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I have debated with Martin Armstrong in private email (have not publicly shared all of this) and he continues to build a strawman argument that the rumors of a CIA plot in Ukraine are the cause of people in the West not rising up to support the freedom of the Ukrainian people. See the following blog article:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/03/comment-from-eastern-ukraine/

Whether or not the CIA was involved is irrelevant to the fact that it is not the responsibility of Americans to create freedom for Ukrainians. The Ukrainians need to fight for their own freedom, just as we had to fight for our own freedom. Only Communists and Socialists would argue that it is the responsibility of others to do the responsibility that others refused to do for themselves.

The Ukrainians are in this mess because they didn't arm themselves over the past decades and were complacent on Russian dominance of their economy.

Martin wants some sort of Communist fantasy solution where we will top-down design the structure of countries to design in the best solutions economically. This is so idiotic because it completely ignores the fact that economics begins grassroots and if the people of Ukraine have been so inept for the past decades, then we can't top-down fix their ineptness.

Martin has revealed that he is a Socialist pig. And I very disappointed as I thought he was a free market advocate.

Also he has not disproven that the USA and Russia are manipulating the outcome (ostensibly, but not necessarily for my argument to be valid, for globalist agenda).

Until Martin wises up, I have relegated him to "great modeler of timing, astute historian, but completely inept economist and political scientist".

It is normal that individuals can be very gifted in one area and completely inept in other areas.

Whereas, I am arguably a polymath (becoming more apparent to me lately) and am astute in a wide range of fields.


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Subject: Martin you are losing your sanity
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Sat, May 3, 2014 6:20 am
To:      [email protected]
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/02/lagrandes-imf-should-be-outlawed-the-real-terrorist-organization/

Quote from: Armstrong
The CIA conspiracy has worked well. Nobody will defend these people
because they assume they will be supporting the CIA. Meanwhile, the US has
usurped the democratic process and the people are denied the right to
honest free elections for nobody but professional politicians are allowed
near government. This is the real downside of the NSA – just allege a CIA
plot and you disarm the people. Absolutely brilliant!

I've never seen you write such complete nonsense before.

Have my emails caused you to have a mental breakdown?

Show some evidence that powers that are capable of intervening in the
Ukraine situation ares swayed not to by the an alleged CIA plot. That is
an incredulous assumption.

Simply put, none of us can do a damn thing. Do you expect us to write our
Congressman and demand the USA go defend Ukraine against Russia? Are you
crazy?

We should start a war with Russia because the Ukraine revolutionaries
miscalculated and started a revolution that they could not finish.

At least the Oathkeepers in the USA are armed and fully prepared to finish
what they start.

Europeans are for the most part a clueless bunch of Communist fucks. They
never did fight for gun rights and submitted to gun control. So thus they
can't defend their liberty. Exceptions to some small extent for example in
North Finland.
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The Trilateral Commission created by David Rockefeller and Brzezinski. Anthony Sutton and Patrick Wood have documented this in great detail, but Martin Armstrong apparently refuses to review the evidence they presented. I can presume Armstrong has not watched these videos I've sent him. If he watches these, I am confident he will realize he is wrong. But apparently he doesn't don't want to review the evidence. He would rather speculate and apply a confirmation bias, because based on his blog posts he think the only possible solution is political organization. His expertise is trading and trading cycles. His modeling succeeded because he relied on extensive historic data. Whereas, on this issue of globalist control, he refuses to do the same extensive digging for the data. He bases his myopic view based on analyzing the compartmentalized actors who he thinks are the full extent of any global network.

Why is he being lazy? I just watched these videos again (had watched them long ago and forgotten them) before sending them to him. I am not being lazy. And I don't have this time to waste. I need to be programming, not doing this...

Watch these please. If he watches these in entirety, I think it is impossible with his high IQ that he will not have a personal existential philosophical crisis that will lead to great epiphanies over time and a renewal and re-growth for him (even at his advancing age).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul5oQ3wbstQ

Conspiracy PROVEN by Anthony Sutton who has the documents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_YWFC1HY74

The video above states he has proven these globalists are causing revolutions and wars. And the detailed evidence on that is as follows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3vZNSAi-QM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vftNpSXUOU8

If you do the following research (including the info above), you discover that Rockefeller et al funded the initial movement and institutionalized environmentalism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7P5cbTYXLY (Behind The Green Curtain)

http://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/our-focus/our-focus/climate-environment

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/jlaksin/how-the-rockefeller-fund-killed-keystone/

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/greenpeace-confirms-rockefeller-link-as-palmer-faces-legal-action-20120321-1vj15.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUk70tfELA&index=5&list=PL47C1EE96664999BE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa05CDaN8Rs
(Maurice Strong was involved in 1972 UN conference in prior video above)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_M1V_NefnM


Add the globalists instigation of communism in Africa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWJplkgknL8


Add:

UN Agenda 21 plan is this Rockefeller global environmentalism slavery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykELwj1Ta8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGUU3QDn7W4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9OlVVPsYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHWsdimVO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3qW2XJZdSA

Even Hillary Clinton explains that the government is told what to do by the CFR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfpgl6NqF0I

