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Topic: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings - page 104. (Read 658701 times)

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I'm sorry to those people who actually want serious discussion but it's pointless trying to do that here and I have better things to do.
Didn't you just tell me to stop asking questions or sell my shares?
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So, most of the people prefer keep the money at home instead of using banks because of government restrictions, that's what I understood from the translation. Surely this business is going to be a good solution to this problem if it comes to existence as it is planned and people understand it.

If bitcoin has a chance anywhere in the world at the moment, Cyprus is its best shot. Wish I could be on the ground when this hopefully starts gathering steam.

Would be glad also if you give a word on the announcement supposed to be given on Friday, that changed to Saturday while we are currently on Sunday.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3863522

Except from the "new" obvious information that the bitcoins are gone, no new information. I tought there were going to be information regarding what happened, what is being done, and the most important, numbers.

There will also be the distribution of the Bitcoins that are available to people by this coming Friday.

Hi, thanks for all your effort with sorting this out. I'm just wondering if this distribution will include ukyo.loan?
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So we're now seeing the trolls out in force trying to force the share price/entertainment (pankkake is a professional troll account for those who don't know, crumbs everyone must know by now). It was just a matter of time.

I'm going to leave you guys to it. I'm sorry to those people who actually want serious discussion but it's pointless trying to do that here and I have better things to do.

So long and thanks for all the fish!


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Finally, not everyone can fly out to Cyprus -- some have jobs, some don't have the money.

As a man of extreme leisure, you surely have both the time and money to fly to Cyprus for a short fact-finding mission?  Roll Eyes
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The very concept being to limit access.
well, you've certainly succeeded at limiting access.  Only MP and his cross dressing alter ego, MPOE-PR, trade there.  So that was your goal all along?  Get it down to just one trader?

I might also ask, why are you in this thread?  NeoBee isn't listed on MPEx.  Are you trading on Havelock, now?
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and no one uses it! Smiley

No one poor. No one stupid. The very concept being to limit access.
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@ffssixtynine:  What do you think the purpose of this thread is, to see who could cheer the loudest?
Let me point out the obvious:  Difficult questions would never be answered if not answering them is made an option.
Repeating the question is a reasonable first step to take before filing a lawsuit per N_S' suggestion.

Finally, not everyone can fly out to Cyprus -- some have jobs, some don't have the money.  N&B did not suggest that flying to Cyprus would be expected from their shareholders.  Your suggesting otherwise is simply insulting.
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It already exists. It's called MPEx.

and no one uses it! Smiley
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I am starting to wonder if perhaps the idea of accredited investors isn't a bad thing.

I would really welcome this. It adds legitimacy and professionalism to a sector of bitcoin that is devoid of it.

It already exists. It's called MPEx.
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I am starting to wonder if perhaps the idea of accredited investors isn't a bad thing.

I would really welcome this. It adds legitimacy and professionalism to a sector of bitcoin that is devoid of it.

Does "ForFucksSake69" in his infinite wisdom believe that accredited investors don't ask questions? Many of them are more relentless than most of the "trolls" here. It's very likely Neo&Bee would have never got off the ground had it relied on accredited investors alone or VCs.
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I am starting to wonder if perhaps the idea of accredited investors isn't a bad thing.

I would really welcome this. It adds legitimacy and professionalism to a sector of bitcoin that is devoid of it.

Unfortunately, many of the things we might naturally rail against, such as the concept of an Accredited Investor (WTF? The government will tell me how I can invest my money?!) have evolved because a) scammers like to scam, b) bad investors spawn regret by the litre and c) the government. Really, at this point, it isn't clear how we should proceed.   Cheesy
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Is this the best location to get investor updates on Neo & Bee? I'm not seeing much recent info in the "News" section of the LMB Holdings website...

This is the place. You can also check https://www.lmb-holdings.com/index.php/news/ , however it's not as up to date.
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I am starting to wonder if perhaps the idea of accredited investors isn't a bad thing.

I would really welcome this. It adds legitimacy and professionalism to a sector of bitcoin that is devoid of it.
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I can't wait until we have a place to talk about serious topics where trolls are banned forthwith.
define "trolls"  Someone that asks questions about the operation?

