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Topic: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings - page 46. (Read 658781 times)

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Lazy, cynical and insolent since 1968

P.S. For a company that would launch a "payment network to compete the current credit cards and money transmission businesses", your website is not that impressive (to say it very very politely)! You have to make a significant upgrade.



This is one of the main reasons why I decided not to invest. I do not have much confidence in a company who are trying to build a revolutionary new payment system based on cryptocurrency when their website is not only broken, but also looks like it came straight out of 1995. It makes me  question the level of technical expertise they have working for them.

TAT, this member has three coins below his/her name. Do you care now? Instead of taking comments as offensive and ignore them you could look at them from a constructive point of view. We are investors and as such want the best for our investment. More than that, many here believe Neo can be a game changer for bitcoin and this is a strong reason to invest into it, at least for me.

Note: there is a large difference between the trolls and the constructive manner of the investors/commenters in this thread when commenting. I hope you look more into that difference than the amount of coins below our name.

I fail to see what the issue is with the website; you can't please all the people all the time and as usual there are some dissenting voices here who always seems to know better. 

Perhaps if you are such experts you could make a list of the specific issues (ie rather than opinion) and what you think the solution should be. 

You should also keep in mind Neo's current market - so, I'm presuming you will have done lots of market research with regard to Cypriot values, attitudes and behaviours? 

With regard to the 1995 comment - you weren't around in 1995, if you think that is what websites looked like then (think tables and static images).
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P.S. For a company that would launch a "payment network to compete the current credit cards and money transmission businesses", your website is not that impressive (to say it very very politely)! You have to make a significant upgrade.



This is one of the main reasons why I decided not to invest. I do not have much confidence in a company who are trying to build a revolutionary new payment system based on cryptocurrency when their website is not only broken, but also looks like it came straight out of 1995. It makes me  question the level of technical expertise they have working for them.

TAT, this member has three coins below his/her name. Do you care now? Instead of taking comments as offensive and ignore them you could look at them from a constructive point of view. We are investors and as such want the best for our investment. More than that, many here believe Neo can be a game changer for bitcoin and this is a strong reason to invest into it, at least for me.

Note: there is a large difference between the trolls and the constructive manner of the investors/commenters in this thread when commenting. I hope you look more into that difference than the amount of coins below our name.

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Activity: 196
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P.S. For a company that would launch a "payment network to compete the current credit cards and money transmission businesses", your website is not that impressive (to say it very very politely)! You have to make a significant upgrade.



This is one of the main reasons why I decided not to invest. I do not have much confidence in a company who are trying to build a revolutionary new payment system based on cryptocurrency when their website is not only broken, but also looks like it came straight out of 1995. It makes me  question the level of technical expertise they have working for them.
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Hello Danny, Neo team. I know you just opened the first brunch but, how is the expansion going? I found this article ("Cue The Bit-Peso – Unbanked And Potentially Bitcoined" http://bitcoinmagazine.com/10769/cue-bit-peso-unbanked-potentially-bitcoined/) and made me think that there are great possibilities for the unbanked with Neo. With the infrastructure it is creating can really gain that market with some advantage. Remittance can also be a great deal. I am sure you have thought about this, is just that I feel bitcoin is moving so fast that, even though you said the cake is too big, fast movement is required. I am not an entrepreneur neither know of business strategy, is just a feeling. Are you hiring new people to look for those possibilities? I think this wouldn’t be a bad investment. I am aware there is Neo & Bee Kenya. Latin America and Asia will be worth looking into too.
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If you've got 1 coin under your username, no one is listening. You can thank bitcointalk for that.

I agree +1

I got into bitcoin recently and always supported Neo (can read my last posts not only here but all in bitcointalk. that will give you a better idea than the 1 coin below the name, no?). If this is the welcome from senior or early adopters you are not really supporting more in.

Edit: At least two Neo investors knew about it after I introduced them to it.
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If you've got 1 coin under your username, no one is listening. You can thank bitcointalk for that.

I agree +1
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Suggestions to Danny & Neo-Bee for the unsold shares:

1. You must firstly do what a serious listed company does after an IPO: issue an official announcement about how many shares were sold, the funds raised, how many are outstanding and confirm that you will not be selling any of these shares "privately".

2. These shares now have a significant valuation i.e. if, say, the number of shares is 4.5m, their valuation is 4.5m * 0.0056 BTC * $560 = around $14m!

