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Quote from: madnessteat on July 05, 2022, 05:25:20 AM

I believe that even if a person has a genetic predisposition to gambling, it is not a particular problem because a person can control his actions and refrain from negative experiences.

In my opinion we choose our own destiny and what to do in life. If a gambler blames his losses on his genes, most likely he is afraid to admit his mistakes and tries to blame someone else for his mistakes.

I would not say that. In fact everything we do is controlled by the actions of the chemicals in our brain. The illusion of control is completely false and arbitrary. So whenever I hear of addiction, primarily gambling addiction, to stay on topic, I do not believe that the mentioned gambler can control his actions and refrain from negative experiences as much as some people believe that he can.

As I said in a previous post, its all really boiled down to brain chemicals and brain dysfunctions which, if you are unlucky, result in lifetime gambling addictions which do not go away with simple self help or "strict self discipline".

So saying we choose our own destiny is kind of a trap. People who need help get ignored because others perceive it as "their own fault" even though its not really.

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 05, 2022, 05:41:51 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on July 05, 2022, 05:25:20 AM

I believe that even if a person has a genetic predisposition to gambling, it is not a particular problem because a person can control his actions and refrain from negative experiences.

In my opinion we choose our own destiny and what to do in life. If a gambler blames his losses on his genes, most likely he is afraid to admit his mistakes and tries to blame someone else for his mistakes.

Make sense, but IMO it's not really on the genes. It is when a child witnesses how their parents gambles regularly like it's a normal thing for them that is a part of their daily grind. It will instill in their young minds and will eventually develop into a habit and worse gambling addiction.
So, yeah it is us who chooses our fate on whether or not we engage into gambling excessively.

I also have the same stand on this, it is a matter of how we learn gambling from our elders , in this we inherit the gambling by them teaching us how to gamble and not in the bloodline ,
this is not something we can inherit in terms of passing thru generation without our consent .
so maybe it happens because of the elders not concern if we will be a gambler also like them or not , so lets use this as lesson for our youngsters not to become in our kind.

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Quote from: madnessteat on July 05, 2022, 05:25:20 AM

I believe that even if a person has a genetic predisposition to gambling, it is not a particular problem because a person can control his actions and refrain from negative experiences.

In my opinion we choose our own destiny and what to do in life. If a gambler blames his losses on his genes, most likely he is afraid to admit his mistakes and tries to blame someone else for his mistakes.

Make sense, but IMO it's not really on the genes. It is when a child witnesses how their parents gambles regularly like it's a normal thing for them that is a part of their daily grind. It will instill in their young minds and will eventually develop into a habit and worse gambling addiction.
So, yeah it is us who chooses our fate on whether or not we engage into gambling excessively.

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I believe that even if a person has a genetic predisposition to gambling, it is not a particular problem because a person can control his actions and refrain from negative experiences.

In my opinion we choose our own destiny and what to do in life. If a gambler blames his losses on his genes, most likely he is afraid to admit his mistakes and tries to blame someone else for his mistakes.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 05, 2022, 01:00:48 AM

exactly as you said, women prefer safe options and this is reinforced by many theses from experts. Not only for gambling, the behaviors inherited from our ancestors pass on the genes to the next generation including any addiction. and it's true that anything in excess is not good especially for gambling. as others have said just play for fun with money you can afford to lose.

But even though we inherit the gambler gene from our ancestors, if we have a strong desire to stay away from gambling, I don't think we will be affected by the temptation and we can even stay away from it.

I agree, that righteous virtue and strong willpower can counter the gene defect of being easily attracted to gambling.

Quote from: traderethereum on July 05, 2022, 03:13:37 AM

Besides, we will not become addicted because we already have good self-control in playing gambling so we know how to treat gambling properly and well.
And if we play gambling, we will only have fun with enough money and can stop if we feel we have had enough fun.

I bet this kind of scenario needs a lot of training and self-control practice. Aside from that, the person should be guided at a very young age so that parents can easily mindset their children that gambling if not controlled can do them no good.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 05, 2022, 01:00:48 AM

exactly as you said, women prefer safe options and this is reinforced by many theses from experts. Not only for gambling, the behaviors inherited from our ancestors pass on the genes to the next generation including any addiction. and it's true that anything in excess is not good especially for gambling. as others have said just play for fun with money you can afford to lose.