Back when the Labcon scam was unfolding, the people asking questions were put in a master ignore list (I was one on that list) and passed around to newbies.  shortly thereafter, the "trolls" turned out to be right, and those passing around that list were profiting from unknowing newbies.  So, be careful about throwing around that "troll" label.

If this operation is so delicate that people asking for clarification, transparency, and information will ruin it, then it doesn't have business taking people's money in the first place.

Vela, if you don't have faith in what Danny is doing then sell your shares. If you and a few others aren't happy with progress or with communication, that's fine. It's your right to think that and neo's right to proceed as they believe best befits the business. You could also actually go to Cyprus and see for yourself. I don't think you have much idea whatsoever what or who you have invested in. That's a shame because neo are doing incredible things.
First of all, don't tell me what to do.  I can handle my own investments, thanks very much.  I have yet to see evidence that you can handle yours.

Secondly, I don't put faith in things that I know nothing about. This isn't religion, this is investing. I don't know what Danny is doing, because he has failed to disclose that information to shareholders (despite saying he would).  Blind faith in something with no information is not investing.

Thirdly, I'm not happy with broken promises.  That hurts Neo's reputation and my investment.  I ask Danny to either fulfill his promises or don't make them.  I assume most shareholders agree with me on this.  If they don't, then it's fair to question their motivation.

perhaps Danny is telling the truth with everything he has said.
  And what, exactly, has he said?  He hasn't said anything, so sure, if you don't say anything, we can assume he's telling the truth.

But, he did say he would give details of the Neo/BF deal last Friday, and he didn't. 

do proper research yourself
  We're trying.  We're asking the only man that has the information to reveal it.

The only thing most people don't know is the full weexchange story, so either you trust neo on that or you don't. If you don't, it's time to divest your shares or take a wait and see approach.
Another bullshit false choice.  "stop asking questions and get in line". You know, I've heard those exact same arguments in every single bitcoin scam to date.

Again, you guys should not fear more information and more transparency.

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I can't wait until we have a place to talk about serious topics where trolls are banned forthwith.

Vela, if you don't have faith in what Danny is doing then sell your shares. If you and a few others aren't happy with progress or with communication, that's fine. It's your right to think that and neo's right to proceed as they believe best befits the business. You could also actually go to Cyprus and see for yourself. I don't think you have much idea whatsoever what or who you have invested in. That's a shame because neo are doing incredible things.

The idea that neo would be doing something with Ukyo if they had reason to believe he was a scammer is absolutely ridiculous if you take the time out to explore their business, a business which will welcome you in person as they have done others. It would make no sense. Since it would make no sense, it's extremely unlikely to be the case and just perhaps Danny is telling the truth with everything he has said.

I am starting to wonder if perhaps the idea of accredited investors isn't a bad thing. Too many people are showing exactly why they shouldn't be investing. Seeing n_s being attacked for actually having taken the time to see what he has invested in really takes the cake. Multiple people have met Danny and more of us plan Cyprus trips. So if you're doubtful, walk away, do proper research yourself, or trust Danny and others.

Paranoid conspiracy theories have no place here because you can do all of this yourself. The only thing most people don't know is the full weexchange story, so either you trust neo on that or you don't. If you don't, it's time to divest your shares or take a wait and see approach.

Great words of wisdom coming from a user named "ForFucksSake69". You're clearly clueless on so many levels that it hurts. I didn't say "Ukyo" was a scammer but a "potential scammer" and Neo's involvement with him COULD be damaging, especially with affiliated twats like you doing piss poor damage control to put it methaporically.

You've claimed Danny shared with you his involvement with Ukyo. Why can't he share it publicly with us also, since we're shareholders with equal rights.
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I can't wait until we have a place to talk about serious topics where trolls are banned forthwith.

Vela, if you don't have faith in what Danny is doing then sell your shares. If you and a few others aren't happy with progress or with communication, that's fine. It's your right to think that and neo's right to proceed as they believe best befits the business. You could also actually go to Cyprus and see for yourself. I don't think you have much idea whatsoever what or who you have invested in. That's a shame because neo are doing incredible things.

