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The only thing that will make that match possible is if there's a lot of money that's going to be involved and the right people will have their palms greased, there's no way that they're going to get that fight again quickly. I mean why are they so quick at having a rematch, didn't Inoue won the last fight with an astounding performance? Are they trying to dethrone the Monster as a champion? As much as I like to criticize what they've been doing, I think the boxing federations that's currently managing and making these fights possible needs a complete rework and clean house because the federation is so corrupt, the right boxers don't get the right fights because of the corruption.
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.
I don't know who Sam Goodman is but he is currently the number 1 in the ranking, followed by Neri then Casimero. Murodjon Akhmadaliev is just number 6 in the ranking, so I don't understand why Inoue had missed to mention Sam Goodman. Honestly, I don't know this guy, but I'm surprise he is in the number 1 ranking. So if Inoue will fight the challenger in WBO, he could fight Sam Goodman and then Casimero vs Nery, winners of both fight will afce each other, how's that sound?
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).
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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.

Luis Nery is the front runner to fight Inoue because he is the WBC ranked number 1 fighter, a mandatory fight of some sort but if Team Inoue opts out or doesn't want to fight Nery in Las Vegas as he is banned in Japan and they want to fight for a voluntary defense against Casimero which is very likely as Quadro Alas is the rank top 3 in the WBO rankings.

Casimero's chance of fighting Inoue this year is high because it's Team Inoue who floated his name to be one of their ward's opponents plus the taunting which might have affected Inoue hehe.

Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.
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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
But i do believe that Tapales would be much having that stamina compared to Casimero if we do really just based up into his previous fights and this is the biggest cons or flaw that i do saw on Casimero.
This guy sure loves to have some talks but i doubt that he could really be able to stood on what he had been talking trash against Inoue, i dont know if he do really mean it or really just trying out to hype the fight.
I dont see for  this boxer or fighter to be able to get toe to toe with Inoue in terms of speed and power then i could say that he might be the one would really be sleeping on the canvass.

Yes, he had the power but i doubt on the speed and the stamina. If he would be able to make out some long rounds.If he could really be able to make some nasty counter
and able to survive further rounds and made out some solid shots then he might have the chance but i do still highly doubt that for it to happen.
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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.

Luis Nery is the front runner to fight Inoue because he is the WBC ranked number 1 fighter, a mandatory fight of some sort but if Team Inoue opts out or doesn't want to fight Nery in Las Vegas as he is banned in Japan and they want to fight for a voluntary defense against Casimero which is very likely as Quadro Alas is the rank top 3 in the WBO rankings.

Casimero's chance of fighting Inoue this year is high because it's Team Inoue who floated his name to be one of their ward's opponents plus the taunting which might have affected Inoue hehe.
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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
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Casimero's team has to make him fight this year to rank up, he has to display the most extraordinary KO to impress Arum so he may have the chance to challenge Inoue because if not then \Inoue will just leave him behind and move to 126.

I do agree, so far after he move to 122 lbs, his fights are not that extraordinary. His first fight was a controversy against a Japanese, it was a technical draw. And if I'm not mistaken, it was overuled. And then his fight in Manila was also not that impressive as he failed to win by knockout.

His build I think doesn't fit to be in the heavier division so if he finds his weight is already slowing his punches, he might just stop moving up. 130 lbs I think is already too much. And Casimero could chase that limit.

Could be and then and most likely 122 lbs could be his last weight as he will have difficulty at 126 against taller fighter and obviously the heavier fighter.

But let's see if his Japanese manager can get into Inoue next year. Or they could be instrumental at least as both are Japanese and maybe Arum will also agree with this fight.
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Lets see if Casimero would really be able to stand into his trashtalking against Inoue or those are really just that pure talks but cant be able to finish it out.  Cool
That we don't know yet. I think the main concern now is for casimero to get a fight with Inoue, and with his current promoter, there seems to be no chance or less chance it is happening. So if he wants to make this into reality, he needs to go back to MP promotion as their president are willing to help him.

