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This is a bad night in boxing for the Filipinos two prominent Filipino fighters just lost tonight against two Japanese fighters, Sultan against Matsuda via first-round knockout, and Ancajas against Takuma Inoue, and every Filipino is now calling Casimero to step up and fight for a title against a Japanese possibly against Naoya Inoue, there is a call now that Casimero, and MP promotion to resolve their issues and make a deal for Inoue to fight him this year.

This fight may eventually happen because some of the prominent names in Philippine boxing are losing one by one, the one remaining now is Mark Magsayo but Magsayo is not Manny Pacquiao and he is in a division that is loaded with great boxers like Navarette, Lopez and Joe Cordina this is a tough time for Filipino boxers, there was a time that there were 5 Filipino World Champions, now there is none.
In Filipino boxing, the ones who can really be the hope at the moment are actually Tapales and Casimero, but Tapales himself was defeated by Inoue last year and the hope is only on Casimero side to be able to fight with Inoue and try to fight for the championship belt.
But I not sure that their fight will actually be held soon because Inoue himself will probably move up division to be able to get more titles in different division, it just that Casimero is more likely to really want to be able to face Inoue.
Moreover, Inoue has succeeded in getting 4 main belt titles in the two classes he has managed to master, when he faces Casimero he will not get anything more valuable and when he loses he will only feel regret.
Previously there had been many rumors circulating about their fight but Inoue seemed to be avoiding this fight.

Currently, Filipino boxers are really can't be expected, in the sense that no one can be seen as really strong and able to win more championship titles like Manny Pacquiao who was able to take seven belts from each different class.
Maybe there will never be another Filipino boxer like him.
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This is a bad night in boxing for the Filipinos two prominent Filipino fighters just lost tonight against two Japanese fighters, Sultan against Matsuda via first-round knockout, and Ancajas against Takuma Inoue, and every Filipino is now calling Casimero to step up and fight for a title against a Japanese possibly against Naoya Inoue, there is a call now that Casimero, and MP promotion to resolve their issues and make a deal for Inoue to fight him this year.

This fight may eventually happen because some of the prominent names in Philippine boxing are losing one by one, the one remaining now is Mark Magsayo but Magsayo is not Manny Pacquiao and he is in a division that is loaded with great boxers like Navarette, Lopez and Joe Cordina this is a tough time for Filipino boxers, there was a time that there were 5 Filipino World Champions, now there is none.


We were wrong; we thought that Ancajas was there to steal the belt of Takuma, but it turns out he was KO since he was too huge in the fight and might not have good conditioning. These are just excuses, though; we should give credit to the champion for making good preparation for the fight. He deserves this win, and we can see that he is not a dirty fighter.

For some of us who worried that the judges might manipulate the outcome, that wasn't a factor since the fight ended up in KO. Even if it didn't end up in KO, it was very obvious that Ancajas is not landing solid shots, and he would lose.

Now, we can only cheer for this Casimero vs Inoue fight to happen as our boxers are slowly going down.
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This is a bad night in boxing for the Filipinos two prominent Filipino fighters just lost tonight against two Japanese fighters, Sultan against Matsuda via first-round knockout, and Ancajas against Takuma Inoue, and every Filipino is now calling Casimero to step up and fight for a title against a Japanese possibly against Naoya Inoue, there is a call now that Casimero, and MP promotion to resolve their issues and make a deal for Inoue to fight him this year.

This fight may eventually happen because some of the prominent names in Philippine boxing are losing one by one, the one remaining now is Mark Magsayo but Magsayo is not Manny Pacquiao and he is in a division that is loaded with great boxers like Navarette, Lopez and Joe Cordina this is a tough time for Filipino boxers, there was a time that there were 5 Filipino World Champions, now there is none.
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Only Filipino boxing fans want this fight to happen including me but I agree that Casimero is no match for Naoya Inoue but still want to see what will happen just in case this happens. I'm not a fan of Casimero especially his attitude far different compared to MP. He's so boastful. And I think Bob Arum will not risk Naoya Inoue's record for Casimero's record.

Yes boxing is a business at some point but the passion is still there. Manny Pacquiao the Filipino pride, gave his all fashion to boxing and made the whole Filipino nation proud. He's like an Asian Bolt in Jamaica.
Exactly true. A lot of our fellow Filipinos are hungry to get the new Pacquiao or something and they’re pretty much vying for anyone out there would dare to try. Casimero’s got a good track record but Pacquiao is a once-in-a-lifetime instance which we may never even see again in the boxing ring. This fear and desperation of some fans to have the Philippines be cemented in boxing legacy’s what causes them to root on every single Filipino puncher out there, doesn’t matter if he’s even capable of standing his ground or not.