The idea that neo would be doing something with Ukyo if they had reason to believe he was a scammer is absolutely ridiculous if you take the time out to explore their business, a business which will welcome you in person as they have done others. It would make no sense. Since it would make no sense, it's extremely unlikely to be the case and just perhaps Danny is telling the truth with everything he has said.

I am starting to wonder if perhaps the idea of accredited investors isn't a bad thing. Too many people are showing exactly why they shouldn't be investing. Seeing n_s being attacked for actually having taken the time to see what he has invested in really takes the cake. Multiple people have met Danny and more of us plan Cyprus trips. So if you're doubtful, walk away, do proper research yourself, or trust Danny and others.

Paranoid conspiracy theories have no place here because you can do all of this yourself. The only thing most people don't know is the full weexchange story, so either you trust neo on that or you don't. If you don't, it's time to divest your shares or take a wait and see approach.
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Once again, I'm not saying people shouldn't be upset. They should be. As such, do what you feel is best. It's as simple as that.

People feel that it is best to voice their concerns in this thread, it's as simple as that.  You, OTOH, seem to be saying that their only option is to fully divest and involve the authorities.  That's simply awful PR, especially if someone takes your bait.

Fair enough. So you voice your concerns and don't like the answer you receive. Now what?

I tell you that your posts are provoking people to escalate this mess by involving authorities, and you ask "now what"?
If that's what you are genuinely looking for -- legal cases brought against your friends... i guess nothing, keep doing what you do.


If he's trying to get people to dump shares (so he could buy cheap?) perhaps Neo&bee should reconsider their involvement with this N_S guy. It's obviously damaging to the image and won't help with selling the remaining shares.

Since we're on this topic; N_S, would you care to disclose what your involvement is in Neo&bee other than as shareholder? Danny went on "Let's talk Bitcoin" show with some other guy, business partner. Are you that guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ln0dwxuPcc Are you Micheal Hill, Danny Brewster's partner?

No to the above. I am a shareholder like many of you. Simple as that. If you think think I'm officially involved, I'm not sure what to tell you.
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Once again, I'm not saying people shouldn't be upset. They should be. As such, do what you feel is best. It's as simple as that.

People feel that it is best to voice their concerns in this thread, it's as simple as that.  You, OTOH, seem to be saying that their only option is to fully divest and involve the authorities.  That's simply awful PR, especially if someone takes your bait.

Fair enough. So you voice your concerns and don't like the answer you receive. Now what?

I tell you that your posts are provoking people to escalate this mess by involving authorities, and you ask "now what"?
If that's what you are genuinely looking for -- legal cases brought against your friends... i guess nothing, keep doing what you do.


If he's trying to get people to dump shares (so he could buy cheap?) perhaps Neo&bee should reconsider their involvement with this N_S guy. It's obviously damaging to the image and won't help with selling the remaining shares.

Since we're on this topic; N_S, would you care to disclose what your involvement is in Neo&bee other than as shareholder? Danny went on "Let's talk Bitcoin" show with some other guy, business partner. Are you that guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ln0dwxuPcc Are you Micheal Hill, Danny Brewster's partner?
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...Neo & Bee are trying to get funds back...

For who? For TATi? I am curious if NEOBEE would be involved in this mess without shitload of TATi's personal BTCs lost on exchange.

Anyway ... NEOBEE is un-capable to break cryptography, if BTCs are gone, they are gone. Period. If NEOBEE wants to bailout Ukyo, I am out.

 Roll Eyes
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You can! No one has said otherwise. Ask questions till you're blue in the face. My personal gripe with this is that when those questions are answered in a way you don't like, why do you keep asking or demanding some different answer. The answer we have is the answer we have. I just don't see the point in yelling about it.
I keep asking because my questions HAVEN'T been answered.  We don't have an answer, so it's ridiculous to act like we do.

no details = no details
It's not really a gray area.

A promise was made to provide answers, but that date has passed, and we still don't have any answers. 

Again, I expect Danny to keep his promises and meet his deadlines.  Do we even have a reason why he hasn't been able to do so?  He's posted on the forum a few times since then, so he's obviously got the time.
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