But even though we inherit the gambler gene from our ancestors, if we have a strong desire to stay away from gambling, I don't think we will be affected by the temptation and we can even stay away from it.
Besides, we will not become addicted because we already have good self-control in playing gambling so we know how to treat gambling properly and well.
And if we play gambling, we will only have fun with enough money and can stop if we feel we have had enough fun.

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Quote from: davis196 on July 05, 2022, 02:03:48 AM

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- Would you blame an individual who becomes addicted to gambling because it is wired to his DNA?

-Can their gambling problem be put in check by regular methods?

-Will the addiction be worse than someone who picked up the habit?

Playing the "blame game" isn't a constructive approach that would help in solving the problem. Trying to help a person is better than blaming him/her or his/her possible DNA inheritance.
I don't think that gambling addiction is genetically inherited. What gets genetically inherited is the ability to fall into different kinds of addictions, because the brain is craving different hormones like dopamine. Those hormones have lower production in some people, who have a particular genetic code.
What do you mean by "regular methods"? We should ask a psychic doctor, who is an expert in dealing with gambling addictions.
This topic requires expertise that we don't have.

The value of helping a person instead of blaming that genes, if that is possible, is more important.

If it's for real that the DNA of the gambler can be genetically transfer the only thing that can be done is to help the person and
not to let him feel that it's a fault that he falls into this addiction.

Like what you said, it's something that expert doctors can treat and with them guiding the person, it's more possible
to treat and save a person's future.

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Quote from: Johnyz on July 02, 2022, 05:13:05 PM

Addiction can’t be inherit, its not on the genes and you can have the choice either to gamble or not.
I used to see my parents playing some game cards in our locals, but look at me now I’m not a gambler that much and I only play occasionally so I really think this is still your choice and not because of someones genes. Gambling is something that you can learn because of money, and nothing more.

Yeah . like my stand in second page this cannot be inherited instead this can be passed by teaching them directly or indirectly , meaning that those people who thought being inherit the gambling mostly learn from them , sometimes when seeing them plays or hearing them talking about gambling and this influenced them to try or pursue the gambling world.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 01, 2022, 06:54:54 PM

Gambling can be genetic and passed on to offspring, but I have noticed that females are not addicted as male when it comes to gambling and that gives me doubt about it, or maybe that is how it is in my region, men are most into gambling. Or maybe the gene is more concentrated in men than women.

No one can blame addicts, but any bad deeds done by them can be punished. The more fact we need is that addiction is not good, it can lead to a kind of life someone do not wish for himself, the reason we should use just the amount of money we can afford to lose and nothing more than that.

Women are inherently less risk averse.

Women are the keepers of the most valuable and well-established useful qualities necessary for the survival of the human race.

Men are by nature explorers and experimenters. There are many morons among men, but also many geniuses. In essence, the male is an experimental laboratory for testing various life strategies that may be useful for the survival of the human population.

The propensity to gamble and risk, as a quality of character, can also be a useful quality in terms of evolution.

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- Would you blame an individual who becomes addicted to gambling because it is wired to his DNA?

-Can their gambling problem be put in check by regular methods?

-Will the addiction be worse than someone who picked up the habit?

Playing the "blame game" isn't a constructive approach that would help in solving the problem. Trying to help a person is better than blaming him/her or his/her possible DNA inheritance.
I don't think that gambling addiction is genetically inherited. What gets genetically inherited is the ability to fall into different kinds of addictions, because the brain is craving different hormones like dopamine. Those hormones have lower production in some people, who have a particular genetic code.
What do you mean by "regular methods"? We should ask a psychic doctor, who is an expert in dealing with gambling addictions.
This topic requires expertise that we don't have.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on July 04, 2022, 07:50:48 PM

Quote from: Oshosondy on July 01, 2022, 06:54:54 PM

Gambling can be genetic and passed on to offspring, but I have noticed that females are not addicted as male when it comes to gambling and that gives me doubt about it, or maybe that is how it is in my region, men are most into gambling. Or maybe the gene is more concentrated in men than women.

No one can blame addicts, but any bad deeds done by them can be punished. The more fact we need is that addiction is not good, it can lead to a kind of life someone do not wish for himself, the reason we should use just the amount of money we can afford to lose and nothing more than that.

exactly what I thought when I saw his post, if it's given to sons and daughters equally why are the majority of gamblers males and not females ?! I'm not a biologist but maybe it's because men take more risk, it has to do with other things that are different from men and women, because men are more likely to take risks while most women prefer safe options.

exactly as you said, women prefer safe options and this is reinforced by many theses from experts. Not only for gambling, the behaviors inherited from our ancestors pass on the genes to the next generation including any addiction. and it's true that anything in excess is not good especially for gambling. as others have said just play for fun with money you can afford to lose.

