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newbie
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September 11, 2016, 04:07:40 AM
Mass with Waves have to maintain cooperative relations, but I want to say, Waves CEO is so bad.
Why? Following your logic it is possible to say that Mass should cooperate with many other projects
So what? That would be great!
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
September 11, 2016, 02:28:01 AM
Mass with Waves have to maintain cooperative relations, but I want to say, Waves CEO is so bad.
Why? Following your logic it is possible to say that Mass should cooperate with many other projects
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1073
September 10, 2016, 12:31:23 PM
@lelele: good find, I didn't come across that one. btw, the cat stopped to piss randomly (though still "serial" is spelled like "cereal" usually)

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ADZCoin is an interesting concept, but if I understand correctly, it is completely different from the one offered here. First of all - the payment direction is just the opposite: in ADZCoin users get 'free' coins from their social media platform, and pay to websites. In Mass coin this is the opposite - websites have to earn the Mass and pay to the users. Secondly - they focus too much on social media platform for earning coins, so ADZCoin is more of a competitor to Steemit (that's why they just posted a 'comparison' in their blog). Reliance to their own social media site will drastically reduce the potential user base of the coin IMHO, not everyone will want to participate in yet another new social media platform.

But well, this is just first impression, it would be interesting to see others views on this.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
September 10, 2016, 08:11:43 AM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-adz-adzcoinadzbuzz-1590365

OP any thoughts ?


u actually contributed nothing to the question. Stop motherfucking around if u don't have answers. Please Please ignore.
Thanks.
I don't want to pollute this thread, so will keep this short. I never answer stupid questions. And yes, I will be happy to ignore your further posts. Take care.
Guys, keep calm. Why are you so nervous?
maybe cat pissed in his serials again.

Few things:
(1) ADZ is yet another "big corporations is evil" plot. Maybe so. But that doesn't work. Even for bitcoin currency yet. Mass is an opportunist, in a political sense. We help big corps.
(2) ADZ plans to REPLACE ads, i.e. put something to where something was replaced. That's stealing. It's not gonna work. Neither for Brave, not for anyone else. Big corps still have guts to put the violators to jail. Mass offers solution to the rightful owners of blocked impressions.
(3) ADZ is a blockchain clone. That's a waste of energy. No blockchain but Bitcoin has proven to be viable. There's NONE! ADZ will join the same dead pool, statistically. Mass doesn't mess with that. Mass uses Bitcoin. 


newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
September 10, 2016, 06:29:21 AM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-adz-adzcoinadzbuzz-1590365

OP any thoughts ?


u actually contributed nothing to the question. Stop motherfucking around if u don't have answers. Please Please ignore.
Thanks.
I don't want to pollute this thread, so will keep this short. I never answer stupid questions. And yes, I will be happy to ignore your further posts. Take care.
Guys, keep calm. Why are you so nervous?
maybe cat pissed in his serials again.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
September 10, 2016, 05:50:41 AM
now ICO Bitcoin total :48~
hero member
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Merit: 1000
September 10, 2016, 04:22:55 AM
Mass with Waves have to maintain cooperative relations, but I want to say, Waves CEO is so bad.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
September 10, 2016, 02:14:38 AM
u actually contributed nothing to the question. Stop motherfucking around if u don't have answers. Please Please ignore.
Thanks.
I don't want to pollute this thread, so will keep this short. I never answer stupid questions. And yes, I will be happy to ignore your further posts. Take care.
Guys, keep calm. Why are you so nervous?
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
September 10, 2016, 01:35:10 AM
@massnetwork:
wanted to ask you a question. As you have investigated the ads market, you should definitely know this: what is the average amount (in bitcoins/satoshies) currently paid for a single ad of average size shown on a page (per view)? What is the range..? I don't talk about exact numbers of course, just very rough numbers to get an idea.

This question may seem unrelated, but I think it is not. I just want to understand the money supply amount you chose, given that you say the single Mass token will not be dividable, and Mass coins will exist only in integer numbers.

It's on the edge, you're right. But if you look at the comment right next to yours, you'd see why not more than 10^12. LN implementation for colored coins is still unclear. Colu's on top of this; we'll follow their lead in this aspect. The essentials for the issuance won't change, though.
member
Activity: 118
Merit: 10
September 10, 2016, 12:16:14 AM
One Trillion Coins  Grin Grin Grin good luck with that  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1073
September 09, 2016, 08:02:30 PM
@massnetwork:
wanted to ask you a question. As you have investigated the ads market, you should definitely know this: what is the average amount (in bitcoins/satoshies) currently paid for a single ad of average size shown on a page (per view)? What is the range..? I don't talk about exact numbers of course, just very rough numbers to get an idea.

