Is anonymous betting a desired feature? - page 3.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 21, 2019, 04:51:33 AM

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Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

We like comfort when we are betting, and at the same time we also like to be in the safe side, so not connection with our real info in a certain site, that would make us safer.

It will be much better if you are not willing to provide such information, you can play with such comfort knowing that you can move along without any trace, just enjoy and safely move when you already have enough no obligations but to keep moving and enjoying around.

But doing kyc will help the gambling sites to know who is dealing with. I think knowing or having that information is vital for us to identified scammers and those that want to win and use the gains to do criminal and criminality against the innocent in our society.

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Just imagine there are whales or high roller do you think they would use a site that would giveaway their real information?
Just imagine a site that would use your real name when you are chatting and when other players view your profile it would show your personal details such as your name and other stuff .
Do you think that they would continue to use knowing that some people would target them in real life?
Anonymity in gambling is what we are looking for and for that reason we are avoiding a gambling site with a KYC to know that our personal data isn't required and we could play safely.

Honestly bro, it makes no sense at all to me and this is the very reason why I avoid KYC as plague, what differentiates it from traditional gambling. For me, I would never play games on KYC site while I risk my information been exposed to a third party.

I have one policy never to fill a KYC on any gambling site, because I always had fear and especially the fact that those sites cannot be trusted, it stands a chance of being hacked and it will be very risky. Well I understand there are so many people who see nothing wrong with KYC, different people to what they belief and their choices, so its always individual differences.

I don’t think any gambler is interested in leaving a trace of their identity online, so I don’t blame you at all. The KYC regulation to me is absolute scab considering the agenda of Cryptocurrency. The essence of crypto is mainly for anonymity, so I do see any reason for KYC on casino sites.

I believing that exposing our identity online has the ability to turn us into victim of exploitation. I have heard so many reports of how some casinos site use the information of their players in bad faith. Too many shady activities like account hacking and impersonation and this is the main reason why I detest KYC and I do hope its eradicated soon.

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Quote from: Lawrenzoo on June 16, 2019, 04:39:01 PM

Offcourse who would want to disclose his information on a gambling site?

Yeah, that's why we keep looking for a gambling site who doesn't ask for KYC because we want to play anonymously and we also want to bet on this kind of system. I think many gambling site are already have this feature because they know that cryptocurrency is made for a decentralized market and that's why they respect the privacy of every gambler, this is a must for a crypto gambling site.

On the contrary, not all casino sites understand this, in short its even becoming tougher by the day with the compulsory filling of KYC form on some highly rated casino sites, there are some that wouldn’t request it at registration but at withdrawal, especially when it involves a big win.

This is against what crypt campaign and I stand against it, for me, it’s an initial turn off when I see a site with KYC requirement and it’s even more heartbreaking when it happens after playing and towards withdrawal. I truly hope this is looked into and corrected soonest as this might drastically drop the number of online casino players.

Right..
Gamblers are not required to register on physical casinos, (atleast where I live) i don't see why registering on online ones are necessary.
I understand the need to monitor people in public places but the current way of handling sensitive information is dangerous and primitive

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Quote from: mirakal on June 19, 2019, 09:01:56 PM

Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

We like comfort when we are betting, and at the same time we also like to be in the safe side, so not connection with our real info in a certain site, that would make us safer.

It will be much better if you are not willing to provide such information, you can play with such comfort knowing that you can move along without any trace, just enjoy and safely move when you already have enough no obligations but to keep moving and enjoying around.

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on June 17, 2019, 06:16:18 AM

Its truly important, anonymity is a crucial feature, many people don't like to expose themselves in gambling and anonymity could help the gambler from restricted country to play the game, and crypto gambling is famous because of its anonymity, so this feature is a must in crypto gambling

Yea, it’s really very important. Especially with the bad reputation on gambling, no gambler would be glad to be publicly known to be a gambler but instead would enjoy to play secretly why they can deny the game openly and another vital point is for the benefits of people gambling from countries where gambling is prohibited.

I have friends I have known from online casinos and most of them play from countries where gambling is illegal, they are able to do this by using a hidden vpn and am sure it’s truly helpful, I honestly think for as long as gambling remains, gamblers would always prefer to keep their identity undisclosed

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Quote from: idreamin3d on June 07, 2019, 02:59:33 AM

I'm working on a football (soccer) betting site, and I'd like to know if it is worth the effort to add the feature to allow no-registration bets. Has it ever been a deciding factor when you pick a site to bet on?

I will really be in full support of you to built such a fantastic application as long as we can avoid KYC

Frankly speaking, if the op can really succeed in building such anonymous betting site which is what many people has been craving for, he will really be able to drive lots of traffic to his game site. Although I still do not know how the op will be able to manage this, and how he will be able to identify a winner without having any details about him.

I think little registration would not be bad such as nickname even if it is not full name and then maybe password. Imagine someone having challenge in using the site and he needs to contact the customer care for support, without a proper identification that will link him to his account, how would they know how to resolve such issue?

