Topic: [IPO] CoinPal - Crypto-Currency Exchange & Profit Switching Mining Pool {NEW} - page 13. (Read 79978 times)

Yes, I admit that I originally thought that this was a scam, but mainly because of the extreme confusion around the whole Ryan G / Ryan M / who's working for CoinPal / who's running it / who owns what shares / WTF is that logo issues at the beginning of this thread.  You have to admit, it was a real minefield to navigate!  However, in my defence, I then stepped back and GOT HARD EVIDENCE, which in fact, showed that Ryan M was legit, and then I told everyone about it.  So to say that I don't care about anyone else is entirely inaccurate.

I will definitely share any relevant information I have that I think would help shareholders here, however, so far I haven't learned anything more from my emails with Ryan G than has already been posted in this thread.  What he tells me he pretty much always puts up as an annoucement.

Oh, and bye badpeanut  

I agree no one deserve to get scammed, but if you have follow the thread SamboNZ also screamed SCAM from the start. And he also said he want RyanG come to this thread and do the explanation, no showing is guilty he said. Well so far RyanG hasnt come here and Sambonz now defending him while me and the rest trying to get our money back. If Sambonz knows something and we dont tru his emails with ryang he should share it. Rather say stuff like "As for communication with Ryan G, I have exchanged a number of emails with him over the last few weeks, including one today.  If people with concerns actually asked him nicely what the story is, then maybe you would get the same responsiveness that I have received"
That pretty tilts me, so he does deserve to get scammed saying that. Guys like him only want to save his own ass and not help others. When i said i was willing to give my shares away to help get our funds back and i really meant it. I have put so many hours for this thread just because i wanted justice. But if he or more people doesnt appreciate my contribution to this thread then i will stop posten and keep what i know for myself.
As for today Ryang has not come to explain or show any proof what has done with our money and he will probably never comes here. NO SHOW IS GUILTY, right sambonz? Im out, no more post from me here

BadPeanut, in know way did I say I no longer think this isn't a scam.  For me, the jury is still out on that one.  I sincerely hope you don't actually have the philosophy that if a person is stupid with an investment or three that they "deserve" to be parted with their money.  There is an extremely remote chance that bitcoin might not even survive the year or that it's price may drop down to who knows where, does this mean that everybody who invested in bitcoin and lost got what they deserved?  That just seems far too harsh a perspective to me.  How about old folks that get bilked into these mail-order fraud schemes?  Are you the type a guy that thinks they deserve to be conned as well?  Or the woman who takes her car to the mechanics and get's seriously overcharged for one reason or another?  Hell, why not the little fella that wasn't strong enough to fight off the bully that took his lunch money?

Obviously I'm comparing apples and kiwi's here in a sense but the bottom line is nobody "deserves" to be scammed.

*In regards to coinpal, it will be interesting to see what Ryan G does now that the trade block has been lifted.

The trade block on Coinpal on Cryptostocks has been lifted.

Sorry to say this but you deserve to get scammed. Ryan was ignoring tons of emails and only reply to those are behind him, like you do. If you still think till today this guy might be legit then you love your Coinpal shares to much.
Why dont you email him ask for proof with the first developer that made the 1st exchange that had flaws. Ask him to show proof. You think its ok to raise 151 btc and come up with an exchange that is worth less then 1 btc? Are you kidding me that you still believe its not a scam? Its fraude man

If we look back at 20th april. Launch date was posponed from 18th to 26th april. During that time from 20th april till 1 may he went missing. No dividend was paid, no reply on emails whatsever, no announcement on cryptostocks. But this thread was heavy under attack with speculation and he was just act normal on his other account. See the posting under with profile "Winterparker" How thickskinned are you to ignore the major of shareholders and act like nothing has happen? Guy has no conscience at all and do you expect this isnt a scam? Wake up man!

SamboNZ raises some really good points.  I know that I have certainly been guilty of assuming the worst without having actual knowledge of anything sinister going on in the past and perhaps my conclusion that I wouldn't see any return on my investment in CoinPal was indeed premature.  I did receive an e-mail from Ryan myself and he did seem fairly upset (judging by the tone of the e-mail) regarding all the scam accusations, now if he is indeed playing this completely on the level I for one can understand where he's coming from, but the truth is only time will tell ultimately.

So hold on, by the looks of what I read in that thread, he offered the miner's for sale, then for whatever reason refunded anyone who had given him funds.  Where's the scam!?  You think he did this just to get a cheaper price!?  That seems like a pretty risky thing to pull just for a discount.

At the end of the day this is your usual speculation and assumptions; YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED or the circumstances around it, so you are not qualified to comment.

Again, it is a bad look, no doubt, but it doesn't actually PROVE anything!

As for communication with Ryan G, I have exchanged a number of emails with him over the last few weeks, including one today.  If people with concerns actually asked him nicely what the story is, then maybe you would get the same responsiveness that I have received.  But I guess some people have already passed judgement on him, proof or no proof, so I'm not quite sure why I'm wasting my time with this!

Again, I suggest that if those who think this is a scam would be courteous enough to put up a poll somewhere so that we can see the overall view of ALL shareholders, then maybe we can form some kind of consensus what to do about it.  Again, the actions of the few are jeopardizing the investments of the rest of us without us having a say in what's happening!  Come on guys, you may have good intentions, but you're potentially hurting the innocent bystanders here!

If there was a way to sabotage a legitimate exchange, then this would be the best possible way to do it.  Is it definitely legit?  I don't know yet.  But is it definitely a scam?  I don't know that yet either.  Keep gathering the facts and maybe we'll find that magic bullet the proves it either way beyond all doubt, but for the sake of everyone, please don't fire the gun before we all agree that that is the best way forward for everyone.

Thanks for the compliment!  But we still waiting for your friend Ryan to show up here to clear some things out.

Hiding behind that announcement over at cryptostocks doesn't make the situation better.

Who lives with spongebob 

You guys are all a bunch of dipshits. You hire some assclown who wont even identify himself and says he lives with spongebob square pants. I cant believe this is real life...what a fucking joke.

Youre a fucking loser. You have no fucking shares and yet you spend your whole life on this thread. That is pretty much the definition of a loser.

Wrong dipshit...Milligan offered to pay for it, but Ryan insisted and paid for it himself.

I had over 10% of the investors sign the page in the first 5 hours lol

"I have spent most of my savings, neglected my friends & family, and for what this??"

That is some serious fund mismanagement, raised 150BTC, buys a 1 btc script and somehow had to dig into savings.

Oh, and neglected family to install a script. Hmmm... Colour me skeptical.

Lol. The story continues.

https://cryptostocks.com/announcements/2613

Great job RiverboatBTC and Badpeanut in fishing out WinterParker.

lol, Americanbit is a loser. Blocked him a long time ago.

Excellent work! And it's undoubtedly him considering WinterParker's profile states he's located in Winter Park just like Ryan G.

I'd sure love to hear Kenta's and SambaNZ's thoughts now. 

Lol AmericanBit is a riot,

He used others funds to put in the order at a cheaper price and reserve them. When he had to coins he just refunded them all.

What does that accomplish, faster shipping, cheaper price... great con.


Boom that was easy.

Everyone be sure to leave negative feedback on his profile
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/winterparker-134259