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Offcourse who would want to disclose his information on a gambling site?

Yeah, that's why we keep looking for a gambling site who doesn't ask for KYC because we want to play anonymously and we also want to bet on this kind of system. I think many gambling site are already have this feature because they know that cryptocurrency is made for a decentralized market and that's why they respect the privacy of every gambler, this is a must for a crypto gambling site.

I am sure the gambling owner will respect the gamblers decision to stay away from the KYC because the gamblers want to keep their identity in secret. They don't have to use KYC for the members because they want running their website to make money and I think that will be enough if they can give a gambling website which is free from KYC.

I also do not think there’s any casino site that’s forcing anyone to play on their site. If the policy does not suit players, then they have the right to quit and look for alternative sites that would grant their wish without compromising what they believe in.

I am completely against KYC and my reason is justified, I cannot withstand my personal details being in public or submitted on a gambling site since I know that nothing is impossible with casino sites, they could sell it to third party or even tell me stories that the account has been hacked. Online gambling should be made different from traditional gambling by giving us access to enjoy gambling privately.

Only those who doesn't care about their info out to the casino that will play on the casino site that ask for KYC. Privacy is always an issue for anyone who protects it, casinos should really understand this and offer the same features of anonymity. There are casinos that are forcing gamblers to send out KYC documents particularly when it comes to withdrawal of the funds.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 18, 2019, 02:41:16 AM

Quote from: Dreamchaser21 on June 17, 2019, 07:02:23 PM

Quote from: Lawrenzoo on June 16, 2019, 04:39:01 PM

Offcourse who would want to disclose his information on a gambling site?

Yeah, that's why we keep looking for a gambling site who doesn't ask for KYC because we want to play anonymously and we also want to bet on this kind of system. I think many gambling site are already have this feature because they know that cryptocurrency is made for a decentralized market and that's why they respect the privacy of every gambler, this is a must for a crypto gambling site.

I am sure the gambling owner will respect the gamblers decision to stay away from the KYC because the gamblers want to keep their identity in secret. They don't have to use KYC for the members because they want running their website to make money and I think that will be enough if they can give a gambling website which is free from KYC.

I also do not think there’s any casino site that’s forcing anyone to play on their site. If the policy does not suit players, then they have the right to quit and look for alternative sites that would grant their wish without compromising what they believe in.

I am completely against KYC and my reason is justified, I cannot withstand my personal details being in public or submitted on a gambling site since I know that nothing is impossible with casino sites, they could sell it to third party or even tell me stories that the account has been hacked. Online gambling should be made different from traditional gambling by giving us access to enjoy gambling privately.

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Quote from: sweetbet on June 24, 2019, 03:50:03 PM

I prefer anonymous betting, but if an online casino that I really want to play at does not offer anonymous betting, then I will complete the necessary documents and play there.

That is it. Individually, Anonymous' betting is good but when we are talking of the betting and casinos companies , revealing your identity is good for them and the society at large. Many scamming activities are happening in online gambling and knowing your customers will help in reducing scamming and criminal activities.

Indeed you are correct, that's the reason why gambling industry avoided that to prevent abusing and scamming. But I think some gamblers did not want to reveal their identity if you've noticed that gambling who implement KYC will less costumer rather than being an anonymous player. Well, I would rather choose to be individually being anonymous.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

Hassle, so yeah.

I don't want to give my personal information to other people especially if it is a gambling site. That gambling site might be hacked and might be used to illegal purposes that might lead you to jail for years to an illegal crime that you did not even commit. Also, I just want to gamble anonymously so I just register and just roll in to gamble and roll out.

But why do we always fill our hearts with negativity. I mean negativity in the sense that having a fear of a site being hacked is nothing but wishing evil for another man’s business. We all know that casino sites are businesses that belong to different people and they try as much as they can to make the security tight and hacking the site would be impossible so why we think of that?

Let’s just be honest enough to admit the reasons we want our identities hidden while we gamble rather than providing flimsy excuses, I can leave my information exposed on a site as long as am sure of gambling on a trusted site.

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Quote from: sweetbet on June 24, 2019, 03:50:03 PM

I prefer anonymous betting, but if an online casino that I really want to play at does not offer anonymous betting, then I will complete the necessary documents and play there.

That is it. Individually, Anonymous' betting is good but when we are talking of the betting and casinos companies , revealing your identity is good for them and the society at large. Many scamming activities are happening in online gambling and knowing your customers will help in reducing scamming and criminal activities.

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Quote from: sweetbet on June 24, 2019, 03:50:03 PM

I prefer anonymous betting, but if an online casino that I really want to play at does not offer anonymous betting, then I will complete the necessary documents and play there.