The question I have now is “Do you think the OP would ever be successful with this project’’ I understand that a lot of gamblers would choose to gamble on an anonymous betting site but at the same time there is a regulation governing gambling industry, and before a gambling site can be approved,, there are some rules the operator would need to adhere to, except the OP is willing to create a site that is without license and this is enough to also scare away intending gamblers.

For me I will advice the op creates a site with interesting features and also a secured site and forget making anonymity the most important priority. There will definitely be gamblers that will still play on the site Regardless.

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Quote from: coinfinger on June 21, 2019, 01:41:15 AM

Quote from: bhabygrim on June 16, 2019, 12:52:16 AM

Just imagine there are whales or high roller do you think they would use a site that would giveaway their real information?
Just imagine a site that would use your real name when you are chatting and when other players view your profile it would show your personal details such as your name and other stuff .
Do you think that they would continue to use knowing that some people would target them in real life?
Anonymity in gambling is what we are looking for and for that reason we are avoiding a gambling site with a KYC to know that our personal data isn't required and we could play safely.

Honestly bro, it makes no sense at all to me and this is the very reason why I avoid KYC as plague, what differentiates it from traditional gambling. For me, I would never play games on KYC site while I risk my information been exposed to a third party.

I have one policy never to fill a KYC on any gambling site, because I always had fear and especially the fact that those sites cannot be trusted, it stands a chance of being hacked and it will be very risky. Well I understand there are so many people who see nothing wrong with KYC, different people to what they belief and their choices, so its always individual differences.

Well have to understand how important to keep anonymous in gambling as keeping our self secured from any vulnerability of scamming activities or using our personal identity to manipulated others. This is what we worried about, that is why mostly all gamblers skip those sites that require KYC upon registration. Well for me, I'll keep anonymous all the time.

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Quote from: bhabygrim on June 16, 2019, 12:52:16 AM

Just imagine there are whales or high roller do you think they would use a site that would giveaway their real information?
Just imagine a site that would use your real name when you are chatting and when other players view your profile it would show your personal details such as your name and other stuff .
Do you think that they would continue to use knowing that some people would target them in real life?
Anonymity in gambling is what we are looking for and for that reason we are avoiding a gambling site with a KYC to know that our personal data isn't required and we could play safely.

Honestly bro, it makes no sense at all to me and this is the very reason why I avoid KYC as plague, what differentiates it from traditional gambling. For me, I would never play games on KYC site while I risk my information been exposed to a third party.

I have one policy never to fill a KYC on any gambling site, because I always had fear and especially the fact that those sites cannot be trusted, it stands a chance of being hacked and it will be very risky. Well I understand there are so many people who see nothing wrong with KYC, different people to what they belief and their choices, so its always individual differences.

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Quote from: Dreamchaser21 on June 17, 2019, 07:02:23 PM

Quote from: Lawrenzoo on June 16, 2019, 04:39:01 PM

Offcourse who would want to disclose his information on a gambling site?

Yeah, that's why we keep looking for a gambling site who doesn't ask for KYC because we want to play anonymously and we also want to bet on this kind of system. I think many gambling site are already have this feature because they know that cryptocurrency is made for a decentralized market and that's why they respect the privacy of every gambler, this is a must for a crypto gambling site.

On the contrary, not all casino sites understand this, in short its even becoming tougher by the day with the compulsory filling of KYC form on some highly rated casino sites, there are some that wouldn’t request it at registration but at withdrawal, especially when it involves a big win.

This is against what crypt campaign and I stand against it, for me, it’s an initial turn off when I see a site with KYC requirement and it’s even more heartbreaking when it happens after playing and towards withdrawal. I truly hope this is looked into and corrected soonest as this might drastically drop the number of online casino players.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on June 19, 2019, 06:41:17 PM

I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

We like comfort when we are betting, and at the same time we also like to be in the safe side, so not connection with our real info in a certain site, that would make us safer.

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I think most gamblers would see no registration bets as a plus to a betting site because most of them wants to gamble anonymously and they find KYC very hassle. In my opinion it is better for your site to have verification just to safeguard your site from scammers.

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Quote from: klaaas on June 19, 2019, 05:04:00 AM

No benefits at all for the user to submit his kyc. You dont know what will happen once you submitted it.

In crypto gambling, things should be anonymous as most of the casinos are not regulated, only those who are regulated should require KYC but if we have other option we would prefer a no KYC unless we are betting big money in gambling.

Quote from: klaaas on June 19, 2019, 05:04:00 AM

what if the casino operator gos rogue and sell all the information or get hacked. That is besides the why question.

If they'll do that, it's already out of our control, but with legal consequences, I doubt they will do that.

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Quote from: klaaas on June 19, 2019, 05:04:00 AM

No benefits at all for the user to submit his kyc. You dont know what will happen once you submitted it. what if the casino operator gos rogue and sell all the information or get hacked. That is besides the why question.

Yes, I agree with you. Many gamblers will try to avoid gambling site which needed KYC. I think it's not just for the gambling website, but it's for the website who ask for KYC in the registration, and we need to be careful to send the document.

