Topic: IOTA - Unmoderated thread - page 60. (Read 70784 times)

Son, you need to take your legal nonsense and your self deluded control of process from here, back to your scam thread and then you can shine there with your bollocks. If you take issue with what I do and say, then you do what you think fit best to your scam operation. I couldn't give a monkey what you do. Here is what we do: at the moment you start selling your scam on exchanges, you take your scam from your closed circle of investors to the public and you start realize your genius ROI at the expense of naive bagholders then we contact law enforcement. My friendly suggestion and second warning: stop the P&D, keep the jamboree within yourself and the naive, uninformed, greedy and idiots who gave you money and then at least you avoid legal troubles. Now go, you are just embarrassing yourself.

One scam at a time. In 2014 it was the Moolah scam. In 2015 it was the Bitbay scam. In 2016 it is IOTA. I never heard of NxtChg. Go and deal with his scam if you have time and bothers you. I will provide you with professional and moral support :-)))

Actually altcoinUK, let's do this.

Give me your real name (via PM if you don't want it public) and then we'll get in touch legally. I don't care about your hilarious lies about me, but you are slandering a legally registered company with 100% provably ficticious claims, which is an issue. Now you got a chance, either prove that you truly believe we are scamming or accept that no one will ever take you seriously again.

I don't know anything about NxtChg but from that quoted post he seems a clever and reasonable man :-)))  it seems at least he understands how delusional the technical objectives of IOTA scam project are. His assessment about IOTA is absolutely spot on. 

Son, I understand the youth combined with greed results from time to time in scam projects like IOTA, but I also know just a very few young like yourself scams money from the idiots, uninformed and wannabe rich. So, you need to get off your high horse, stop your P&D, get a job or start a business or just simply fuck off without luring money from others. First warning!

Yeah, let's put the IoT stuff aside. I am investing in brick and mortar IoT business. I understand and explained what is required to succeed in the IoT sector, and I explained - as much as can be known and analysed as they didn't even present a business plan - why the IOTA/JINN operation has zero chance to monetize their software in IoT.

As for the coin, I am sorry what coin? David boy by being aware of the financial regulations and criminal law which he breaches, - quite understandably - is shitting himself and tries really-really hard to twist his ICO by saying no-no, we are not selling securities nor investment nor a coin ... no-no we are selling a software token. (On the other hand he is stupid enough publicly stating that he is working hard to take the coin to exchanges. Not that matters what he says since law enforcement can track down what he did). So he is trying to mask very-very hard the nature of the operation by reiterating the token isn't a speculative investment. In the meantime - and he voluntarily admit it - he works hard to get his token to altcoin exchanges which are by definition nothing else but platform for speculative trading (see my explanation about how alt cryptos used by no real world applications except by speculators).

The terms and conditions attempts to enforce the notions that the "investors" don't buy the token for the purpose of speculative investment. In the meantime the context, the environment and actions of the money party organizers make clear that IOTA is a crypto currency that will be traded on exchanges.
The sales material states IOTA token is not a speculative asset because it is not on exchanges - in the meantime the leader, David boy works hard to take the token to exchanges.

Business model wise and legally it is a big mess and however they try to mask the nature of it of course it is an alternative crypto currency/token which is by definition supposed to be a store of value, a speculative instrument. One thing is sure, this money collection party - especially accompanied with the incoming trading on exchanges and P&D procedure - constitutes a breach of criminal law and financial regulations in the jurisdictions of the scammers and the inevitable bagholders.
However the perpetrators of this blatant scam tries to delude themselves, however they try to claim no responsibility with regards to financial losses of investors, the terms and conditions and risk document don't give them a bypass. Quite the opposite, as usual, law enforcement will see that as a calculated act to hide the true nature of their fraudulent money party.

Briefly, that came to my mind about the IOTA coin to answer your question :-))))

Everyone, why are you feeding a troll? EVERYTHING he is saying is provably false ( even including my age ), you are falling for the oldest trick in the book. He's either in full psychosis or literally got no life, probably both. Just ignore him. /permanently out of this thread.

Let's just put all that IoT stuff aside for a moment. What are your thoughts on the coin, IOTA?

While the IOTA cheerleaders, sockpuppets and shills troll this thread more and more start to understand the nature of the blatant IOTA/JINN scam.



In the meantime David boy, the 24 years old leader of IOTA, without any academic background, with zero experience in IoT and of course with his zero experience in business talks about Internet of Things to the idiots in their moderated thread by putting together what he has read in other projects' white papers, in magazines and articles about IoT. Priceless scam operation. Since IOTA does not have any business plan nor an IoT solution, David boy keeps the hope of idiots high with his vision about IoT. And of course he assures the IOTA "investors" the coin will be on multiple exchanges so the P&D is on its way. No, of course it's not a P&D ... never mind he works hard with exchanges to have platform for the P&D. What a bollocks! The inevitable bagholders need to be careful with this shit.

