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Quote from: Fatunad on August 24, 2021, 03:46:27 PM

We can speculate but not able to make a final decision.

There's a reason to speculate because even Inoue himself announced that he wants to accept the challenge and fight Casimero this year. It's gonna be the biggest fight in the bantam weight division and the trash talk will be over once the fight is signed, so let's wait for that.

No, the announcement of Inoue was on the fight between Casimero, there's also speculation regarding the Inoue vs Donaire 2 because people thought that it's the reason why the fight is canceled.

Actually, Casimero looks to be the victim here as Inoue and Donaire both cancelled their fights against Casimero and I don't think it's because of his trash talk or disrespect because they already know Casimero's antics before they agree to fight him.

I thought we have the Inoue vs Casimero discussion here also, although there's a separate thread for that we can't prevent people from discussing or speculating on the possible Casimer vs Inoue now because it's the latest news in the boxing world.

Whatever matches we will see, I'm sure no more running as these 3 (Casimero, Inoue, and Donaire) have the style that they want to go toe to toe against any opponent.

Connected discussions would be normal and its really hard for it not to be mentioned since there are really some probabilities that there would be some fight diversion due to that
Casimero been provoking Inoue and now it did really make out some attention or recognition which might really be ending up on a fixed or finalized arrangement of the said fight
on where majority or the public is really been eyeing for a long time after it was postponed wayback due to some reasons.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 24, 2021, 05:18:24 PM

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Quote from: Fatunad on August 24, 2021, 03:46:27 PM

We can speculate but not able to make a final decision.

There's a reason to speculate because even Inoue himself announced that he wants to accept the challenge and fight Casimero this year. It's gonna be the biggest fight in the bantam weight division and the trash talk will be over once the fight is signed, so let's wait for that.

No, the announcement of Inoue was on the fight between Casimero, there's also speculation regarding the Inoue vs Donaire 2 because people thought that it's the reason why the fight is canceled.

Actually, Casimero looks to be the victim here as Inoue and Donaire both cancelled their fights against Casimero and I don't think it's because of his trash talk or disrespect because they already know Casimero's antics before they agree to fight him.

I thought we have the Inoue vs Casimero discussion here also, although there's a separate thread for that we can't prevent people from discussing or speculating on the possible Casimer vs Inoue now because it's the latest news in the boxing world.

Whatever matches we will see, I'm sure no more running as these 3 (Casimero, Inoue, and Donaire) have the style that they want to go toe to toe against any opponent.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 24, 2021, 04:10:37 PM

Quote from: Fatunad on August 24, 2021, 03:46:27 PM

We can speculate but not able to make a final decision.

There's a reason to speculate because even Inoue himself announced that he wants to accept the challenge and fight Casimero this year. It's gonna be the biggest fight in the bantam weight division and the trash talk will be over once the fight is signed, so let's wait for that.

No, the announcement of Inoue was on the fight between Casimero, there's also speculation regarding the Inoue vs Donaire 2 because people thought that it's the reason why the fight is canceled.

Actually, Casimero looks to be the victim here as Inoue and Donaire both cancelled their fights against Casimero and I don't think it's because of his trash talk or disrespect because they already know Casimero's antics before they agree to fight him.

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Quote from: Fatunad on August 24, 2021, 03:46:27 PM

We can speculate but not able to make a final decision.

There's a reason to speculate because even Inoue himself announced that he wants to accept the challenge and fight Casimero this year. It's gonna be the biggest fight in the bantam weight division and the trash talk will be over once the fight is signed, so let's wait for that.

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What's the current progress of this possible match?

Not following much but is there any chance that this fight will happen?

As we know, Naoya Inoue has now become vocal that he wants John Riel Casimero first. He is dedicated to crash the Quadro Alas now because of the trashtalk not realizing Casimero is just marketing the fight because his name is not that big to attract audiences.

I also never heard any news with their match-up date, only just trash talks. But because many had wanted it to make it happen in order to know who's better, I think this gonna happen someday. It is probably early next year since Casimero is in the fight earlier, I think he needs to relax first and fully recovered before he goes for another fight.

Well, we know Casimero is good at attracting audiences because of its trash talks and surely this fight will gain a huge number of bets.

