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July 25, 2016, 08:35:26 AM
Admiral_twit is a con-artist, you were warned!



...Ja, ich weiß ich bin sehr schlecht und handeln sollte auch keiner mit mir...

...Gerechterweise muss ich ja zugeben, dass das Trolling ein wenig aus dem Ruder gelaufen ...

...Wieso gehen die Verkäufer jedes verdammte mal wieder drauf ein wenn ich meine schwachsinnige Story vom Price Gauging poste?

... Ich hab mit Freunden über die letzten 2 Wochen ca 15K € in Bitcoin gesammelt um in IOTA zu investieren.  
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... Yes I am really bad and really no one should deal with me...

... to be fair I have to admit that the trolling grew a bit out of hand ...

... why do the sellers react to it every time when I post that moronic story about the Price Gauging (sic)?...

... I have collected 15k€ over the last 2 weeks with my friends to invest in IOTA

Die Devise ist: 1. fudden, 2. billig einsteigen, 3. Mit Gewinn wieder raus.

Ich bereite übrigens gerade einen neuen Schlag gegen IOTA vor. Danach ist das Ding fertig...

 

The motto is: 1. fudd, 2. buy cheap, 3. get out with profit.
By the way, I am currently preparing a new strike against IOTA. After that, the thing will be finished...

 

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July 25, 2016, 08:02:12 AM
Be ready for iota prices skyrocketing after the announcement of goals reached and Foundation funded Cool
wow mate any time frame for this one to proceed? just wanted to check this project i never been here quite often
so i don't have any info but interesting to read your post i will looking on forward for this.
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cryptoPag.com
July 25, 2016, 07:59:18 AM
Be ready for iota prices skyrocketing after the announcement of goals reached and Foundation funded Cool
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July 25, 2016, 07:57:06 AM
Beware of price gouging!!!

I´d like to remind all potential buyers of the fact, that all IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are way beyond any reasonable market price . Before you buy from OTC sellers keep in mind that the current offers reflect a projected initial market cap of 15 - 30 million $. Price markups reach from 2000% - 4000% on the initial ICO price. --> The price your seller actually payed for his coins.

There is not one single crypto or oldschool derivate which would have justified an ICO or IPS surcharge of over 2000 %. Remember; Bitcoin uplift took several years; Etherium exchange price was way below current IOTA ICO price multiplicators

It just does not happen on this planet... If you buy 100Gigiota for 1,5 BTC now you will get ripped off and it will take months of market time to recover from your financial quick shot.

As for a serious suggestion: Wait to buy IOTA until they are traded on the exchanges. All market rules indicate an exchange price which does not exceed 100GIOTA / 0,5 BTC.

Right now OTC sellers can be devided into 1 of the following strategies:

1. Seller believes that exchange price will be way lower than rigged OTC offers on Bitcointalk. If this would not be the case, seller would wait until the sale on exchange markets
2. Seller believes that the outlook on IOTAS potential is overall limited and expects an early crash. Selling via OTC has biggest potential of ROI

Consider; what other reason would a seller have to offer IOTAS at the current price? If prices on exchanges happen to magically multiply by 3 - 10 times of current OTC price (this would constitute an initial exchange markup of 6000 % to 40000% compared to ICO), why would anyone sell now? Charity? 

You see; none of the offers here will lead you to quick ROI. Every investment into a new cryto coin comes along with a certain degree of risk. Buying OTC prices will multiply your risk. Believe me; risk assessments are part of my daily business....

Conclusion: All IOTA OTC offers on BTCtalk are intransparent, rigged and overpriced.

Think now; thank me later. If you think my post is FUD just recalculate your risk for yourself...

UPDATE: Price confirmed by IOTA DEV:

BTW. what about my bet:

im betting 0,5 BTC that exchange prices of IOTA will be under 0,5 BTC / 100Gigiota 24 hours after exchange start.

@Sellers: Since your prices are so modest, whats the prob with joining the bet? Just do it...

I won't bet against that, it's probable.
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July 25, 2016, 07:45:52 AM
Well you should rather be careful about price fixing sellers. They want to rip you off. The reason why im alone here is because im the only one who is actually not trying to sell overpriced shit coins...

My trust level was fudded  IOTA scalpers. And now they are trying to discredit me opinion. Sad move, but what do you expect...?

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July 25, 2016, 07:27:07 AM
Be careful guys

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July 25, 2016, 07:03:55 AM
I find this project interesting, but do not understand the anger expressed here.
I hope we all can go back to a calm and technical discussion. Thanks.

