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November 26, 2015, 11:03:53 AM
from my POV it's all about nano payments, IOTA is perfect for this.
merge a client with a communication component (e.g. tox) to enable people to 'earn' money e.g.
for advices, supports, facts, translations and so on. a free android hybrid like this, including
a global micro service directory with nice categories would be great. payment could be calculated
per word, if chat advise is used or per minute/seconds for calls. every micro service entry in
the directory contains the type of service (categorized) a rating from users already used this
resource, weighted by total service usage and the word/second/minute pricing.

people like to communicate and the more if they can earn something with this. big potential to
reach the external market with high usage numbers if done right.

without my current workload i would built an app like this immediatly, success guaranteed.

Added:
i also predict that the money earning wouldn't be the main motivation to use
such a service. the fun factor, sharing knowledge and conneting to people
around the world, enveloped with a monetary symbol of appreciation (IOTAs) is it.

legendary
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November 26, 2015, 11:01:47 AM
I need this too but don't we have already a lot of encrypted mail or chat providers on the market ?

Which one satisfies the both requirements - decentralized and lightweight?
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November 26, 2015, 10:48:47 AM
Personally, I need a decentralized email service that won't read my letters for its product placement tricks (side-effect: NSA won't spy me). This service will be something average between classical email and classical chat, the messages will be received by me only if I keep Iota node software running. If I can't run such software I can pay to retrieve (encrypted) letters from nodes that provide storage service in exchange for iotas.

I need this too but don't we have already a lot of encrypted mail or chat providers on the market ?
The only problem of all these software solutions is that you need the receiver to use the same software.

Today, almost no one use encryption. Kids use text messages, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp and Snapchat.
It just means that people don't give a damn about their privacy so what about going the other way around and create more spywares and personal data extraction methods ?

Should we think about better ways of making money or ways of making a better world ?

While the sale is progressing let's do a little brainstorming.
Iota network can be used as a carrier for any kind of data.

Well the killer app would be to merge existing services AND offer a better price.
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November 26, 2015, 10:28:24 AM
While the sale is progressing let's do a little brainstorming.

Iota network can be used as a carrier for any kind of data. Personally, I need a decentralized email service that won't read my letters for its product placement tricks (side-effect: NSA won't spy me). This service will be something average between classical email and classical chat, the messages will be received by me only if I keep Iota node software running. If I can't run such software I can pay to retrieve (encrypted) letters from nodes that provide storage service in exchange for iotas. I need your ideas about what types of services you need, so I could merge some of these services with mine.
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November 25, 2015, 11:52:52 PM
This is neat, a derivation of the Wallis product for pi (circa 1655) via quantum mechanics.

A quantum derivation of a classic math formula
http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/magazine/physicstoday/news/10.1063/PT.5.7220

Journal of Mathematical Physics Volume 56, Issue 11
http://dx.doi.org/10.1063/1.4930800
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November 25, 2015, 11:51:56 PM
Loophole-free Bell test TU Delft crowns 80-years-old debate on nature of reality: Einsteins “spooky action” is real.
http://www.tudelft.nl/en/current/latest-news/article/detail/einsteins-ongelijk-delfts-experiment-beeindigt-80-jaar-oude-discussie/

Definitely a really interesting result. Last 'loophole free' test turned out to have been analysed wrong, so expect another 6 months until consensus.  It also leave retrocausal and free will loophole open

A couple more links on the Bell test.

Quantum entanglement, loophole free  19 November 2015
http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/magazine/physicstoday/news/10.1063/PT.5.7221

Experiment records extreme quantum weirdness  9 November 2015
http://www.quantumlah.org/highlight/151109_tsirelson_bound.php
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November 25, 2015, 01:32:15 PM
And how does the infrastructure get built?

Partially Iota will ride on the success of the hardware which design will be funded by Iota sale. The hardware already takes into account such things as distributed computing and cryptography, it will provide hardware acceleration for the both.
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Stagnation is Death
November 25, 2015, 01:09:57 PM
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November 25, 2015, 12:37:44 PM
i'll move the discussion here to keep your crowdsale thread on topic

i don't know why you went this route. Why not have a conventional POW / blockchain phase for distribution, then shift to the DAG? In this case, the blockchain would really be used as simply a record of distribution.