Lots had been liking to support Casimero against Inoue but since Inoue do say up some words about being not interested then he do knows
that he isnt on the level of his so he just simply ignore it out.

Did you watch the interview? He mentioned 3 names that he'll like to fight, and that includes Casimero. As to who would he fight first, that's still a question.

If Inoue think that Casimero is not on his level, then why would he fight boxers that are also not on his level before?

Casimero has won championships before, I think it's more than enough to prove that he is worthly to get accepted as a challeger of Inoue, unless there's something we don't know from Inoue's camp on why he would deny the fight.
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This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

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Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue

Talks about Casimero vs Inoue have been going on for long time and many fans of both parties hope that they can meet in fight to prove who is the strongest and can get the title they are fighting for.
Maybe this will be like the Inoue vs Tapales fight because Inoue himself is still truly an undefeated boxer after successfully knocking Tapales out.
We won't know whether they can actually meet this year but if it is true that Casimero wants to sign contract with MP Promotion then it is very likely that this year we will see how the fight between the Filipino boxer vs Inoue, the knockout monster from Japan.
But if this fight happens then I will choose Inoue as the favorite and of course this is not without reason.
Inoue is boxer who can always take advantage of opportunities well and he can make his opponent experience several mistakes which can be used to deliver blow that ends in knockout victory.
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Casimero's team has to make him fight this year to rank up, he has to display the most extraordinary KO to impress Arum so he may have the chance to challenge Inoue because if not then \Inoue will just leave him behind and move to 126.
His build I think doesn't fit to be in the heavier division so if he finds his weight is already slowing his punches, he might just stop moving up. 130 lbs I think is already too much. And Casimero could chase that limit.

Right now, this is what they need because they cannot just simply convince the promoters to give them the fight if they don't have any value because of how they are showing the fans their low-class skills. It's such a waste of time for Inoue to fight him at this current level but that will gonna change if he starts to knock out all the opponents that came across him inside the ring before a possible chance with Inoue. They really need to focus on building him the right way again because if they don't, that fight will be forever speculation.
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It may look like an interesting fight to watch even for neutral boxing fans but I seriously doubt this is going to happen. I can see some members already mentioned his declining performance from his previous fights so Casimero likely losing his next bouts this year while Inoue will continue to dominate. It just doesn't make sense when he hasn't really earned that right to fight the best in the division. I would like to be proven wrong.

There are reasons for his declining performance, one of these is too much exposure to social media, taking his brother as his main trainer, and not seriously training, but if he is under the MP Promotions things can change and we will all see the Casimero that we once saw as a dangerous and hungry fighter, his performance may be declining but so far he has not been beaten the last who beat him was Jonas Sultan and this was 6 years ago, unless he is knock out or someone beat him decisively, it's still worth for any promotion to take Casimero.

Even his performance do looks good in others eyes but its impossible that we cant really be able to compare on whose much better. Casimero do really loves on trashtalking and telling that he could beat up Inoue
but if we do tend to look at on his past fight performance on which lacking of stamina kind of problems seems pretty obvious then we can really say that he wont really be able to last up against Inoue.
If this one would be pushed through for this year 2024 for the said fight then it would really be definitely a fight on which everybody is really that been excited about.

Lets see if Casimero would really be able to stand into his trashtalking against Inoue or those are really just that pure talks but cant be able to finish it out.  Cool
Lots had been liking to support Casimero against Inoue but since Inoue do say up some words about being not interested then he do knows
that he isnt on the level of his so he just simply ignore it out.
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It may look like an interesting fight to watch even for neutral boxing fans but I seriously doubt this is going to happen. I can see some members already mentioned his declining performance from his previous fights so Casimero likely losing his next bouts this year while Inoue will continue to dominate. It just doesn't make sense when he hasn't really earned that right to fight the best in the division. I would like to be proven wrong.