In any case, a case can still be made regarding the viability of this fight. Casimero’s got a lot to prove and much to gain after this fight, while Naoya’s innthe peak of his career and losing to someone barely known within the boxing scene internationally’s not gonna bode well for his career.

Honestly I’m just eager to see Inoue fight even more. The guy’s at his prime and we rarely see fighters like him here. For what it’s worth I’d personally be willing to see him beat up people while he’s still strong and powerful than calculate his fights and end up past his prime with little to prove for the world.
There are several Filipino boxers who are already trying out to climb on the ladder but its true that Filipinos are really that rooting for the next boxing legend but it seems no one
would really be able to get that 8 division world champion as those other boxers from other countries do failed on doing so too. WE cant really be able to make those conclusions that they
cant be able to do such thing but we do know that there would really be chance on everything but for Casimero then i dont think that he could really go with the path on what
 Pacquiao had able to attain. I do rather believe that Inoue would but since he's another nationality then it doesnt really count.
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Only Filipino boxing fans want this fight to happen including me but I agree that Casimero is no match for Naoya Inoue but still want to see what will happen just in case this happens. I'm not a fan of Casimero especially his attitude far different compared to MP. He's so boastful. And I think Bob Arum will not risk Naoya Inoue's record for Casimero's record.

Yes boxing is a business at some point but the passion is still there. Manny Pacquiao the Filipino pride, gave his all fashion to boxing and made the whole Filipino nation proud. He's like an Asian Bolt in Jamaica.
Exactly true. A lot of our fellow Filipinos are hungry to get the new Pacquiao or something and they’re pretty much vying for anyone out there would dare to try. Casimero’s got a good track record but Pacquiao is a once-in-a-lifetime instance which we may never even see again in the boxing ring. This fear and desperation of some fans to have the Philippines be cemented in boxing legacy’s what causes them to root on every single Filipino puncher out there, doesn’t matter if he’s even capable of standing his ground or not.

In any case, a case can still be made regarding the viability of this fight. Casimero’s got a lot to prove and much to gain after this fight, while Naoya’s innthe peak of his career and losing to someone barely known within the boxing scene internationally’s not gonna bode well for his career.

Honestly I’m just eager to see Inoue fight even more. The guy’s at his prime and we rarely see fighters like him here. For what it’s worth I’d personally be willing to see him beat up people while he’s still strong and powerful than calculate his fights and end up past his prime with little to prove for the world.
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Only Filipino boxing fans want this fight to happen including me but I agree that Casimero is no match for Naoya Inoue but still want to see what will happen just in case this happens. I'm not a fan of Casimero especially his attitude far different compared to MP. He's so boastful. And I think Bob Arum will not risk Naoya Inoue's record for Casimero's record.

We will never know until they fight in the ring. And that's why we are intrigue in the match-up. Inoue is unbeatable at this point, in his prime and twice undisputed in two divisions. But Casimero keeps running his mouth that telling us that he can beat Inoue. And so we can say that he has the tools to do that, he has power, knocking almost everyone out in the 118 lbs and they almost collide a few years ago.

So at the back of our minds, we boxing fans still wanting to see this fight. Maybe some of us wanted to see Inoue getting beat up by this Filipino. Or Inoue knocking out this brandish Casimero and settle all the doubts about him.
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Only Filipino boxing fans want this fight to happen including me but I agree that Casimero is no match for Naoya Inoue but still want to see what will happen just in case this happens. I'm not a fan of Casimero especially his attitude far different compared to MP. He's so boastful. And I think Bob Arum will not risk Naoya Inoue's record for Casimero's record.

Yes boxing is a business at some point but the passion is still there. Manny Pacquiao the Filipino pride, gave his all fashion to boxing and made the whole Filipino nation proud. He's like an Asian Bolt in Jamaica.
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He hasn't proven anything yet in this division, unlike Inoue. Maybe if he could go back to the bantamweight division, he might reign, but it's uncertain if his body can still maintain the right weight. In the higher division he is currently in, he has had little chance to fight the best. Despite facing just mediocre boxers, he still could not dominate, and some of his fights ended in controversy. It's just unlucky, but I think he still hasn't passed his prime.

No way he should return in Bantamweight. It's the major cause of his weight concerns that's why he ended up moving up instead. He will just waste time maintaining the required weight on the 118 and then, in the end, be disqualified.