Still waiting for Inoues camp to make a final deal if they will fight Casimero instead of doing the rematch against Donaire, but like what you have said, the noise of this possible fight already getting good audience interest.

There are more fans that will support the fight between Casimero and Inoue, that trash talks really gained too much interest.

waiting still and giving my personal opinion, fighters and promoters will be more interested with the money fight.

They would surely go on things which is more hyped and been a talk of town because they could really benefit from that and wont really be letting this opportunity to get more revenue.
I do also see that Casimero vs Inoue is much more appealing and much having lots of interest compared on rematch from Donaire which i wouldnt really be surprised if they would really
be choosing this one over the other but who knows? Nothing is finalized yet as long they wouldnt really give out some confirmations or approval of such possible match up.
We can speculate but not able to make a final decision.

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 24, 2021, 07:35:58 AM

What's the current progress of this possible match?

Not following much but is there any chance that this fight will happen?

As we know, Naoya Inoue has now become vocal that he wants John Riel Casimero first. He is dedicated to crash the Quadro Alas now because of the trashtalk not realizing Casimero is just marketing the fight because his name is not that big to attract audiences.

I also never heard any news with their match-up date, only just trash talks. But because many had wanted it to make it happen in order to know who's better, I think this gonna happen someday. It is probably early next year since Casimero is in the fight earlier, I think he needs to relax first and fully recovered before he goes for another fight.

Well, we know Casimero is good at attracting audiences because of its trash talks and surely this fight will gain a huge number of bets.

Still waiting for Inoues camp to make a final deal if they will fight Casimero instead of doing the rematch against Donaire, but like what you have said, the noise of this possible fight already getting good audience interest.

There are more fans that will support the fight between Casimero and Inoue, that trash talks really gained too much interest.

waiting still and giving my personal opinion, fighters and promoters will be more interested with the money fight.

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 24, 2021, 07:35:58 AM

What's the current progress of this possible match?

Not following much but is there any chance that this fight will happen?

As we know, Naoya Inoue has now become vocal that he wants John Riel Casimero first. He is dedicated to crash the Quadro Alas now because of the trashtalk not realizing Casimero is just marketing the fight because his name is not that big to attract audiences.

I also never heard any news with their match-up date, only just trash talks. But because many had wanted it to make it happen in order to know who's better, I think this gonna happen someday. It is probably early next year since Casimero is in the fight earlier, I think he needs to relax first and fully recovered before he goes for another fight.

Well, we know Casimero is good at attracting audiences because of its trash talks and surely this fight will gain a huge number of bets.

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I cant deny too that Casimero might be the toughest opponent for Inoue but lets see on how he would really perform inside the ring.

He really is and nobody can't deny and it's time for these two to meet in the ring and settle once and for all who is the best, Inoue looks great against weaker opponents but let's see if he can do all the moves against Casimero who is so good in counter punching and looking for an angle and loves to engage if they meet our bet is not on who will get a decision but on who will get a knockout.

Casimero already recognized the power of Inoue but he is a power puncher too according to him and the reason why he wants to choose to fight Inoue is that they both will execute power punches in the middle of the ring where they clash until one of them will fall. Casimero knows that he can be knock out by Inoue but still he wants to fight him so that the fans will enjoy watching the old boxing-like was. They really need to approve whatever the contract offers because money won't really matter anymore since both fighters want to clash in the ring as soon as possible.

He wants to challenge Inoue and prove that he's stronger and much better power puncher. Normal to every fighter, if they will just admit it. Inside them, they all believe that they are better than their opponents.

Casimero is very hunger for fame he believes that he's more valuable than what he's getting right now.

Seeking for more attentions and trash talking those other fighters who he believes fans think that better than him, he's trash-talking Inoue to have his chance for the fight of a lifetime.

Casimero delayed their VADA testing with Donaire, because he doesn't want to fight Donaire I guess, and wants Inoue instead. I don't know the reason behind his actions but either of the two power punchers, Casimero is in the tight fight on whoever he'll fight in the future that's why I'm confused why he did delay the VADA testing.

Inoue vs. Donaire season 2 would much likely happen in November-December regarding on the article that I've read. But we still don't know if it is already official or not. See here

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 24, 2021, 07:35:58 AM

What's the current progress of this possible match?