This question may seem unrelated, but I think it is not. I just want to understand the money supply amount you chose, given that you say the single Mass token will not be dividable, and Mass coins will exist only in integer numbers.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1073
September 09, 2016, 07:39:24 PM
u actually contributed nothing to the question. Stop motherfucking around if u don't have answers. Please Please ignore.
Thanks.
I don't want to pollute this thread, so will keep this short. I never answer stupid questions. And yes, I will be happy to ignore your further posts. Take care.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
September 09, 2016, 04:35:21 PM
Your "team" (no linked in profiles) are more 50% off Russians. The topic starter account is Russian.

Why are you pretending to have folowing addres: Noigem Establishment, Landstrasse 97, 9494 Schaan, Liechtenstein

All we have now is lending ICO page, how serious investor can trust you? It's impossible to believe that all of your "team" is real people.

How can you prove that you are not HYIP makers but serious TEAM?

Why didn't use ESCROW for ICO?

What do you know about incorporation of company in Russia and Russian regulations concerning business and especially crypto business?
Haha. All I know is that the situation is terrible there.

Are you from Russia? Do you know any particularities?
Hm, I am not very big expert in Russia but I know for sure that sometimes it is too expensive to set up business there because of many unofficial payments. Moreover, it does not seem Russian government tends to legalize any crypto activities.

Indeed, basing this in Russia would have been crazy. Except unclear legislation, bureaucracy is really terrible there (and always have been during last few centuries). If you don't have connections to authorities, starting serious business there is a kind of... well... risky. It doesn't mean I dislike Russia (not at all), I am just stating the unfortunate facts.

I am glad these guys base in civilized European country. Not sure why Liechtenstein though, but I like the place Smiley

http://www.borongaja.com/data_images/out/15/630030-liechtenstein-beautiful-places.jpg

BTW, its nice to see many Russians in the team - that gives us a chance to see non-standard approaches and solutions. IMHO Smiley
Russia is really bad choice for conducting crypto business.
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
September 09, 2016, 03:38:15 PM
Your "team" (no linked in profiles) are more 50% off Russians. The topic starter account is Russian.

Why are you pretending to have folowing addres: Noigem Establishment, Landstrasse 97, 9494 Schaan, Liechtenstein

All we have now is lending ICO page, how serious investor can trust you? It's impossible to believe that all of your "team" is real people.

How can you prove that you are not HYIP makers but serious TEAM?

Why didn't use ESCROW for ICO?

What do you know about incorporation of company in Russia and Russian regulations concerning business and especially crypto business?
Haha. All I know is that the situation is terrible there.

Are you from Russia? Do you know any particularities?
Hm, I am not very big expert in Russia but I know for sure that sometimes it is too expensive to set up business there because of many unofficial payments. Moreover, it does not seem Russian government tends to legalize any crypto activities.

Indeed, basing this in Russia would have been crazy. Except unclear legislation, bureaucracy is really terrible there (and always have been during last few centuries). If you don't have connections to authorities, starting serious business there is a kind of... well... risky. It doesn't mean I dislike Russia (not at all), I am just stating the unfortunate facts.

I am glad these guys base in civilized European country. Not sure why Liechtenstein though, but I like the place Smiley

http://www.borongaja.com/data_images/out/15/630030-liechtenstein-beautiful-places.jpg

BTW, its nice to see many Russians in the team - that gives us a chance to see non-standard approaches and solutions. IMHO Smiley
Yeap, you know some "features". In this case, why did you ask that question?  Smiley
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
September 09, 2016, 03:09:58 PM
Do you have sample/ test software on Github?  Why?
Why haven't you created video with real people form you team yet? I mean like Google hangout.
What is the minimum funding goal to create browser extension? Mass browser release?
What will you do if you only rise 100 BTC or 300 BTC or 500BTC? 
Will you return funds if no minimal threshold reached? Or you are going to work for "free", or just abandon this project…? 
How much are you going to pay to programmers, for marketing, lawyers, etc? 
Could you give more details on how you are going to create and maintain a new web browser? Will it be a modified copy from Brave browser?

I think you guys have underestimated the marketing side of running an ICO.  Good ideas is not enough. Somebody (real face) have to attend multiple crypto conferences before an ICO starts. Somebody have to create multiple videos with real faces explaining all ideas, answering questions - especially  if you want to rise over 1000 BTC, especially if you want to reach critical mass of users. Without good marketing strategy it is almost impossible.

Make no mistake – I like your idea and this project, but multiple questions like these above is spinning in my head. 

p.s.
I am from Lithuania - not so far from Latvia Wink


Q: Do you have sample/ test software on Github?  Why?
A: Soon we will.

Q: Why haven't you created video with real people form you team yet? I mean like Google hangout.
A: We should and we will; didn't occur to us.

