IOHK Research and Scorex ARE NOT working with Waves - page 10.

themav

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Quote from: charleshoskinson on April 12, 2016, 09:06:49 AM

It has come to my attention that Waves is representing the scorex codebase and our whitepapers as their work for the purposes of holding a crowdsale. Iohk has no relationship with Waves. The scorex core developers are iohk employees and will not be collaborating in any capacity with the Waves team. We do NOT endorse their sale or claims.

We cannot stop Waves from using Scorex as a foundation for their project as it is open source; however, none of the Waves team have made any contributions to scorex and again the lead developer of scorex will not collaborate with Waves.

So... it is open source... Do we care if you endorse the sale? It would be great if we can get a response from WAVES before the 20% day is up.

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Quote from: charleshoskinson on April 12, 2016, 09:06:49 AM

It has come to my attention that Waves is representing the scorex codebase and our whitepapers as their work for the purposes of holding a crowdsale. Iohk has no relationship with Waves. The scorex core developers are iohk employees and will not be collaborating in any capacity with the Waves team. We do NOT endorse their sale or claims.

We cannot stop Waves from using Scorex as a foundation for their project as it is open source; however, none of the Waves team have made any contributions to scorex and again the lead developer of scorex will not collaborate with Waves.

How comes that it came into your attention exactly in the day of the ICO?
I don't tell that waves may not be a little bit (or more) fishy... but this is quite a coincidence too...

sotisoti

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Same here, would like to know why the last minute news.

Zenyoguibit

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The big question is why wait until now to give this information to the community? Assuming what you say is true (about which I can not see substantial evidence).
Okay, we do not kill the messenger, but why send that message? Whoever it was, honestly it's bad for his ethics and professionalism.
It´s a FUD?

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Quote from: Seccour on April 12, 2016, 11:04:46 AM

I know the answer about that question, so the only question without answer for me now his the motivation of the messenger.

Please, share with us the answer. That's why we're all here!

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Quote from: Bimmerhead on April 12, 2016, 10:53:24 AM

Quote from: Seccour on April 12, 2016, 10:48:53 AM

Quote from: charleshoskinson on April 12, 2016, 09:06:49 AM

It has come to my attention that Waves is representing the scorex codebase and our whitepapers as their work for the purposes of holding a crowdsale. Iohk has no relationship with Waves. The scorex core developers are iohk employees and will not be collaborating in any capacity with the Waves team. We do NOT endorse their sale or claims.

We cannot stop Waves from using Scorex as a foundation for their project as it is open source; however, none of the Waves team have made any contributions to scorex and again the lead developer of scorex will not collaborate with Waves.

So you are waiting the start of the ICO to post that why ?

3 options :

_ You didn't invest in Waves and don't planned to, and post this to inform people.
_ You didn't invest in Waves but you wanting to do so until you find out this, and you want to inform people.
_ You invest ( or want to ) in Waves and you are trying to scare people so less people will profit from the 20%

The third option seem the more accurate one for me but we will see

Isn't the real question whether or not what he says is true? I feel like a number of you are angry at the messenger because you are skeptical about his motivation. Try to be objective rather than letting your investment desires cloud your judgement. I'd like to hear from all sides about the veracity of the OP's claims.

I know the answer about that question, so the only question without answer for me now his the motivation of the messenger.

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Can someone explain to me as if I were 8 years old or a little boy about what's going on? I can't seem to follow anything today. Too much multitasking (aka TLDR summary plz)

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Quote from: xcn on April 12, 2016, 10:46:15 AM

it's open-source world, man!

I totally agree man, people should be sharing. It's sad that Charles seems to be a little angry. Kush can do cerebral wonders, kids. I'm endorsing it rather than foul feelings. Charles, I'd like to hear from all sides about the veracity of your claims. Perhaps some of us might have some skepticism towards your motivation of posting this, and even more so since you're posting this now - you see. No offense.

Make some waves my friends. Together and with respect for each others' freedom.

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Quote from: $dakini on April 07, 2016, 03:02:49 PM

gosh! too many pages to read.
Any big news worth reading?

Ico site has started. Click here: http://ico.wavesplatform.com/

EDIT: BTW, Wasn't there 3 guys when you clicked on "the team"? All I see now is sasha and tosch. Anybody?

Yup, there were 3 guys on the ICO website at first.

Edit: It's still in the cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gAruNKgrhPcJ:ico.wavesplatform.com/+&cd=1&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=nl

Not the best time for Kushti to have some public role, he has a new born baby

That would be additional stress. I'm the Waves public person. Kushti is an architect.