Even the JFK assassination is a proven (and likely globalist) conspiracy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ-gC4p_lUE#t=159

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXQYvm57YM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aknLrdjqKDY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lOKs0Kr_Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd1wuXrVPjo
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From my email from an anonymous contributor:

The only thing I can add as a talking point is Martin brings up the NSA and Bush
neocons, as though the surveillance state originated with them.  Historical
documents show there was an elite ideological construct prototype of the
surveillance state in early 1900s that proponents described as the "scientific
society", widely hailed in elite intelligenstia circles that included the likes of
science fiction novelist H.G. Wells, a staunch proponent of world government and
human micromanagement who authored the draft of the UN Declaration of Universal
Human Rights with an authoritarian caveat. By the 1930s, this group formerly
transitioned into the Technocracy movement, with more 500,000 card carrying members
attending large meetings with organizers dressed in custom color gray suits driving
specially ordered matching gray GM vehicles.  Get this, a founder of
formalized Technocracy was M. King Hubbert, the geophysicist who famously calculated
US and global oil depletion rates, frequently referenced in peak oil circles.   This
brings us full circle to the current plan to change the current global economic
system into one tightly controlled centrally and operated as an "energy credit"
system.  Finally, recall that Brzezinski's book Between Two Ages; America's Role in
the Technotronic Era (1970), describes a system where every person and every
transaction and service is monitored and continuously tracked.  Brzezinski and David
Rockefeller founded the Trilaleralists who formerly seized control of the US
executive branch starting with the Carter administration (certainly, the process
itself got underway before Bush and the neocons).  The Trilateralists were not just
placed in high level political positions, they were strategically positioned in
business, finance, industry, world banking, etc.
In case you want to pass this on to Martin, here's the youtube link for a Patrick
Wood presentation.  It is the most thorough overview of Technocracy and
Trilateralists that connects ALL of the dots, including, international banking, NSA
and the surveillance state, and the methodical deep capture of economic, political,
and ecclesiastical systems (also explained in a widely cited book by the late
Senator Barry Goldwater).  Recall that Sutton mentored Wood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul5oQ3wbstQ   [If you have some downtime, this would
be well worth watching, as is the Sutton video I'm including.]
In an interview available on youtube, Sutton explains how the elite captured and
controlled all sides of every US political and social system.  He starts out by
discussing the organization of Skull and Bones and its "tap on the shoulder" style
of entry into the elite power structure.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_YWFC1HY74
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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Final email on globalist issue (response to Martin's latest blog  post)
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 1, 2014 8:37 pm
To:      [email protected]
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/01/behind-the-curtain-putin-is-admired/

Catherine Austin Fitts' point that government intentionally designs in
failure when it is in its best interest but can act very swiftly when that
is in its best interest (i.e. the best interests of the elite "Fourth
Branch of Government" who capture the government).

http://www.dailypaul.com/314402/complete-breakdown-of-financial-controls-in-us-government-says-austin-fitts

Martin you see some of the activity of the compartmentalized (look up the
term!) unelected actors, but you are not privy to the important secretive
consultations, e.g. do you intercept Henry Kissinger's communications! Of
course not.

I can only pray that you stop extrapolating your incomplete dataset. You
of all people should know that you can't make an accurate assessment when
you lack the data sample.

We simply don't have access to all these secretive plans and communications.

Yet I have already referred you to several pieces of evidence:

1. Anthony Sutton's detailed research
2. Aaron Ruso's video wherein he said Nick Rockefeller informed him of
9/11 before it occurred and told him the plan was to microchip the
population
3. Oliver North's revelations
4. Perkin's book Confessions of an Economic Hitman
5. Carrol Quigley's book Tragedy and Hope.


I simply don't have more time to expend on trying to convince you to do
some research (because I am too busy working on a solution to this global
mess). And I am confident there is a lot more evidence than the short list
above.

I hope to read from you that you actually still have an open mind at your
age. I know it is difficult for an older person to keep their mind
flexible to facts that entirely alter their world view (very difficult for
an older person to do this as it wipes out a lot they invested in).

All the best. My prayers are with you.
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You should reference this book if he doesn't like Sutton:
http://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110Xive.

written by a guy that was one of Bill Clinton's professors at Georgetown University. Very authoritative analysis of the global power dynamic  from an insider perspective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley#Influence_on_Bill_Clinton
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Subject: Thanks Martin for all you do (surely you can add 2 + 2?)
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 1, 2014 2:35 pm
To:      [email protected]
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Martin,

I just want you to know I really appreciate the immense achievements and
sharing you do. Please do not take my prior messages as a reduction in my
appreciation and acknowledgement.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/01/may-day-in-turkey-riots-tear-gas/

Indeed! Now how can we apply it to help solve this global mess? That is
the $trillion question.

And about this:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/01/how-far-in-the-future-does-your-computer-model-project/

Quote from: Armstrong
This is what the conspiracy nuts cannot get through their
head who insist Ukraine was orchestrated by a CIA plot. All the desire of
the CIA to accomplish a change in government may exist. However, the best
that can be accomplished is a coup – not a revolution. Why? A coup does
not require the PEOPLE – only a small group. A Revolution requires the
PEOPLE and that will only be accomplished when the economic trend declines
and forces the people to take action.

