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Topic: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings - page 47. (Read 658701 times)

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The LMB website was a quick improvisation due to the exchange issues and not something that represented main focus for Neo.

They have plans for an exchange and we'll probably see a major website overhaul at some point this year.
See, I expect them to get things together BEFORE they release the product, not after.  At least, that's the way professionals do it. We're talking email verification, not some sort of elaborate exchange system.

I know it wasn't their main focus, that's obvious.  The point is that it deserved more focus than they gave it.  How many bitcoins would it cost to get it working? 1? .5? If they need help, I'm sure one of us could have done it for a few shares.

Wasn't the theme the last update that we're moving away from backyard bitcoin to a professional/mainstream bitcoin?  Not quite there yet.


Yes.  This is why I didn't get the shares until the day before the rollout.  I just didn't believe a site like LMB Holdings would be so crappy and so non-functional if they were developing real online bitcoin products.  (That and my wife kept saying - from watching me lose $$ on pennystocks - that no site would use a graphic - like that ray-traced 'building' - that make them look like they were building a building when they were really leasing a ground floor space.  It's a general rule in the micro-finance world that if a group looks shady, promises too big, makes you think they're something they're not - that they are shady).

I'm very excited to be a part of this now, but still, the 4 million shares outstanding and a failed IPO and not a single word about the future of those shares - 25% of all the shares.  

BTW, I'd like to suggest that Neo just withdraw the shares and do a secondary offering later this year or when the prices are much higher.  A couple of big players buy up the shares and next year those 4 million shares will quietly disappear and we'll end up with a lot of cash to play with.  Acquisitions?  

Meanwhile the lack of clarity, after almost a week, about how many shares will be trading, is not good.   Every day this is not addressed is a red flag. 
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The LMB website was a quick improvisation due to the exchange issues and not something that represented main focus for Neo.

They have plans for an exchange and we'll probably see a major website overhaul at some point this year.
See, I expect them to get things together BEFORE they release the product, not after.  At least, that's the way professionals do it. We're talking email verification, not some sort of elaborate exchange system.

I know it wasn't their main focus, that's obvious.  The point is that it deserved more focus than they gave it.  How many bitcoins would it cost to get it working? 1? .5? If they need help, I'm sure one of us could have done it for a few shares.

Wasn't the theme the last update that we're moving away from backyard bitcoin to a professional/mainstream bitcoin?  Not quite there yet.
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too much bs talk here not enough neobee talk.

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Too much spam. Time to move discussion on a moderated thread?
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TAT, I might be responsible Sad
In my defense, I thought the sarcasm was obvious...  I even added some fine print at the end to make sure.

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9,600,000 - 5,050,672 = 4,549,328 unsold public shares.
That's almost half of all public shares in the IPO offering.
Have you decided what will happen to the unsold shares?


The shares will be destroyed to benefit existing shareholders you.
I'm totally super srs!


Too late at deleting the post fawn, I saw you saying that just in time. Now we know that Fawn and V2rocket are the same person  Wink
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TAT, I might be responsible Sad
In my defense, I thought the sarcasm was obvious...  I even added some fine print at the end to make sure.

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9,600,000 - 5,050,672 = 4,549,328 unsold public shares.
That's almost half of all public shares in the IPO offering.
Have you decided what will happen to the unsold shares?


The shares will be destroyed to benefit existing shareholders you.
I'm totally super srs!
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No one ever said any shares would be destroyed.
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So here's my question, sorry if it's dumb but, in regards to the privileged IPVO shares who receive all profits until .0035 is paid per share. Is that only if they were bought from the issuer or do all outstanding shares at this point have the privilege to receive all profits? In other words if someone bought shares from havelock they would still own privileged shares correct? And this would be the case until additional shares are offered correct?

I ask because I bought shares at the pre-ipvo, during the ipvo, and after the ipvo closed. Just a little confused

I asked the same a couple of pages before, and It seems that it will be paid to whoever has those shares at the time dividends are thrown; doesn't matter if they were bought on one site or another... they will get those divs. (but I'm not 100% sure)

Yeah it's seems reasonable to me that anyone that owns any of the original 9,600,000 shares (minus what was destroyed) at the time divs are paid would receive the divs. Meaning the existing shares will be more valuable than any shares issued in the future. I'm just looking for confirmation.



edit: my apologies. I scanned through posts too quickly
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So here's my question, sorry if it's dumb but, in regards to the privileged IPVO shares who receive all profits until .0035 is paid per share. Is that only if they were bought from the issuer or do all outstanding shares at this point have the privilege to receive all profits? In other words if someone bought shares from havelock they would still own privileged shares correct? And this would be the case until additional shares are offered correct?

I ask because I bought shares at the pre-ipvo, during the ipvo, and after the ipvo closed. Just a little confused

I asked the same a couple of pages before, and It seems that it will be paid to whoever has those shares at the time dividends are thrown; doesn't matter if they were bought on one site or another... they will get those divs. (but I'm not 100% sure)
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So here's my question, sorry if it's dumb but, in regards to the privileged IPVO shares who receive all profits until .0035 is paid per share. Is that only if they were bought from the issuer or do all outstanding shares at this point have the privilege to receive all profits? In other words if someone bought shares from havelock they would still own privileged shares correct? And this would be the case until additional shares are offered correct?

I ask because I bought shares at the pre-ipvo, during the ipvo, and after the ipvo closed. Just a little confused
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...says someone who was registered April 2013...

this is not my first account here Wink in April 2013 i remember that I was smoking 40cigarets a day on the Gox crash ... now? absolute nothing Cheesy In Bitcoinland we're building some immunity Grin I am here from ~10$/BTC Smiley but I lost a lot BTCs on .onion's scams, and also AM ...

