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Quote from: electronicash on August 26, 2021, 02:04:14 AM

Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2021, 12:28:33 AM

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Either Inoue vs Casimero or Casimero vs. Donaire is good. But I am honestly more excited to see Casimero vs Inoue. That would be more explosive. I'd definitely watch that fight and be entertained no matter who turns out the winner.

I'd rather see Donaire vs Casimero first. I like to see Casimero having another match first before entering the final stage which is dealing against Naoya Inoue. We didn't see Casimero at 100% during the fight with Rigo as the latter is always on defense and running mode. And for Donaire, he's no chance for a rematch against Inoue if he won't pass Casimero first to finished the unsettled business.

There will be more good impressions and possibly more recognition if Casimero will pass Donaire first. Winning against Donaire will create a bigger market too for Casimero.
Bottom line, the next match should be just between these 3. If Arum will spoil it and find other boxers instead, which I found there's a chance, we won't know.

Casimero Vs Donaire would be best. Its unification and the first time in the history of Philippine boxing that there will be Pinoy vs Pinoy unifying a world title. Donaire should just forget about that trash talk, it's part of the game now in boxing.

Casimero receives a big approval from a lot of boxing analysts. talagang mag ibubuga ito. among the top fighters in the Philippines, he stands out.

Casimero is a Good boxer same as Donaire but about the speed and power today? it is casimero in which advantageous here.

Like manny pacquiao , Nonito Donaire is also in His last days in boxing in which we can see on how he manage to box recently .

while Casimero is still fresh , aging 31 while Nonito is 38 ? i will surely bet on John Riel in this fight .

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 28, 2021, 03:10:58 AM

However, after the boring fight that made Casimero appear like a chasing clown with no technical boxing skills, I reckon a Donaire versus Inoue unification might be organized next before Casimero.

Agree with that. We didn't see the full performance of Casimero because Rigo runs away. I don't want Casimero to face Inoue first. Either Donaire vs Inoue or Donaire vs Casimero first. The reason I want a Casimero vs Inoue first is to prove his trashtalk to his fellow Pinoy boxer. If he loses to Donaire then he's just pure of talks and not a candidate as an opponent for Naoya Inoue.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on August 27, 2021, 09:17:43 PM

This is good development. Social media talks shouldn't be taken very seriously.

And fake news just increasing the flames. Donaire's response is good, people should not involve talks within social media as it wasn't official.

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Either Inoue vs Casimero or Casimero vs. Donaire is good. But I am honestly more excited to see Casimero vs Inoue. That would be more explosive. I'd definitely watch that fight and be entertained no matter who turns out the winner.

I'd rather see Donaire vs Casimero first. I like to see Casimero having another match first before entering the final stage which is dealing against Naoya Inoue. We didn't see Casimero at 100% during the fight with Rigo as the latter is always on defense and running mode. And for Donaire, he's no chance for a rematch against Inoue if he won't pass Casimero first to finished the unsettled business.

There will be more good impressions and possibly more recognition if Casimero will pass Donaire first. Winning against Donaire will create a bigger market too for Casimero.
Bottom line, the next match should be just between these 3. If Arum will spoil it and find other boxers instead, which I found there's a chance, we won't know.

Casimero Vs Donaire would be best. Its unification and the first time in the history of Philippine boxing that there will be Pinoy vs Pinoy unifying a world title. Donaire should just forget about that trash talk, it's part of the game now in boxing.

Casimero receives a big approval from a lot of boxing analysts. talagang mag ibubuga ito. among the top fighters in the Philippines, he stands out.

We like to see that fight happen but the camp of Donaire cancelled the fight, so that dream is already over. Now, Casimero after his win against Rigo, he is targeting Inoue and probably if he is lucky and upset the monster, he could go up and challenge a champion in the next division.

Casimero mentioned 2 names after Rigondeaux. He declared that he wants to fight Donaire and then Inoue. However, after the boring fight that made Casimero appear like a chasing clown with no technical boxing skills, I reckon a Donaire versus Inoue unification might be organized next before Casimero.

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^^ Exactly, Casimero is just pure trash talking in the media and even Sean Gibbons himself. He even tells that Casimero is willing to travel to Japan and challenge Inoue in his own country. To be fair with Casimero though, he has traveled a lot and beat other boxers in their home court.

But presenting a written contract to the opposing promotions is different though, so there will be a lot of back and forth war in the media regarding Casimero vs Inoue and it will be a chess game for these promoters.

