Topic: IOTA - Unmoderated thread - page 57. (Read 70768 times)

As you can see, there are three categories in that list: shrills, sockpuppets and "investors". Those three categories intersect with the attributes of greed, naive and idiot. Feel free to define yourself within the boundaries of these. I am sorry, logic dictates there are no more categories and attributes that we can apply to the participants of this scam (i.e. you could be a naive "investor" which is obviously a lot better than being a greedy shrill ... you can see a lot from those in this thread).

You seem to suffer from a form of shizophrenic solipsism. Everyone who arguments against you is a sockpuppet or shrill. I'm sorry that we are making fun of you.
But then again, you're making fun of yourself...

Btw, the reality is, most of the "investors" spent this range of money, 0.5-1 BTC. There are a few with larger investments, but the average amount is around that. Most of the coins were actually bought by the two scammers, and of course this is a no news to anyone who understand how these scams work. No wonder why they desperately try to generate hype with all these sockpuppets and shrills. Buy your own ICO, hype, P&D and unload.

Thanks for not accusing me of being a sockpuppet

Yeah, yeah. That's what I did hear during the Moolah and Bitbay scams from Vericoin "investors" and Bobsurplus shrills respectively. The shrills, sockpuppets and "investors" always says that, don't they. What else a naive or idiot (please pick which is applicable to you) can say when he realize the scam is busted.

I spent a small amount of bitcoin (not even 1) on the IOTA presale to do just that, support novel tech. DAG-tokens are promising and if they work well could be a better way to do cryptocurrency than blockchains. If IOTA proves the concept, great.

Vitriol and name-calling and all of the other unnecessary attacks don't reinforce your position against IOTA, it does the opposite.

I will do some research as well on Elastic Coin and depending on the fund allocation and who is handling the money and how I might give them some money. Just for the sake of supporting a novel technology. Again, the use case is very interesting, it is certainly ambitious but if everything works out then it seems doable. If they will not sell the coin on an exchange to the naives, noobs or idiots then I will be probably interested (that was my condition to the Gadgetcoin developers as well, don't do a P&D and don't sell the coin on an exchange to the naive crowd but instead of try to find a VC investor to develop the project.)

thanks man.

although it seems crazy to drop few btc to a new ICO, i still feel more comfortable than LISK and IOTA.

thanks for your advices. I am always watching you to find this or that scam, including BITBAY.

LOL, so you own 0,9 to 1.3 BTC.

ROFL, you are such an entertainer - water balloons, right. Actually I'm starting to like you.

Wow, what a nose you had there. This project was such an insider tip 

TBH, no, you've clearly been covered up by the masses.

Finally some truth, that's all you care about.

Another ROFL. I'm sure Greenpeace is gonna be delighted receiving 50 dollars from you.

TL;DR although your only 16-ish, and delusions of grandeur appear to be your closest friends, I think your a very funny. Keep it up 

What do you think of gadgetcoin? I heard it's a scam. Is it true?

I think you are right about that these LISK, JINN, IOTA fraudsters. As you said they ride the BTC and ETH waves. The building stone of their business model is the idiocy of their uninformed and uneducated supporters.

I noticed that Elastic Coin project and I think the objective of the project is fine. Generally I like projects which objective is to deliver a real solution in a niche area. I even liked to theme of the AI project of that Joe guy until it turned out the fat wanker is a truly asshole con artist which was actually a quick realization once his shills and sockpuppets shown up in the thread (I did lots of work on AI software when I was young and I was happy to see someone try something in that field, but that coin was a blatant scam).
I think projects like Skycoin or Ethereum - regardless whether it yield "ROI" or not - could deliver a socially important solution, and therefore they worth some crowdfunding support.
I noticed the SIA sign in your signature, their use case worth the effort as well. Personally I don't think a decentralized file system is a viable technology proposition, never mind that it is viable business proposition, because I think there is no monetization route for decentralized file system solutions. Having said that, the viability of the idea must be validated and therefore, it's great the SIA guys try to do that. It could be the case with that Elastic Coin as well. The project identifies a real world use case and then aims to provide a solution for it. A niche area use case that relates to a valid information technology challenge. The keyword is the niche, as a start-up has a better chance to succeed by creating solution for a niche, unoccupied business place instead of go against multibillion dollar, well established companies, which is what the LISK fraudsters try to accomplish by saying we will create an ecosystem for application development (DAP) and then the world will magically start using it. In the meantime their USP is that the pathetic thing is written in fucking Nodejs, so the shills go around saying that bohooooo it is written in Nodejs, it is revolutionary (any rational individual can see what a fucking nonsense the whole LISK proposition is).

To get to the point about Elastic Coin, the issue is the unregulated crowd funding. Again, they collect money from the wannabe rich greedy users and from the usual idiots of this microcosmos prior delivering the solution. So they create a speculative asset in the first place instead of creating a solution. The usual argument is, ohhhhh they need financial resource from the idiots to develop the software. I disagree with that. Firstly, there are notable solutions which were delivered without milking the idiots and scamming the public (the solutions of Linus Torvalds or Satoshi Nakamoto comes to mind mind as such), secondly if you need fund then go on the regulated avenues using VC and angel investors or regulated crowdfunding platforms which all provides the investors with some kind of protection. If they still want to do the crowdfunding here, then they must have reputable users on board to oversee the allocation of the fund and ensure the fund is strictly used for technology development.

you are a truly scam hunter!

