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legendary
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Isn't The Bilderberg Group just a conference for wealthy business leader types, where they can meet in peace to network, discuss their own plans...

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People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public
Adam Smith
The Wealth Of Nations, Book IV Chapter VIII, p. 145, para. c27.
legendary
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Isn't The Bilderberg Group just a conference for wealthy business leader types, where they can meet in peace to network, discuss their own plans, and just relax among their own peers, without the media and fans following them all over the place? The documentary I saw on it made it anything but sinister.
legendary
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Let the chips fall where they may.

My point was that you can't just assume the cause-and-effect you want emotionally. You would need to prove it. And the climate science is no where near even predicting temperature (they were so far off it is embarrassing), so don't even mention this more complex interactions. There are many possible scenarios that can create climate changes. The climate is always changing. This is normal. Been going on for millions of years btw. Wink

Everyone can have their emotional bias, but this isn't science.

The Arctic Ocean is now ice-free in the summer. My government has literally burnt books in an apparent attempt to cover up historical records that contradict their message that climate change is not a problem. That suggests that even utltra-right-wing Conservatives believe in the science.

Science is all about observing cause an effect. If you destroy the observations, I am going to have to rely on emotions.


Battery patents also appear to be why we do not have Electric SUVs pulling generator trailers on road-trips

You are using an internal combustion engine (ICE) in that design Wink

Yes. My point is that electric vehicles are only non-competitive if you assume that you need to quickly replace the energy expended. Most cars spend about 95% of their time parked, and are used for commuting less than 100km.

Pure Electric vehicles are not appropriate for continuous commercial use (like a taxi service) or long road-trips. That said, I have seen electric vehicles used all day in an industrial setting (intermittent use, read: forklifts and electric pallet jacks).

If I was going to spend a lot of time on the highway, I would consider a diesel vehicle.

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More cold and ice means less snowfall. You are obviously not a scientist.

I live in Edmonton. We get most of our moisture from the Pacific Ocean, which does not freeze over.

My point was that you can't just assume the cause-and-effect you want emotionally. You would need to prove it. And the climate science is no where near even predicting temperature (they were so far off it is embarrassing), so don't even mention this more complex interactions. There are many possible scenarios that can create climate changes. The climate is always changing. This is normal. Been going on for millions of years btw. Wink

Everyone can have their emotional bias, but this isn't science.

Ironically, I believe the conspiracy that electric cars are being held back by battery patents on NiMH batteries. As a result, they remain expensive and in limited supply.

And where is your science to support that?

If you knew enough about energy density and chemistry, you would realize batteries can not compete with hydrocarbon fuels for transportation.

ICE motors only get about 30% efficiency at best. They also have more moving parts and require more maintenance.

Thermal efficiency. But other holistic measures of efficiency ICE wins, which is why even here in the Philippines where I am where we can get electric motorcycles imported from China, they are not competitive with gasoline motorcycles.

And diesel is 30% more efficient than gasoline because the engine operates at a much higher temperature. Thermal efficiency is related to the ratio of the temperature of the internal combustion chamber to the ambient air outside.

Lithium-ion batteries may be lighter, but in practice you are only allowed to use about 60% of the capacity (30-90% charge). This negates the weight advantages over NiMH.

Indeed. And silver batteries even better theoretically, but they haven't been perfected apparently.

Patents don't require science to prove they exist: Patent encumbrance of large automotive NiMH batteries.

I ran into those limitations trying to build a lighting system for my bicycle. You don't see rechargeable D cells in stores: even though "real" NiMH cells have more capacity than the alkaline cells you can buy. The NiMH C and D cells you may see in stores are really AA cells: which is why advertise the same capacity as AA cell.

I got to play with some real 10Amp-hour cells imported from China by a friend. They cost about $3 each (packages of 16 totaling about $50). The "fake" D cells cost $5 each, and only have 2 amp-hour capacity. I asked about buying high-capacity cells locally: and was quoted $50 per cell. Patent fees discouraging automotive use is the only rational explanation.