The time for technical discussions has way passed. Right now fudding the shit out of this scamcoin should be our main objective...

IOTA is broken by design...
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http://github.com/root8/fsigDecredGUI
July 25, 2016, 07:01:43 AM
I find this project interesting, but do not understand the anger expressed here.
I hope we all can go back to a calm and technical discussion. Thanks.
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July 25, 2016, 06:58:37 AM
NUMBERS HAVE NOT CHANGED FOR DAYS NOW. JUST ADMIT YOUR FAILURE...

Have you taken a look at the Forum: https://forum.iotatoken.com/ ?

No posting since 2 days. This thing is finished...


Erm, because we are all in slack constantly talking, no one is using the forum atm because it's all so busy!

What numbers haven't changed? Why would any numbers change, nothing is happening at the moment apart from working towards the next release and stabilising tangle.

Your attacks are getting weaker and weaker... pretty feeble attempts at FUD now  Roll Eyes

So you are planning your 20 Million Dollar Exchange start in a chatroom. Im constantly monitoring that garbage channel; all i see is price fixing and complaining about IOTAs inability to process transactions..
legendary
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July 25, 2016, 06:58:00 AM
Satoshi Fund WTB 15,6Ti for 100 BTC << See below, actually not me buying. Just for better view.

If any whale wants to sell, this would be a nice offer to consider, would be nice to have them on bord: http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/satoshi-fund-is-looking-for-whales/478
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July 25, 2016, 06:40:01 AM
NUMBERS HAVE NOT CHANGED FOR DAYS NOW. JUST ADMIT YOUR FAILURE...

Have you taken a look at the Forum: https://forum.iotatoken.com/ ?

No posting since 2 days. This thing is finished...


Erm, because we are all in slack constantly talking, no one is using the forum atm because it's all so busy!

What numbers haven't changed? Why would any numbers change, nothing is happening at the moment apart from working towards the next release and stabilising tangle.

Your attacks are getting weaker and weaker... pretty feeble attempts at FUD now  Roll Eyes
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Newbie
July 25, 2016, 06:29:26 AM
WARNING: Admiral_Bit is a scammer

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July 25, 2016, 06:18:54 AM
NUMBERS HAVE NOT CHANGED FOR DAYS NOW. JUST ADMIT YOUR FAILURE...

Have you taken a look at the Forum: https://forum.iotatoken.com/ ?

No posting since 2 days. This thing is finished...
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July 25, 2016, 06:14:24 AM
David has said tonight is the deadline, not this morning, so yet more pointless lies.


...Ja, ich weiß ich bin sehr schlecht und handeln sollte auch keiner mit mir...

...Gerechterweise muss ich ja zugeben, dass das Trolling ein wenig aus dem Ruder gelaufen ...

...Wieso gehen die Verkäufer jedes verdammte mal wieder drauf ein wenn ich meine schwachsinnige Story vom Price Gauging poste?

... Ich hab mit Freunden über die letzten 2 Wochen ca 15K € in Bitcoin gesammelt um in IOTA zu investieren.  
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... Yes I am really bad and really no one should deal with me...

... to be fair I have to admit that the trolling grew a bit out of hand ...

... why do the sellers react to it every time when I post that moronic story about the Price Gauging (sic)?...

... I have collected 15k€ over the last 2 weeks with my friends to invest in IOTA

Die Devise ist: 1. fudden, 2. billig einsteigen, 3. Mit Gewinn wieder raus.

Ich bereite übrigens gerade einen neuen Schlag gegen IOTA vor. Danach ist das Ding fertig...

 

The motto is: 1. fudd, 2. buy cheap, 3. get out with profit.
By the way, I am currently preparing a new strike against IOTA. After that, the thing will be finished...

 

sr. member
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July 25, 2016, 06:12:34 AM
Doesnt even matter now;

Just to make thinks clear for everyone around here:

Devs always said that there will be no further development if the funding goal is not met.

You clearly missed the funding goal; the game is over! Stop hiding behind troll accusations. Answer the question:
 
WHAT IS A COIN GOOD FOR WHEN ITS DEVELOPMENT STOPPED B4 LISTING ON  EXCHANGES???
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July 25, 2016, 06:08:53 AM

...Ja, ich weiß ich bin sehr schlecht und handeln sollte auch keiner mit mir...

...Gerechterweise muss ich ja zugeben, dass das Trolling ein wenig aus dem Ruder gelaufen ...