LISK thread is full of sock puppets and cheerleaders. those two "devs" are nothing more than promoters. lol

They just wanna ride ethereum wind.

How do you think this one?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/this-message-was-too-old-and-has-been-purged-1374480

LISK is a pretty much similar scam. Crypti ran out of money - just like JINN did - and then two wankers - similar to IOTA - started a new money collecting party, which is LISK. There is precisely zero chance that anyone ever will use the Crypti or LISK solution in any real world businesses or projects. Just like Crypti was unable to attract any real world use cases, businesses, users in the last 18 months, LISK will be unable to serve any real world use cases as well. There is simply no market for these digital excrements in the context of real world business processes. LISK is nothing more than a pathetic P&D speculative instrument. The greedy "investors" of LISK - just like the shrills of IOTA - try to roll out a P&D at the expenses of naive idiots who will buy into the hype and P&D. Again, the sad state of crypto currencies: nobody cares about these shits outside of this scam driven Bitcointalk microcosmos. Their social and commercial importance in global level is precisely zero. Except Bitcoin (and perhaps Ethereum), the whole ecosystem is a completely irrelevant proposition and a dead end.

Hi altcoinuk! The gadgetcoin developers are working and active. Please check out the gadgetnet Ryver forum.
What you think about LISK?

I support Bitcoin in the the first place and with the majority of my money, and I do support projects which try to deliver something real. The Gadgetcoin developers have about 2-3 weeks to deliver what they promised (a real IoT solution) and then the party is over as far as my concerns - if they are unable to deliver then they will be in trouble with me. I support Ethereum from day one, because at the time their smart contract concept was a genuinely novel idea and I thought there is a slight chance that they can deliver a real and useful decentralized blockchain technology for real world businesses. I am sure you remember how much I was talking about the smart contract concept and its potential to deliver a fantastic return on investment. The financial success is there all right, but I am very unhappy with the direction of ETH and the current meaningless and baseless P&D. If the direction doesn't change then I will exit. C'est la vie. I will give the profit to some charity. I support Skycoin, because the mesh network concept is a socially important initiative and I believe the developer is smart enough to deliver it. If he delivers the mesh network than the society as a whole will benefit from it (see the totalitarian trends in politics which makes the mesh network an important initiative). I will support TPTB_need_war. He is probably not from the Samaritans as well, but he is at least intelligent enough to don't base his project on a blatant scam like these IOTA/JINN wankers did so most likely he will deliver something useful.

In 95% of the cases you are spot on about all kind of things. It doesn't surprise me you understand better than anyone does here - including me - that JINN and IOTA are blatant scams. There is nothing to do with these low life fraudsters except contact law enforcement, let law enforcement handle the case and put them in jail, next to the Moolah scammer Ryan Kennedy. The sockpuppets and shrills were trolling 18 months ago - like now the IOTA sockpuppets and shrills troll all over the place - when I said that I will contact law enforcement about Moolah. Now, the Moolah scammer Ryan Kennedy is in prison. It was you and me who pointed out the Bitbay scam. Now the Bitbay scammers are being investigated by law enforcement. The good news for the future victims of this blatant IOTA/JIN scam is that David boy and the Belarusian will end up in prison as well, and then some of the money will be recovered. Still, the fact that these scammers took over the crypto currency market is indeed a very sad state of affairs.

ALT COIN UK is no liar.

Get in their teams, gain their confidence, gorge at their tables, and shut them down.

While AltcoinUK is quite the basket case, he happens to be right: This, just like JINN and NXT itself, is a clear ponzi scam.

Not a lot unlike the other he supports, Gadget, mind you...

Strong argument 

That's a lie, we all know it.

What did I present where?
You never brought any real investor to any project at all. Why are you trying so hard to pretend being something that you are not?

We all know that you are still in school. Your total investment volume is likely a three figure number (it goes without saying, that I speak of USD not BTC).

Finish school, try to get some experience with girls (or boys if that's more to your liking), rent your first flat, get a job, ... and then, only then, come back here and we will all pay a bit of attention to what you say.

Apparently, the IOTA scammers think the address of their "office" (i.e. David's momma's basement) shouldn't be public. LoL LoL Apparently, they demand from the moderators to delete the posts with regards to the address of their office. Such company information for the very good reasons and by definition is public. David boy, the chief scammer of IOTA operates the IOTA/JINN business - remember, the business which suppose to take on Intel with its revolutionary microprocessor hardware - from his momma's basement at Reinemoveien 8, Hvittingfoss, Norway. However, he thinks such information (the company's public address) should not appear in the public. He thinks the IOTA company address and the picture of his "office" (i.e. his momma's basement) should be hidden. These scammers are lack of common sense, I guess that's why they are scammers in the first place.