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Quote from: harizen on August 27, 2021, 06:34:04 PM

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But we could also consider the fact that since Donaire was defeated by Rigo and Rigo was defeated by Casimero, isn't it also acceptable that Casimero would go straight ahead to Inoue?

That would make sense but currently, these 3 boxers do have unfinished business with each other on which the recent one is Donaire between Casimero. Much better if they will settle it before; Casimero faces the no.1 on their division and Donaire will have a rematch to Inoue.

It could be that way also. Casimero would have to face Donaire first and whoever wins will of course take Inoue. The loser won't have that opportunity. So what follows would either be a fresh match between Casimero and Inoue or a rematch between Donaire and Inoue.

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Here's the recent response of Donaire on Casimero's continuous trashtalk to him;

"Contrary to what is being presented on social media, all the antics and TALK, Quadro Alas It's my boy (Casimero) and Sean Gibbons have yet to contact our promoter, Richard Schaefer, about wanting to fight. We r currently weighing all REAL options and will not entertain social media wars when it is apparent it was just talk"

Casimero is just clearly marketing the fight although maybe 50% of his trashtalk is really intentional. He even joked he can face Doinare and Inoue at the same time on the ring. Cheesy

This is good development. Social media talks shouldn't be taken very seriously. Although they should also be kept within bounds. They're after all just a way to promote the fight.

Let the negotiations begin for the second time around. This time, both parties shouldn't be carried away by their emotions so that the match would not suffer the same fate just like before.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on August 26, 2021, 09:29:36 PM

But we could also consider the fact that since Donaire was defeated by Rigo and Rigo was defeated by Casimero, isn't it also acceptable that Casimero would go straight ahead to Inoue?

That would make sense but currently, these 3 boxers do have unfinished business with each other on which the recent one is Donaire between Casimero. Much better if they will settle it before; Casimero faces the no.1 on their division and Donaire will have a rematch to Inoue.

Here's the recent response of Donaire on Casimero's continuous trashtalk to him;

"Contrary to what is being presented on social media, all the antics and TALK, Quadro Alas It's my boy (Casimero) and Sean Gibbons have yet to contact our promoter, Richard Schaefer, about wanting to fight. We r currently weighing all REAL options and will not entertain social media wars when it is apparent it was just talk"

Casimero is just clearly marketing the fight although maybe 50% of his trashtalk is really intentional. He even joked he can face Doinare and Inoue at the same time on the ring. Cheesy

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because theyre the ones who would really be making out decision which is really sad to know but if they do saw the interest and hype then it is likely for it to happen.

If they like a hype, then they should fight Casimero as he is making his name in boxing with his trash-talking technique, I'm sure it will draw the attention of the fans if they'll fight, not only from the Filipinos but also in America where the fight is best held.

It looks like Donaire and Casimero fight first before they face Inoue again, rumors are spreading already and the team are communicating to other camp as they say. That trash talking draws a lot of attention already, that’s a great hype for the next fight of Casimero, they should take that as an advantage.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/naoya-inoue-wants-casimero-this-year-i-want-to-beat-him-to-the-ground/

Inoue wants him badly to be taken down for this year.We can really presume that it might be pushed up to happen but of course it will depending on the hype because
the more the demand of this fight then the more money they could generate.

We don’t know if Casimero will fight Donaire first though yes they said its possible to happen this year but for me, Inoue is way better to fight and yes there’s already hype and that can generate more money for them. If Inoue and Casimero will push through this year, this could be one of the best match this year.

This would indeed the best match for this year if ever this one would really be pushed through and basing off with they hype and interest then i do really believe that this would happen rather than on Casimero vs Donaire but honestly i dont really bother nor complain on which one would really be the first to fight because these line up of fight is something interesting to watch and it is way more that with that
recent Pacquiao and Ugas fight and if it did turn out that Spence fight did push through then i would see it to be at least better.

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Quote from: Johnyz on August 26, 2021, 06:49:48 PM

We don’t know if Casimero will fight Donaire first though yes they said its possible to happen this year but for me, Inoue is way better to fight and yes there’s already hype and that can generate more money for them. If Inoue and Casimero will push through this year, this could be one of the best matches this year.

Both boxers are just all talks right now, Donaire should have push through with the fight but instead, back out at the last minute, he is not like Pacquiao who don't back out because of thrash talk he never ducks anybody, obviously, Donaire is afraid of Casimero he can make alibis but ducking your opponent because of trash talk is not good, boxers only back out if he has injuries, but never in a trash talk. because trash-talks are part of the sports of boxing.

