Topic: Introducing Hive, a beautiful new wallet for Mac OS X - page 13. (Read 141179 times)

Hey,

status=1 and date=2044 so yeah, some kind of migration issue. Doing "rebuild transaction list" indeed fixed it.

Bitcoin URIs open Hive for me, but the app doesn't pre-fill the send screen as I would expect. It just sits on my personal profile page.

Thanks!

Please send the report from the exception popup if it appears, and send me the logs from ~/Library/Logs/Hive and anything interesting from Console.app from the moment of the crash (kuba at hivewallet.com).

Hi there. Thanks for the amazing looking app. Unfortunately I am having trouble sending out bitcoin from the app. I am on OSX 10.7.5. Each time I click send, the app would crash before prompting me to enter the password for my wallet. I am also currently not using the backup utility.

Only if you set a password, which is a feature that we've also added in this release - see the Wallet menu. (We'll make a change next week so that it's not possible to use the Dropbox backup until you do that, for your own safety...)

Thanks for the response. Is the wallet encrypted or otherwise protected if Dropbox was accessed by someone else besides the user?

It copies two files from the Hive directory in Application Support to the selected directory - one is the Core Data database (which keeps a list of transactions, contacts with addresses etc.) and the other is the bitcoinj wallet file with all the keys and whatever other data bitcoinj needs.

In what format does it store the backup on Dropbox?

Hi Mike, thanks for the feedback!

Yeah, I've noticed that too recently...

To be honest we haven't looked at the existing apps recently - I'll tell someone from the team to take a look at this.

It probably could, good idea.

Because that's how our designer designed it Now that you say that, we might actually be better off using standard ones, we'll have to rethink that...

Yeah, we have some tickets for that, we're just too busy now trying to get the most important stuff done before the Miami conference...

Good point, there is actually a visual feedback (red background) but only when you press enter.

That's possible. Can you check in the Debugging Info window, on "Data store transactions" list, what is the status value for those? I suspect it's really 0=unknown, not 1=pending.
Also, if you go to Debugging Tools and run "Rebuild transactions list", that should fix it too. (This only rebuilds the Core Data table.)

It should, we added this some time ago. Does it not work with the one here https://electrum.org/bitcoin_URIs.html for example? Even if Hive is already started? Maybe try in a different browser?

They should be sorted by newest first. I suspect this is a data migration problem, I saw that too, but it should rebuild the list on first run to prevent this... Check the dates on the list in Debugging Info mentioned above - the ones that appear above the newest one probably have dates from 2044 or something like that.

Yeah, we probably should.

Great! Some UI feedback:

• When I open an app, there are is a visual glitches. There is a rightward arrow mark in the title bar, looks like it's trying to be a button bar but the button edge overlaps with the middle of the label. This is with Mavericks.
• I tried to use the localbitcoins app to find sell offers and it didn't work, the app just stayed on the progress bar after clicking "find offers" forever.
• Could Hive not pick up my name from the operating system?
• Why do the buttons have a custom style instead of being regular Aqua buttons? On the profile page, the "Edit" button is not aligned with the "send" button in the left hand tray, so it looks a bit odd and unpolished. Also, on the "change password" screen, the button always looks the same regardless of whether it's enabled or disabled. If you make a mistake typing in your password a second time, there's no visual feedback you've got it wrong: the button simply acts dead when you try to push it.
• In the transactions page, it seems like there is an issue with the PENDING label? I had some money in my hive wallet already, and it showed up as PENDING even though it was confirmed for a long time. Upgrade specific issue?
• A transaction lights up if I push it, but nothing happens. That is odd - it looks and acts like a button, yet, pressing it doesn't do anything.
• Hive doesn't seem to register to handle bitcoin URIs yet?
• I had two transactions in my wallet. I sent some money out to my phone, so I expected that transaction to appear at either the top or bottom of my tx list. In fact it appeared in the middle. How are transactions sorted? Could you also include the time so transactions that occur on the same day can be seen in more detail?

It would be really really really hard task to download the entire blockchain with JS. Remember JS is a scripting language and to make it take bits and shift bits is really hard. That isn't built into the language so you would need a library or to built that yourself. Plus hive isn't decentralized they use bitcoinj as the backend, it is a SPV client. That is second lowest form of trust on the network. Also I said certain parts can be centralized, like sending an already signed transaction to the network because no one can tamper with that. Also getting balances can be centralized, cause no one is using a chrome app to send $100K and if they are then they are dumb. If you want to see something cool look at the KryptoKit and get the chrome app package, add .zip and you can see the source code.

But hive aims to be decentralized. Would it still be possible? What about how multivitamin works? They don't download the entire blockchain. Would that be possible to do with JS?

Lots and lots of javascript and html5, it is really hard, but you can use already made apis to bitcoin servers to get balances and to talk to the network. Bitcoin is really powerful in that way, that you can just build certain parts and have centralized parts. So the application would basically just sign transactions and then a centralized server can broadcast them to the network.

If you don't mind me asking, how would the chrome app work?

That worked for me thanks!

I think I know what was wrong, though I'm not sure why I can't reproduce the crash myself... Try this test build: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/releases/download/2014010401/Hive-2014010401.zip

10.9.1

I just send the report thru the app's crash reporter, I didn't see anything in the logs that showed this. The log is mostly java bitcoinj stuff.

Nice. I'll be watching this.

Also, which OSX version are you on?

Can you send the crash report from the exception popup if it shows up (if you haven't already), and send me the logs from ~/Library/Logs/Hive and anything from Console.app that appears at the moment when this happens? (kuba (at) hivewallet.com)