There are reasons for his declining performance, one of these is too much exposure to social media, taking his brother as his main trainer, and not seriously training, but if he is under the MP Promotions things can change and we will all see the Casimero that we once saw as a dangerous and hungry fighter, his performance may be declining but so far he has not been beaten the last who beat him was Jonas Sultan and this was 6 years ago, unless he is knock out or someone beat him decisively, it's still worth for any promotion to take Casimero.
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It may look like an interesting fight to watch even for neutral boxing fans but I seriously doubt this is going to happen. I can see some members already mentioned his declining performance from his previous fights so Casimero likely losing his next bouts this year while Inoue will continue to dominate. It just doesn't make sense when he hasn't really earned that right to fight the best in the division. I would like to be proven wrong.

At least believe that this fight is gonna happen, although with a slim chance only.

Inoue during his interview mentioned that he is gonna stay with the current division, that means he'll have to fight mandatory challengers and maybe give Casimero some special treatment. It's not that Casimero's decline of performance is the reason IMO, it's just that Inoue is trying to go for an easier opponent.
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It may look like an interesting fight to watch even for neutral boxing fans but I seriously doubt this is going to happen. I can see some members already mentioned his declining performance from his previous fights so Casimero likely losing his next bouts this year while Inoue will continue to dominate. It just doesn't make sense when he hasn't really earned that right to fight the best in the division. I would like to be proven wrong.
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Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.

"Styles make a fight", this is a saying in boxing that would not die. Casimero and Tapales have contrasting style though Casimero's last two fights were not impressive but ge got that one punch that could change the fight on his favor.

Casimero is a different fighter compared to Tapales and the other boxers that Inoue defeated.
People seemed to forget that Casimero is a 3 division world champion (correct me if I'm wrong), and they are underesimating him. But let's cut this long speculation, I mean, why would Inoue give a go signal so this will be over soon?

The only hurdle here is if Casimero is willing to go back to MP Promotions as he is well taken cared of his current promoters as i see it.

I won't disagree with you on that, but the question is, Did Casimero get big fights under his current promotion?
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This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

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Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue


I haven't check on the link but it's weird, I mean Casimero has bolted out from MP already, has a Japanese manager with him and they got him 2 fights at 122 lbs although the result is not that great for Inoue.

So it means that Casimero has to swallow his pride again and join MP before he can get a fight with Inoue?

And it also means that his Japanese manager can't do it against his fellow countrymen? Something is not right now, not sure why Sean Gibbons is still spewing Casimero's name when obviously he is not with them anymore. I think their Japanese manager can do that as well, get to Inoue and it's much easier as there will be no language barrier, in my opinion.
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This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.


If the Casimero brothers are dead serious about getting the Inoue to fight then he should take this offer, swallow their pride, and work with MP promotions again, you cannot get the Inoue to fight by just daring the Inoue camps and posting on social media that he is the one who can beat Inoue when looking on his last three fights he is nowhere on his best form, people think that he just want to make money from Inoue, he is a fading fighters and all his last three fights are not good that is why he is out of Inoue's radar

He needs to get under the MP Promotions he is going downhill if he cannot he will be forgotten and he also needs to get rid of his brother as his main trainer he needs a veteran who can lead him back to his former shape, we'll follow this development if he will agree to work with MP promotions again.
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Following his last title defense of his WBO bantamweight belt against Guillermo Rigondaeux in Carson, California, everything went downhill for Casimero as he eventually had a falling out with MP Promotions and Gibbons, who had worked with him for almost a decade.
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Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.

"Styles make a fight", this is a saying in boxing that would not die. Casimero and Tapales have contrasting style though Casimero's last two fights were not impressive but ge got that one punch that could change the fight on his favor.

The only hurdle here is if Casimero is willing to go back to MP Promotions as he is well taken cared of his current promoters as i see it.
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