Indeed Martin, the globalists must work within the natural cycles. Which
is why they follow your work keenly and you are very important for them
(and thus they will not kill you for as long as they need you). Inciting
and directing the revolution in Ukraine had to follow the destruction of
the economy by the globalist IMF, international bankers, et al. Don't you
see, you have not refuted anything about a USA plot in Ukraine.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/01/china-russia-joining-forces-against-usa/

That is by design and it is the desired outcome to forge the fabricated
conflicts between large powers in order to destroy sovereignty of small
entities and force all into the 10 Kings regions and "international
cooperation" (a code word for loss of individual sovereignty). This has
long been planned in US strategic whitepapers. Do some research Martin.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/01/update-on-crimea/
http://i1.wp.com/armstrongeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Yalta_Conference_Churchill_Roosevelt_Stalin.jpg?resize=584%2C480

And what you do think those guys were talking about at Yalta? Of course
how to cooperate on globalist hegemony.

Yes we are already in Fascism:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/01/are-we-headed-into-global-fascism/

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

See the Youtubes of the Bilderberg meetings where for example Eric Schmidt
hobnobs with international bankers.

Obama's plan to impose tolls on interstate highways is part of the globalist Agenda 21 plan of control (another link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6236223), and also another cog in the global technocracy plan wherein they will track everything and only multi-national corporations will do business and the rest of us will be renters and slaves:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/30/obama-is-ready-to-impose-tolls-on-all-interstate-highways/

http://www.nestmann.com/the-war-on-privacy-is-coming-to-a-license-plate-near-you

See the bankster business model to turn all into renters who work like slave just to pay all their expenses:

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/01.10/thinklikeabanker.html
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You don't consider all the possibilities. What if the USA has set in
motion the revolution in Ukraine because they wanted and expected Russia
to do exactly what Russia is doing. First the corruption of the prior
President of Ukraine was revealed in the process and now Russia is being
made to look like the aggressor in the eyes of the international
community.

Surprisingly, Martin replied on his blog.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/30/opinion-speculation-do-not-cut-it/

The title "Opinion & Speculation do not Cut It." implies that knowledge about a global conspiracy is speculation and opinion, yet Martin continues to ignore all the evidence I provided to him upthread, such as the impeccable research of Anthony Sutton, the video of Aaron Russo saying that Nick Rockefeller told him about 9/11 before it happened and the plan to microchip the population.

Below I address each of Martin's points.

But first, I would like to share anonymously some communications I receive in my email. Note the following was not written carefully and not intended for public dissemination, so please don't judge it harshly. Just take it for the information you can gleam from it.

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I am convinced the US vs. Russia meme is a MAJOR PRIORITY psy op.  It's
obvious from the extreme emotive language being used in the MSM and the large number
of prominent known gatekeeper websites and agents who are pumping this meme HARD!
To include Alex Jones (using classic mind control techniques and imagery on
infowars) and his minion Paul Watson spreading this disinfo across the net.
Perhaps there were genuine people seeking "liberty" or simple redress in the
Ukraine, it's often the case that these CIA NGOs infiltrate a political opposition
group and then fund and steer them.  They are pawns.  That doesn't change the
underlying power dynamics and there is A LOT of evidence showing how this is played
out.  Several researchers have covered this in exquisite DETAIL naming the
agents/backers of these groups and who they're linked to.  Off the top of my head is
Brandon Turbeville who submits articles for Activist Post.  There are others.
Not only do the apex globalists know how the Russian people will react in a
psychological sense (hence the posturing response), they KNOW how their leaders will
react and how far they will go in this charade because they already have them by the
short hairs.  For all essential purposes, Russia operates as a plutocracy.
Remember, it was top Trilateralist Larry Summers, former Secretary of Treasury,
Chief Economist at the World Bank, and Goldman Sachs executive, who was sent to
Russia in the mid 90s after it's economy was deliberately imploded to advise on the
privatization of the Russian peoples' state owned assets, selling them for next to
nothing leading to the rise of eight billionaire oligarchs (seven of eight being
Jewish) and creating an extreme concentration of capital.  Typical apex globalist
modus operandi and this period marked the deep capture of the Russian political
state.
Recall that it was Larry Summers at the last November IMF meeting who called for a
global digital currency and the end of cash.  In the same time frame, a Federal
Reserve Board governor recommended the implementation of capital controls in the US.
  The international bankster mafia is highly coordinated.   They have a hand in all
major events.  To think otherwise is naive, for sure!
P.S. Summers was also intrumental in the abolishment of the Glass Steagall Act.His
Wiki rap sheet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Summers

