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That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
Even before when he was still a champion he already starting trash-talking Inoue, so there's nothing new here. The only problem of Casimero is his ranking and that reflects the quality of wins he hand in his previous fight, maybe more fights for him to polish his standing and who knows, he might become a mandatory challenger while Inoue has not decided to leave the division yet.

For doing that he already caught the attention of Inoue but the problem with Casimero is he doesn't have anything to bet so Inoue's camp will get an interest to make their fight to happen. But they can't get anything from him that's why its really bad that we can't see their fight to happen. Plus the bad performance shown by Casimero on his last fight contribute for Inoue's camp for not letting that fight to happen since many people see how bad really it is so its expect now that Casimero is now out of their track.


This is the 5 target fights that Inoue camps target to happen https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-next-fight-five-opponents-tank-lomachenko/4b45fb202606041d1e5b15ee and to bad no Casimero's name mentioned there.
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That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
Even before when he was still a champion he already starting trash-talking Inoue, so there's nothing new here. The only problem of Casimero is his ranking and that reflects the quality of wins he hand in his previous fight, maybe more fights for him to polish his standing and who knows, he might become a mandatory challenger while Inoue has not decided to leave the division yet.
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Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
News between Casimero vs. Inoue, has become a hot topic of conversation among loyal supporters of both parties, supporters each claim that each of their boxing idols is the best, Here, in other news, there are many comments that we can see on Casimero's Facebook page, he posted a challenging video, it looks serious and a little too arrogant of Casimero towards Inoue.

I hope boxing between Casimero vs. Inoue could become a reality in the coming year, there is an interesting point that I see in this.
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"All my loyal supporters here say that no one can beat you (Inoue) except me," said Casimero.

This is a statement from Casemiro's supporters, but there has been no interesting reply to Inoue's loyal supporters, it will be interesting to see the replies from Inoue's supporters.
That's how arrogant he is, but isn't it normal in boxing? I mean, they would do some trash talk so they will be noticed, and I find it very effective for him since we are talking about him. On the 3 boxers, (including Casimero) that was mentioned, I'm sure fans would love to see Casimero to go first although he isn't the priority according to Inoue's camp or Top Rank prom.

That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
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Looks like its getting more impossible for this fight to takes place any time soon but we wanted to see this match takes place anytime it is available .

I for now will accumulate money to use as betting here if goes possible in the future.

Maybe it will not happen anytime soon but I don't think it's impossible to happen. As long as Casimero will not retire and he will continue to follow Inoue then I believe the time will come that they will eventually meet. Casimero is a quality fighter but it's just unfortunate he doesn't have a good ranking, but his ranking will grow as long as he remains active and of course will continue winning.

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There's hope for the Inoue - Casimero fight, Inoue floated the idea, he will soon leave the super Bantamweight division, and the best way to leave a mark on that division and welcome his coming in the Featherweight division is to beat the fighter who's very eager to fight him.

Their supposed schedule was canceled due to the pandemic and it created hype during that time, It is about time that the Inoue camp gives Casimero a chance to prove himself worthy of the challenges because so many videos of Casimero he keeps criticizing Inoue for avoiding him.

If he doesn't give Casimero a chance, Quatro Alas will keep criticizing him even if Inoue goes up in the featherweight division, It is on Inoue call to stop this criticism


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Inoue himself floated the idea of a voluntary title defense versus former three-division titlist John Riel Casimero as a third fight for 2024. Mr. Ohashi was not quite as giddy over the matchup, though Inoue views the matchup as unfinished business; they were due to meet in an April 2020 bantamweight unification clash in Las Vegas which was canceled due to the initial wave of the global pandemic.
Team Inoue Eyes Tokyo Dome, Saudi Arabia As Hosting Locations For Planned Three-Fight 2024 Campaign
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This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

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Last or first, signing with Pacquiao's team will definitely shoot up his chances of getting fights and being recognized by the people around him, and with the connections that the former pound-for-pound king has over different institutions in the boxing world there's a high chance that he'll make the fight happen sometime in the near future. It's just a matter of how Casimero should showcase himself at this point.

