Topic: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings - page 103. (Read 658701 times)

cryptocyprus/TAT you should highlight LMB-holdings information on the front page. Apparently some people don't know they can buy shares direct rather than overpay on HL. Or how about moving million shares back to HL?

No I didn't. But I don't have an account on the site nor I know if the numbers there are up to date. Thanks anyway.

Those are the amount of shares still available to buy from www.lmb-holdings.com on the original IPO share price of 0.003 BTC per share. Did you missed the November 7th, 2013 announcement: "4. Profit-shares purchased directly from NEOBEE at the original share price of 0.003btc per share, with no added transaction fees. Each purchase of new profit-shares will be allowed one free transfer to any exchange NEOBEE is officially traded on. This free transfer will be limited to the quantity of profit-shares purchased directly.".

Where does the 2.8 mln number comes from? An honest question, I just want to know it.

Wait until the 2.8 million shares sell before you start beating your chest gorillaboy. Now go put your head back in the sand and pray your investment is OK.

Looks like the troll-FUDfest isn't going that well: the share price just keeps 'tanking'

I wish all the professional-doom-trolls would either put-up or shut-up: if this is such a bad opportunity, why don't you sell your shares and take a hike.  Leave the rest of us in peace.

U can't even spellink "retarded" right
FTFY

The decline in ActM share price was slow and retracted.  This occurred weeks and months after the Advisory Board resigned.  Dear troll crumbs, we've told you not to go outside, so just come home to ActM, we've run your bath for you.

@ffssixtynine:  As i remember it, you and lewicki were *both* Active Mining "Advisory Board"?  And then the whole bunch of you "resigned" just before the Active Mining price hit rock bottom.  Did you advise anyone there to get out, or was getting out yourself good 'nuff?
Weird sense of deja vu here...

Re your "neo investor hat":  I liek ur new hat, but it look just like the one you modeled for Active Mining Ken

Farewell punkkate! 

Pinky promise I do know a bit more about WeEx but that was pre Neo involvement. I had already been investigating it as I have funds stuck. I'm bound by the law too, and I have to trust Neo are a good bet to find a solution. If I ever feel people are being mislead, I'll be saying so. Thus far, everything tallies with my knowledge, and my only interest is everyone having their funds.

I did get to discuss Neo with Danny in person and I'm very impressed. I wasn't an investor initially as I wanted time to research them. For those who have concerns, I would reiterate that Danny is highly approachable, although he has limited time and it's always best to treat people they way you expect to be treated - with respect; that doesn't always happen on this forum.

I think the weexchange issue - this is not bitfunder to be clear - is complex in terms of information. No information brings problems, partial information brings problems, and full information isn't possible. Therefore one would presume that Neo have balanced the pros and cons and overall believe what they are doing to be worth the effort if they can help Ukyo fix his issues. I think everyone was well aware of the sort of issues that would occur on this forum from some users.

With my neo investor hat on, I think the worry is unnecessary. I do understand it though. It comes from too many previous problems, such as with labcoin. The thing about neo is how open they are. There are major people involved, they are known at the political level, within the education system, they have highly creditable legal and accounting people involved, now we hear about zip zap, and so on. You can go visit them if you want, which crumbs somehow turns into a bad thing (for the lols, as always)! For anyone with any vaguely significant investment, it costs nothing to travel over to Cyprus for a day from Europe. Not to see one guy, not an empty office, but a sizable operation by all accounts. And if that isn't enough, then nothing is. N_S did that exact visit and seems pretty happy.

Hope all that makes sense Thanks for a good post too.

You're trying too hard. You'd be a lot more effective if you didn't digress into hyperbole so much.

What if the just ruled this Friday/Saturday morning that Ukyo isn't allowed to give us the funds?

I'm sure it would have been a bad move to say something like "The coins might be lost but we don't really know it yet."

Here's what I'm having trouble reconciling in my head. Ffssixtynine, you've insinuated several times that you've been granted some degree of insider knowledge about the situation (or am I just misreading you?). But at the same time, Danny has also made abundantly clear that he would be in some kind of dire legal jeopardy if he spills the beans on the situation. Did you have to sign something too, Ffssixtynine? Or just pinky promise?  

Not trying to be hostile here, just a bit confused by everything.

I am going to have to remain agnostic on whether or not NB involvement with Weex/BF/ukyo was a good idea or not until such time that more information is granted to shareholders. But I do think some people are completely losing their shit over NB involvement for no good reason. Worst case scenario, the NB team gives it some effort but ultimately fails to rectify the situation. Nothing's really lost except some man-hours. Best case scenario, people get their coins back, NB saves the day, Ukyo's out of hot water, the reputation of the bitcoin sector saves face, it's a huge win-win. Well, everyone wins except the lawyers that is. I think it's quite likely that the possible gains far outweigh the cost (in man-hours) of getting involved. Either way though, the NB team will be able to cut their teeth on a real crisis management situation (whether that be a technological crisis or a legal one or some combination thereof). If NB is to become a huge player in the bitcoin sector, I think they're gaining some serious XP by trying to deal with this situation. And they will be able to learn from Ukyo's mistakes.

That being said, although most of the NB news coming out on this thread (Univ. of Nicosia, Zipzap partnership, investor show, etc.) have been very positive and Danny + team have done an awesome job with all that, I don't think the BF situation news has been going all that well. The information so far has been vague, and promises of more detailed information have remained largely unfulfilled. This has only fueled rampant speculation which has led to uncertainty and consternation amongst investors. The updates we have gotten just seem to raise more questions than they answer. If it's not possible to tell us what the situation is, is it at least permissible to clearly state some things that the situation is not, in order to allay some fears?

You are trying very hard to make it seem like the situation isn't complete bullshit but it gets worse with every new "update" if you can even call it that.

Funny how most the information we have needed to be pried from ukyo/cryptocyprus.  Why exactly can they legally tell us now that the coins simply are gone and not 1 month ago? My guess is that the "legal reasons" are bullshit and ukyo just wants to cover his ass long enough to escape this mess unscathed.

Just tell us what happened. Stop playing games and teasing us with empty updates. No point trying to have a "discussion" on the matter when we literally have no idea what is going on and likely will not until it is decided by the "entities"

If Danny is not legally allowed to discuss the situation, why did he bring it up in the first place?
The only reasonable explanation that comes to my mind is it's a stall tactic -- to prevent people from starting legal action before the trail gets cold.  Thus far it worked pretty nice -- Ukyo's hanging with Danny in Cyprus.
Got an alternative one?

*An important part of being a cheerleeder is knowing the right time to quit.

Vela's ok, it's just that neo have said what they are allowed to legally according to Danny. Similarly, they have said what is reasonable about their overall operations.

So if vela doesn't like the situation, he can keep asking questions which can't be answered, he can walk away, he can trust neo, or he can research neo further as far as his abilities allow - including contacting the CEO directly.

I really don't understand why people are bashing velacreations, his requests for more transparency seem more than appropriate to me, especially given the situation.

Also, why did Danny say anything at all about this issue? If he knew he wouldn't be able to provide real details he should've waited for it to be solved, and leave Ukyo at managing the PRs of this mess, it would have been much better for Neo.

Vela, you should do whatever you feel comfortable doing. If you're troubled, you can speak direct to Danny.

Wasn't he one of the self-appointed Active Mining board members?  I remember him doing "so long and thanks for all the fish" there too.  Shortly after, the stock tanked