Yet even without the patents (and I am against software patents), they are not competitive with ICE for most transportation applications.

Battery patents also appear to be why we do not have Electric SUVs pulling generator trailers on road-trips

You are using an internal combustion engine (ICE) in that design Wink

This leads to devices designed to betray the users.

You have not articulated a connection. Were you thinking IP == closed source, and open source is more security vetted?

No, that since the 1996 WIPO "Copyright" and "Performances and Phonograms" Treaties, devices and software have been designed to betray the user in order to enforce Effective Technological Measures.

As an example, HDMI was invented to encrypt the video signal going from video players to displays. The standard sucks: it's only purpose is to require device manufacturers to agree to a patent license. The patent license in turn, requires the use of HDCP, which does the actual encryption. The real "single cable digital audio-visual" standard is DVI, which does not use HDCP. The cabling is actually cheaper and higher quality (and can send signals much longer distances).

I heard about that. I am also pissed off about patent abuse. I'm definitely against software patents, and probably against all patents entirely.
legendary
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Let the chips fall where they may.

More cold and ice means less snowfall. You are obviously not a scientist.

I live in Edmonton. We get most of our moisture from the Pacific Ocean, which does not freeze over.

Ironically, I believe the conspiracy that electric cars are being held back by battery patents on NiMH batteries. As a result, they remain expensive and in limited supply.

And where is your science to support that?

If you knew enough about energy density and chemistry, you would realize batteries can not compete with hydrocarbon fuels for transportation.
ICE motors only get about 30% efficiency at best. They also have more moving parts and require more maintenance. Lithium-ion batteries may be lighter, but in practice you are only allowed to use about 60% of the capacity (30-90% charge). This negates the weight advantages over NiMH.

Patents don't require science to prove they exist: Patent encumbrance of large automotive NiMH batteries.

I ran into those limitations trying to build a lighting system for my bicycle. You don't see rechargeable D cells in stores: even though "real" NiMH cells have more capacity than the alkaline cells you can buy. The NiMH C and D cells you may see in stores are really AA cells: which is why advertise the same capacity as AA cell.

I got to play with some real 10Amp-hour cells imported from China by a friend. They cost about $3 each (packages of 16 totaling about $50). The "fake" D cells cost $5 each, and only have 2 amp-hour capacity. I asked about buying high-capacity cells locally: and was quoted $50 per cell. Patent fees discouraging automotive use is the only rational explanation.

Battery patents also appear to be why we do not have Electric SUVs pulling generator trailers on road-trips
This leads to devices designed to betray the users.

You have not articulated a connection. Were you thinking IP == closed source, and open source is more security vetted?

No, that since the 1996 WIPO "Copyright" and "Performances and Phonograms" Treaties, devices and software have been designed to betray the user in order to enforce Effective Technological Measures.

As an example, HDMI was invented to encrypt the video signal going from video players to displays. The standard sucks: it's only purpose is to require device manufacturers to agree to a patent license. The patent license in turn, requires gives a $1-2/port discount for the use of HDCP, which does the actual encryption. The real "single cable digital audio-visual" standard is DVI, which does not use HDCP. The cabling is actually cheaper and higher quality (and can send signals much longer distances).


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If we go into a Madmax world where the governments are bailing-in all the bank deposits, they are instituting negative interest rates to charge you money every month for having money, and the IMF's proposed net worth tax, etc...

Then all those who have wealth will want anonymity. And all those who don't have wealth and suck the tit of government, will not want anonymity.

Which one of those categories applies to you?

Do you think that Madmax outcome is not coming before 2020?

2020?!?! Try before the end of the year.
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You go into a lot of detail, but most of it strikes me as slightly wrong.

Not everything is part of some global conspiracy to control the masses. As you point out: delaying problems inevitably leads to collapse. Any secret cabal in power must realize this.

1. I have never argued there needs to exist a cabal in order for the Mad Max outcome to occur. The logic for the coming collapse is purely mathematical and the repeating historical pattern that socialism never aborts until a collapse forces it too (and understanding why it can't abort).