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The Ukraine was about balkanizing yet another nation state and in the process
creating more theater, and most important, deeper IMF control.
Don't forget the lessons of Antony Sutton.
Why is Russia being given the red carpet treatment to economically recolonize
Afghanistan given absolute US/NATO control over Afghanistan?  For several years now,
thousands of Russian troops been training on US military bases - officially
reported!  Why would western globalists allow Russian troops access to US intel?
They wouldn't.  The apex globalist don't worry that Russia is a military or economic
threat because they know they have already been assimilated into the global
governance paradigm.
Putin called for IMF involvement in the Ukraine and the IMF bailout became a
windfall for Russian banks and Putin personally.  Russia has a long and deep history
with the IMF, as outlined by a recent article by Brandon Smith of altmarket.com.  
For several years, Putin has publicly stated his support for the process of ending
nation states in favor of regionalization and calls them essential "bricks" in the
new international economic order.  He sent out Russian intelligence agents to murder
the Polish government when they refused to capitulate to IMF demands.  
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/09/the-grand-chess-board-of-world-war-iii/
Putin is owned by the international banksters, AnonyMint, what we are watching is
elaborate theater, the threat of war to force a call for world government, and the
creation of a scapegoat for the eventual devaluation of the dollar and distraction
from the real perpetrators when the economy begins to painfully contract as they try
to pull out every trick in the bag to keep pumping monetary inflation (hence the
strident calls for a minimum wage increase).
This I am sure of and can tell much more in context later.
Please keep an open mind.  I know how they think.  
If there is a major conflict, it will be scripted for depopulation and for the
purposes of putting the final nails in their prison planet edifice (which must
eventually fail).  However, TPTB are somewhat reluctant to create that level of
chaos as they know they might lose control at this point.
We should review this more later.

Now let me address Martin's blog points.

Quote from: Armstrong
It is a shame that such nonsense degrades the people of Ukraine and makes their suffering just some conspiracy plot not worthy of any respect and the people who have died deserve nothing – not even a mention.The Ukrainian people’s efforts and cries for freedom obviously fall upon deaf ears with this bullshit. No PLOT can move that many people to action and you know nothing about plots or coups verses real revolutions born of civil unrest. Under your skepticism, the American and French Revolutions were fake as well or even the Russian Revolution of 1917 or Yeltsin standing on the tanks in 1991. It is always some plot by masterminds who cannot tie their shoes and chew gum at the same time yet have unbelievable power to move nations. They cannot manage the economy, which would require the same master skills to move a nation of people as they desire.

Nothing I wrote degraded the genuine desire of Ukrainians to have a better life. Martin conflates orthogonal issues. The power vacuum of democracy will NEVER allow the governed to be free. See the following link for why that is so and will always be so.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984 (Some Iron Laws of Political Economics)

So when I discuss how the vested interests of the global power vacuum operate, this by no means degrades the legitimate desire for the people to find a way to break away from the slavery of the power vacuum of democracy. However the means by which to achieve such a solution, is orthogonal to the discussion of the power that the vested interests have now given the current situation wherein there is no way to escape from that power vacuum, because there is no way to escape from taxation. And in fact the situation is getting worse, because cash is going away and all commerce will be digital and currently less anonymous than cash was. The solution to this problem is one that I am working on, so please don't tell me about degrading genuine desires for the freedom of people. I am actually risking my life and putting my actions where my mouth is.

Martin is asserting that it is impossible for the powers-that-be to sway public opinion. That has got to be the most naive assertion I've ever heard from him. Does he not understand the power the control over mass media entails? The powers that be were able to fool 75% of the population into believing in the man-made global warming hoax. How did they do it? They control the schools (where the kids are indoctrinated with this shit and I know this first hand), they control the mass media, the control the large corporations. Here where I am I see the large malls even have a brown bag day every Wednesday to push that man-made global warming hoax on the minds of the gullible sheep population.

So sorry Martin, I usually agree with your analysis. But in this case, you have bias and you can't see past your nose on this one. If I didn't respect you, I wouldn't bother telling you frankly.

Even Martin had a blog post about KGB intercept of the US Asst Sec of State doing that manipulation of the Ukraine politicians leading up to the coup. We know for a fact that the USA was in there manipulating the situation. We have the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman by Perkins, who documents how the USA is always creating coups, revolutions, and assassinations. We have the revelations of Oliver North about that shit that was going on in Latin America.

How did the USA create the revolutions in Africa and the Middle East and Ukraine? It was a combination of destroying their economies, the raising the oil price sky high causing food inflation, then using their lackey Assange of Wikileaks to leak diplomatic cables to enrage the people. Then they had key people start social networking "spread this message", etc.. There are many other details I am omitting but if you are really serious about knowing the truth then you will do some forensic research instead of just spouting off your own biases.

Quote from: Armstrong
The West has usurped Ukraine and stuffed the Parliament with their favored professional politicians. That does not mean the US government instigated that. NOT a single person from Maidan was invited by the West to be part of this new government for they will NOT deal with revolutionaries for ONE reason – they cannot be bought or told what to do. Obama just came out and stated the US will not send troops to Ukraine and Britain is in the same camp. They do not plot a revolution with no intent to be involved.

My gosh you are naive. Don't you understand that the globalist powers-that-be are always infiltrating and/or funding both sides of every conflict.

This is the Hegelian dialectic (opposing memes thesis and antithesis), i.e. a fabricated conflict to drive the people towards their control and then manage the outcome.