So Kutshi is on the waves team then? Just staying out the limelight

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Quote from: Seccour on April 12, 2016, 10:48:53 AM

Quote from: charleshoskinson on April 12, 2016, 09:06:49 AM

It has come to my attention that Waves is representing the scorex codebase and our whitepapers as their work for the purposes of holding a crowdsale. Iohk has no relationship with Waves. The scorex core developers are iohk employees and will not be collaborating in any capacity with the Waves team. We do NOT endorse their sale or claims.

We cannot stop Waves from using Scorex as a foundation for their project as it is open source; however, none of the Waves team have made any contributions to scorex and again the lead developer of scorex will not collaborate with Waves.

So you are waiting the start of the ICO to post that why ?

3 options :

_ You didn't invest in Waves and don't planned to, and post this to inform people.
_ You didn't invest in Waves but you wanting to do so until you find out this, and you want to inform people.
_ You invest ( or want to ) in Waves and you are trying to scare people so less people will profit from the 20%

The third option seem the more accurate one for me but we will see

Isn't the real question whether or not what he says is true? I feel like a number of you are angry at the messenger because you are skeptical about his motivation. Try to be objective rather than letting your investment desires cloud your judgement. I'd like to hear from all sides about the veracity of the OP's claims.

Seccour

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Quote from: charleshoskinson on April 12, 2016, 09:06:49 AM

It has come to my attention that Waves is representing the scorex codebase and our whitepapers as their work for the purposes of holding a crowdsale. Iohk has no relationship with Waves. The scorex core developers are iohk employees and will not be collaborating in any capacity with the Waves team. We do NOT endorse their sale or claims.

We cannot stop Waves from using Scorex as a foundation for their project as it is open source; however, none of the Waves team have made any contributions to scorex and again the lead developer of scorex will not collaborate with Waves.

So you are waiting the start of the ICO to post that why ?

3 options :

_ You didn't invest in Waves and don't planned to, and post this to inform people.
_ You didn't invest in Waves but you wanting to do so until you find out this, and you want to inform people.
_ You invest ( or want to ) in Waves and you are trying to scare people so less people will profit from the 20%

The third option seem the more accurate one for me but we will see

xcn

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it's open-source world, man!

prettybuds

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Quote from: CoinManiac1 on April 12, 2016, 10:29:59 AM

My question to Charles....
Why you bothered to say the truth on the day of the ICO? Was there something stopping you before the ICO launch to reveal the truth. whatever it is, please clarify your position on the delay...

Charles, what is the truth? What is your truth and what is Kushti's? Are these two perspectives of yours compliant?

Quote from: Jimmy2011 on April 12, 2016, 10:33:31 AM

Check the source of website http://ico.wavesplatform.com , and then ctrl-F to find "IOHK", so why Kushti is commented out?

oh?

is WAVES Liberty and Freedom being repressed? Kushti, please come into play as the very free man you are.

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Quote from: charleshoskinson on April 12, 2016, 09:06:49 AM

It has come to my attention that Waves is representing the scorex codebase and our whitepapers as their work for the purposes of holding a crowdsale. Iohk has no relationship with Waves. The scorex core developers are iohk employees and will not be collaborating in any capacity with the Waves team. We do NOT endorse their sale or claims.

We cannot stop Waves from using Scorex as a foundation for their project as it is open source; however, none of the Waves team have made any contributions to scorex and again the lead developer of scorex will not collaborate with Waves.

Hard not to read this as just someone who feels slighted by someone else using his open source code, just like open source should be used.

sjccrypto

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So glad there is all this evidence if a lawsuit is one day needed.

Camus

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All is a joke...

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Quote from: CoinManiac1 on April 12, 2016, 10:29:59 AM

My question to Charles....

Why you bothered to say the truth on the day of the ICO? Was there something stopping you before the ICO launch to reveal the truth. whatever it is, please clarify your position on the delay...

someone like me suspects ETH x-CEO just piss off ETH price drop cause of Wave ICO and bitching about organization trouble. that's not what you want we believe.

charleshoskinson　---> identity fraud? hero member though...

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Quote from: ICOcountdown.com on April 12, 2016, 10:29:21 AM

Any reason why this information was withheld until the day of the crowdsale?

This is a good question. I am glad at this point that I went to bed early and can make an informed decision after I hear the results of this thread.

CoinManiac1

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My question to Charles....

Why you bothered to say the truth on the day of the ICO? Was there something stopping you before the ICO launch to reveal the truth. whatever it is, please clarify your position on the delay...

ICOcountdown.com

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Any reason why this information was withheld until the day of the crowdsale?

philakone

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This seems like a revenge post with extremely malicious intent. I think we should all agree to report this to a moderator. It's inappropriate timing and harmful.

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