He's already fading mate and we should accept that. He's not on his usual performance where the aggressiveness is clearly shown. See his last fight against an unranked boxer where even his opponent's name doesn't ring a bell in the boxing world and came from a country that is not known for establishing a product of popular boxers in history?

Unlike before during the hype of their first supposed clash with Naoya Inoue in 2020, I feel that Casimero will beat Inoue. But now, Inoue is more improved and I don't think Casimero will win if they will face each other now. Inoue not only maintained his strength since that first supposed fight with Casimero but became more deadly as well. Casimero on the other hand, now experiencing the effect of being inactive for a long in a professional fight aside from weight issues.
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^ As for violation on something that should be known already or they could simply check it out, then it do really shows on how irresponsible they are or something it was intentional.

#Point 1 - Its true that Casimero didnt prove out something well into his division.Yes, he's also a champion but not really that much on having that impact
#Point 2 - Tons of trashtalks then it is really that making that so much noise and hype. The more hate the more views they could get. lol

Boxing is business and its not shocking that they would really be doing their very best on hyping it out as much as possible.
The higher the hype and interest the bigger the money that they could get.
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This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.


well, casimero himself made this path for himself. if he was up to every fight way back, he should have already faced inoue before. but due to being overweight for his supposedly fight and other factors, some of his previous fights were canceled.

Casimero's team failed not ONCE but TWICE. It's not acceptable. First, the overweight issue and the Second, unaware of British Boxing Council terms. Maybe it's not his fault of becoming overweight but the being unaware of any Boxing terms in a country is bullshit.

That was a significant mistake they cannot undo. No excuses on that; they were aware, and yet they still violated the rules. It's called cheating, even though their intention was just to make the fight happen at the right weight. But they got caught, so they have to pay the price. However, there's no assurance yet that if Casimero did win that fight and kept the belt, Inoue would be up for a unification battle.

It's sad to see Casimero slowly fading away on his prime.

He hasn't proven anything yet in this division, unlike Inoue. Maybe if he could go back to the bantamweight division, he might reign, but it's uncertain if his body can still maintain the right weight. In the higher division he is currently in, he has had little chance to fight the best. Despite facing just mediocre boxers, he still could not dominate, and some of his fights ended in controversy. It's just unlucky, but I think he still hasn't passed his prime.

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We should already see Inoue vs Casimero if they are not arrogant.
I believe that isn't the main reason. Boxing is a business, and if promoters like a boxer who talks a lot, it can attract the attention of the fans, making it easier to market the event.
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This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.


well, casimero himself made this path for himself. if he was up to every fight way back, he should have already faced inoue before. but due to being overweight for his supposedly fight and other factors, some of his previous fights were canceled.

Casimero's team failed not ONCE but TWICE. It's not acceptable. First, the overweight issue and the Second, unaware of British Boxing Council terms. Maybe it's not his fault of becoming overweight but the being unaware of any Boxing terms in a country is bullshit.

It's sad to see Casimero slowly fading away on his prime. We should already see Inoue vs Casimero if they are not arrogant.
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This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.


well, casimero himself made this path for himself. if he was up to every fight way back, he should have already faced inoue before. but due to being overweight for his supposedly fight and other factors, some of his previous fights were canceled.
And that shows that he's too careless and at the same time he do have that kind of confidence on why he had messed up and this is something a behavior on which you shouldn't really be that tending to do
when you do have that upcoming match. This is why those are really indeed those missed opportunities on fight Inoue as one of those results. So its his mistake on really just that too confident
and some people do really hate up his trashtalker behavior. I dont know if this fight would really be pushed through or not. Is this fight arrangement final?
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This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.


well, casimero himself made this path for himself. if he was up to every fight way back, he should have already faced inoue before. but due to being overweight for his supposedly fight and other factors, some of his previous fights were canceled.

so yeah, for his boxing fans, they should not be bitter with the turn of events because it is not in any way fault of inoue for not facing him or at least a priority for inoue's camp to settle the score between them. now, inoue is on a different level and i don't think casimero's camp is grasping this fact that it is no easy feat for casimero to have a match with inoue.
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This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.
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But as we have noted already, he needs to show he camp of Inoue, if he really deserves a fight.

Meaning, give us something a big win against a rank fighter in this division and maybe Inoue will give him his chance.