Quote from: Armstrong
I personally know people who were on the barricades in Maidan. I do not offer my “opinion” no “speculation” with what I think might have happened.

That doesn't mean you know everyone and who funded and instigated. The powers-that-be also leverage (in the Hegelian model) movements that start spontaneously as well.

Quote from: Armstrong
You can sit in your room pretending to be a victim of grand plots, I actually am engaged around the world. What took place in Ukraine will take place in Europe and eventually in the USA. You are blind to a rising trend on a global basis against widespread corruption because you prefer to be a victim that is powerless against the forces of darkness that you can only theorize. I have groups asking for help from India to Eastern Europe. I can see the same complaints are universal. Don’t worry – it will hit Russia too. This is the Age of Civil Unrest – it is a shame you cannot see beyond Ukraine nor connect the dots.

I am not blind to the corruption. I have written extensively about the corruption. You again conflate orthogonal issues. The corruption that is taking place due to the power vacuum of democracy is an ingredient in what is going on, but it is not the big picture. The big picture is that those globalists who sit on the top of the totem pole, have foreseen that the system would collapse in nation-state corruption and this would be the perfect pretense to wreck the globe and create hate against nation-state governance and usher in broad acceptance of "international cooperation" (Obama's recent words, which are a repeat of former President Herbert Walker Bush's 1980s speech on a new world order) as a way to have peace and order and relieve the imminent global suffering that has been INTENTIONALLY PLANNED AND GUIDED by the globalists.

Quote from: Armstrong
The Ukrainian people have been told by the West to now shut-up. They have been warned that if they overthrow the installed politicians, who will sell their country down the tubes taking direction from the IMF, the people of Ukraine will not be supported by the West. Well, the West is not supporting them anyway and Kerry just made that clear today. They will be exploited upon the directions of the IMF. I oppose intervention from the West or from Russia. These people deserve a life – not one dictated as pawns in a some giant game of geopolitical-chess.

Correct. So why can't you see the globalist powers-that-be are fabricating this conflict for the reasons I have stated. The are moving us towards the 10 conflicting regions, i.e. the 10 Kings in the Bible. This is the final stage before the last stage of a one world region-- the antichrist. The new Russian bloc that you've written about is one of the 10 regions. Europe is another. North America is another. The coming Asian Union in 2015 is another. You see the globalists fabricating this conflict between China and Philippines and the renewal of the China vs. Japan conflict by using propaganda in the mass media.

Quote from: Armstrong
This “aggression” is Putin’s agenda and he has been on record stating his goal is to restore the Soviet Union by 2020. The West will leave Ukraine assuming Putin will stop there as was the case with Hitler and Poland. There was no plot that gave Putin that mindset. I know PERSONALLY how he came to power and PERSONAL friends of Putin for decades. He simply believes that restoring territory will return respect to Russia. It is a shame he sees land as power rather than economics. However, it is what it is.

Putin didn't come to power without the blessing of the globalists. I had already sent you the Youtubes where Anthony Sutton offered his detailed and impeccable research of the globalist manipulations in the Russian revolution, etc.. Not every plan of the globalists succeed. They float trial balloons and then they pick from those that work and then wrap strategy around what is working. They have patience and long time frames to operate within.

Quote from: Armstrong
The Russian economy is less than half that of Japan on a bad day. China has outperformed Russia because they have ALLOWED free enterprises to form. Russia moved only from Communism to Oligarchy. Russia could have been the second largest economy had it just let the people free to compete. There is no open free enterprise in Russia to create a new future and that is its short-fall. Taking back all of Eastern Europe will not make Russia great. It will only drain its economy and lead to even more poverty. This is the 21st century – not the 19th.

Indeed. And what is the force that is guiding the Russian outcome this direction since the time of the Bolshevik revolution? If you do some forensic research, you will start to see the invisible hand.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed--the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

Quote from: Armstrong
Sorry – it is you who fills gaps with presumptions and assumptions based upon comic book scripts. There is a whole lot more behind-the-curtain than anyone could possibly imagine. You credit these people with incredible wisdom and power. You have not stared directly into their eyes as I have in search of a light.

You have yet to refute Anthony Sutton's research.
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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Martin Armstrong is as naive as a 5 year old child
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, April 29, 2014 4:02 pm
To:      [email protected]
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/29/kerry-said-nato-territory-will-be-defended-to-every-inch/

Quote from: Armstrong
This is why I said from the start, give Russia the East
for they will take it anyway. NATO will not defend Ukraine for nobody has
the money any more. I simply cut through the BS and go to the bottom line.
To those who claimed the Ukrainian Revolution was a CIA plot are proved
today DEAD WRONG! Why? Because there was never any stomach for a war over
Ukraine. A CIA plot would have had an objective. Kerry’s statement today
PROVES there was no agenda here. Nobody figured out what to do in advance.
These were real people seeking liberty from Yanukovich and his corruption.
That was the bottom-line. They trusted the West and have been betrayed.
Ukrainians now realize they are table scraps.

Martin! My gosh. Do you not see the gaping holes in your logic above?