And give all coins to a single botnet master? Hm, not sure it's a good alternative...

true, good point. I'm not saying its an easy problem. I'm just not a fan of the chosen approach. Its centralized. And granted, I haven't kept up with these threads, but 1 month distribution phase? I guess your hoping it takes to the markets after this. And how does the infrastructure get built? I know the topology of a DAG-based currency network is different than a blockchain-based network....

sorry, just rambling.
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November 25, 2015, 12:31:19 PM
I am still not sure about the applications of this token, IOT is itself in a very primitive state, more like a concept. What is the long term vision on this project?

IoT is not in a primitive state, there are already over 10 billion connected devices. Yes it's still early days, but far from just a concept. It's already a multi-multi-billion dollar industry. But precisely because we are at the cusp of this huge revolution the standards needs to be set now, hence the need for IOTA. This ecosystem needs an efficient, scalable and secure payment system.

I write more about this here: http://medium.com/@DavidSonstebo/iota-97592581f985
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November 25, 2015, 12:28:49 PM
I am still not sure about the applications of this token, IOT is itself in a very primitive state, more like a concept. What is the long term vision on this project?

I don't know what the core team's long term vision is, but I was attracted to it for the primary reason of mining decentralization. IOTA finds a way to recouple POW with network participation, which has been decoupled in bitcoin and most crypto, my favorite included. As I mentioned in their crowdsale thread, I'm disappointed with their approach to primary distribution, and I fear it will cripple the prospects of this network. 
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November 25, 2015, 12:24:36 PM
I am still not sure about the applications of this token, IOT is itself in a very primitive state, more like a concept. What is the long term vision on this project?

Define "very primitive state", please.
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November 25, 2015, 12:06:57 PM
I am still not sure about the applications of this token, IOT is itself in a very primitive state, more like a concept. What is the long term vision on this project?
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November 25, 2015, 11:03:38 AM
It seems that the final coin amount is settled down to 999,999,999. I wonder how many decimal points there will be after the change.

That amount was rounded. Technically there will be 1 billion without 10^-9.
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November 25, 2015, 11:02:16 AM
Come-from-Beyond, mthcl or David just one additional question: Is the amount of IOTA-Token/Coins really 999’999’999 and there are 9 figures after decimal point, so one more than Bitcoin have? So IOTA has even smaller units like a Bitcoin Satoshi? Thanks for clarification.
No. There will be 999'999'999'.999999999.

It seems that the final coin amount is settled down to 999,999,999. I wonder how many decimal points there will be after the change.
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November 25, 2015, 09:13:59 AM
legendary
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November 24, 2015, 01:50:44 PM
Any suggestion about how to generate a random seed code 81 chars long?

Use to generate chars one by one.

To generate a single char throw the die 3 times, each time write down 0 (for 1 point and 2 points), 1 (3 points, 4 points) or 2 (5 points, 6 points). Then take the number which is FIRST_VALUE + SECOND_VALUE * 3 + THIRD_VALUE * 9. If the result is 0 then take "9", otherwise take the corresponding letter of the Latin/English alphabet.

PS: Make sure it's a fair die, not one from the set of magic tricks.
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November 24, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Any suggestion about how to generate a random seed code 81 chars long?
It seems to me the longest but also best option is rolling dice using the first table here: http://world.std.com/~reinhold/dicewarefaq.html#tables
Or for something faster create 9 strings 9 chars long with this truly random strings generator: https://www.random.org/strings/   but is it enough secure even with https?

If I am correct, you only can use lowercase letters and 9 to create the pass phase.
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November 24, 2015, 12:54:44 PM

Any suggestion about how to generate a random seed code 81 chars long?

It seems to me the longest but also best option is rolling dice using the first table here: http://world.std.com/~reinhold/dicewarefaq.html#tables

Or for something faster create 9 strings 9 chars long with this truly random strings generator: https://www.random.org/strings/   but is it enough secure even with https?

legendary
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November 24, 2015, 09:43:41 AM
Every user must generate for him his own unique 81 chars length seed code ? 

Yes.
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