Not following much but is there any chance that this fight will happen?

As we know, Naoya Inoue has now become vocal that he wants John Riel Casimero first. He is dedicated to crash the Quadro Alas now because of the trashtalk not realizing Casimero is just marketing the fight because his name is not that big to attract audiences.

There's no final date to their planned fight but I think this event will happen as Inoue already says that he's ready to fight Casimero so maybe its up to their management to handle this deal to make this interesting fight to happen. For sure many people would love to see this happening and hope there's no cancellation of the fight will occur since its pretty good to know if who is the real monster between both of this fighter.

Also I disagree about the name of Casimero is unknown since as he is world champion he has a lot of fans around the world so for sure this fight will sold to many audiences.

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What's the current progress of this possible match?

Not following much but is there any chance that this fight will happen?

As we know, Naoya Inoue has now become vocal that he wants John Riel Casimero first. He is dedicated to crash the Quadro Alas now because of the trashtalk not realizing Casimero is just marketing the fight because his name is not that big to attract audiences.

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That’s a good strategy especially its hard to create names in boxing if you don’t hype it so for sure Casimero knows this thing and he might want to increase his value by spreading such trash talks. Let those boxers fight, we’ve been waiting for the rematch, Inoue should fight again between this two boxer and for me Donaire still can’t handle this one, too risky for him.

Manny Pacquiao did not go to that route to attain greatness, it's not trash talk that makes you great it's what you accomplish in the ring, I admire Casimero not because of his trash talk but for his fighting style and the way he knocks out his opponents.

When you are doing trash talk you should back it up with winning fights and titles, so far Casimero did just that.

Every fighter has his own role and attitude to show it on public. Well, of course this is also based in his private life's attitude.
They need it to sell their fight, most of the fans loved to watch If there is a bad blood between the 2 camps to be settled inside the ring. This is what separates Pacquiao for most of the fighters. He doesn't necessarily need those exaggerated trashtalks just to sell the fight, because his fighting style alone is enough to entertain the crowd.

To keep myself on topic, I think Donaire isn't winning against Inoue anymore. Besides, he's not getting any younger. While Inoue is still climbing the peak of his career.
But I'm not against this fight If they want this to happen. Let's give the Filipino flash another chance.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 24, 2021, 06:44:29 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on August 23, 2021, 07:58:25 PM

That’s a good strategy especially its hard to create names in boxing if you don’t hype it so for sure Casimero knows this thing and he might want to increase his value by spreading such trash talks. Let those boxers fight, we’ve been waiting for the rematch, Inoue should fight again between this two boxer and for me Donaire still can’t handle this one, too risky for him.

Manny Pacquiao did not go to that route to attain greatness, it's not trash talk that makes you great it's what you accomplish in the ring, I admire Casimero not because of his trash talk but for his fighting style and the way he knocks out his opponents.

When you are doing trash talk you should back it up with winning fights and titles, so far Casimero did just that.

Another way to attain popularities, you just need to make sure that you can put a dot in every statement that comes out from your mouth.

Casimero still standing and all those trash talks are being proven,
this another deal for him calling the attention of Inoue and have a better chance to take the fight instead of Donaire.

The outcome of this possible fight will be the conclusion if he's just throwing word or he really can beat Inoue!

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Quote from: goaldigger on August 23, 2021, 07:58:25 PM

That’s a good strategy especially its hard to create names in boxing if you don’t hype it so for sure Casimero knows this thing and he might want to increase his value by spreading such trash talks. Let those boxers fight, we’ve been waiting for the rematch, Inoue should fight again between this two boxer and for me Donaire still can’t handle this one, too risky for him.

That's a short term that Casimero is aiming for, I mean it only takes one defeat to humble him and he will be set aside in the back lines. Not to mention that Inoue has his attention already so there's a possibility that he will fight stronger opponents that might remove him from the lime light.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 24, 2021, 06:44:29 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on August 23, 2021, 07:58:25 PM

That’s a good strategy especially its hard to create names in boxing if you don’t hype it so for sure Casimero knows this thing and he might want to increase his value by spreading such trash talks. Let those boxers fight, we’ve been waiting for the rematch, Inoue should fight again between this two boxer and for me Donaire still can’t handle this one, too risky for him.

