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So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.

Casimero made mistake but that wasn't the main reason why the fight didn't happen. Before that incident, Inoue could already fight Casimero if he wanted to because their fight was only postpone due to the pandemic, but when the pandemic is over, it seemed like he wasn't interested anymore.

I could agree with that because it seems like casimero was the one that is blamed on why the fight didn't happen.
This was announce in 2022.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/1/23/21078189/naoya-inoue-john-riel-casimero-agreed-terms-april-25th-unification-espn-boxing-news

And I believe early in 2022 fights are already allowed, and at the same year Casimero was stripped with his title. If Inoue fight Casimero as soon as boxing are allowed, that could not happen anymore and we will know who is the better between the two. We would not be talking about that potential fight now.

That was a disappoint fact, people were not happy with the action of Inoue's camp as they didn't make the fight resume. If it's postpone only, then that should have happen after everything was okay or back in business. However, they have other plans, they like to go on an easy route and they succeeded on that. Boxing is probably a game of mind as well, I mean, disregard what people say as long as there's an opportunity for an easy fight, that should be taken, and with that Inoue vs Casimero is likely not gonna happen.

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Inoue will not fight Casimero, unless Casimero will become his mandatory challenger, and that's what Casimero has to work for now.

He is now the champion, he can play his card as he is the one dictating what's going to happen, and who he will fight with. Casimero being the mandatory challenger is not enough for him to secure a fight as Inoue could make a decision to move up.

That's the another valid move to avoid Casimero. Inoue has all the reasons to move up as he already became an undisputed champion in the current division his reigning. But you know, people will continue to speculate, and that will not stop until Inoue gives Casimero that fight he wants ever since.

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So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.

Casimero made mistake but that wasn't the main reason why the fight didn't happen. Before that incident, Inoue could already fight Casimero if he wanted to because their fight was only postpone due to the pandemic, but when the pandemic is over, it seemed like he wasn't interested anymore.

I could agree with that because it seems like casimero was the one that is blamed on why the fight didn't happen.
This was announce in 2022.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/1/23/21078189/naoya-inoue-john-riel-casimero-agreed-terms-april-25th-unification-espn-boxing-news

And I believe early in 2022 fights are already allowed, and at the same year Casimero was stripped with his title. If Inoue fight Casimero as soon as boxing are allowed, that could not happen anymore and we will know who is the better between the two. We would not be talking about that potential fight now.

Quote from: Finestream on February 06, 2024, 07:28:44 AM

Inoue will not fight Casimero, unless Casimero will become his mandatory challenger, and that's what Casimero has to work for now.

He is now the champion, he can play his card as he is the one dictating what's going to happen, and who he will fight with. Casimero being the mandatory challenger is not enough for him to secure a fight as Inoue could make a decision to move up.

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Quote from: Dave1 on February 06, 2024, 07:21:10 AM

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So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.

Casimero made mistake but that wasn't the main reason why the fight didn't happen. Before that incident, Inoue could already fight Casimero if he wanted to because their fight was only postpone due to the pandemic, but when the pandemic is over, it seemed like he wasn't interested anymore.

Inoue will not fight Casimero, unless Casimero will become his mandatory challenger, and that's what Casimero has to work for now.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 05, 2024, 08:47:51 AM

Quote from: stadus on February 05, 2024, 07:02:01 AM

So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.

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Quote from: stadus on February 05, 2024, 07:02:01 AM

So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

For now this is just a rumor, we have to wait for the official announcement before we further discuss this with its dedicated thread. This Inoue vs Casimero fight is just also a rumor as Inoue is fighting Nery, and after that Inoue didn't officially announce on who he will fight next ( provided he wins).

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

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Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.

I don't know where Casimero or how he thinks that Tapales is not competing with Inoue when they have the fight. Obviously, Tapales is trying his best, he even has some good rounds to boot and hit Inoue. But Naoya chin is very strong that not even he hits him solidly, Inoue is just eating it. So it's not right for Casimero to criticized his fellow countryman just because he lost to Inoue. And with that, he could also be criticized with the way he is fighting at 122 lbs, two fights and we are not that impressive and it could be the reason why he may not get his fight with Inoue. Unless he wins impressively next, but still it will be Nery that will fight Inoue.

That's his own opinion, as we also have ours in terms of what Tapales shows in that fight. He might think that he just want to survived or anything. But Tapales shows heart that time and even if he was knockdown early, he goes on and fight with his own pride as a Filipino and Casimero should take note of that.