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 03, 2022, 10:16:57 AM

According to my perception i don’t think it’s anything genetic. Suppose, gambling is legalized in a family that means someone in the particular family can gamble freely, then it is very simple for any child born in that family to grow up and become addicted to gambling. There are many people whose parents or family members do not gamble but one of the persons of that family become addicted to gambling. So I would never call it inheritance. I would blame it only on his environment where gambling is used normally.

That's right and I agree with what you said. Inheritance is different from Influential. In short,
gambling is a kind of choice whether you want to be a gambler or not, even inheritance is also
a choice to whom you want to transfer it.

Quote from: crwth on July 04, 2022, 10:15:11 PM

I think, in general, it's harder for people to stop their addiction when it's genetic. Most of the time, they will always come back to what makes them happy or what makes them feel fulfilled or something. It will be hard to overcome that, but that's just how you will know how strong the person is with willpower.

Comparing them to someone who has just gotten into the habit it's doing it is challenging. I think there's no significant difference.

If the person is totally addicted into gambling, that means Greediness is controlling His/Her character as a gambler.
However, side from its hard to overcome it, it is something like that you need to consult a doctor to find out to resolve
this problems as well.

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I think, in general, it's harder for people to stop their addiction when it's genetic. Most of the time, they will always come back to what makes them happy or what makes them feel fulfilled or something. It will be hard to overcome that, but that's just how you will know how strong the person is with willpower.

Comparing them to someone who has just gotten into the habit it's doing it is challenging. I think there's no significant difference.

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Every person is different, and you just have to play with the cards you're dealt with.

It's still 100% responsibility of every person.

Every person gets to choose what they will do with their 24 hours every day.

It's the same with addiction to anything else.

It's the same with how fit or fat the person becomes.

It's the same with how educated or uneducated the person becomes.

It's the same with building a successful or unsuccessful life.

Everyone can make up any number of excuses that are external, but at the end of the day, everyone is responsible of themselves. And they get to live the life they design.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 01, 2022, 06:54:54 PM

Gambling can be genetic and passed on to offspring, but I have noticed that females are not addicted as male when it comes to gambling and that gives me doubt about it, or maybe that is how it is in my region, men are most into gambling. Or maybe the gene is more concentrated in men than women.

No one can blame addicts, but any bad deeds done by them can be punished. The more fact we need is that addiction is not good, it can lead to a kind of life someone do not wish for himself, the reason we should use just the amount of money we can afford to lose and nothing more than that.

exactly what I thought when I saw his post, if it's given to sons and daughters equally why are the majority of gamblers males and not females ?! I'm not a biologist but maybe it's because men take more risk, it has to do with other things that are different from men and women, because men are more likely to take risks while most women prefer safe options.

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Quote from: sovie on July 04, 2022, 06:41:35 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on July 04, 2022, 05:45:27 PM

Totally not relevant right? It isnt really that connected on someones DNA on where you do say that it could be passed into your children or sons/daughters because even people or parent would really be
involved into gambling but doesnt mean that it would really be definitely be on the same on where their children would be doing.It cant be passed but it would really be influencing those kids
if you wont guide them on the proper way and telling them about the risk of doing gambling.It do matters on parenting if you are really tending not for your children to follow on the same steps
you have done.It all matters about educating them about the risk but if you do missed it out then dont get surprised about possible things to happen ahead.

Gambling is not in the DNA - it's the lifestyle which make a person a gamblor. But saying that gambling is transferred through genes is totally irrelevant.
And most of the time the kids don't follow the footprints of the gamblor father. But whatever it is not transferred through DNA

This is what im saying which its not really that right to believe that it could be passed through DNA and it all matters on the behavior which ive seen some who do have gambler parents but
their children is totally opposite of it whether they had been told or been prohibited or they are totally making decisions on their own on not to deal with gambling because its not their
line of interest which it is mostly the case.Its a wrong belief i would say and there's no prove about such manner that it could really be passed on that way
but it would be more accurate that it could really be that influential whenever they do see someone who do play actively.

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Quote from: Fortify on July 04, 2022, 03:22:07 PM

What a load of rubbish, nothing is "wired" to someones DNA. It is a learned behavior and picked up from the environmental setting someone grows up in. It is not a gene, but unfortunately whoever the guardian is to a child can have a huge impact on their development as a person. If you live around someone who smokes a lot, you're much more likely to pick up this habit. If you're around someone who flaunts that they are betting money on whatever, it's not as bad as smoking which has an addictive chemical property, you might be influenced into thinking it is less dangerous. Parent's and guardians have a massive responsibility to teach their children good behavior and it is very easy to pass along bad habits without even realizing.