2. If the Bilderberg group is real (and I've seen Alex Jones' videos of the super rich entering the annual conference), then collapse is the best possible outcome for them. As it allows them via their control over government to increase their power. As they have been quoted as saying, "never waste a good crisis to get some favorable legislation or other results" to further increase their iron-grip on all things.

Global warning is real, and appears to be happening in my life-time. We are seeing more and more snow-free days. When I was a kid, snow-free Decembers were rare in Edmonton. In the last 15 years, we have come close to something like 5 "brown Christmases".

More cold and ice means less snowfall. You are obviously not a scientist.

Ironically, I believe the conspiracy that electric cars are being held back by battery patents on NiMH batteries. As a result, they remain expensive and in limited supply.

And where is your science to support that?

If you knew enough about energy density and chemistry, you would realize batteries can not compete with hydrocarbon fuels for transportation.

This conflicts with the theory that smart meters are control measures. (Electric cars can make very interesting use of smart-meters).

Huh? What kind of logic is that? Not.

Just because electric cars could help drive adoption of smart meters, doesn't logically constrain that if there was a conspiracy to stop electric cars that there must not be a conspiracy to promote adoption of smart meters for evil intent.

You also seem to be under the delusion that "Intellectual Property" rights should trump physical property rights.

I don't believe in IP. I believe if you can't protect it, it isn't yours. I don't believe in "rights". Your right is only what you can economically accomplish. Ultimately the reality eventually always ends up at what is economic.

This leads to devices designed to betray the users.

You have not articulated a connection. Were you thinking IP == closed source, and open source is more security vetted?

The rabbit hole goes so deep that the thought of setting up a VPN service users may rely on for their safety sickens me. Because modern computers are inherently insecure, sometimes actively made that way: there is no easy way to prove your infrastructure is not back-doored.

It doesn't sicken me. It is a reality that we must contend with. Apparently you aren't aware of Information Theoretic Security.

The thinkg is, we need to risk setting up privacy-enhancing infrastructure. We need to start auditing our routers, NICs, keyboard and storage firmware. We need to start proving software (especially embedded software) is written correctly.

Agreed.
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legendary
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Let the chips fall where they may.
You go into a lot of detail, but most of it strikes me as slightly wrong.

Not everything is part of some global conspiracy to control the masses. As you point out: delaying problems inevitably leads to collapse. Any secret cabal in power must realize this.

Global warning is real, and appears to be happening in my life-time. We are seeing more and more snow-free days. When I was a kid, snow-free Decembers were rare in Edmonton. In the last 15 years, we have come close to something like 5 "brown Christmases".

Ironically, I believe the conspiracy that electric cars are being held back by battery patents on NiMH batteries. As a result, they remain expensive and in limited supply. This conflicts with the theory that smart meters are control measures. (Electric cars can make very interesting use of smart-meters).

You also seem to be under the delusion that "Intellectual Property" rights should trump physical property rights. This leads to devices designed to betray the users. The rabbit hole goes so deep that the thought of setting up a VPN service users may rely on for their safety sickens me. Because modern computers are inherently insecure, sometimes actively made that way: there is no easy way to prove your infrastructure is not back-doored.

The think is, we need to risk setting up privacy-enhancing infrastructure. We need to start auditing our routers, NICs, keyboard and storage firmware. We need to start proving software (especially embedded software) is written correctly.

hero member
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A link to open source software would be nice but given Armstrong's alleged history, that's unlikely to happen.

Alleged ? Come come Blah Blah - the man was convicted in a court of law Wink.

You are too lazy to learn what really happened. Such as being held in jail for 7 years on a contempt charge by the Kangeroo courts because he had information that the banksters wanted and he would not give it to them, so they fabricated bogus charges and refused to allow him to present evidence at the trial. He eventually did a plea deal, so he could get out of prison, but this was no admission of guilt. Armstrong has covered this in great detail in his writings on his blog.