You don't consider all the possibilities. What if the USA has set in
motion the revolution in Ukraine because they wanted and expected Russia
to do exactly what Russia is doing. First the corruption of the prior
President of Ukraine was revealed in the process and now Russia is being
made to look like the aggressor in the eyes of the international
community.

For the same reasons the USA set off the revolutions in Africa and the
Middle East.

This is all part of a global plan to create absolute chaos and economic
collapse wherein the USA and UN will be viewed as innocent protectors and
liberators who tried to maintain restraint but were eventually forced into
WW3.

This is all part of getting the world to acceded to "international
cooperation" (i.e. world government) as the only solution to this
fabricated economic collapse and world war.

You are so determined to never admit there is a global conspiracy, that
you will continue to commit egregious logical errors.

Remove the rose colored glasses. The global elite are not as stupid and
clueless as you wish. They have a very definite plan. And they are
implementing it quite effectively.

If you don't wake up and start to interpret what is going on correctly,
then you are doing an injustice to the world's capability of understanding
and reacting, given your wide readership and respect.
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It was under the Clinton Administration that the Federal Government also specifically decided to not regulate the derivatives.

~4 years ago I was hearing about the derivatives Death Star that would destroy the economy.
I'm surprised the economy is still avoiding a complete collapse.....for now.

Derivatives were prevented from defaulting by the various ZIRP measures employed by the central banks.

The result is a slide into an insane Apocalypse then arising from ashes will be the Phoenix of "international cooperation" (which is a code word for a global slavery system with digital tracking and enforcement of all surviving humans on earth).

http://endtimeobserver.blogspot.com/2009/09/flashback-1988-economist-magazine-get.html




Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again?

Very Unlikely.  Every side is just flexing arm as usual to maintain face and control.

Wake up and realize these conflicts are part of the plan to bring about the NWO:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6447833

None of the nuclear powers can be invaded. Intervening in Ukraine is one thing and invading Russia is another. If the UK and US send their troops to Ukraine, it will not necessarily start the WW3. On the other hand, if they send their troops to invade Russia, it will definitely signal the start of WW3 and MAD. Russia will definitely use some of its 10,000 nuclear war heads and half the world will turn to radio-active waste land.

Indeed invasions of the nuclear powers is not part of the plan.

Rather the point of all of this to force the smaller nations to accede their sovereignty to the USA in return for the protection of "international cooperation".

The West Bankrupted the Soviets in 1990
Only to be bankrupted by the Russians 30 Years Later

Yes... the bankruptcy will result from rising costs of oil and gas. Russia is the number one producer of petroleum and gas. Remember that every year Russia exports oil and gas worth $400 billion to the Western nations. Sanctions means that the exports will remain at the same level, while the imports will decline. Result: Western nations will lose their revenue and economic collapse will happen.

You haven't noticed the USA is ramping up oil and natural gas production is now poised to overtake Russia as the world's #1 producer.

You can't see the globalists have this all planned out.

I sense an upcoming passionate love affair between @dank and @AnonyMint

Do you really think my posts are that far from reality that I would have anything in common with dank?

It is interesting to me to hear your frank response to gauge just how naive the herd is.

I am specifically referring to my posts today in the Mad Max thread asserting a global plan to crash the economy and foster strife forcing all nations to submit to "international cooperation" which is just a code word for globalist hegemony and digital slavery system for mankind ("global technocracy").


From my email:

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Death of the dollar is an absurd psy op given that we KNOW the global elite are
moving towards the development of an eventual global currency which will start out
as a transitional SDR basket with the dollar heavily weighted (current estimates are
that the dollar may lose up to 30% of its value, a painful squeeze but not "death").
The psy op is to scare the shit out of Americans into believing the dollar will
collapse, that way when they find out it will merely lose value they will not be as
angry AND the global elite have been setting up various scapegoats take the fall for
the dollar's decline.  Globalist controlled Russia appears to be the main scapegoat
with China and, at one point, Saudi Arabia being thrown in for good measure.  
As long as the globalists depend on the US military to help them build their prison
planet and maintain their oil-backed fiat system, they won't screw around with the
value of the dollar very much.  
BTW, a couple of weeks ago I caught an emerging new elite meme on oligarchy that was
recently wedded to a call for a "global tax" to redistribute some of the oligarchs'
wealth* [to the bottom 50% or so, through tightly rationed government programs that
require constant data monitoring, the blueprint for global Technocracy].  The global
carbon tax ruse didn't get enough traction so now the bait is redistribution from
the plutocracy or 1%.
The oligarchy aspect of this new limited hangout is a desperate attempt to contain
the growing understanding by the masses of how the system really works, thanks to
our efforts and many others battling the infowar.  TPTB realize their media lapdogs
(including gatekeepers) will lose all credibility if they continue to pretend the
elites don't control our political and economic systems.  Of course, there is no
mention of the international bankers, global elite, or long standing conspiracies.
* Best example is Bill Moyers' recent interview with NY Times columnist, economist
Paul Krugman (extreme Keynesian statist).  In the interview Moyers laughably said
Capital, a best selling book by a French economist that makes the case the US is an
oligarchy rather than a democracy, was an "epiphany" for him,  and Krugman acted
equally shocked and dismayed, then they discussed the "solution" of a global tax.