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Quote from: Johnyz on August 26, 2021, 06:49:48 PM

We don’t know if Casimero will fight Donaire first though yes they said its possible to happen this year but for me, Inoue is way better to fight and yes there’s already hype and that can generate more money for them. If Inoue and Casimero will push through this year, this could be one of the best match this year.

He sure would love to fight Donaire but being the first, we don't know. We don't know how's the setup and what's Casimero's team doing for the arrangement of his next fight.
Well at least he got two choices whoever he's going for the next possible win of his.

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Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2021, 12:28:33 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on August 25, 2021, 09:26:22 PM

Either Inoue vs Casimero or Casimero vs. Donaire is good. But I am honestly more excited to see Casimero vs Inoue. That would be more explosive. I'd definitely watch that fight and be entertained no matter who turns out the winner.

I'd rather see Donaire vs Casimero first. I like to see Casimero having another match first before entering the final stage which is dealing against Naoya Inoue. We didn't see Casimero at 100% during the fight with Rigo as the latter is always on defense and running mode. And for Donaire, he's no chance for a rematch against Inoue if he won't pass Casimero first to finished the unsettled business.

There will be more good impressions and possibly more recognition if Casimero will pass Donaire first. Winning against Donaire will create a bigger market too for Casimero.

Bottom line, the next match should be just between these 3. If Arum will spoil it and find other boxers instead, which I found there's a chance, we won't know.

I also hope that happens. Casimero would be more of a challenger to Inoue if he had defeated Donaire first. But we could also consider the fact that since Donaire was defeated by Rigo and Rigo was defeated by Casimero, isn't it also acceptable that Casimero would go straight ahead to Inoue?

And also I am thinking that it would be more exciting to see Casimero's next opponent not being a counter puncher like Rigo and Donaire.

But on another issue, I hope Donaire is still open for fighting against Casimero. He was emotional the last time he said he won't face Casimero ever.

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Quote from: Mahanton on August 26, 2021, 05:53:14 PM

Quote from: goaldigger on August 26, 2021, 04:46:45 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 26, 2021, 04:00:38 PM

Quote from: dunfida on August 26, 2021, 03:29:28 PM

because theyre the ones who would really be making out decision which is really sad to know but if they do saw the interest and hype then it is likely for it to happen.

If they like a hype, then they should fight Casimero as he is making his name in boxing with his trash-talking technique, I'm sure it will draw the attention of the fans if they'll fight, not only from the Filipinos but also in America where the fight is best held.

It looks like Donaire and Casimero fight first before they face Inoue again, rumors are spreading already and the team are communicating to other camp as they say. That trash talking draws a lot of attention already, that’s a great hype for the next fight of Casimero, they should take that as an advantage.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/naoya-inoue-wants-casimero-this-year-i-want-to-beat-him-to-the-ground/

Inoue wants him badly to be taken down for this year.We can really presume that it might be pushed up to happen but of course it will depending on the hype because
the more the demand of this fight then the more money they could generate.

We don’t know if Casimero will fight Donaire first though yes they said its possible to happen this year but for me, Inoue is way better to fight and yes there’s already hype and that can generate more money for them. If Inoue and Casimero will push through this year, this could be one of the best match this year.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 26, 2021, 04:00:38 PM

Quote from: dunfida on August 26, 2021, 03:29:28 PM

because theyre the ones who would really be making out decision which is really sad to know but if they do saw the interest and hype then it is likely for it to happen.

If they like a hype, then they should fight Casimero as he is making his name in boxing with his trash-talking technique, I'm sure it will draw the attention of the fans if they'll fight, not only from the Filipinos but also in America where the fight is best held.

There's already the attention that's being drawn for him and to those that he's trashtalking. While Donaire replied that he's just all talk, there seems to be no talk anymore between the two. And right now, I think these two boxers are longing and aiming to box Inoue.
So it's like who goes first beating Inoue and if they're both unsuccessful and Inoue remains the champion, there's another series of trash talking from both of them and we'll see that most often because we sure know how someone can be flamed if he's at a bad situation.

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Quote from: Botnake on August 26, 2021, 03:35:24 AM

We like to see that fight happen but the camp of Donaire cancelled the fight, so that dream is already over.

It's not totally over. There are lots of ways to fixed that if both parties are serious in arranging the match. It makes more sense to me to believe that Casimero will fight Donaire first and Inoue as the final level on that weight class.