I am too worry if the information that I sent to them will be used for the other things that I don't know. The hacker will easy to get the information from the dark market, and they can use the information for their purposes to reach the goals.

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 07, 2019, 03:55:33 AM

It opens up room for abuse. If there is no type of regulation or KYC what would prevent a football team from a lower division to bet on their own match and earn money from their loss? If the site offers anonymous betting there is no way of knowing who made the bets without following the money trail.

This is a valid concern. Even with email verification, they can simply get someone to use multiple accounts to bet. I mean, we've seen Like farms before.

Exactly. Nothing can protect from this kind of abuse, even requiring KYC. Only, I personally think that it can hardly happen in reality. If many people are involved in a scheme, it's almost impossible to keep it secret these days. I mean the usage of the Internet and smartphones has reached such a level that any secret information leaks out at some point, and the more people involved, the higher the probability of leaking. A team, even from a lower division, would not risk its reputation with such a move, imo.

Regarding OP's question, I think that registration must be as simple as possible, but anonymity per se is a mildly important feature.

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No benefits at all for the user to submit his kyc. You dont know what will happen once you submitted it. what if the casino operator gos rogue and sell all the information or get hacked. That is besides the why question.

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Quote from: Johnzky on June 17, 2019, 10:33:49 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on June 14, 2019, 06:31:51 AM

Onehash does have this kind of feature but it's just an option for the bettors. If you want to register, it's okay but if you don't want to, you have an option to deposit anonymously and you will be given a certain bitcoin address to receive your winning. And after that, the deposit address will be given to you so that's how you bet without any registration. You are not enforcing your gamblers to use it but you are making their lives easier by providing an option.

Of course this is how Onehash runs ,and besides privacy is what people needs here that’s why we all transferred here from the centralized world so we can enjoy our anonymity

If someone doesn't want privacy, he's free not to gamble with those casino's that guarantees anonymity or he can just not gamble at all. Data is becoming the crude oil of our generation and this is why some companies are mining data for the sake of their profit. It's all rotating now and everyone is becoming aware of anonymity and we all want it who are aware of it. While some who are not really aware of this, doesn't really care at all and it's fine for them whether they are secured or not.

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It's sad to see people don't consider this as a 'Critical' feature. Shows why the majority of them are okay with KYC verifications on gambling websites. Nowadays I don't even feel bad if the website fucks them over for KYC. If every player considered anonymity as a critical and deciding factor for selecting a gambling site, these sites will have no other option but stop asking for the KYC and other documents.

True but most people would just agree if there are changes and because of the urge on playing gambling

then they would definitely follow it up even if its really a big hindrance on their part but due on wanting to play
in result they wont really care at all in the end on their personal info.

Yes it happens when people want to gamble they will not care about identity, but before playing with someone in casino, I think every casino should ask for official identity before getting in gambling with someone. But if you play online it sometimes you will have to get through anonymous gambling which is not good at all.

idk why you consider anonymous gambling bad ? some are just not happy if thier identity is being expose but there are some few people that dont care at all , they only want is to play gambling . like me i dont care if a site is anonymous or not but i dont do kyc becuase i only have few id's that are not accepted on a kyc . if ever i have a passport and a drivers license then why not ? i wont hesitate to do a kyc as soon as the gambling site is not scam .

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 07, 2019, 03:55:33 AM

It opens up room for abuse. If there is no type of regulation or KYC what would prevent a football team from a lower division to bet on their own match and earn money from their loss? If the site offers anonymous betting there is no way of knowing who made the bets without following the money trail.

You have a point sir! They can make any sabotage regarding to their game once they are not known in gambling. Still, it can better for gambling site to make KYC so that people who bet will be noticed by the team. If there is anonymity in the site, conspiracy may also happen. Its good for the people who bet on winners but how about the losers? It will not become a fair game at all.

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Quote from: Lawrenzoo on June 16, 2019, 04:39:01 PM

Offcourse who would want to disclose his information on a gambling site?

A very good question you have there bro and that’s exactly what I have in my thought. Why would I even agree to play on a site that I would have to give out my information? I think every gambler enjoys privacy and this is probable the reason we chose casino site gambling over of all forms of gambling and crypto casino sites has made this much easier for us.

I think in this generation, the first feature gamblers look at before they even play on a site is to check for the anonymity. Gambling sites that gives opportunity to play without disclosing identity, have and will always have an edge over every other site.

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Quote from: Dreamchaser21 on June 17, 2019, 07:02:23 PM

Quote from: Lawrenzoo on June 16, 2019, 04:39:01 PM

Offcourse who would want to disclose his information on a gambling site?

Yeah, that's why we keep looking for a gambling site who doesn't ask for KYC because we want to play anonymously and we also want to bet on this kind of system. I think many gambling site are already have this feature because they know that cryptocurrency is made for a decentralized market and that's why they respect the privacy of every gambler, this is a must for a crypto gambling site.

I am sure the gambling owner will respect the gamblers decision to stay away from the KYC because the gamblers want to keep their identity in secret. They don't have to use KYC for the members because they want running their website to make money and I think that will be enough if they can give a gambling website which is free from KYC.

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