People will always gun for the kingleader's head, but it's those that come close to getting the kill that would really cement their names in the history of the game. Inoue's in his prime now and there's good chances that Casimero's not gonna win this, but if he shows himself in a way where he won't look like a total laughingstock and actually give the people and his opponent a good fight, we might even see more Casimero fights in the future. Pacquiao became one of the most respected athletes in the history of boxing not because he was undefeated, but because he has the skills to perform and the fighting spirit to keep going even when the odds are stacked against him. I don't really see Pacquiao in Casimero but who knows? We'll just have to wait and see for now I guess until the fight does happen. Till then we can only speculate.
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I don't know who Sam Goodman is but he is currently the number 1 in the ranking, followed by Neri then Casimero. Murodjon Akhmadaliev is just number 6 in the ranking, so I don't understand why Inoue had missed to mention Sam Goodman. Honestly, I don't know this guy, but I'm surprise he is in the number 1 ranking. So if Inoue will fight the challenger in WBO, he could fight Sam Goodman and then Casimero vs Nery, winners of both fight will afce each other, how's that sound?
Sounds more possible than a direct fight of Casimero against Inoue.
But let's not forget, Murodjon Akhmadaliev just won against Kevin Gonzalez for the WBA super bantamweight title eliminator so he has more chance to fight Inoue first than others.
Now Inoue said he will stick in the super bantamweight division for now but I doubt it will be that long. Maybe he will just defend it twice or three times and if Sam Goodman will be next, even if Casimero signs with MP, he will have a hard time having that chance against Inoue. Unless, like what others mentioned, if the prize pool will be too sweet that Inoue's camp cannot decline. Money can control everything, and even these organizations will undoubtedly accept it especially if they can make a lot of money from PPV and ticket sales and other ways to profit from it.
Casimero is only glorious in his country but he might be unknown to others, they would need to boost him first either through winning fights or making a trend for him on social media. I mean, that had been the way of boxers now to boost their popularity.
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Looks like its getting more impossible for this fight to takes place any time soon but we wanted to see this match takes place anytime it is available .

I for now will accumulate money to use as betting here if goes possible in the future.

Maybe it will not happen anytime soon but I don't think it's impossible to happen. As long as Casimero will not retire and he will continue to follow Inoue then I believe the time will come that they will eventually meet. Casimero is a quality fighter but it's just unfortunate he doesn't have a good ranking, but his ranking will grow as long as he remains active and of course will continue winning.

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Looks like its getting more impossible for this fight to takes place any time soon but we wanted to see this match takes place anytime it is available .

I for now will accumulate money to use as betting here if goes possible in the future.
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According to recent reports, Naoya Inoue and Luis Nery have already agreed on a deal for their match in Japan. I figured Inoue would not battle Nery in the USA for this championship match. Perhaps this match will be viewed as obligatory by the WBC which implies that the WBO is the last remaining organization that has no mandatory challenger for its belt.
The ban was lift just that quick, it's quite questionable but we know the intention that they want Inoue to fight in Japan (still). Maybe on the next division when Inoue will move up, we will see him fighting in the US, right now, they want to ensure that Inoue will not lose or will be cheated, whatever they are thinking, it's for the best interest of their fighter who are prediction to make a history.

To land Inoue, Casimero can match with boxers in the WBO rank list and perform perfectly. The WBO would examine it and if luck is with Casimero, he would be allowed to become its mandatory challenger and it would be on Inoue to grant or leave the belt behind because there are plans to climb another weight class.

Casimero is currently ranked at number 3 if we are talking of WBO.

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Sam Goodman
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If Inoue is up for the top challenger, I think it should be Sam Goodman, which personally I'm not familiar with this boxer.
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.

One thing Team Casimero could do to get a match with Inoue is to a WBO elimination fight with Sam Goodman and the winner will be the number 1 rank and the mandatory challenger for the WBO belt. I don't if this could be done as Sam Goodman is also the mandatory challenger for the IBF belt. I would say that it's only luck for Casimero to land a fight with Inoue with the recent performance that he had.
According to recent reports, Naoya Inoue and Luis Nery have already agreed on a deal for their match in Japan. I figured Inoue would not battle Nery in the USA for this championship match. Perhaps this match will be viewed as obligatory by the WBC which implies that the WBO is the last remaining organization that has no mandatory challenger for its belt.