3. Consider using these shares to make an acquisition(s) (if needed).

4. Consider selling to a strategic investor (if one is needed) at a small discount to the market price.

5. Consider rewarding some of your key employees, executives, key business associates.

6. Consider making a second round IPO at a price higher than the current market price.

P.S. For a company that would launch a "payment network to compete the current credit cards and money transmission businesses", your website is not that impressive (to say it very very politely)! You have to make a significant upgrade.


+1 and agree much with the website is not impressive part
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All this downtime at havelock is not giving me any confidence in the place...
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+1 on the website fixes

I understand that sometimes you need to get a website up and quickly but it is also very easy to make it look better. For example, the typography is amateur - particularly on the Business Services section where every plain text is made bold.

Was the website designed by Pittas & Valerkos Software Ltd? If it is, it would explain a lot.
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I think there needs to be a little bit of clarity here, when the IPO initially came around the price of BTC was approximately, $120 per BTC, this equals about 36 cents per share at 0.003, given that the company strives off of Bitcoin growth they thought it would grow somewhat substantially by the end of their IPO but not to $500-1000 in a matter of a few months.

This means, they anticipated about $0.40-$1.00 per share at the most. Not even counting the 1.1m shares sold privately or the 0.002 round. Being extremely generous, $3-5m was expected. If they surpassed that goal of funding and have leftover shares why does it matter in the slightest? We can rest assured that any future shares will be at a reduced profit ratio, and we will be getting our 0.0035btc/share anyways.
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Suggestions to Danny & Neo-Bee for the unsold shares:

1. You must firstly do what a serious listed company does after an IPO: issue an official announcement about how many shares were sold, the funds raised, how many are outstanding and confirm that you will not be selling any of these shares "privately".

2. These shares now have a significant valuation i.e. if, say, the number of shares is 4.5m, their valuation is 4.5m * 0.0056 BTC * $560 = around $14m!

3. Consider using these shares to make an acquisition(s) (if needed).

4. Consider selling to a strategic investor (if one is needed) at a small discount to the market price.

5. Consider rewarding some of your key employees, executives, key business associates.

6. Consider making a second round IPO at a price higher than the current market price.

P.S. For a company that would launch a "payment network to compete the current credit cards and money transmission businesses", your website is not that impressive (to say it very very politely)! You have to make a significant upgrade.



+1
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^A Cypriot bank involving Bitcoin?  A currency that eliminated the need for banks?  Also known for many "bank-like" schemes -- all vanishing under curious circumstances?
Stop worrying, everything'll be fine.
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"i expected for a website to be usable in the very last seconds for my arbitrage to be super profitable, i failed and i blame someone else."

"i tried to create an account along with another 500 people in the very last seconds of the IPO, so it is no my greedy ass at fault, it is the webmaster, the devs and every other site visitor except my greedy ass"

Try last WEEK, not last seconds. And even if it was last seconds, that's the excuse?  They couldn't keep email verification up because 6 guys visited at the same time?  Come on!

I hope 6 people don't use the Bee payment system at the same time, cause it won't work!  And what happens when a merchant has a rush or a sale?  If they can't handle the miniscule rush of people buying shares the last week of their IPO, how the hell are they going to handle a major merchant's rollout?

Stop blaming customers because a company's products don't work.  Same ol' backyard bitcoin bullshit.  You know how professionals address a problem like this?  They take responsibility and fix it.  They don't blame the customer, ignore the complaints, and act like nothing happened.

"it's your fault their website didn't work when you went to purchase a product"

"don't worry, our payment system will work for our merchants, it just doesn't work for us"

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If you've got 1 coin under your username, no one is listening. You can thank bitcointalk for that.
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P.S. For a company that would launch a "payment network to compete the current credit cards and money transmission businesses", your website is not that impressive (to say it very very politely)! You have to make a significant upgrade.



I agree completely.

The website is extremely disappointing. Even the font sucks! Seriously, this is the first thing most people will see if they get curious about Neo, not the AMAZING brick & mortar branch. It's got to get an upgrade ASAP
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too much bs talk here not enough neobee talk.
^This.

"i expected for a website to be usable in the very last seconds for my arbitrage to be super profitable, i failed and i blame someone else."

"i tried to create an account along with another 500 people in the very last seconds of the IPO, so it is no my greedy ass at fault, it is the webmaster, the devs and every other site visitor except my greedy ass"

"Number of outstanding shares is not clearly enough stated in TWO websites, so i just spread FUD in the thread, hoping that others will quickly sell"

ITT butthurts whining that missed a 6-month window IPO, and could not play on the last second, for massive greedy profits.
As if LMB was the only way, to get them on time or the last resort. I made an account there two months ago, and i made one on havelock too.
I had no problems whatsoever, i was logging in on the last day, when all these trolls could not.