+1 

he is also Rockefeller and walked on UK cash.

wow the delusions.

next you tell us you are jesus and walked on water?

again verbal diarrhea from our funny eaten by cancer brain cashUKtroll 

lame, you'd better go home pseudo-investor and get some sleep 

What you think about yourself is besides the point. The point is, P&D operations like NXT, JINN/IOTA and virtually all other currencies which used by absolutely no real world environment outside of manipulated crypto currency exchanges can only deliver their wonderful "ROI" at the expense of naive, wannabe rich and uninformed users (bagholders) who buy into the hype. There is no real demand for these digital excrements except the fraudulent demand of endless hype and shilling. These digital excrements has no role in society nor in businesses. Their only role has been to deliver the "ROI" at the expense of bagholders, which is the dream of the "investors". The large ecosystem of NXT has no role in society nor in real world businesses. The exactly same applies to IOTA and JINN. The fact that some innovations or software development emerges from these scams cannot approve nor justify the existence of these operations, even if some says "yeah but they deliver some innovation".

The socially and economically important concept of decentralized crypto currency has been reduced to fucking speculation instruments and the whole process is driven by a few scammers like our boy in Scandinavia and our developer in Belarus who project the prospect of a wonderful ROI to their "investors".

Even the positive developments like NEM which takes the blockhain concept to banks aren't in line with the decentralized, P2P crypto currency concept, but at least those guys are not blatant scammers as they have a real world use case, so their technology and coin could represent a real value i.e. something other than a speculative instrument. The IOTA scammers with the IoT and microprocessor use cases (as I explained above) don't have anything, not even a realistic business prospect, except that a few greedy idiots want to replicate the successful NXT ROI with IOTA, again at the expense of bagholders.

it doesn't make me a scammer i speculate on exchanges with crypto currencies !!!!! 

 

damn you altcoinUK..my stomach hurts from laughing now...

And something in additive, information from the past (now history). It's about how many ideas and opportunities was by big corporations and how many ideas and opportunities have "just" brilliant inventors with future vision.

Ideas about computer chips was designed in the garage 
The creators of the personal computers (big fish at that time) believed that the computers (OF COURSE) can never be used by ordinary consumers. 

All of them were deceived from themselves, "personal computers is just scam and P&D from the garage". They trusted just as today mental retarded cashUK idiot only in pound UK.

Nevertheless, I mus say, altcoinUKtroll is very hungry, it is necessary to feed 


@martismartis: this psychopath - altcoinUK - with the brain which was eaten by cancer (confirmed from him). As he himself said, he is an investor, which lost a lot of BTC on the exchange.
Now he is desperately trying to somehow reduce the price of IOTA, he want to buy it as cheap as possible and just as quickly sell. P&D - this is exactly what HE wants. This loser is trying to regain its lost BTC, thats why je says this all as the automatic repeat without noticing the obvious arguments. The is no for him coin, which is good, only UK pounds is good for him. ONLY CASH. Only UK pounds is now for him not a scam.
Ethereum for him is a "scam from 24 year old programmer, this is P&D from russian programmer from Canada" and IOTA for him is a "scam from 24 year old programmer, this is P&D from belorussian programmer from Norway". Ehtereum - "russian scam, P&D from Canada", IOTA - "belorussian scam, P&D from Norway", BTC - "japanese scam, P&D from China".
This blatant lie, he will try to repeat as machine, just to get back his sterling at the exchange. He don't care for the new technology. Trust me he don't care for bitcoin - this is for him "just scam from 24 year old japanese programmer". All is scam.
This washed-up idiot idolize only UK pounds. THIS IS HIS COIN.
But he will very upset if he understand that his cash god UK pound rapidly falling in inflation. Than he will scream and cry, that UK pound "is scam, P&D, cashUK is scam, cashUK is scam, cashUK is scam!". 

By the way it's very funny to read how this washed-up idiot is catched in loop in his lie.

That's a very unfair and undue interpretation of this thread. Due to the value growth of Bitcoin, the decentralized crypto currency concept has been very kind to me since February 2013 and it is my moral duty to point out scams which hurt the noble ideology of decentralized crypto (so I do from time to time and then some scammers go to prison). Therefore, this thread is to reveal the nature of this blatant scam, so the target audience of the incoming IOTA P&D will have my objective opinion and don't have to rely on the meaningless hyping of cheerleaders, sockpuppets and shills.



It is a very important point indeed. You have to understand the location and age are important factors in the context of a business operation. Let me explain you the first one as I have explained already in details why experience, academic background and expertise are important in the implementation phase of a business, and since David boy has none of those the proposed operation is a scam. (I assume don't need to repeat again that apart from the age factor why the IOTA and JINN projects are unrealistic and will generate zero dollar revenue. I explained that).

Why the location is important? As you know the genius business plan is to challenge Intel, TI and Samsung in the microporcessor design and manufacturing field. In the meantime, the main technology figure of the operation hides in the lawless, Lukashenko admiring safe heaven of Belarus (from where he can organize his blatant scams). So he is isolated, due to visa restrictions he can travel to only Fiji, Kyrgyzstan and Afghanistan, but please note he is not selling goat cheese nor Kalashnikov to Afghans, but he is selling a revolutionary microprocessor to the west and therefore he would need to travel to Silicon Valley, London, Sidney to attend meetings, conferences, work shops ... but he can't travel because pro primo he doesn't get visa, pro secundo if he travel then law enforcement will catch him. I fully understand the average 25 years old fanboys of IOTA believe you can run a business by hiding  behind a proxy in your momma basement, but please note the business plan is to challenge Intel, TI and Samsung which requires more than the momma basement logistic of a typical Bitcointalk P&D scam, which IOTA/JINN is.
Anyway, you and me we both know there is no revolutionary microprocessor nor IoT business, but even if it would be the location and age makes absolutely unrealistic the whole business.

ROI means king in French