I guess there are many anonymous betting and recommended the betting site for the gamblers who don't want to send any documents, so you don't have to do KYC. That will better for you because you can prevent the bad things that might happen with the site and besides that, you can feel fine to play in that site. You don't have to think negative after you send the document because usually, when we send the document, sometimes we think what will happen next after the document was sent to them.

Anonymous betting can be a good reason for gamblers to play gambling game because they can play gambling without using their real identity, and they can prevent the illegal things that might happen.

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I prefer anonymous betting, but if an online casino that I really want to play at does not offer anonymous betting, then I will complete the necessary documents and play there.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

With or without registration would always be ideal for a gambler if he has the option for both of it. We want to gamble anonymously and you have to choose those casinos that doesn't require KYC before you gamble but there are casinos that will ask you for KYC when you are about to withdraw. They will halt your request and will ask you for that and when that happens, it will be a disappointing moment for you because you thought from the beginning that they don't ask for it.

Asking for KYC at the time of withdrawal is the first sign of scam. If you come across such a site, you should seriously think of quitting the site or at least keep less funds there. The sites can put some restrictions like with people without kyc have some daily withdrawals limits but asking for kyc at the time of withdrawal only is not acceptable and right.

It's not that a scam because I experienced that with a legit and popular casino. The ending, I stopped using them and never came back to that casino again. It doesn't really look right but they have the right to do it because they can put you on hold if you are about to withdraw.
Just gamble with casino's that you have nice experience so you won't experience what I did with that casino.

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Hmmm… No Registration bets? Well, there are sites that has it just like Sportsbet.io that allows people to bet without registering, but one thing is that if you mistakenly leave the site, all your winnings and deposited money is gone. Then one thing you will have to know is that anyone who is playing with cryptocurrency wants to be anonymous. But I don't mind registering with just my email and password, I can only get annoyed if they start asking questions that they are not meant to ask. You should have anonymous bet available, let it be a choice for users.

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 07, 2019, 03:55:33 AM

It opens up room for abuse. If there is no type of regulation or KYC what would prevent a football team from a lower division to bet on their own match and earn money from their loss? If the site offers anonymous betting there is no way of knowing who made the bets without following the money trail.

You have a point sir! They can make any sabotage regarding to their game once they are not known in gambling. Still, it can better for gambling site to make KYC so that people who bet will be noticed by the team. If there is anonymity in the site, conspiracy may also happen. Its good for the people who bet on winners but how about the losers? It will not become a fair game at all.

It doesn’t really make sense then for gambling sites to engage in blockchain technology to run their site, imagine that the gambling developers wants to remain anonymous, but they don’t want to give the opportunity to their players to become anonymous, there is nothing like sabotaging here, people can only sabotage the game when the developer doesn’t not know what he is doing as regards the site.

I don’t like going for gambling sites that will not make protect my identity to both my opponent and even the site owner. There are lots of very great developers that can still use code to control thing and still run smoothly without having to involve KYC.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

With or without registration would always be ideal for a gambler if he has the option for both of it. We want to gamble anonymously and you have to choose those casinos that doesn't require KYC before you gamble but there are casinos that will ask you for KYC when you are about to withdraw. They will halt your request and will ask you for that and when that happens, it will be a disappointing moment for you because you thought from the beginning that they don't ask for it.

Asking for KYC at the time of withdrawal is the first sign of scam. If you come across such a site, you should seriously think of quitting the site or at least keep less funds there. The sites can put some restrictions like with people without kyc have some daily withdrawals limits but asking for kyc at the time of withdrawal only is not acceptable and right.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on June 22, 2019, 10:06:00 AM

Quote from: idreamin3d on June 07, 2019, 02:59:33 AM

I'm working on a football (soccer) betting site, and I'd like to know if it is worth the effort to add the feature to allow no-registration bets. Has it ever been a deciding factor when you pick a site to bet on?

I voted the second option, it will make the site appealing there are people who wants this kind of features and a good options for gamblers to play anonymous, but when it comes to winning a large amount some gambling sites will ask for AML or KYC to make their site compliant, this is something a gambler should expect when he wins a huge amount.

Same, KYC should be prohibited when it comes to this kind of platforms especially when there's money involved. I will be always feel bothered when someone on the internet knew my personal information. Huh

If they will release huge money, I think papers and documents are needed on this transaction.

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Quote from: Ucy on June 21, 2019, 11:29:25 AM

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Gamblers are not required to register on physical casinos, (atleast where I live) i don't see why registering on online ones are necessary.
I understand the need to monitor people in public places but the current way of handling sensitive information is dangerous and primitive

I agree with you, not requiring any registration in land based casinos and, at the same time, requiring personal data on online registration doesn't make sense and also looks unfair. I would not be surprised if it turns out that these laws were lobbied by land based casinos, so that gamblers would prefer going to them. Also, it's a primitive way of catching criminals, if you ask me. If they wanted to launder their money, of course they would not provide their personal info to an online casino, but would go to a land based one instead.