With Casimero winning against Rigo, I'm sure Donaire's camp is now in talks for the fight to push through but they don't want to spoil any information yet which I understand.

I'm also in for Casimero vs Donaire's first as that was supposed to be the match in the first place.

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because theyre the ones who would really be making out decision which is really sad to know but if they do saw the interest and hype then it is likely for it to happen.

If they like a hype, then they should fight Casimero as he is making his name in boxing with his trash-talking technique, I'm sure it will draw the attention of the fans if they'll fight, not only from the Filipinos but also in America where the fight is best held.

It looks like Donaire and Casimero fight first before they face Inoue again, rumors are spreading already and the team are communicating to other camp as they say. That trash talking draws a lot of attention already, that’s a great hype for the next fight of Casimero, they should take that as an advantage.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/08/naoya-inoue-wants-casimero-this-year-i-want-to-beat-him-to-the-ground/

Inoue wants him badly to be taken down for this year.We can really presume that it might be pushed up to happen but of course it will depending on the hype because
the more the demand of this fight then the more money they could generate.

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Quote from: dunfida on August 26, 2021, 03:29:28 PM

because theyre the ones who would really be making out decision which is really sad to know but if they do saw the interest and hype then it is likely for it to happen.

If they like a hype, then they should fight Casimero as he is making his name in boxing with his trash-talking technique, I'm sure it will draw the attention of the fans if they'll fight, not only from the Filipinos but also in America where the fight is best held.

It looks like Donaire and Casimero fight first before they face Inoue again, rumors are spreading already and the team are communicating to other camp as they say. That trash talking draws a lot of attention already, that’s a great hype for the next fight of Casimero, they should take that as an advantage.

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Quote from: dunfida on August 26, 2021, 03:29:28 PM

because theyre the ones who would really be making out decision which is really sad to know but if they do saw the interest and hype then it is likely for it to happen.

If they like a hype, then they should fight Casimero as he is making his name in boxing with his trash-talking technique, I'm sure it will draw the attention of the fans if they'll fight, not only from the Filipinos but also in America where the fight is best held.

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Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2021, 12:28:33 AM

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Either Inoue vs Casimero or Casimero vs. Donaire is good. But I am honestly more excited to see Casimero vs Inoue. That would be more explosive. I'd definitely watch that fight and be entertained no matter who turns out the winner.

I'd rather see Donaire vs Casimero first. I like to see Casimero having another match first before entering the final stage which is dealing against Naoya Inoue. We didn't see Casimero at 100% during the fight with Rigo as the latter is always on defense and running mode. And for Donaire, he's no chance for a rematch against Inoue if he won't pass Casimero first to finished the unsettled business.

There will be more good impressions and possibly more recognition if Casimero will pass Donaire first. Winning against Donaire will create a bigger market too for Casimero.
Bottom line, the next match should be just between these 3. If Arum will spoil it and find other boxers instead, which I found there's a chance, we won't know.

Casimero Vs Donaire would be best. Its unification and the first time in the history of Philippine boxing that there will be Pinoy vs Pinoy unifying a world title. Donaire should just forget about that trash talk, it's part of the game now in boxing.

Casimero receives a big approval from a lot of boxing analysts. talagang mag ibubuga ito. among the top fighters in the Philippines, he stands out.

But that's no longer the hot topic now. It's the attention of Inoue to call the fight between Casimero.

Like what both of you pointing out, Casimero vs Donaire is also interesting before facing Inoue whoever wins the fight, but
Casimero takes the shortcut and uses social media channels to bring the attention and now he's getting a lot.
Potential fight against Inoue that will give him a big chance to gain more recognition inside this sport.

On that recent interview and some nasty selection of possibly opponents of Casimero then Inoue surely triggered out on that one and that what makes this fight to be possible since Inoue do call out

for arranging the match which do simply shows that this is much more likely to happen than on fighting with Donaire but lets see on what would be the decisions to be made by their promoters

because theyre the ones who would really be making out decision which is really sad to know but if they do saw the interest and hype then it is likely for it to happen.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 26, 2021, 02:04:14 AM

Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2021, 12:28:33 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on August 25, 2021, 09:26:22 PM

Either Inoue vs Casimero or Casimero vs. Donaire is good. But I am honestly more excited to see Casimero vs Inoue. That would be more explosive. I'd definitely watch that fight and be entertained no matter who turns out the winner.