Indeed the lapdogs (gatekeepers) will pretend to acknowledge the recent revelations that the USA is an oligarchy and then offer non-solutions which actually make it more so.

Unfortunately I disagree with you that the masses are waking up. These co-opt techniques employed by the gatekeepers such as Moyers and Krugman serve to keep control of the herd of the hopelessly naive 75% who believe in man-made global warming.
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Even Armstrong Should Realize There is a Global Conspiracy

I remind everyone that Armstrong's Socrates computer model of repeating world history (which he spent in the 10s or 100s of $millions populating with data) has predicted all the major economics events of the past 2 or 3 decades in advance:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5464897

Armstrong clarifies that the dollar (and perhaps the UK pound) will probably rally from 2016 to 2021 as capital will flee BRICs and Europe. Normally (as shown with charts at the following linked webpages) the currency would rally while the stock market would decline, then the stock market would bottom when the currency peaked, but we may get a cycle inversion in USA (and also possibly the UK) because capital will be fleeing BRICs and Europe. So although the USA and UK economies will be turning downward after September 2015 due to decline in global GDP, their financial systems will remain intact. So this is going to give the USA the power to dominate the rest of the world and drive the world towards complying with a confiscation of all assets.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/28/the-deflationary-aspect-of-the-dollar/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/28/capital-flows/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/08/inflationdeflation-reality-check-understanding-the-rules-of-the-game/

Armstrong has more explicitly laid out the coming confiscation of all assets:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/28/is-a-crash-inevitable-the-spiral-vortex-of-debt-and-corruption/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/21/uk-hunting-the-rich-abandon-uk-before-you-cannot/

Obama's clever method of hiding tax increases by increasing taxable health care benefits is a prime example:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/22/the-cadillac-tax-obama-will-all-your-benefits-as-part-of-obamacare/

Armstrong has no idea how to keep wealth transportable through this crisis (and if it is not transportable then the velocity of money and commerce plummet into massive economic collapse):

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/28/what-the-hell-can-we-do-to-hide-from-the-future/

Quote from: Armstrong
The steps on how to get off the grid are different for those in North America versus Europe and Japan [i.e. include SE Asia]. That is due to the threat of physical troop invasions.

Armstrong thinks the dollar will be eventually be replaced with a basket of state-controlled (non-anonymous) digital currencies after 2021:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TSS3gXUyAA#t=43m45s

The end of anonymous cash and the digital tracking of all activity is a key component of the globalist strategy:


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/21/how-your-cell-phone-threatens-your-liberty/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/19/nsas-mystic-program-the-bug-stops-exactly-where/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/14/the-secret-agenda/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/14/hunting-the-rich/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/13/reids-fatca-american-oligararchy/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/06/the-man-who-thought-he-was-king-and-wants-to-rule-the-world/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/10/australias-attorney-general-nsa-lover/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/06/poland-confiscate-bond-holdings-from-private-pension-funds-more-deflation/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/24/the-real-conspiracy-the-imf-tax-agenda/


Armstrong's myopia is he doesn't understand that it is possible to create anonymous crypto-currencies and this is where the transportable wealth will be going.

In Obama's Q&A in Manila yesterday, Obama said his doctrine is protecting the people in Syria. The following gruesome videos say otherwise (remember the real reason the USA is funding the rebels is about a pipeline to Europe and putting economic pressure on Putin forcing Putin to play his military hand):


http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/beheading-three-christian-men-rebels-syria/
http://www.bestgore.com/execution/al-nusra-jihadists-drive-isis-abu-kamal-victims-summary-execution-syria/
http://www.bestgore.com/execution/autopsy-man-riddle-senseless-gunfire/
http://www.bestgore.com/execution/group-kneel-people-execution-fire-automatic-rifle-syria/
http://www.bestgore.com/murder/driver-anna-news-crew-killed-insurgent-sniper-syria/
http://www.bestgore.com/execution/public-execution-strangulation-muslim-woman-kill-isil/
http://www.bestgore.com/tag/execution-video/


That Obama speech in Manila (start at the 2 hours 16 minute point in the linked video) sounds very upstanding and honorable on the surface of it, but Obama clearly states that the goal has been to move Ukraine from Russian control to be more integrated in the NWO globalist slavery model EU corruption. Russia is playing the bad guy role the USA and the globalists have economically and geopolitically boxed Putin into:


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/15/joining-the-euro-to-hold-russia-at-arms-length/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/18/eastern-europe-moves-for-energy-from-us/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/13/what-is-putin-up-to-welcome-the-altyn/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/03/putin-beefing-up-syria-still-with-eyes-on-ukraine/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/28/the-rising-star-of-russia-central-asia/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/28/putins-popularity-soars-as-he-addressed-the-nation-on-tv/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/28/imf-demands-austerity-on-ukraine/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/18/the-us-did-not-cause-the-fall-of-the-soviet-union-that-is-a-false-belief-on-both-sides/