And what you have said, you can also have your own opinion on him at his fight at 122 lbs and how brandish he can think that he can beat Inoue when it was just talk for now. We will see how he will do if there is a possible fight between the two. He should work his competition though, and give us what others says, a impressive win so that he the camp of Inoue will take notice of him and not like just using his mouth to trash talk his way to a fight with the current pound for pound fighter (at least for me).

I'm sure everyone here saw the fight. Although Tapales have hit Inoue but it wasn't a solid shot, he was just trying to score and then defend so Inoue could not hit him back. However, what he was doing as a strategy doesn't help him as Inoue felt his power and thought he can handle the power of Tapales so in the later rounds Inoue is just attacking him.

Tapales is simply outwork by Inoue, he just doesn't have the speed to evade Inoue's attack, so maybe Tapales should have gambled and get more aggressive as for sure as long as he would hit Inoue, the latter would feel his power and might not bully him on the ring. There's no take two for this one, although he tried his bets but it wasn't enough and rematch is not needed anymore since it will only have the same result. So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

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Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.

I don't know where Casimero or how he thinks that Tapales is not competing with Inoue when they have the fight. Obviously, Tapales is trying his best, he even has some good rounds to boot and hit Inoue. But Naoya chin is very strong that not even he hits him solidly, Inoue is just eating it. So it's not right for Casimero to criticized his fellow countryman just because he lost to Inoue. And with that, he could also be criticized with the way he is fighting at 122 lbs, two fights and we are not that impressive and it could be the reason why he may not get his fight with Inoue. Unless he wins impressively next, but still it will be Nery that will fight Inoue.

That's his own opinion, as we also have ours in terms of what Tapales shows in that fight. He might think that he just want to survived or anything. But Tapales shows heart that time and even if he was knockdown early, he goes on and fight with his own pride as a Filipino and Casimero should take note of that.

And what you have said, you can also have your own opinion on him at his fight at 122 lbs and how brandish he can think that he can beat Inoue when it was just talk for now. We will see how he will do if there is a possible fight between the two. He should work his competition though, and give us what others says, a impressive win so that he the camp of Inoue will take notice of him and not like just using his mouth to trash talk his way to a fight with the current pound for pound fighter (at least for me).

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Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.

I don't know where Casimero or how he thinks that Tapales is not competing with Inoue when they have the fight. Obviously, Tapales is trying his best, he even has some good rounds to boot and hit Inoue. But Naoya chin is very strong that not even he hits him solidly, Inoue is just eating it. So it's not right for Casimero to criticized his fellow countryman just because he lost to Inoue. And with that, he could also be criticized with the way he is fighting at 122 lbs, two fights and we are not that impressive and it could be the reason why he may not get his fight with Inoue. Unless he wins impressively next, but still it will be Nery that will fight Inoue.

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There is no more discussion about Inoue vs Casimero if Tapales wins as that would say that Casimero has past his prime and he is not ready for a monster Inoue. Maybe that time Casimero will stop trash talking or criticizing Inoue because he know in himself that he isn't on the level of the monster.

Hopefully positive things will happen for Casimero and Inoue, so this fight will happen, maybe not this year, but could be next year.

That's not gonna happen because Casimero will not allow to lose against Tapales whom we all saw that his power is not enough to KO an opponent. Casimero is very confident now, and we witness in his previous fights that he really has power, sometimes he was just reckless that his fight would result to no contest. I hope this rumor will come into reality as we haven't seen Casimero fight yet this year, maybe it's too early but first quarter would be fine so Casimero can still prepare for another fight if it's not gonna be Inoue next.

Past his prime? I dont think that even into his Prime form or days it wont really be that still enough on beating up Inoue. Sorry to say but this dude is really just that only good for trashtalks.

Yes, he might have the power but he doesnt have the stamina and technicality on how he fights which is way far if we do compared out into Inoue's.
So if there are no talks about possible fight about Casimero against Inoue. Then how about those 3 boxers that Inoue will fight for this year?
Are those informations that not finalized? If it is, then it is really just that sad for Casimero fans out there.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 29, 2024, 07:40:36 AM

There is no more discussion about Inoue vs Casimero if Tapales wins as that would say that Casimero has past his prime and he is not ready for a monster Inoue. Maybe that time Casimero will stop trash talking or criticizing Inoue because he know in himself that he isn't on the level of the monster.