I'd rather see Donaire vs Casimero first. I like to see Casimero having another match first before entering the final stage which is dealing against Naoya Inoue. We didn't see Casimero at 100% during the fight with Rigo as the latter is always on defense and running mode. And for Donaire, he's no chance for a rematch against Inoue if he won't pass Casimero first to finished the unsettled business.

There will be more good impressions and possibly more recognition if Casimero will pass Donaire first. Winning against Donaire will create a bigger market too for Casimero.
Bottom line, the next match should be just between these 3. If Arum will spoil it and find other boxers instead, which I found there's a chance, we won't know.

Casimero Vs Donaire would be best. Its unification and the first time in the history of Philippine boxing that there will be Pinoy vs Pinoy unifying a world title. Donaire should just forget about that trash talk, it's part of the game now in boxing.

Casimero receives a big approval from a lot of boxing analysts. talagang mag ibubuga ito. among the top fighters in the Philippines, he stands out.

But that's no longer the hot topic now. It's the attention of Inoue to call the fight between Casimero.

Like what both of you pointing out, Casimero vs Donaire is also interesting before facing Inoue whoever wins the fight, but
Casimero takes the shortcut and uses social media channels to bring the attention and now he's getting a lot.
Potential fight against Inoue that will give him a big chance to gain more recognition inside this sport.

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Quote from: Botnake on August 26, 2021, 03:35:24 AM

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Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2021, 12:28:33 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on August 25, 2021, 09:26:22 PM

Either Inoue vs Casimero or Casimero vs. Donaire is good. But I am honestly more excited to see Casimero vs Inoue. That would be more explosive. I'd definitely watch that fight and be entertained no matter who turns out the winner.

I'd rather see Donaire vs Casimero first. I like to see Casimero having another match first before entering the final stage which is dealing against Naoya Inoue. We didn't see Casimero at 100% during the fight with Rigo as the latter is always on defense and running mode. And for Donaire, he's no chance for a rematch against Inoue if he won't pass Casimero first to finished the unsettled business.

There will be more good impressions and possibly more recognition if Casimero will pass Donaire first. Winning against Donaire will create a bigger market too for Casimero.
Bottom line, the next match should be just between these 3. If Arum will spoil it and find other boxers instead, which I found there's a chance, we won't know.

Casimero Vs Donaire would be best. Its unification and the first time in the history of Philippine boxing that there will be Pinoy vs Pinoy unifying a world title. Donaire should just forget about that trash talk, it's part of the game now in boxing.

Casimero receives a big approval from a lot of boxing analysts. talagang mag ibubuga ito. among the top fighters in the Philippines, he stands out.

We like to see that fight happen but the camp of Donaire cancelled the fight, so that dream is already over. Now, Casimero after his win against Rigo, he is targeting Inoue and probably if he is lucky and upset the monster, he could go up and challenge a champion in the next division.

The last update we had is when Inoue said he would like to arrange the fight to happen this year, after that, there's no update anymore. About Donaire, there's also no update on his fight against Inoue, I think they are done this year as they all won their last fight, so maybe they'll rest and have the fight by next year.

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Quote from: electronicash on August 26, 2021, 02:04:14 AM

Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2021, 12:28:33 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on August 25, 2021, 09:26:22 PM

Either Inoue vs Casimero or Casimero vs. Donaire is good. But I am honestly more excited to see Casimero vs Inoue. That would be more explosive. I'd definitely watch that fight and be entertained no matter who turns out the winner.

I'd rather see Donaire vs Casimero first. I like to see Casimero having another match first before entering the final stage which is dealing against Naoya Inoue. We didn't see Casimero at 100% during the fight with Rigo as the latter is always on defense and running mode. And for Donaire, he's no chance for a rematch against Inoue if he won't pass Casimero first to finished the unsettled business.

There will be more good impressions and possibly more recognition if Casimero will pass Donaire first. Winning against Donaire will create a bigger market too for Casimero.
Bottom line, the next match should be just between these 3. If Arum will spoil it and find other boxers instead, which I found there's a chance, we won't know.

Casimero Vs Donaire would be best. Its unification and the first time in the history of Philippine boxing that there will be Pinoy vs Pinoy unifying a world title. Donaire should just forget about that trash talk, it's part of the game now in boxing.

Casimero receives a big approval from a lot of boxing analysts. talagang mag ibubuga ito. among the top fighters in the Philippines, he stands out.

We like to see that fight happen but the camp of Donaire cancelled the fight, so that dream is already over. Now, Casimero after his win against Rigo, he is targeting Inoue and probably if he is lucky and upset the monster, he could go up and challenge a champion in the next division.

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