I should take some time to read and understand Armstrong's predictive model.

Are the links you gave here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3831400

Sufficient information understand it?

Good find.

A link to open source software would be nice but given Armstrong's alleged history, that's unlikely to happen.

Nonetheless, if one is an OOP developer (or is good at directing their work), it might not take such a huge epiphany to come up with a learning model. It might perhaps get market performance data and use those to provide fitness constraints.

Your A.I. model wouldn't have sufficient training data.

Armstrong spent and collected $10s of millions of data from archaeology, sending researchers to newspaper archives all over the world, etc..

At least $100 million would be required to recreate his model, and also there are things he discovered along the way such as the 4th dimensional wave structure...

He has written about all of this on his blog over the past year.
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A link to open source software would be nice but given Armstrong's alleged history, that's unlikely to happen.

Alleged ? Come come Blah Blah - the man was convicted in a court of law Wink.


Fermi-Pasta-Ulam problem. Wink
However, I'm not convinced that a piecewise vibrating string is a good proof of concept.

My maths isn't so good - could I correctly infer from the Fermi-Pasta-Ulam paradox that M.Armstrong is, albeit eloquently and with a sufficient facade of authority, talking out of his arse ?

Or at least, can we be confident that this is the case within, say, one standard deviation - if we were to ascribe "talking out of his arse" as the mean, so to speak ?

I guess we'll never know one way or the other, what with his models being proprietry, will we ?

How about no win no fee ?
legendary
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I should take some time to read and understand Armstrong's predictive model.

Are the links you gave here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3831400

Sufficient information understand it?
hero member
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All FX exchange markets topped relative to the dollar in 2008 when the debt bubble bust. Since then some tried to pull back to their highs due to $trillions injected by central banks and China's massive stimulus, but now as of 2013 all have topped and dollar getting stronger. The Euro's pattern is deceiving as it appears to be getting stronger but you see it is very weak improvement and the it really topped out in 2008 relative to the dollar.

This is exactly as predicted in this thread and by Martin Armstrong. Expect a massive dollar rally into 2015.75 and then all hell will break loose. The Euro will probably resume collapse once the IMF's suggested 10% confiscation for all EU accounts takes place. I read the implementing law is planned for this year.

http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-graph-zoom.php?C1=USD&C2=EUR&A=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2000&DD2=24&MM2=02&YYYY2=2014&LARGE=1&LANG=en&CJ=0



http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-graph-zoom.php?C1=USD&C2=JPY&A=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2000&DD2=24&MM2=02&YYYY2=2014&LARGE=1&LANG=en&CJ=0



http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-graph-zoom.php?C1=USD&C2=INR&A=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2000&DD2=24&MM2=02&YYYY2=2014&LARGE=1&LANG=en&CJ=0



http://fxtop.com/en/historical-exchange-rates-graph-zoom.php?C1=USD&C2=PHP&A=1&DD1=01&MM1=01&YYYY1=2000&DD2=24&MM2=02&YYYY2=2014&LARGE=1&LANG=en&CJ=0

legendary
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This world is on the verge. Current fake economic system would not last long I tell you, maybe not in our lifetime but in the close future I expect not only Madmax outcome but full scale Fallout outcome. It won't end good.
legendary
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And this poor dolt is supposed to be telling me about economics, when I've earned more in a month from software businesses I launched than apparently he has earned in his entire lifetime.

Yes, that is exactly what I want you and everyone else who gets too curious about my net worth and finances to think.

You, on the other hand, feel free to keep bragging about how much you;ve made and how wealthy you are. Right up to the point where some people decide to come take some of it Smiley
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Armstrong's model predicted 9/11 to the exact day among other amazing predictions.

So you can understand why he thinks any elite is not in control.

But my point was never that the elite can avoid the natural timings of nature. They are symbiotic with nature, else they wouldn't exist.
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
You're on a power trip. It all fits together, but it is not surprising to me that you can't fathom it.
This guy nailed it.
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