They are supposed to be developing technology to allow merchants to sell products using bitcoin, right?  Well, their site sold shares for bitcoin, but it didn't work.  How is that supposed to look to a potential merchant?  They can't even keep their own site working, but they want us to believe that they can keep up an international payment system up?  

+1, vela, this is also my concern ... they should change web developers asap, because they are doing shitty job. Neobee should learn from Kraken and Andreas.

The LMB website was a quick improvisation due to the exchange issues and not something that represented main focus for Neo.

They have plans for an exchange and we'll probably see a major website overhaul at some point this year.
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...says someone who was registered April 2013...

this is not my first account here Wink in April 2013 i remember that I was smoking 40cigarets a day on the Gox crash ... now? absolute nothing Cheesy In Bitcoinland we're building some immunity Grin I am here from ~10$/BTC Smiley but I lost a lot BTCs on .onion's scams, and also AM ...

They are supposed to be developing technology to allow merchants to sell products using bitcoin, right?  Well, their site sold shares for bitcoin, but it didn't work.  How is that supposed to look to a potential merchant?  They can't even keep their own site working, but they want us to believe that they can keep up an international payment system up?  

+1, vela, this is also my concern ... they should change web developers asap, because they are doing shitty job. Neobee should learn from Kraken and Andreas.
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I lol'd Grin but he has a point! The shares were available for sale for half year at 0.003, if half year isn't enough time for research about NEOBEE than idk Grin We were watching available direct shares all the time and LMB was unable to sell any share for months(!) @ 0.003 ... We had a lot of posts on reddit, coverage in media, posts in this thread etc. Who wanted to buy on the last day, he did it because vision of quick speculation profit, not because support of the company.

oh, I see.  It's the customer's fault that the website doesn't work.

"Sorry folks, you should have been here yesterday when everything was working"

The bottom line is that lmb didn't sell all the shares, and they missed a significant amount of sales because their website did not work.  If they had a working website, they would have sold more shares, simple as that.  Maybe they don't want to sell shares, I don't know, but don't act like it is MY fault because they can't manage a simple email verification system.

They are supposed to be developing technology to allow merchants to sell products using bitcoin, right?  Well, their site sold shares for bitcoin, but it didn't work.  How is that supposed to look to a potential merchant?  They can't even keep their own site working, but they want us to believe that they can keep up an international payment system up? 

Sorry, that just doesn't look professional, and at this point in the game, N&B needs to distinguish themselves as a professional player in this industry.
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www.havelockinvestments.com down again , i love this game. Angry

Working fine here. Guess you're having problems with your ISP.
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www.havelockinvestments.com down again , i love this game. Angry
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I lol'd Grin but he has a point! The shares were available for sale for half year at 0.003, if half year isn't enough time for research about NEOBEE than idk Grin We were watching available direct shares all the time and LMB was unable to sell any share for months(!) @ 0.003 ... We had a lot of posts on reddit, coverage in media, posts in this thread etc. Who wanted to buy on the last day, he did it because vision of quick speculation profit, not because support of the company.

That's a pretty narrow view tbh.

Lots of people bought shares because the actual opening was indisputable proof of a company able to execute on a plan and spoke volumes about quality of the management. The opening event also exceeded all expectations in terms of turnout which is very bullish indicator.

It basically killed all the negative speculations and suspicions many may have had, in a tumultuous Bitcoin stock market. It was a big vote of confidence and inspired many to invest. Not to mention big coverage in a Coindesk article came the day of the launch and also reddit threads and tweets by high profile Bitcoin gurus like Tuur Demester and Erik Vorhees and others.

Contrary to what you've stated, Neo didn't get much publicity outside of Cyprus before this event except a talk on Let's talk bitcoin (when business was in concept stage) and a showing in Miami.
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I lol'd Grin but he has a point! The shares were available for sale for half year at 0.003, if half year isn't enough time for research about NEOBEE than idk Grin We were watching available direct shares all the time and LMB was unable to sell any share for months(!) @ 0.003 ... We had a lot of posts on reddit, coverage in media, posts in this thread etc. Who wanted to buy on the last day, he did it because vision of quick speculation profit, not because support of the company.

...says someone who was registered April 2013. You obviously got into btc to support the technology, not because btc was moonshoting. And you know what they say about simple men being easily amused, right?
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I lol'd Grin but he has a point! The shares were available for sale for half year at 0.003, if half year isn't enough time for research about NEOBEE than idk Grin We were watching available direct shares all the time and LMB was unable to sell any share for months(!) @ 0.003 ... We had a lot of posts on reddit, coverage in media, posts in this thread etc. Who wanted to buy on the last day, he did it because vision of quick speculation profit, not because support of the company.
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Valid point, what e-mail service provider did you use?
my own server.  It's not my email service, support finally contacted me yesterday and approved my email manually.  I checked all spam and associated filters, but I never got the email from the system.  Several others have reported similar experiences.

I'm disappointed, because I wanted to increase my holdings, and I already own what I want on Havelock. So, because of this glitch, they missed out on selling 10K more shares, and I missed out on making a decent chunk of coin.

yo les be honest here

at tha last lil minnit u n every muthahumpa wanna buy-low-sell-high

cept u wasnt prepared cuz ur slow at life

cheap lesson yo, you lucky

quit yo bitchin n actin like u tha victim

you makin all us ur victim with dat bs


o ya, quit wit ur lameass shadow accounts all agreein wit ur crybaby bs

ur act be more transparunt than tha blue veins in ur pastly manboobies

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