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legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1000
September 23, 2016, 11:33:44 PM
Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".

cool, I thought maybe to generate an address and have it 'known' on the tangle required some PoW be done. When I last tried running the wallet generating an address took about 90 sec and my CPU went into overdrive



That's right and recommended, but you can also use the address without attaching it to the tangle. It will get attached to the tangle when someone makes a transaction towards it. So your seed doesn't have to leave the offline machine.

When I tried generating some addresses on an air gapped PC I was only able to generate one address per seed. When I went to 'receive' an address appeared, but when I click 'attach to tangle'  the wallet just shows 'no milestone yet' for obvious reasons, and I can't see how to go onto generate a second address while the first is trying to attach to the tangle, so the user can't generate multiple addresses from a single seed on an air gapped PC. Is there a way to generate addresses using an api call maybe? I need more than one address for my balance, but would prefer using one seed.
This is a good question.

I imagine this functionality can be added to the GUI at a later date, but I would be interested to know for sure.
hero member
Activity: 763
Merit: 500
September 23, 2016, 09:08:25 PM
I have a new motto for IOTA: "IOTA - Connecting People!". Sounds too familiar though  Roll Eyes

IOTA's motto should be more like "IOTA - Connecting Machines!" instead. The current testing is trying to simulate the IoT sensors/devices environment.   
hero member
Activity: 1068
Merit: 523
September 23, 2016, 08:26:24 PM
Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".

cool, I thought maybe to generate an address and have it 'known' on the tangle required some PoW be done. When I last tried running the wallet generating an address took about 90 sec and my CPU went into overdrive



That's right and recommended, but you can also use the address without attaching it to the tangle. It will get attached to the tangle when someone makes a transaction towards it. So your seed doesn't have to leave the offline machine.

When I tried generating some addresses on an air gapped PC I was only able to generate one address per seed. When I went to 'receive' an address appeared, but when I click 'attach to tangle'  the wallet just shows 'no milestone yet' for obvious reasons, and I can't see how to go onto generate a second address while the first is trying to attach to the tangle, so the user can't generate multiple addresses from a single seed on an air gapped PC. Is there a way to generate addresses using an api call maybe? I need more than one address for my balance, but would prefer using one seed.
full member
Activity: 159
Merit: 100
September 23, 2016, 07:57:47 PM
Mandatory upgrade to 1.0.6 - http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/mandatory-upgrade-1-0-6/952

"As mentioned, there is no more automated peer discovery. What this means is that you have to manually find peers (5 - 7+ suggested) by asking people on Slack or the forum for their IP's. If you are running the GUI, you can easily add these nodes through Edit Server Configuration.

It is very important to keep in mind that the current version has mutual tethering. What this means is that you and your neighbor need to have each other added to their local node for the tethering process to work. Therefore when you ask your neighbor for their node, give them yours as well so that you can add each other to your nodes. All nodes should be added using the same schema: udp://IPADDRESS:PORT"

So currently IOTA is for two kinds of species:

1. Machines
2. Extremely communicative people, who are ready to contact 7 random unknown people (strangers) in some place called "slack", and start friendship with them - ask them to give you their IP address, then ask them to add your IP as a peer.

I have a new motto for IOTA: "IOTA - Connecting People!". Sounds too familiar though  Roll Eyes

*****
Side thought: as I do not belong to any of two categories above, I would rather wait for a light wallet though... Smiley


don't really have to be extremely communicative, just enough to make a sentence like (please let's exchange nodes...).... I guess one does not even need to be a Hero Member in order to have those basic skills Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1073
September 23, 2016, 07:00:25 PM
Mandatory upgrade to 1.0.6 - http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/mandatory-upgrade-1-0-6/952

"As mentioned, there is no more automated peer discovery. What this means is that you have to manually find peers (5 - 7+ suggested) by asking people on Slack or the forum for their IP's. If you are running the GUI, you can easily add these nodes through Edit Server Configuration.

It is very important to keep in mind that the current version has mutual tethering. What this means is that you and your neighbor need to have each other added to their local node for the tethering process to work. Therefore when you ask your neighbor for their node, give them yours as well so that you can add each other to your nodes. All nodes should be added using the same schema: udp://IPADDRESS:PORT"

So currently IOTA is for two kinds of species:

1. Machines
2. Extremely communicative people, who are ready to contact 7 random unknown people (strangers) in some place called "slack", and start friendship with them - ask them to give you their IP address, then ask them to add your IP as a peer.

I have a new motto for IOTA: "IOTA - Connecting People!". Sounds too familiar though  Roll Eyes

*****
Side thought: as I do not belong to any of two categories above, I would rather wait for a light wallet though... Smiley

legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004
September 23, 2016, 10:52:41 AM
I have old version did i must find to peers?

Yes, you have to find peers now until a "lite" version is available.
legendary
Activity: 2703
Merit: 1179
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September 23, 2016, 09:12:16 AM
I have old version did i must find to peers?

The upgrade to 1.0.6 is mandatory.

