Topic: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation - page 30. (Read 171575 times)

Beware of price gouging!!!

I´d like to remind all potential buyers of the fact, that all IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are way beyond any reasonable market price . Before you buy from OTC sellers keep in mind that the current offers reflect a projected initial market cap of 15 - 30 million $. Price markups reach from 2000% - 4000% on the initial ICO price. --> The price your seller actually payed for his coins.

There is not one single crypto or oldschool derivate which would have justified an ICO or IPS surcharge of over 2000 %. Remember; Bitcoin uplift took several years; Etherium exchange price was way below current IOTA ICO price multiplicators

It just does not happen on this planet... If you buy 100Gigiota for 1,5 BTC now you will get ripped off and it will take months of market time to recover from your financial quick shot.

As for a serious suggestion: Wait to buy IOTA until they are traded on the exchanges. All market rules indicate an exchange price which does not exceed 100GIOTA / 0,5 BTC.

Right now OTC sellers can be devided into 1 of the following strategies:

1. Seller believes that exchange price will be way lower than rigged OTC offers on Bitcointalk. If this would not be the case, seller would wait until the sale on exchange markets
2. Seller believes that the outlook on IOTAS potential is overall limited and expects an early crash. Selling via OTC has biggest potential of ROI

Consider; what other reason would a seller have to offer IOTAS at the current price? If prices on exchanges happen to magically multiply by 3 - 10 times of current OTC price (this would constitute an initial exchange markup of 6000 % to 40000% compared to ICO), why would anyone sell now? Charity? 

You see; none of the offers here will lead you to quick ROI. Every investment into a new cryto coin comes along with a certain degree of risk. Buying OTC prices will multiply your risk. Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....

Conclusion: All IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are intransparent, rigged and overpriced.

Think now; thank me later. If you think my post is FUD just recalculate your risk for yourself...

UPDATE: Price confirmed by IOTA DEV:

ok thanks, must be a hell of a job doing 100's of manual transfers

how close are we to having a tangle explorer up and running?

Yes, i reconsidered; im a scammer again. Since the community does nothing to protect scammed buyers i have no other option but to declare war.

WARNING: Admiral_Bit is a scammer

Not our problem, you should've used escrow. We are not even remotely related to the trades you did with a scammer. We'll look into CH when everything else is sorted first.

No, plenty more to be done.

Beware of price gouging!!!

I´d like to remind all potential buyers of the fact, that all IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are way beyond any reasonable market price . Before you buy from OTC sellers keep in mind that the current offers reflect a projected initial market cap of 15 - 30 million $. Price markups reach from 2000% - 4000% on the initial ICO price. --> The price your seller actually payed for his coins.

There is not one single crypto or oldschool derivate which would have justified an ICO or IPS surcharge of over 2000 %. Remember; Bitcoin uplift took several years; Etherium exchange price was way below current IOTA ICO price multiplicators

It just does not happen on this planet... If you buy 100Gigiota for 1,5 BTC now you will get ripped off and it will take months of market time to recover from your financial quick shot.

As for a serious suggestion: Wait to buy IOTA until they are traded on the exchanges. All market rules indicate an exchange price which does not exceed 100GIOTA / 0,5 BTC.

Right now OTC sellers can be devided into 1 of the following strategies:

1. Seller believes that exchange price will be way lower than rigged OTC offers on Bitcointalk. If this would not be the case, seller would wait until the sale on exchange markets
2. Seller believes that the outlook on IOTAS potential is overall limited and expects an early crash. Selling via OTC has biggest potential of ROI

Consider; what other reason would a seller have to offer IOTAS at the current price? If prices on exchanges happen to magically multiply by 3 - 10 times of current OTC price (this would constitute an initial exchange markup of 6000 % to 40000% compared to ICO), why would anyone sell now? Charity? 

You see; none of the offers here will lead you to quick ROI. Every investment into a new cryto coin comes along with a certain degree of risk. Buying OTC prices will multiply your risk. Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....

Conclusion: All IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are intransparent, rigged and overpriced.

Think now; thank me later. If you think my post is FUD just recalculate your risk for yourself...

UPDATE: Price confirmed by IOTA DEV:

Looking to sell 500G at 7.5BTC

have all the manual claims been done by David? has he mentioned any details about that in slack?

please can someone contact me about what steps I need to take in order to receive the IOTA from CH scam I think it has nearly been one month now.

Any help appreciated.

Regards,

FT

Still selling some 25 GIOTA batches:

Hey guyes, want to help spread IOTA to the world and sell some small IOAT batches for small investors.

Here's my offer:
25 GIOTA / 0.5 BTC

We'll using the escrow service from yassin54 or Seccour.
If you are interested in a deal, do not hassitate to write me a PM (if you want to, you can write me in german :-))
Don’t try to scam me, I’m not stupid.
Fast TX guaranteed.

Payment received. Still only showing in history but not in balance. I guess I have to wait to be synced.
Thanks.

Yes. http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/foundation-announcement-and-update/492

Has the foundation recieved enough donations yet?

I did make this point in the other trading thread, but my comments were deleted. The price they are offering is not realistic, especially as their added value is not particularly significant; if they want a deal they need to make a new offer that is at least close to the market price, not based on what they think our ROI should be in fiat value. Their offer is not 20x because we bought in with BTC not fiat. It is also irrelevant what we bought for.

The SF will not get anyone to part with that kind of quantity for that kind of price, no one with 15Ti is that daft.

It would be more productive to go back to TSF and get a new offer than to pretend this offer is not just a waste of everybody's time.

Selling 200Gi for 5 BTC.

Do get in touch for a quick trade.

Trade through escrow only.

ASK (selling) .0279 BTC/GI | 360 BTC | 12890 Gi | @windjc

i sell 100 GIOTA an more for 2BTC/100GIOTA pls pm, only with escrow!

I agree, but not at a price 50%+ under lowest trade value when larger amounts are selling at a premium. I'll send them a message only because I like their fund and would't mind then being a part of the community. Don't like that they are still holding Steem though.

Just DM on iotaslack: @21xhipster:

See if you can arrange something with him, and otherwise we have to create something like an deal where several sellers are involved.

We surely have to make work out of this, cause they will add an additional value to IOTA.