Hopefully positive things will happen for Casimero and Inoue, so this fight will happen, maybe not this year, but could be next year.

That's not gonna happen because Casimero will not allow to lose against Tapales whom we all saw that his power is not enough to KO an opponent. Casimero is very confident now, and we witness in his previous fights that he really has power, sometimes he was just reckless that his fight would result to no contest. I hope this rumor will come into reality as we haven't seen Casimero fight yet this year, maybe it's too early but first quarter would be fine so Casimero can still prepare for another fight if it's not gonna be Inoue next.

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Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.

Then I guess we should also create a Casimero vs Tapales speculation thread, since this fight( Inoue vs Casimero ) is unlikely to happen now that Inoue is fighting Nery. The only chance Casimero could fight Inoue is if he is next in line to Nery, but based on the ranking he isn't, and since Inoue mostly fights twice a year only, then Casimero's fight is not gonna happen this year.

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If Tapales will win, then the speculation about Inoue avoiding Casimero would become invalid.

There is no more discussion about Inoue vs Casimero if Tapales wins as that would say that Casimero has past his prime and he is not ready for a monster Inoue. Maybe that time Casimero will stop trash talking or criticizing Inoue because he know in himself that he isn't on the level of the monster.

Hopefully positive things will happen for Casimero and Inoue, so this fight will happen, maybe not this year, but could be next year.

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Quote from: avp2306 on January 29, 2024, 06:54:02 AM

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.

If Tapales will win, then the speculation about Inoue avoiding Casimero would become invalid.

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Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

This could not happen anytime soon as Inoue has some other business to take care of. However, there are rumors that Casimero could fight Tapales because these two has been trash talking each other and they have created some hype on the fight. It's not a championship fight since Tapales isn't a champion anymore, but this is good for the ranking of Casimero to increase if ever he wins the fight. Though this is just a rumor, but I believe this is a good fight that should happen soon.

It will not really happen anytime soon as Inoue have his own target fights and Casimero's name is not on radar also they are so clear regarding that they don't have any interest to fight Casimero anymore since they are not impressed with his performance or maybe they can't get anything for that fight.

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

Are those rumors fake? Getting in line with the current 3 fighters that would really be on this year on which Nery is on the first list. I dont know if Casimero fight would push through but this one which tons of fans is really that anticipating for this fight.If we do speak about Casimero's fighting style and capacity then it isnt something that might be putting up Inoue to be interested on which we know that there arent some finalization about the list then we wont know if those fighters been mentioned are the ones to be followed for this particular year. If ever it is finalized then Casimero is already on the line but i highly
doubt that he would really be able to win against Inoue on which i could really say that its a bit far off when it comes ot Boxing IQ,technicalities and stamina i should say in compared to Casimero
but well this is just my own views though.

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Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

This could not happen anytime soon as Inoue has some other business to take care of. However, there are rumors that Casimero could fight Tapales because these two has been trash talking each other and they have created some hype on the fight. It's not a championship fight since Tapales isn't a champion anymore, but this is good for the ranking of Casimero to increase if ever he wins the fight. Though this is just a rumor, but I believe this is a good fight that should happen soon.

It will not really happen anytime soon as Inoue have his own target fights and Casimero's name is not on radar also they are so clear regarding that they don't have any interest to fight Casimero anymore since they are not impressed with his performance or maybe they can't get anything for that fight.

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

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Quote from: Dave1 on January 27, 2024, 12:38:23 PM

Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

This could not happen anytime soon as Inoue has some other business to take care of. However, there are rumors that Casimero could fight Tapales because these two has been trash talking each other and they have created some hype on the fight. It's not a championship fight since Tapales isn't a champion anymore, but this is good for the ranking of Casimero to increase if ever he wins the fight. Though this is just a rumor, but I believe this is a good fight that should happen soon.

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As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.

This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence

The fight happens but they wanna make sure they can make money. Does Casimero going back to MP promotion make the fight possible?

Or will they have to wait up to 5-6 years til Casim is 40 yo before giving him the heads up? It's all their game when they want to make money. If they can't make money from the Casim vs Inoue fight because it's risky, then it's just going to be the waiting game til Casim isn't in his prime.