To land Inoue, Casimero can match with boxers in the WBO rank list and perform perfectly. The WBO would examine it and if luck is with Casimero, he would be allowed to become its mandatory challenger and it would be on Inoue to grant or leave the belt behind because there are plans to climb another weight class.
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Inoue already showed his interest on fighting Casimero but its a matter of when. 

Aside from Casimero, Inoue still would like to fight Neri and Akhmadaliev. So if Inoue will prioritizes the two, most likely Casimero will not be able to fight Inoue this year as Inoue only fights twice in a year, his max, based on his boxing records. Worst if Inoue will both beat Akhmadaliev and Neri, and will decide to move up, that would left Casimero chasing Inoue. In that case Casimero could become a champion in the super bantamweight if Inoue leave, but he'll not be able to prove himself against Inoue.

So many things are going to happen this year, Casimero should do the chasing here since he is the challenger in his next fight he should show improvement by knocking out whoever his opponent is, his last two fights were not good so the Inoue team put him out of the radar, Casimero is all talks, while Inoue is eyeing who are the top boxers in his division if you're the champion you will look who is the closest contender and some champions cherry picked but I don't think Inoue will cherry pick fighters.

If he can't secure a fight against Inoue, and Inoue decides to move up, it is not Inoue's fault so he should just shut up and just concentrate on getting a title,  he blew it by going out on MP promotions who can give him decent fights and are good in securing big fights

A KO will only happen if he will stop fighting Japanes oppenents, especially if the fight is held in Japan. The last fight of Casimero is quite controversial, although we've seen him slowed down a bit by I believe the fight should have ended a KO on his favorite, but it was declared as no contest.

You know, his last fight with a Japanese prior to Yukinori Oguni was decided as no contest but later on it was change to KO since Ryo Akaho he really loss on that fight. You know, if without the "best actor" performance, Casimero could probably have won another KO.
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If he can't secure a fight against Inoue, and Inoue decides to move up, it is not Inoue's fault so he should just shut up and just concentrate on getting a title,  he blew it by going out on MP promotions who can give him decent fights and are good in securing big fights

John Riel Casimero can secure a big fight even without the help of MP Promotions during the time he's a champion. Everything goes well but their camp blew the rules of the Britain Boxing Council before the supposed fight between Casimero and Paul Butler. If only Casimero's team didn't mess up, we already see now who's the winner between Casimero and Naoya Inoue.

It's hard to get Casimero on the line against Inoue even MP Promotions will work on it today. Naoya Inoue has nothing to gain if he fights Casimero as a challenger. For Casimero to be considered, he needs to be a top contender. He can't just go directly with undisputed champion not unless Top Rank and Inoue will push on it but that's impossible.
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Inoue already showed his interest on fighting Casimero but its a matter of when. 

Aside from Casimero, Inoue still would like to fight Neri and Akhmadaliev. So if Inoue will prioritizes the two, most likely Casimero will not be able to fight Inoue this year as Inoue only fights twice in a year, his max, based on his boxing records. Worst if Inoue will both beat Akhmadaliev and Neri, and will decide to move up, that would left Casimero chasing Inoue. In that case Casimero could become a champion in the super bantamweight if Inoue leave, but he'll not be able to prove himself against Inoue.

So many things are going to happen this year, Casimero should do the chasing here since he is the challenger in his next fight he should show improvement by knocking out whoever his opponent is, his last two fights were not good so the Inoue team put him out of the radar, Casimero is all talks, while Inoue is eyeing who are the top boxers in his division if you're the champion you will look who is the closest contender and some champions cherry picked but I don't think Inoue will cherry pick fighters.

If he can't secure a fight against Inoue, and Inoue decides to move up, it is not Inoue's fault so he should just shut up and just concentrate on getting a title,  he blew it by going out on MP promotions who can give him decent fights and are good in securing big fights
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So impressive win, a big knockout and maybe the camp of Inoue will say yes. But I don't know if Gibbons will be in the middle though, and I don't think that Casimero will just go and repair his relationship with MP or Gibbons himself.

Inoue already showed his interest on fighting Casimero but its a matter of when. 