Manny Pacquiao did not go to that route to attain greatness, it's not trash talk that makes you great it's what you accomplish in the ring, I admire Casimero not because of his trash talk but for his fighting style and the way he knocks out his opponents.

When you are doing trash talk you should back it up with winning fights and titles, so far Casimero did just that.

But fans don't like that style maybe he should be humble for his achievements since talking a lot can cause him a big shame if he lost to Inoue if their fight will completely sealed, We know that japanese fighter is not an easy opponent we already see his past fights that he is totally a knock out artist. But still Kodus to Casimero for sure he will give a good fight on this match and if he defeat this monster then he can prove that he is the real big thing on their weight class and can shut the mouth of his bashers.

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Quote from: goaldigger on August 23, 2021, 07:58:25 PM

That’s a good strategy especially its hard to create names in boxing if you don’t hype it so for sure Casimero knows this thing and he might want to increase his value by spreading such trash talks. Let those boxers fight, we’ve been waiting for the rematch, Inoue should fight again between this two boxer and for me Donaire still can’t handle this one, too risky for him.

Manny Pacquiao did not go to that route to attain greatness, it's not trash talk that makes you great it's what you accomplish in the ring, I admire Casimero not because of his trash talk but for his fighting style and the way he knocks out his opponents.

When you are doing trash talk you should back it up with winning fights and titles, so far Casimero did just that.

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Casimero is very hunger for fame he believes that he's more valuable than what he's getting right now.

Seeking for more attentions and trash talking those other fighters who he believes fans think that better than him, he's trash-talking Inoue to have his chance for the fight of a lifetime.

If it is his personality, then so be it. But that type of noise he creates to take the attention of other boxers, it's also marketing for him.
Whoever thought of that strategy is doing a good job to him because that's how they take their next fight and two have been targeted, Inoue and Donaire and both of them are taking the sauce and would want him to take down and get the job already inside the ring.

That’s a good strategy especially its hard to create names in boxing if you don’t hype it so for sure Casimero knows this thing and he might want to increase his value by spreading such trash talks. Let those boxers fight, we’ve been waiting for the rematch, Inoue should fight again between this two boxer and for me Donaire still can’t handle this one, too risky for him.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 23, 2021, 04:16:53 PM

Casimero is very hunger for fame he believes that he's more valuable than what he's getting right now.

Seeking for more attentions and trash talking those other fighters who he believes fans think that better than him, he's trash-talking Inoue to have his chance for the fight of a lifetime.

If it is his personality, then so be it. But that type of noise he creates to take the attention of other boxers, it's also marketing for him.
Whoever thought of that strategy is doing a good job to him because that's how they take their next fight and two have been targeted, Inoue and Donaire and both of them are taking the sauce and would want him to take down and get the job already inside the ring.

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He really is and nobody can't deny and it's time for these two to meet in the ring and settle once and for all who is the best, Inoue looks great against weaker opponents but let's see if he can do all the moves against Casimero who is so good in counter punching and looking for an angle and loves to engage if they meet our bet is not on who will get a decision but on who will get a knockout.

Casimero already recognized the power of Inoue but he is a power puncher too according to him and the reason why he wants to choose to fight Inoue is that they both will execute power punches in the middle of the ring where they clash until one of them will fall. Casimero knows that he can be knock out by Inoue but still he wants to fight him so that the fans will enjoy watching the old boxing-like was. They really need to approve whatever the contract offers because money won't really matter anymore since both fighters want to clash in the ring as soon as possible.

He wants to challenge Inoue and prove that he's stronger and much better power puncher. Normal to every fighter, if they will just admit it. Inside them, they all believe that they are better than their opponents.

Casimero is very hunger for fame he believes that he's more valuable than what he's getting right now.

Seeking for more attentions and trash talking those other fighters who he believes fans think that better than him, he's trash-talking Inoue to have his chance for the fight of a lifetime.

He is because it's normal for a fighter to look for a bigger fight so he will be popular and the money will come. The main purpose why they are boxing is for fame and money, and if Casimero will not have a good fight, he might just retire soon unsatisfied.