That hasn't happen yet for Casimero. The most valid evidence that he was really winning an impressive fights is if his ranking is improving, right now, his ranking wouldn't make him a mandatory challenger for Inoue, so if Inoue will choose him, it could be a special treatment or people might criticize Inoue for choosing a fighter with lower ranking instead of those at the top as his challenger.


Inoue can do that, and I don't think it's a special treatment if that would help sell tickets for the fight. Inoue has not given Casimero a chance yet since their last supposed fight cancellation, so it's high time for him to give one after he defeated all his mandatory opponents, so it can give people a peace of mind knowing who is the better between the two.

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Casimero needs to continue winning so he'll get a chance to square up with Inoue before the latter moves up.
This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.
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But as we have noted already, he needs to show he camp of Inoue, if he really deserves a fight.

Meaning, give us something a big win against a rank fighter in this division and maybe Inoue will give him his chance.

That hasn't happen yet for Casimero. The most valid evidence that he was really winning an impressive fights is if his ranking is improving, right now, his ranking wouldn't make him a mandatory challenger for Inoue, so if Inoue will choose him, it could be a special treatment or people might criticize Inoue for choosing a fighter with lower ranking instead of those at the top as his challenger.

Casimero needs to continue winning so he'll get a chance to square up with Inoue before the latter moves up.
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So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.
If the team of Casimero really wants to fight Inoue at that time, they should urged Casimero to lose more weight but it looks like they also tolerate it.
Well, let's see if this fight will push through because I'm so eager to see a Filipino boxer to beat Inoue because this monster defeats every filipino boxers who are trying to beat him. Inoue is still at its peak and still young, hope that Casimero can counter this monster if ever.

Yes, but we should move forward already, he is a 122 lbs now and he want's to get a fight with Inoue. He doesn't need to lose weight or consider it as a issue right now because his first 2 fights as super bantamweight, he did make the weight.

But as we have noted already, he needs to show he camp of Inoue, if he really deserves a fight.

Meaning, give us something a big win against a rank fighter in this division and maybe Inoue will give him his chance.
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So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.
If the team of Casimero really wants to fight Inoue at that time, they should urged Casimero to lose more weight but it looks like they also tolerate it.
Well, let's see if this fight will push through because I'm so eager to see a Filipino boxer to beat Inoue because this monster defeats every filipino boxers who are trying to beat him. Inoue is still at its peak and still young, hope that Casimero can counter this monster if ever.
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I think Inoue is still interested because Casimero has that one belt that he needs, perhaps it was due to the pandemic, but I think Casimero fought Duke Micah that time and defend his belt and Casimero is supposedly go to England and fight Butler. But there were a lot of complications in the part of Casimero already, and maybe the issue with his trainer or with MP or the weight itself.

That was a costly mistake Casimero did. If he didn't let that belt stripped, he could have fight Inoue for a unification bout, but things happen, he loss his belt and Inoue loss his interest on fighting Casimero too. It's like we were rob because we know that only Casimero could potentially give Inoue a good challenge, but Casimero loss on technicalities on the ranking requirement that is not eligible to fight the champ, just a bad fate for him.

Anyhow, I agree that if everything depends on Casimero right now. If he wanted to get the attention of Inoue, he will have to be the mandatory at least in one of the division. Perhaps being a ex-champion of WBO, this is the organization that Casimero will have a good chance to be work it out and go up in ranks and then become the #1 fighter in that division and become the mandatory.
That might happen if he wins his next fight, but it seems like there was no schedule for him yet. Waiting for too long is not good for Inoue as he still have a lot to achieve, and most likely he'll just move up instead.
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So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.

Casimero made mistake but that wasn't the main reason why the fight didn't happen. Before that incident, Inoue could already fight Casimero if he wanted to because their fight was only postpone due to the pandemic, but when the pandemic is over, it seemed like he wasn't interested anymore.

Inoue will not fight Casimero, unless Casimero will become his mandatory challenger, and that's what Casimero has to work for now.

I think Inoue is still interested because Casimero has that one belt that he needs, perhaps it was due to the pandemic, but I think Casimero fought Duke Micah that time and defend his belt and Casimero is supposedly go to England and fight Butler. But there were a lot of complications in the part of Casimero already, and maybe the issue with his trainer or with MP or the weight itself.

Anyhow, I agree that if everything depends on Casimero right now. If he wanted to get the attention of Inoue, he will have to be the mandatory at least in one of the division. Perhaps being a ex-champion of WBO, this is the organization that Casimero will have a good chance to be work it out and go up in ranks and then become the #1 fighter in that division and become the mandatory.
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