Q: What is the minimum funding goal to create browser extension? Mass browser release?
A: It's a two parameter thing: zero if we have infinite time and infinite amount if we have zero time. The current roadmap corresponds with the resources that we already possess.

Q: What will you do if you only rise 100 BTC or 300 BTC or 500BTC? 
A: Same thing as now. A Smaller amount will consume more time.

Q: Will you return funds if no minimal threshold reached? Or you are going to work for "free", or just abandon this project…? 
A: We'll do it anyway. Those few people who bought Mass coins will be luckier, that's all.

Q: How much are you going to pay to programmers, for marketing, lawyers, etc? 
A: Look. Since we're not selling bonds or shares of a company (we're selling the currency that is the only one to use in Mass system) we decided that we don't have to share our accounting. Now we see that many people don't get the idea and we need to make the accounting transparent. Working on this.

Q: Could you give more details on how you are going to create and maintain a new web browser? Will it be a modified copy from Brave browser?
A: It has nothing to do with Brave; and, yes, the details are to be provided on the coming GitHub page.

Thank you for the marketing advice; will try to make some meaningful explanatory videos. Not sure we can afford to visit crypto conferences at the moment, though
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
September 09, 2016, 02:44:48 PM
45% Huh Huh

but why ?

Early believers have to be treated well. They help each dev to believe in himself more; that helps work better; that makes it better for everyone.
senseless. What early believers ? one is not an early believer if he got to know about ur project 3 seconds after the first 2 weeks timeline ? it is idiotic as hell. This is not some kind of religion that u need faith and belief's ? your Team must have the required motivation & work for the project.

No it is not helpful to anyone except the ICO flippers who will simply dump in the first hour cause of the 45% free coins the got.

please also do some google hangouts or YouTube videos / conferences explaining the product.

Thank you.

Our economic model differs from typical app.coin one in several aspects: (1)  ICO's share of emission is larger than continuous distribution (aka "mining") one (we have 70/30 ratio when usually it is vise versa); (2) we have a long ICO period since it has different economic sense and we need it as long as possible; (3) larger early-bird discounts because we have more than usual market-making power at the beginning of free trade.

Please note that none of the usual ICO-backed projects have shown any significant success yet. We don't see any project in the entire crypto space that would be a lightning house, an example or role model. Except for bitcoin currency itself. So, we might be right while everybody else is wrong. There's just no way to prove the contrary yet.

More here: https://blog.mass.network/mass-network-economic-model/
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 500
September 09, 2016, 01:45:28 PM
Seems much like new ADZcoin enabled in adblocker.  Grin
Too long ICO and it seem you guys are investing a lot in social media marketing, do you guys already have some inside investor for all this costs?

Many smaller online setups can make some money early on, but you have to spend money to make money and taking care of those in the beginning that can help take of you in the end.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
September 09, 2016, 12:56:12 PM
45% Huh Huh

but why ?

Early believers have to be treated well. They help each dev to believe in himself more; that helps work better; that makes it better for everyone.
senseless. What early believers ? one is not an early believer if he got to know about ur project 3 seconds after the first 2 weeks timeline ? it is idiotic as hell. This is not some kind of religion that u need faith and belief's ? your Team must have the required motivation & work for the project.

No it is not helpful to anyone except the ICO flippers who will simply dump in the first hour cause of the 45% free coins the got.

please also do some google hangouts or YouTube videos / conferences explaining the product.

Thank you.

Have at least some bravery and/or integrity to post from your real BCT account.

Or, if you are really a newbie here (which I doubt very much, though your question makes me think you might be one), then have some modesty, and look around a bit before you post. You may learn a lot.


u actually contributed nothing to the question. Stop motherfucking around if u don't have answers. Please Please ignore.

Thanks.
legendary
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September 09, 2016, 12:51:12 PM
Seems much like new ADZcoin enabled in adblocker.  Grin
Too long ICO and it seem you guys are investing a lot in social media marketing, do you guys already have some inside investor for all this costs?
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1073
September 09, 2016, 12:45:32 PM
45% Huh Huh

but why ?

Early believers have to be treated well. They help each dev to believe in himself more; that helps work better; that makes it better for everyone.
senseless. What early believers ? one is not an early believer if he got to know about ur project 3 seconds after the first 2 weeks timeline ? it is idiotic as hell. This is not some kind of religion that u need faith and belief's ? your Team must have the required motivation & work for the project.

No it is not helpful to anyone except the ICO flippers who will simply dump in the first hour cause of the 45% free coins the got.

please also do some google hangouts or YouTube videos / conferences explaining the product.

Thank you.

Have at least some bravery and/or integrity to post from your real BCT account.

Or, if you are really a newbie here (which I doubt very much, though your question makes me think you might be one), then have some modesty, and look around a bit before you post. You may learn a lot.
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