Aside from Casimero, Inoue still would like to fight Neri and Akhmadaliev. So if Inoue will prioritizes the two, most likely Casimero will not be able to fight Inoue this year as Inoue only fights twice in a year, his max, based on his boxing records. Worst if Inoue will both beat Akhmadaliev and Neri, and will decide to move up, that would left Casimero chasing Inoue. In that case Casimero could become a champion in the super bantamweight if Inoue leave, but he'll not be able to prove himself against Inoue.
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This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

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A fight with Inoue represents a lot of money, that's why Gibbons is suddenly interested in working with Casimero again. Neither Gibbons, nor MP Promotions, represent Inoue so they have no power to actually make that fight happen. In the past Gibbons has prevented good fights from happening like Loma vs. Salido and Ryan Garcia vs. Pitbull Cruz because he was greedy and wanted too much money. Casimero can get the Inoue fight on his own as long as he can win impressively in his next fights.
And with that argument, we really need to see who's Casimero fighting next and he should really win big or expressive regardless of who he is fighting next. He can't just go and leap over the likes of Neri and Akhmadaliev that has been mentioned by Inoue's camp for now.

So impressive win, a big knockout and maybe the camp of Inoue will say yes. But I don't know if Gibbons will be in the middle though, and I don't think that Casimero will just go and repair his relationship with MP or Gibbons himself.
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This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

Read, for more story here/

Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue


A fight with Inoue represents a lot of money, that's why Gibbons is suddenly interested in working with Casimero again. Neither Gibbons, nor MP Promotions, represent Inoue so they have no power to actually make that fight happen. In the past Gibbons has prevented good fights from happening like Loma vs. Salido and Ryan Garcia vs. Pitbull Cruz because he was greedy and wanted too much money. Casimero can get the Inoue fight on his own as long as he can win impressively in his next fights.
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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.
He will go on like this until he gets the fight, I'm surprised that the Inoue camp is not annoyed by Casimero's trick, it seems like they get used to it and just concentrate on whoever their promotion and the organization will give it to him, but as this point, he will have to toe the line and wait for Inoue to give him attention after all he is the undisputed champion he gets to say who he wants to fight.

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However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shots. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
Against Neri, it is going to be a good fight, but Inoue is at his strongest and he is very comfortable in that weight so I cannot think of anyone in that division who can beat Inoue, he is just so good that he is being compared to champions in the higher divisions like Tank Davis.

For now, Inoue is their best money maker so it wouldn't make sense if they match him to someone who could possibly knock him out. It will ruin the record too. Inoue hasn't been knocking some top-rated Mexican boxers yet, they will likely want to see more of these than having him knocked out by Casimero.

Keeping him winning more fights must be a plan for this guy until he reaches certain limits where he finds it difficult to defeat someone.
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There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.
He will go on like this until he gets the fight, I'm surprised that the Inoue camp is not annoyed by Casimero's trick, it seems like they get used to it and just concentrate on whoever their promotion and the organization will give it to him, but as this point, he will have to toe the line and wait for Inoue to give him attention after all he is the undisputed champion he gets to say who he wants to fight.

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However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shots. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
Against Neri, it is going to be a good fight, but Inoue is at his strongest and he is very comfortable in that weight so I cannot think of anyone in that division who can beat Inoue, he is just so good that he is being compared to champions in the higher divisions like Tank Davis.
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The only thing that will make that match possible is if there's a lot of money that's going to be involved and the right people will have their palms greased, there's no way that they're going to get that fight again quickly.

It's not a concern anymore, they build a hype for a long time so people already know if this will happen they are gonna grab a PPV subscription for this. Usually, it's on the PPV that generate a lot of money as it's worldwide, and before that Tapales vs Inoue fight which I think does not generate a lot of money, this Inoue vs Casimero has been rumored already.

I hope it will happen this year, there's plenty of time to make it to reality, so hang tight and we will eventually see a fight where Inoue would not easily dominate his opponent. (I believe on that).
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Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.

One thing Team Casimero could do to get a match with Inoue is to a WBO elimination fight with Sam Goodman and the winner will be the number 1 rank and the mandatory challenger for the WBO belt. I don't if this could be done as Sam Goodman is also the mandatory challenger for the IBF belt. I would say that it's only luck for Casimero to land a fight with Inoue with the recent performance that he had.
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