit. But having an environment that is full of gamblers may also have a big effect on the young ones. It's like their young minds have been motivated that gambling can make them rich, or the reason that they don't struggles in life. However, when they grow old and mature, they will eventually discover the real effects of gambling, and its their choice whether to do the same or just get rid of gambling.

Me as well, my neighbor turned their house into a small mahjong place wherein most of them are the players and other of my neighbors as well. I remember a time that a police came to their house but due to the influence of the owner in the compound, police turn around and left. It is prohibited to play a local gambling without a permit and license from the government, but people will still play since there will be a chance that they will get more money when they win. Environment do affects a person behavior and also what will he about to do in his life in the future, but that doesn't mean be cannot be change, gambling addiction doesn't run in the blood.

Environment do affect. But the OP is about the transfer of gambling from parents to kids - which is not possible - because not all the kids become gamblers if the parents are gamblers. However it is also one of the possibility that gamblers kids refuse to gamble incase they dislike gambling.

Gambling is an addiction and it's very rare that kids do not follow their parents and not play gambling when their parents have this habit of gambling.
If anyone wants that his/her kids not gamble, then they should quit gambling first and set an example for their kids. Otherwise, the kids will always have this excuse that since their parents were gamblers why can't they do gambling too.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 09, 2022, 08:09:15 AM

Well, even if gambling were hereditary.... people still have a choice to do it. You should actually be more cautious if gambling addiction is part of your genetic makeup. A lot of people have certain health problems that are hereditary, like for example "Diabetes" .... so the children in the family should then decide if they are going to "live" more healthy to avoid it.... or if they going to eat wrong food and increase the risk to get Diabetes later in their life. Roll Eyes

So, you still have a choice in the matter.... and you should not just blame your weak genes, for the bad choices you make. Roll Eyes

I totally agree with you. Having a genetic make up that is inclined with being a gambler doesn't necessarily mean that you would also be a gambler and suffer the problems that come along with it including addiction. We have our own choice of how we will do things. We are granted free will because the decisions lie on our very own hands. We shouldn't be dictated by anyone or anything.

Having a genes with gambling is predominant shouldn't be the basis of determining someone's future or identity. Every person have the capability to resist and do otherwise what people expect them to do or to become.

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Quote from: Cryptock on July 09, 2022, 10:20:35 AM

Gambling is not in DNA, neither is the smoking and drug addiction. Many kids do not smoke at all if they don't like their mom or dad smoking and dying day by day.
Many kids like to stay clean and don't drink at all if they have seen their parents struggling hard to get out of drinking addiction. Neither is gambling a productive activity nor its transferred through DNA

The habit may be inherited if you think of it that the parents and the children have been doing the same activity. It's true that gambling isn't in the DNA.
But traits and habits can be done and inherited and it will still gonna be depending on the children if they'll let that dominate them. There go the children that have the behavior that they'll do the same things of what their parents are doing.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on July 09, 2022, 08:47:20 AM

Quote from: smartaction on July 06, 2022, 04:43:58 AM

Gambling which is a bad addiction. It never spreads through DNA. This is a social problem. It may be that someone in a family is addicted to gambling, and seeing him there, another member of the family may become involved in gambling. Someone can involve in gamble by his gambler friend. And if someone gambles for entertainment, gambling can become an additional addiction.

People get addicted due to gambling activities they see from their friends and family, they get very interested to gamble when they know it is a way to make money. The money involved it that is the main reason for addiction, addiction is not inherited , people only pick interest in gambling .

Gambling is not in DNA, neither is the smoking and drug addiction. Many kids do not smoke at all if they don't like their mom or dad smoking and dying day by day.
Many kids like to stay clean and don't drink at all if they have seen their parents struggling hard to get out of drinking addiction. Neither is gambling a productive activity nor its transferred through DNA

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Quote from: smartaction on July 06, 2022, 04:43:58 AM

Gambling which is a bad addiction. It never spreads through DNA. This is a social problem. It may be that someone in a family is addicted to gambling, and seeing him there, another member of the family may become involved in gambling. Someone can involve in gamble by his gambler friend. And if someone gambles for entertainment, gambling can become an additional addiction.