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Quote from: idreamin3d on June 07, 2019, 02:59:33 AM

I'm working on a football (soccer) betting site, and I'd like to know if it is worth the effort to add the feature to allow no-registration bets. Has it ever been a deciding factor when you pick a site to bet on?

I voted the second option, it will make the site appealing there are people who wants this kind of features and a good options for gamblers to play anonymous, but when it comes to winning a large amount some gambling sites will ask for AML or KYC to make their site compliant, this is something a gambler should expect when he wins a huge amount.

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Quote from: zhea on June 22, 2019, 06:34:37 AM

Quote from: Janation on June 22, 2019, 05:15:23 AM

Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

Hassle, so yeah.

I don't want to give my personal information to other people especially if it is a gambling site. That gambling site might be hacked and might be used to illegal purposes that might lead you to jail for years to an illegal crime that you did not even commit. Also, I just want to gamble anonymously so I just register and just roll in to gamble and roll out.

May i know what kind of crime that could harm us if they did use our KYC illegally? Even in ICO which ask for KYC, i think it is not safe as they might sell our documents to the black market how much more on gambling site where everything is for gamble.

The crime could be: Your identities will be sold to ISIS terrorists to travel across the world and carry suicide bomb attacks. Passports, Visas, document forging are such crimes which can lead to unformidable circumstances. Your KYC should be safe with only companies which are in synch with the Government and are authorized to do so.

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Quote from: Janation on June 22, 2019, 05:15:23 AM

Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

Hassle, so yeah.

I don't want to give my personal information to other people especially if it is a gambling site. That gambling site might be hacked and might be used to illegal purposes that might lead you to jail for years to an illegal crime that you did not even commit. Also, I just want to gamble anonymously so I just register and just roll in to gamble and roll out.

May i know what kind of crime that could harm us if they did use our KYC illegally? Even in ICO which ask for KYC, i think it is not safe as they might sell our documents to the black market how much more on gambling site where everything is for gamble.

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Its truly important, anonymity is a crucial feature, many people don't like to expose themselves in gambling and anonymity could help the gambler from restricted country to play the game, and crypto gambling is famous because of its anonymity, so this feature is a must in crypto gambling

Yea, it’s really very important. Especially with the bad reputation on gambling, no gambler would be glad to be publicly known to be a gambler but instead would enjoy to play secretly why they can deny the game openly and another vital point is for the benefits of people gambling from countries where gambling is prohibited.

I have friends I have known from online casinos and most of them play from countries where gambling is illegal, they are able to do this by using a hidden vpn and am sure it’s truly helpful, I honestly think for as long as gambling remains, gamblers would always prefer to keep their identity undisclosed

If there’s any reason why people like to keep their identity safe in gambling, I want to believe it should be more or less for safety, not because of whatsoever reputation reason you mentioned above. This has nothing to do with gambling because if the reputation of gambling was that bad, then we won’t be having more gamblers by the day

Please note that gambling secretly in a country where gambling is prohibited is still disobedience to the law. Its simple, if your country declares the game illegal, then stay off, there’s no point going through the back door to play. So I feel your friends are only taking a risk that is not worth taking at all.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

Hassle, so yeah.

I don't want to give my personal information to other people especially if it is a gambling site. That gambling site might be hacked and might be used to illegal purposes that might lead you to jail for years to an illegal crime that you did not even commit. Also, I just want to gamble anonymously so I just register and just roll in to gamble and roll out.

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Quote from: Capt00 on June 21, 2019, 01:52:46 AM

Well have to understand how important to keep anonymous in gambling as keeping our self secured from any vulnerability of scamming activities or using our personal identity to manipulated others. This is what we worried about, that is why mostly all gamblers skip those sites that require KYC upon registration. Well for me, I'll keep anonymous all the time.

Nobody wants to get their personal information all over the internet for playing a few bucks on a casino. Thats why they prefer not to use the sites that ask for KYC. Most cases that end up with demands of KYC are fraudulent activities on part of the player. Reputed sites here known well in the crypto world dont do this unless the source of money is a tainted one. They are allowed to enforce rules in such cases if required - thats on their TnC.

New sites that come up and in case they ask for KYC people are going to run away from them. Wink

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Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

With or without registration would always be ideal for a gambler if he has the option for both of it. We want to gamble anonymously and you have to choose those casinos that doesn't require KYC before you gamble but there are casinos that will ask you for KYC when you are about to withdraw. They will halt your request and will ask you for that and when that happens, it will be a disappointing moment for you because you thought from the beginning that they don't ask for it.

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