There is no news that he will go back to MP Promotions Casimero doesn't want to let go of his brother as his trainer even if his brother is getting a lot of negative feedback about the way he manages Casimero, and Casimero is too proud and has a lot pride he wants the MP Promotions to beg him to return, but I don't think the promotions will do that, its Casimero who needs MP promotions.

If the fight will not push this year, Casimero better forgets the Inoue fight, it's his chance to make a lot of money he's the one who blew his chance, while Inoue is doing great on his path to greatness.

Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

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Quote from: coin-investor on January 23, 2024, 11:59:10 AM

There is no news that he will go back to MP Promotions Casimero doesn't want to let go of his brother as his trainer even if his brother is getting a lot of negative feedback about the way he manages Casimero, and Casimero is too proud and has a lot pride he wants the MP Promotions to beg him to return, but I don't think the promotions will do that, its Casimero who needs MP promotions.

We can't force him to go back to MP promotion, he is a man with his pride, he'll stand his decision. It's just that dissapointing that we aren't seen him winning impressively on his prior matches despite his opponent aren't really that strong, and the last time he fougtht, he seemed gas out, and that's why people doesn't believe anymore that he could beat Inoue with his kind of conditioning.

It's not too late for him, have one fight that he can beat his opponent vio KO and no contorversy, then his ranking might shoot up.

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If the fight will not push this year, Casimero better forgets the Inoue fight, it's his chance to make a lot of money he's the one who blew his chance, while Inoue is doing great on his path to greatness.

There's still plenty of time, we should not loss hope as Casimero is not losing his. However, if Inoue will opt to move, then this possible fight ain't happening soon.

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As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.

This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence

The fight happens but they wanna make sure they can make money. Does Casimero going back to MP promotion make the fight possible?

Or will they have to wait up to 5-6 years til Casim is 40 yo before giving him the heads up? It's all their game when they want to make money. If they can't make money from the Casim vs Inoue fight because it's risky, then it's just going to be the waiting game til Casim isn't in his prime.

There is no news that he will go back to MP Promotions Casimero doesn't want to let go of his brother as his trainer even if his brother is getting a lot of negative feedback about the way he manages Casimero, and Casimero is too proud and has a lot pride he wants the MP Promotions to beg him to return, but I don't think the promotions will do that, its Casimero who needs MP promotions.

If the fight will not push this year, Casimero better forgets the Inoue fight, it's his chance to make a lot of money he's the one who blew his chance, while Inoue is doing great on his path to greatness.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 19, 2024, 10:51:48 PM

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Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue.

In that case Casimero does not need to ask Inoue to give him a chance, instead, he will just focus on his fights and make an impressive win so he'll get his ranking improved. If Inoue will stay, he could be a mandatory challenger where Inoue won't need to decide anymore if he'll fight him or not since if he will not he'll get stripped with his belt, it would be okay if he'll move up since there's nothing to prove in the super bantanweight division anymore.

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But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.

For now yeah.

Yes, I agree. I think the only way for Casimero to one day be given a chance to fight against Inoue is to become a worthy opponent. And there's no other way for him to reach that but by defeating everybody else until such a point when he will become Inoue's mandatory challenger. Other than this, Casimero can only call Inoue out and wish he's given the attention.

But time and age are not in Casimero's favor. He'll be 35 soon. And while Inoue is also entering the 30's, it is obvious that his performance doesn't look like he is about to soften a bit, unlike Casimero who looks a lot weaker than before.

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This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

The name of Casimero was only referenced by Inoue as part of his plans this year. Anyhow, it is just a plan, and no finality or agreement is made. Casimero was only referenced last in the list of boxers. Numerous boxers looked for a match with Inoue so everything could change in the plan.

Yes, he was mentioned and that's just a "possible" match as said. And that's why the hopes are there and preparation might be quick if it's going to be official because Inoue has a lot of line up for his match for this year. Still gonna depend on the decision and approval of Inoue's camp if they're going to give him a go signal to fight the monster but if not, Casimero just have to wait further.

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As expectations are high for an Inoue match, Casimero can keep himself occupied and work on his ratings. He can match himself to boxers who are rated highly. Casimero can challenge Akhmadaliev and Goodman if Inoue and Nery already have a deal.

Yeah, he should just stop talking about Inoue and don't think of it as the only match that he can do for this year. Just as what Inoue is doing, he's going to box with other challengers and that's what he has to do and win some matches so that he'll be the first choice if he's ever gonna win those matches that he'll take.

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