Casimero is 31 years olds, there could be at least 5 years for him to enjoy his prime, so he wants to fight the best.

While Inoue is 28 years old which is still young but has already enjoyed the fame.

Well, they still have something to prove themselves in the ring, right?

Inoue is still young and very aggressive, he is in his prime and enjoying it while Casimero and Nonito are getting old but still have the strength left and so they can still fight. But although they still have such a thing, Inoue will be able to take it all and still win the fight if that going to happen.

I think the fight between Casimero and Inoue is more buyable than watching Nonito vs Inoue II since we already know Nonito already lost to that Japanese fighter already, And besides Inoue is aiming to fight Casimero so a huge chances that this fight will happen and its good to see that how could Casimero can possibly defeat the Japanese monster while we know how good Inoue he is so good since he have power and speed also he is on his prime at this moment.

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He really is and nobody can't deny and it's time for these two to meet in the ring and settle once and for all who is the best, Inoue looks great against weaker opponents but let's see if he can do all the moves against Casimero who is so good in counter punching and looking for an angle and loves to engage if they meet our bet is not on who will get a decision but on who will get a knockout.

Casimero already recognized the power of Inoue but he is a power puncher too according to him and the reason why he wants to choose to fight Inoue is that they both will execute power punches in the middle of the ring where they clash until one of them will fall. Casimero knows that he can be knock out by Inoue but still he wants to fight him so that the fans will enjoy watching the old boxing-like was. They really need to approve whatever the contract offers because money won't really matter anymore since both fighters want to clash in the ring as soon as possible.

He wants to challenge Inoue and prove that he's stronger and much better power puncher. Normal to every fighter, if they will just admit it. Inside them, they all believe that they are better than their opponents.

Casimero is very hunger for fame he believes that he's more valuable than what he's getting right now.

Seeking for more attentions and trash talking those other fighters who he believes fans think that better than him, he's trash-talking Inoue to have his chance for the fight of a lifetime.

He is because it's normal for a fighter to look for a bigger fight so he will be popular and the money will come. The main purpose why they are boxing is for fame and money, and if Casimero will not have a good fight, he might just retire soon unsatisfied.

Casimero is 31 years olds, there could be at least 5 years for him to enjoy his prime, so he wants to fight the best.

While Inoue is 28 years old which is still young but has already enjoyed the fame.

Well, they still have something to prove themselves in the ring, right?

Inoue is still young and very aggressive, he is in his prime and enjoying it while Casimero and Nonito are getting old but still have the strength left and so they can still fight. But although they still have such a thing, Inoue will be able to take it all and still win the fight if that going to happen.

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I cant deny too that Casimero might be the toughest opponent for Inoue but lets see on how he would really perform inside the ring.

He really is and nobody can't deny and it's time for these two to meet in the ring and settle once and for all who is the best, Inoue looks great against weaker opponents but let's see if he can do all the moves against Casimero who is so good in counter punching and looking for an angle and loves to engage if they meet our bet is not on who will get a decision but on who will get a knockout.

Casimero already recognized the power of Inoue but he is a power puncher too according to him and the reason why he wants to choose to fight Inoue is that they both will execute power punches in the middle of the ring where they clash until one of them will fall. Casimero knows that he can be knock out by Inoue but still he wants to fight him so that the fans will enjoy watching the old boxing-like was. They really need to approve whatever the contract offers because money won't really matter anymore since both fighters want to clash in the ring as soon as possible.

He wants to challenge Inoue and prove that he's stronger and much better power puncher. Normal to every fighter, if they will just admit it. Inside them, they all believe that they are better than their opponents.

Casimero is very hunger for fame he believes that he's more valuable than what he's getting right now.

Seeking for more attentions and trash talking those other fighters who he believes fans think that better than him, he's trash-talking Inoue to have his chance for the fight of a lifetime.

He is because it's normal for a fighter to look for a bigger fight so he will be popular and the money will come. The main purpose why they are boxing is for fame and money, and if Casimero will not have a good fight, he might just retire soon unsatisfied.

Casimero is 31 years olds, there could be at least 5 years for him to enjoy his prime, so he wants to fight the best.

While Inoue is 28 years old which is still young but has already enjoyed the fame.

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