As if the LMB/NEO people are at fault because some wannabe sharks lost a good bite in the last moments Grin
You whiners suck. Get over it, and go start a flame thread to cry on this.

I already printed these first 150+ pages and am making a frame for them. I will be here in a few years with everyone else who's in for the long run, laughing at this.
I bought my shares on both sites. I could stay only on LMB, but the more shares i buy from havelock, the less shares butthurt sharks have to play with.
I would advise anyone who wants to be serious to do the same. Buy them out of the sharks hands. Let them eat their flesh, while Neo takes us to the moon.

To the moon? Nope! This is only the beginning.
2.000 Light Years From Home i'd say.
Neo is the future, here, today.




Great points, honestly I bought some the day before the IPO ended one havelock at about .0033 and I've bought all the way up to .004, if you really wanted some shares you had that opportunity, and no one knows whats happening with the unsold shares yet so stop speculating.  Its been less than a week since the IPO so we should just give them some time to respond.
newbie
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Suggestions to Danny & Neo-Bee for the unsold shares:

1. You must firstly do what a serious listed company does after an IPO: issue an official announcement about how many shares were sold, the funds raised, how many are outstanding and confirm that you will not be selling any of these shares "privately".

2. These shares now have a significant valuation i.e. if, say, the number of shares is 4.5m, their valuation is 4.5m * 0.0056 BTC * $560 = around $14m!

3. Consider using these shares to make an acquisition(s) (if needed).

4. Consider selling to a strategic investor (if one is needed) at a small discount to the market price.

5. Consider rewarding some of your key employees, executives, key business associates.

6. Consider making a second round IPO at a price higher than the current market price.

P.S. For a company that would launch a "payment network to compete the current credit cards and money transmission businesses", your website is not that impressive (to say it very very politely)! You have to make a significant upgrade.

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Activity: 151
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"Number of outstanding shares is not clearly enough stated in TWO websites, so i just spread FUD in the thread, hoping that others will quickly sell"

Outstanding shares, yup.  The float though - that's what causes the prices to fluctuate.  Especially little things like the possibility that 4 million shares might start leaking out of Havelock or be given away for nothing to a 'friend'.  This could be a wall that never gets eaten up. 

We need clear guidance about what are the plans for the shares left after the IPO.  It's 25% of the authorized.

I'll just gloss over any insinuations anybody has made that I'm spreading FUD and add that fanboy stuff is all well and good and I've done a fair of it myself.  I'd just like a few answers. 
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too much bs talk here not enough neobee talk.
^This.

"i expected for a website to be usable in the very last seconds for my arbitrage to be super profitable, i failed and i blame someone else."

"i tried to create an account along with another 500 people in the very last seconds of the IPO, so it is no my greedy ass at fault, it is the webmaster, the devs and every other site visitor except my greedy ass"

"Number of outstanding shares is not clearly enough stated in TWO websites, so i just spread FUD in the thread, hoping that others will quickly sell"

ITT butthurts whining that missed a 6-month window IPO, and could not play on the last second, for massive greedy profits.
As if LMB was the only way, to get them on time or the last resort. I made an account there two months ago, and i made one on havelock too.
I had no problems whatsoever, i was logging in on the last day, when all these trolls could not.

As if the LMB/NEO people are at fault because some wannabe sharks lost a good bite in the last moments Grin
You whiners suck. Get over it, and go start a flame thread to cry on this.

I already printed these first 150+ pages and am making a frame for them. I will be here in a few years with everyone else who's in for the long run, laughing at this.
I bought my shares on both sites. I could stay only on LMB, but the more shares i buy from havelock, the less shares butthurt sharks have to play with.
I would advise anyone who wants to be serious to do the same. Buy them out of the sharks hands. Let them eat their flesh, while Neo takes us to the moon.

To the moon? Nope! This is only the beginning.
2.000 Light Years From Home i'd say.
Neo is the future, here, today.


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Merit: 509
The LMB website was a quick improvisation due to the exchange issues and not something that represented main focus for Neo.

They have plans for an exchange and we'll probably see a major website overhaul at some point this year.

I would hope they don't start their own exchange. Although impressed with how things are going so far with neo, I was very unimpressed with how the whole bitfunder fiasco was handled. I surely wouldn't put money in an exchange from them if they have proven they cannot handle it.
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