The USA is also boxing in China (and its proxy North Korea) by building an economic sandbox with Philippines, Japan, and Malaysia being the proxies that are analogous to Eastern Europe and Ukraine versus Russia:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/08/from-south-korea/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/08/us-south-korea-japan-issue-warning-to-north-korea/

It should be clear then for all to see that there is a globalist plan to create a NWO by collapsing the global economy into a sovereign debt and INTENTIONAL war outcome, with the peaceful resolution that comes at the end (2032) being "international norms". This scenario is depicted on the murals at the Denver airport:

https://www.google.com/search?q=denver+airport+murals
http://thechive.com/2012/03/08/something-is-rotten-in-the-denver-airport-25-photos/





Note the wildcards that could cause the globalists plans to fail are if the USA citizenry rise up and stop Obama, or if anonymous crypto-currencies become viable enough fast enough to defund the global order:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/23/obamas-litmus-test-to-fire-upon-american-citizens-if-they-rise-up-against-the-government/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6182414
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/14/american-civil-unrest-is-starting-on-schedule/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/03/12/the-real-reason-why-the-constitution-preserved-the-militia-right-to-retain-arms/


At least the filipinos can laugh about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s--_zRBBmSw (Obama in Manila - look-alike)
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  I read this http://www.activistpost.com/2013/11/social-logins-for-government-services.html  from your post above.  While I was reading a pop up asked me to 'like' it on facebook. roflmao 
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Armstrong thinks gigadeaths are a possibility.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/23/the-two-most-dangerous-idea/

Quote from: Armstrong
Europe failed to understand that it is the people who are a nation’s greatest asset and their total productivity. This is why Communism failed for it suppressed the very element that makes a country rich – the total productivity of its people.  Communism was a French idea they sold to Marx. The French elite like Christine Lagarde and Thomas Piketty are at it again determined to impose their brain-dead idea of “social justice” upon the world that made Russia so hated. No other idea has been responsible for more wars and the death of millions than this French idea of “social justice”.

To survive the future, it is time to realize “social justice” suppresses economic growth and lowers the living standards for everyone. Not every country can have a trade surplus. Someone has to have a trade deficit. This theory is simply insane. It is indistinguishable from handing out the same grades in school regardless if the students show up at all for we have to be fair to everyone. This is about as stupid as thinking that landmass equals power. Both of these ideas threaten our future like nothing every before. If we are not careful, we will once again see half the population of the world killed by these two terrible ideas.
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Your new double and triple priced healthcare will now be listed as income on your income tax, thus your taxes are going up. This is the sneaky way Obama is raising taxes (his goal is 70% tax rate with no deductions according to Armstrong's sources).

Increased taxes (above the Laffer limit) will implode the economy.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/22/the-cadillac-tax-obama-will-all-your-benefits-as-part-of-obamacare/

Quote from: Armstrong
EVERYONE who gets healthcare as a benefit, including retired persons who have worked for the private or public sector, will wake up and find that those benefits are suddenly TAXABLE income. Yes – that is correct. If it costs your employer $1000 per month for your healthcare, that will be taxable income. Hence, you will pay about $4,000 more in taxes for benefits worth $12,000.

The coming decline in the Economic Confidence Model after 2015.75 will be the worst decline since the Great Depression because these people are destroying world trade, causing capital to hoard rather than invest and create jobs, and then the agenda is to raise taxes back to 70% while eliminating currency to prevent people from avoiding taxes.


Good job folks! Remember don't leave your chair and stay put on the Titanic.
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Here comes the Mad Max...

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/04/21/uk-hunting-the-rich-abandon-uk-before-you-cannot/

Quote from: Armstrong
UK Hunting the Rich – Abandon UK Before you cannot.



A reader posted this new ad campaign in Britain. These politicians have squandered everything and now they are hunting down capital everywhere and the view is people have to pay whatever they demand or you are just a criminal. Nobody even bothers to look at what they are doing to the world economy. These advertisements are appearing everywhere and they will only succeed in created the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression.

Putin is raising taxes for taking Crimea.
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Specialist knowledge may be less fungible, but it's also a liability for employers/customers. And it's downright annoying due to the power imbalance that verges on blackmail. So-called knowledge hoarders can only get away with their shit for so long before they "shockingly" get fired despite being so unique and irreplaceable.

Then the company will lose the profit, because specialist knowledge is where all the real profit comes from.

This is why we have Fascism today trying to keep the specialist knowledge suppressed so that these slave drivers can make a monopoly on production.

I don't have time to unpack that for you right now.

A massive change and epochal shift is imminent.

Get the fuck out of the way, or you will be steamrolled by a freight train.
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I take it all back - Anonymint is getting email come-ons from Ukrainian huckers  Grin Grin

And Chinese huckers too I guess? Any more misogynist statements you like to make Mr. Politically Correct Socialist Pig?

It wouldn't be that women tend to seek financial stability outside their locale when the local conditions turn sour. No that wouldn't be an explanation, because the huckers wouldn't have been doing their stuff since the early-2000s and only suddenly popped into existence.

Go back to school and take a basic logic class.

Edit: another one in past hour:

http://www.loveme.com/women/info144901.htm
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