...Wieso gehen die Verkäufer jedes verdammte mal wieder drauf ein wenn ich meine schwachsinnige Story vom Price Gauging poste?

... Ich hab mit Freunden über die letzten 2 Wochen ca 15K € in Bitcoin gesammelt um in IOTA zu investieren.  
------------------------------------------------------------

... Yes I am really bad and really no one should deal with me...

... to be fair I have to admit that the trolling grew a bit out of hand ...

... why do the sellers react to it every time when I post that moronic story about the Price Gauging (sic)?...

... I have collected 15k€ over the last 2 weeks with my friends to invest in IOTA

Die Devise ist: 1. fudden, 2. billig einsteigen, 3. Mit Gewinn wieder raus.

Ich bereite übrigens gerade einen neuen Schlag gegen IOTA vor. Danach ist das Ding fertig...

 

The motto is: 1. fudd, 2. buy cheap, 3. get out with profit.
By the way, I am currently preparing a new strike against IOTA. After that, the thing will be finished...

 



Just going to spam this after every post you make  Grin
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July 25, 2016, 06:02:52 AM
Well i dont consider my last post to be spam. Its a valid observation. Devs dont even try to deny it; just pulling the troll card.

After all: i was right the whole time; IOTA fanboys fucked up big time...


Sellers aren't scamming anyone, they set an ask price.  If the buyers aren't happy they don't buy.  The sellers then lower the ask price to a level buyers are willing to pay.

It's called an open free market.

Price fixing  and holding back valuable information is SCAM. You get jailtime for this stuff on the "free market"...

It isn't price-fixing, it's a sellers market. Price-fixing is an orchestrated and coordinated thing. A sellers market simply has more demand than supply and encourages prices up.

Your post was trolling because my offer was also among the cheapest on the page, there were at least three offers that were more expensive than the one I made directly above mine. You are simply repeating yourself in the attempt to fud, as evidenced by the quotes of other things you've been quoted saying.

Give up dude, there are only 300 sellers, if any of us were stupid enough to sell at the price you want to buy at we would already have done it.

You are just wasting your time and everyone else's.

No one is buying the shit coming out of your mouth and your pocket... Just shut up and punch yourself really hard. I will tell you when its time to stop...
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July 25, 2016, 06:00:42 AM
Well i dont consider my last post to be spam. Its a valid observation. Devs dont even try to deny it; just pulling the troll card.

After all: i was right the whole time; IOTA fanboys fucked up big time...


Sellers aren't scamming anyone, they set an ask price.  If the buyers aren't happy they don't buy.  The sellers then lower the ask price to a level buyers are willing to pay.

It's called an open free market.

Price fixing  and holding back valuable information is SCAM. You get jailtime for this stuff on the "free market"...

It isn't price-fixing, it's a sellers market. Price-fixing is an orchestrated and coordinated thing. A sellers market simply has more demand than supply and encourages prices up.

Your post was trolling because my offer was also among the cheapest on the page, there were at least three offers that were more expensive than the one I made directly above mine. You are simply repeating yourself in the attempt to fud, as evidenced by the quotes of other things you've been quoted saying.

Give up dude, there are only 300 sellers, if any of us were stupid enough to sell at the price you want to buy at we would already have done it.

You are just wasting your time and everyone else's.
sr. member
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July 25, 2016, 05:54:19 AM
Who is price fixing.  There are multiple sellers all able to set any price they want.  Buyers are able to purchase directly from any seller where they feel the price is fair.

That is not price fixing.

I highly encourage that everyone just ignore this guy from now on, from his very first post he showed that his sole intention was to get iotas for cheap, when that didn't work he panicked and meltdown of delusions ensued. Hell, he even went as far as attempting to exploit the tragedy in Nice last week for personal profit. Just ignore him and he'll move on.

Oh just shut up; no one is believing you anymore... Go and suck on your worthless IDIOTA
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July 25, 2016, 05:52:32 AM
Who is price fixing.  There are multiple sellers all able to set any price they want.  Buyers are able to purchase directly from any seller where they feel the price is fair.

That is not price fixing.

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Price fixing is an agreement between participants on the same side in a market to buy or sell a product, service, or commodity only at a fixed price, or maintain the market conditions such that the price is maintained at a given level by controlling supply and demand.

This is exactly what the sellers did. I can give you hundreds of lines from the slack channel where devs and users plotted against they buyers. Im tellin ya; this is scam...
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