Please read: http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/mandatory-upgrade-1-0-6/952
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
September 23, 2016, 08:53:12 AM
I have old version did i must find to peers?
legendary
Activity: 2703
Merit: 1179
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September 23, 2016, 08:46:56 AM
I just installed 1.06 over 1.03
I logged in with my seed which used to have 1Gi

Now I cannot see anything in my balance anymore. And the wallet does not give any indication of synchronizing. Transactions to request is zero (has been from the start) and cpu at 0%

Have I lost my balance by installing over? I thought the seed was all that was needed to keep balance

Why is it not synchronizing?

Version 1.06 delete the database (IRI folder). You can download an actual DB here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6g7j3hs92zjbife/IRI.zip?dl=0

Automatic peerdiscovery is disabled in the new version (created problems).
You need to find new nodes. Ask in slack.
hero member
Activity: 763
Merit: 500
September 23, 2016, 08:44:41 AM
Mandatory upgrade to 1.0.6 - http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/mandatory-upgrade-1-0-6/952

"As mentioned, there is no more automated peer discovery. What this means is that you have to manually find peers (5 - 7+ suggested) by asking people on Slack or the forum for their IP's. If you are running the GUI, you can easily add these nodes through Edit Server Configuration.

It is very important to keep in mind that the current version has mutual tethering. What this means is that you and your neighbor need to have each other added to their local node for the tethering process to work. Therefore when you ask your neighbor for their node, give them yours as well so that you can add each other to your nodes. All nodes should be added using the same schema: udp://IPADDRESS:PORT"
legendary
Activity: 2165
Merit: 1002
September 23, 2016, 08:37:47 AM
I just installed 1.06 over 1.03
I logged in with my seed which used to have 1Gi

Now I cannot see anything in my balance anymore. And the wallet does not give any indication of synchronizing. Transactions to request is zero (has been from the start) and cpu at 0%

Have I lost my balance by installing over? I thought the seed was all that was needed to keep balance

Why is it not synchronizing?
legendary
Activity: 2703
Merit: 1179
Reflinks und User die solche posten sind Scheisse
September 23, 2016, 08:23:05 AM
Sweet concept, where can I buy one of these Air Benders?  Do you know of any reputable vendors in this free market?

You find offers here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1550236.280
 
                and here: https://iotatangle.slack.com/messages/trading/

Whoever the seller is: Use escrow




legendary
Activity: 1225
Merit: 1000
September 23, 2016, 02:54:29 AM
Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".

cool, I thought maybe to generate an address and have it 'known' on the tangle required some PoW be done. When I last tried running the wallet generating an address took about 90 sec and my CPU went into overdrive



That's right and recommended, but you can also use the address without attaching it to the tangle. It will get attached to the tangle when someone makes a transaction towards it. So your seed doesn't have to leave the offline machine.
hero member
Activity: 1068
Merit: 523
September 23, 2016, 02:20:53 AM
Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".

cool, I thought maybe to generate an address and have it 'known' on the tangle required some PoW be done. When I last tried running the wallet generating an address took about 90 sec and my CPU went into overdrive

legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
September 23, 2016, 01:14:54 AM
Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?

Sure of course.

And I'll save you some time in the future. The phrase you are looking for here is "air gapped".
hero member
Activity: 1068
Merit: 523
September 22, 2016, 11:12:50 PM
Is it possible to generate iota addresses for a paper wallet on an offline PC that never goes on the internet?
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
September 22, 2016, 08:40:27 AM
It allows us to have some rough approximation of the value of A as measured in B, or C in D, or E in F.

Fill these variables in with the most ridiculous things you can think of.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004
September 21, 2016, 10:22:52 PM
ETH will probably limp along for years like litecoin. It will be usurped for #2 by monero at some point though. Probably will hang out at #3 for a long time before someone brings a successful scalability focused crypto currency to market. At which time said project might surpass monero too.

Haha, can't tell if you are joking, Eth has the most active 3rd party developer group I've seen in crypto (along with plans to scale). Litecoin literally has zero developer activity. If Monero succeeds in becoming the defacto anonymous crypto (on dark markets), it will be targeted and banned across the world, taking heat off BTC. I would say Eth will pass BTC at some point or just be hacked into oblivion and be worth nothing, but stagnant is the last thing it will become.

They abandoned their principles and forked the network. I don't know if that's something you can come back from. I hope it isn't. But I could be wrong.

Yeah, but mainstream doesn't really care about immutability to be honest, only we do, we're a small minority.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 501
September 21, 2016, 09:41:07 PM
How is this the fate of iota, whether any news about iota?
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
September 21, 2016, 09:19:01 PM
ETH will probably limp along for years like litecoin. It will be usurped for #2 by monero at some point though. Probably will hang out at #3 for a long time before someone brings a successful scalability focused crypto currency to market. At which time said project might surpass monero too.

Haha, can't tell if you are joking, Eth has the most active 3rd party developer group I've seen in crypto (along with plans to scale). Litecoin literally has zero developer activity. If Monero succeeds in becoming the defacto anonymous crypto (on dark markets), it will be targeted and banned across the world, taking heat off BTC. I would say Eth will pass BTC at some point or just be hacked into oblivion and be worth nothing, but stagnant is the last thing it will become.

They abandoned their principles and forked the network. I don't know if that's something you can come back from. I hope it isn't. But I could be wrong.
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