People get addicted due to gambling activities they see from their friends and family, they get very interested to gamble when they know it is a way to make money. The money involved it that is the main reason for addiction, addiction is not inherited , people only pick interest in gambling .

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Well, even if gambling were hereditary.... people still have a choice to do it. You should actually be more cautious if gambling addiction is part of your genetic makeup. A lot of people have certain health problems that are hereditary, like for example "Diabetes" .... so the children in the family should then decide if they are going to "live" more healthy to avoid it.... or if they going to eat wrong food and increase the risk to get Diabetes later in their life. Roll Eyes

So, you still have a choice in the matter.... and you should not just blame your weak genes, for the bad choices you make. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: crzy on July 08, 2022, 05:58:10 PM

This is a good comparison, we should understand that it is our choice to get addict into something and most of the time if the Children sees the addiction of their parents, they started to hate it. In the situation of my friend, his parents is a liquor addict and when his parent get drunk, they became insane and starts to hurt his siblings so this kind of trauma makes them hate beer, and that is also a proof that addiction can’t be inherit. We all have our own choices here especially if you are already on a legal age, always choose what’s best for you.

That is correct personal choice is a different thing and addiction is an other. But we can not say it at all that just because our parents were smokers - kids are smoking. My father was a chain smoker. But none of my sibling likes smoking at all. Why it has not been transferred through genes? because it is not in DNA

Yes, you are right. If the environment around the children does not have children who smoke, it could be that later when they grow up, no one will smoke either.
As for adults who have already smoked, it will remain like that.
There are also those whose fathers don't smoke at all, but their children are surrounded by smoking children, which makes them smoke as well.
Maybe it's not related to DNA but maybe how we can choose which one to use and that's more personal.

Children would either copy what they see on their parents or question them, it's their only two choices. If their parents are addicted to gambling, then it would cause chaos into their family that gives children truma, that's why they'll hate their parents addiction forever and will not do the same like their parents. Mostly children who has a worst environment turned out to be a good example to other people, some are worst than their parents.

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Quote from: Maslate on July 09, 2022, 03:23:59 AM

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Quote from: crzy on July 08, 2022, 05:58:10 PM

This is a good comparison, we should understand that it is our choice to get addict into something and most of the time if the Children sees the addiction of their parents, they started to hate it. In the situation of my friend, his parents is a liquor addict and when his parent get drunk, they became insane and starts to hurt his siblings so this kind of trauma makes them hate beer, and that is also a proof that addiction can’t be inherit. We all have our own choices here especially if you are already on a legal age, always choose what’s best for you.

That is correct personal choice is a different thing and addiction is an other. But we can not say it at all that just because our parents were smokers - kids are smoking. My father was a chain smoker. But none of my sibling likes smoking at all. Why it has not been transferred through genes? because it is not in DNA

Very well said, but gambling and smoking are entirely different, there's no thrill in smoking while there's a huge thrill in gambling because you have a chance to win big money if you will try to risk money. Sometimes we are influenced if we see people inside the family that are winning in gambling, which will result in curiosity and we will also try to experiment on our own.

Each addiction has its own sensation and we cannot equate addiction to alcohol, cigarettes and gambling because they are something or a different kind and have their own sensations. Also, every child can always choose whether they should become addicts too or not because over time there will be changes to their choices. For example I have a friend whose parents were drunkards and my friend as a teenager chose the same way as a drunkard, but over time after he had his own family the drunken habit had disappeared from him. Well, basically every addiction will be eliminated over time with awareness from themselves, about inheritance it is not something that can be associated with addiction because inheritance is something that has a price and value.

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