Medical studies and research said so, even if we disagree, we don't have valid proof to refute their statement. All we have is just some personal experience and personal belief that makes it a bit biased.
I myself disagree with it but have no valid proof that it does not exist. So I won't bother about gambling being inherited or not. What matters is how to cope with it to avoid gambling addiction. Prevention is always better than cure, assuming it does exist, I wanted to know how to prevent this kind of situation from developing a gambling addiction.

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Quote from: Mahanton on July 04, 2022, 05:45:27 PM

Totally not relevant right? It isnt really that connected on someones DNA on where you do say that it could be passed into your children or sons/daughters because even people or parent would really be
involved into gambling but doesnt mean that it would really be definitely be on the same on where their children would be doing.It cant be passed but it would really be influencing those kids
if you wont guide them on the proper way and telling them about the risk of doing gambling.It do matters on parenting if you are really tending not for your children to follow on the same steps
you have done.It all matters about educating them about the risk but if you do missed it out then dont get surprised about possible things to happen ahead.

Gambling is not in the DNA - it's the lifestyle which make a person a gamblor. But saying that gambling is transferred through genes is totally irrelevant.
And most of the time the kids don't follow the footprints of the gamblor father. But whatever it is not transferred through DNA

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Quote from: Fortify on July 04, 2022, 03:22:07 PM

Quote from: Rruchi man on July 01, 2022, 06:46:12 PM

I know we are greatly influenced by the environment we are born into and sometimes become gamblers because of where we find ourselves, i also considered the possibility of gambling being hereditary and found out that it is also possible, that is gambling can be hereditary ,

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Gambling is linked to a gene that is passed on through generations and a new study claims that it is passed on to both sons and daughters alike.

now come to think of it since it is difficult to escape our genetic makeup,
- Would you blame an individual who becomes addicted to gambling because it is wired to his DNA?

-Can their gambling problem be put in check by regular methods?

-Will the addiction be worse than someone who picked up the habit?

What a load of rubbish, nothing is "wired" to someones DNA. It is a learned behavior and picked up from the environmental setting someone grows up in. It is not a gene, but unfortunately whoever the guardian is to a child can have a huge impact on their development as a person. If you live around someone who smokes a lot, you're much more likely to pick up this habit. If you're around someone who flaunts that they are betting money on whatever, it's not as bad as smoking which has an addictive chemical property, you might be influenced into thinking it is less dangerous. Parent's and guardians have a massive responsibility to teach their children good behavior and it is very easy to pass along bad habits without even realizing.

Totally not relevant right? It isnt really that connected on someones DNA on where you do say that it could be passed into your children or sons/daughters because even people or parent would really be
involved into gambling but doesnt mean that it would really be definitely be on the same on where their children would be doing.It cant be passed but it would really be influencing those kids
if you wont guide them on the proper way and telling them about the risk of doing gambling.It do matters on parenting if you are really tending not for your children to follow on the same steps
you have done.It all matters about educating them about the risk but if you do missed it out then dont get surprised about possible things to happen ahead.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on July 01, 2022, 06:46:12 PM

I know we are greatly influenced by the environment we are born into and sometimes become gamblers because of where we find ourselves, i also considered the possibility of gambling being hereditary and found out that it is also possible, that is gambling can be hereditary ,

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Gambling is linked to a gene that is passed on through generations and a new study claims that it is passed on to both sons and daughters alike.

now come to think of it since it is difficult to escape our genetic makeup,
- Would you blame an individual who becomes addicted to gambling because it is wired to his DNA?

-Can their gambling problem be put in check by regular methods?

-Will the addiction be worse than someone who picked up the habit?

What a load of rubbish, nothing is "wired" to someones DNA. It is a learned behavior and picked up from the environmental setting someone grows up in. It is not a gene, but unfortunately whoever the guardian is to a child can have a huge impact on their development as a person. If you live around someone who smokes a lot, you're much more likely to pick up this habit. If you're around someone who flaunts that they are betting money on whatever, it's not as bad as smoking which has an addictive chemical property, you might be influenced into thinking it is less dangerous. Parent's and guardians have a massive responsibility to teach their children good behavior and it is very easy to pass along bad habits without even realizing.

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